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Gallup: Obama Has His Biggest Lead Yet, No "Small Town" Damage

Today's Gallup tracking poll gives Barack Obama an 11-point lead over Hillary Clinton, his widest margin ever in Gallup's polling. Here are the numbers, compared to yesterday:

Obama 51% (+1)
Clinton 40% (+0)

The poll was conducted entirely after the "small town" controversy first erupted, a further indication that the whole flap has yet to actually harm Obama's poll numbers.


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Heh. We may be bitter out here in small-town America, but I'm relieved to see that we're not stupid, as well.

Go Obama '08.

Time to get the checkbook out again!

Yup. He just got another $50 from me. And I've already put aside another $50 for the next BS comment from Hillary, which clearly shouldn't take but a day or two.

just send another check off to clinton as well! ;-)

"The poll was conducted entirely after the "small town" controversy first erupted, a further indication that the whole flap has yet to actually harm Obama's poll numbers."


You and Greg have been saying "yet" all morning. Are you expecting a sudden drop for Obama in the polls by the end of the day? By the end of the week? By next Tuesday?

I think if he was going to drop in the polls, he'd have done it by now.

I do remember a drop in the polls immediately after the Wright controversy erupted.

Of course, but that had video of a scary black man playing over and over and over and over. All we have with this is Obama explaining why his comments were essentially correct along with Clinton and McCain sounding more condescending with "the people of middle America are not bitter, they are passionate, hard-working, optimistic, blah blah blah" than Obama did in the first place.

keep telling yourself that. i have a feeling PA people will not forget the empty suit's comments by next tuesday.

Or that photo of her with the gun over her head.

I love how you put "yet" in every entry.
As if the controversy would have more impact once it is an old story than it does when the media is OBSESSING over it.
Right.

paging idiotic

I understand why McCain fell for it...

but why did Hillary? As Obama says, "She knows better!"

What was she hoping would happen? That she would win PA by even more?

Now she might have lost PA instead....

One week away, and Michelle Obama on Colbert Report tonight in PA.

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It's because "reporters" like Kleefeld and Sargent are