Greg: Wasn't the original 3AM ad dropped on Saturday, and then given massive airplay until Tuesday for 4 days straight to move the undecided voters into Clinton's camp?

So, how much of an impact would this have on undecideds a day out before the primary?

"Dropping a last-minute bomb in order to sow doubts about Obama among the late-breaking undecideds -- and doing it in the guise of an ad only about Hillary -- worked in Ohio and Texas. And Camp Hillary is hoping that the tactic will deliver a second time."

Flyonthewall refutes this argument better than I can, but the negative ad did not cause Obama to lose.

Obama never led in OH, and it was always too close to call in Texas, where the Clintons have deep roots with the majority of Hispanics.

When Hillary wins tomorrow (as expected) it's simply because the demographics favor her.

This ad will have little to no effect.

She does this every time. The late breakers usually go more toward her because she either drops fearmongering ads or drops mailers or robocalls full of lies and distortions. Or she cries.

Positive my ass, you could just the same kind of rationalizing coming directly from Bush or Rove. Give me a break.

Greg:

Can you ask them about the Drudge leak of their internal polls? Josh, your boss, seems to have some questions about the veracity of the leak.

Obama already replied, SC Madden - he released Bill Clinton's statement about fear vs. hope.

He's now running as Bill Clinton against Hillary-Joe. Every time she gets this outrageous, he releases one of Bill's old statements on the subject.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hillary is the one who laughed and demeaned Obama as naive because he said he would go after AL-Q in the hills of Pakistan!!

Now we are suppose to believe that she will hunt down OBL when she is afraid to even hunt him down in Pakistan after voting to authorize the President to do precisely that?

Hillary is pathetic

Interesting... such tactics "worked in Texas"... where Hillary lost.

Obama was right, in a much overlooked quip, that Hillary learned the wrong lessons from the rightwing's smears against her in the 90s. Now she's embraced GOP tactics, including the one they used against Max Clealand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHFREDHB-nQ

Hillary Turdblossom Clinton has passed The Fear Monger In Chief Threshold!!!!

Amazing. Appalling. Doesn't anyone in the Hillary camp remember the bin Laden tape that appeared just days before the 2004 election, and imho, by frightening a number of the remaining undecideds, did a lot to help elect GWB? Is bin Laden really who they want to emulate? Does she really want to win that badly, that she needs to use fear in order to do it?

Clinton and her advisors don't seem to realize it, but it's exactly this sort of campaigning that is turning voters off, and her tendency to rely on it may explain a significant portion of her relatively poor showing so far in the primaries.

You proud of your gal, Greg? Bush scare tactics coming from a Democrat doesn't bother you? This is who she really is, you know. It isn't just politics. This is the real her.

This ad isn't negative, just like Hillary's chances at the nomination aren't a snowball's chance in...

Underlying message of the ad -- I campaign just like a Republican, so you should send me off to face the Republican in November.

But imagine her national security creds [sniper fire, married draft dodger] up against war hero McCain. In what universe is it a sane strategy to try to out-hawk the Republicans?

On this very point, I've heard it said by a Bush guy that when the '04 Dem convention turned into a patriotic tribute to Kerry's war record they privately said "we've got him."

HILLARY TURDBLOSSOM CLINTON HAS PASSED

THE FEAR MONGER IN CHIEF THRESHOLD.

Great Ad. Should have gone farther in painting Obama and his supporters as unpatriotic turds.

Memo to: Hillary
From: Turdblossom2 (Howie)

SUBJECT: Our chances look GRRRREAT!!

Lessee, how're we doing the night before Pennsylvania....

Piss off the activist base of the party? Check. (Thanks to all my peeps, but especially you!)

Piss off and dismiss half of those who are left (Men)? Check. (Thanks, Nora)

Piss off the AA voters, bedrock of the party? (A special mention to Bill and Penn and Howie.) Check.

Piss off all the states that didn't vote for you? Check.

Keep the Porcine Penn around a long time, until forced to fire his double-dealing butt? Check.

Mismanage your first big executive job, universal health care? Check.

Then screw up your campaign management just to be sure everyone knows what kind of job you'd do as president? Check.

Vote to authorize the war because you were trying to stay "viable" for an eventual run for president, and then be so blinded by ambition that you didn't correct it until waaaaaay too late? Check

Conduct your campaign in such a way as to be able to win only by playing the gender card, and the race card? Check.

Fail to realize that Bill is a liability, not an asset? Check.

And finally, fail to realize that even those who once liked you are increasingly repelled by the lack of character and leadership you exhibit? Check.

I think that about covers everything we should have done. I'm a genius.

Oh, yeah. We're gonna win this thing! Hillary '08!!!!!

I have more respect for Geoff Garin than I do for Mark Penn (I could probably say the same about almost any human being on the face of the planet), but this is awfully Penn-like. Perhaps this indicates the problem isn't Penn per se but Hillary herself. I guess you can't step in the door without being caught in the maelstrom of sleaze.

Once the Democratic nomination is over, once Obama has been chosen as the party's candidate and is on his way to become the next president of the USA - well then Clinton can withdraw to her cave, lick her self-inflicted wounds and plead insanity: after all she had been suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome caused by the heavy sniper fire she incurred in Bosnia. Clinton's campaign makes Karl Rove and his minions look like gentlemen, McCain may surely be much better than Bush, but Clinton isn't - they look eye to eye, they are at the same level.

Hey observer2,

"that most of the media elite have the critical thinking skills of a 12 year old."

stop insulting 12 year olds!