Give it a listen

Gee, thanks for the kind offer, but I think I'll give it a pass.

For robocalls to work, doesn't someone have to pick up the phone?

That's harsh? Okay. I must say, if I lived in PA, I'd probably just turn my phone off today. This shit is getting ridiculous.

Seriously, who STAYS on the phone once you know it's a robo call? My mom said she stopped answering her phone in the run up to Texas because of them. Seems like a waste of dollars.

What a bitter bitter robocall, I must say.

Bill Clinton had the strongest gun-control record of any president in history. Since she was "co-president" how can she claim to be less vulnerable on this issue in the general election? I mean without using the excuse that she's a lying sack of shit.

And since this is a Democratic primary and Democrats have traditionally been for reasonable gun-control why should I remain in the party if she's going to run against gun-control in the general?

And - HEY - whatever happened to those pro-Hillary folks on this board who would accuse Obama of having Republican policies or not being a real progressive. What are they telling themselves now? That it's okay, because we all know that Hillary isn't really pro-gun, we don't need to worry because... she's a lying sack of shit? Well, how comforting.

why should I remain in the party if she's going to run against gun-control in the general?

Well, I agree, but I'd rather kick her over to the Republicans for just generally running to the right of McCain myself.

robocalls suck!

The spectacle of Obama and Clinton accusing each other of being anti-gun in the middle of a Democratic primary race is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in politics.

ho-hum

Can't wait til this primary is over and have Clinton dropping out - sooner rather than later, I hope.

Hillary Clinton: Wallowing in the politics of divisiveness and fear to destroy the Democratic Party.

or

Hillary Clinton, a candidate without a exit strategy . . .

McCain-Clinton '08

Why must her robocall be characterized as "harsh" and Obama's is not? This is a characteristic of the unfair media/blog treatment Hillary has received and that you blogged about on Horse's Mouth, Greg. Stop it! It's disgusting and unnerving, particularly when this blog purports to be unbiased (at least w/r/t Democrats).

I think it is harsher than Obama's because she directly accuses him of lying about an issue that seems open to interpretation, i.e. whether or not he filled out a questionnaire 12 years ago. This isn't anything he voted on in which case it would be clear what he voted. Unless he signed it I wouldn't expect him to take responsibility for it.

Obama merely pointed out an incontrovertible fact about her voting on an against an ammendment that would prevent the confiscation of guns in an emergency. There is no doubt about what happened and what the issue was.

I think we can come to the conclusion that Obama's whole message is a lie.

I didn't listen--just read the transcript--but is anyone else struck by the use of the word "will" instead of the conditional "would." Or am I just picking nits?

If this quote from Darth Clinton is accurate, then I am speechless:

Tonight, in an interview with ABC, she took a question on an Iranian nuclear attack on Israel.

"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next ten years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Clintons_tough_talk.html

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Vote2008/story?id=4698059&page=1

Curious if this will make it to the front page here in TPM land.

ACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get to your fallout shelter!

The "massive retaliation" gal is back threatening cold and hot nuclear war in the mideast.

All, of course, against the nation that does NOT have nuclear weapons.

ABC News' Chris Cuomo asked Clinton what she would do if Iran attacked Israel with nuclear weapons.

"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran," Clinton said. "In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

Link: http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Vote2008/story?id=4698059&page=1

You could have used much less biased sources than Politico for info on Obama's stance on guns.

I just watched the Oberman interview.

Which one of her people is telling her we like the cackle?

HusseinTenaX I was just repeating the facts in the article. You gotta problem with facts? As far as Iran, if they even fired a bullet at Israel I'd nuke em out of existance.
Senator Hillary Clinton ROCKS!

Great interview with KO kissing up to her .

He knows he is not in her league and so does Obama.

The Clinton folks forgot to mention that during the recent ABC debate Obama denied his handwriting was on the questionnaire, and Stephanopoulos and Gibson let him get away with it.

I am going to tell my friends here (and overseas) that Clinton would take away your guns FROM you in case of a national emergency. NC. IN. MT. ...

Rudy Giuliani for New York US Senate.

Ba-bye Hillary!!!

Obama lied??!!? That so not Generation O.

Whatever will the hopeful ones do??

Oh. My. God.

Guns aren't a great issue for either of them, simply because they're Democrats.

But let's not forget who injected guns into the campaign.

All that really needs to be said is that Barack Obama has common sense on every issue including guns and abortion and fair taxes to every citizen of the United States.

He is a liberal but many liberals own guns. Many liberals hunt and use guns and many Republicans couldn't find a gun if they wanted to.

Hilary needs to go.

Prediction: Hillary will drop out of the race within the next seven days. And, no, I will not reveal my source, but any who read my posts know that I don't make idle predictions.

Clinton 49%, Obama 39% In Latest InsiderAdvantage Pennsylvania Survey

12% undecided.

Clinton by 20.

"Clinton 49%, Obama 39% In Latest InsiderAdvantage Pennsylvania Survey
12% undecided.
Clinton by 20."

She won 60% of late deciders in Ohio. So that would be about 7 pts extra for her in PA.
Thus 56 - 44, 12 pt spread.

Care to educate us how you get 20 pt spread? You think she'll get 80-90% of late deciders? Why?? She's never gotten that.

But to be on the safe side, and looking at all the polls, I'm betting 12-15pt spread. 12 if we are lucky.

Really? From what I hear Obama's candidacy is:

Ghandi-inspired:
”In my life, I have always looked to Mahatma Gandhi as an inspiration, because he embodies the kind of transformational change that can be made when ordinary people come together to do extraordinary things,” Obama wrote in a yet to be published article in the ethnic India Abroad newspaper.

”That is why his portrait hangs in my Senate office; to remind me that real results will not just come from Washington, they will come from the people,” he said .

Its Kennedy-esque:

Now, the endorsement of Mr Sorensen, who worked for Mr Kennedy for 11 years and wrote the 1961 inaugural speech in which he spoke of a torch having been "passed to a new generation", has made the linkage explicit and given it official sanction.

Its, Its, Its frickin...Biblical:

"I don't think Barack Obama came along for nothin. It ain't happenstance; it's God's will." says Maxine Smith, who served for more than 40 years as the executive secretary for the local NAACP,

(Oh and luv the "troll" meme. Good comeback)

Time to get a new campaign rally song...

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/04/small-town-rock.html?csp=34

I haven't read through the responses to this thread nor have I focused on the gun issue.

All I know is that I would be 100% in favor of having a no-handgun rule in our country. Owning one as the equivalent of an attempted murder charge.

Violence would decrease by 75% in our country off that law alone.

The only thing I listen to when I receive a robocall is WHO is responsible for the call.

Then I call them and complain about it and to take me off their list.

I believe the "do not call" list should extend to political robo calls.

My least favorite moment of every campaign season is when the Dem dresses up like Elmer Fudd and goes a-huntin'.

I love the excuse on Obama's gun control flip-flop. He was too important to fill out the form. Staff did it. Mistakes were made etc.

People! He was a CANDIDATE FOR STATE SENATE at the time. This isn't such an exalted status! You don't have an army of aides when you are a mere aspirant for the state legislature. Of course his handwriting is on the damn thing, so we don't even have to go there. And given the constituency he was sucking up to at the time (not many deer hunters in his Black/University of Chicago white state sen. district) his position was not surprising.

Still it's telling that people are so ready to swallow that lame excuse rather than admit that Mr. Hope is a flip-flopping pol. When Fred Thompson's pro-choice positions on a questionnaire came up and he also tried to pin it on an aide did you "Obama is so dreamy" types believe him? And he was running for the U.S. Senate at the time. If he was cuter and hipper would you have believed Uncle Fred's dodge too?

To paraphrase Chris Cocker: "Leave Greg Sargent alone!"

Dude. You must have noticed by now that there is NO SUCH THING as completely objective reporting. That's sort of the problem with the MSM, capisce?

This piece though? It's no distortion to say that one candidate's accusation that the other is lying (and using that word) is harsh.

It's too funny that people would randomly wail on Greg for being too soft on Obama today in this one piece, when we all know that actual storyline is about Greg's Endless Hillary Love...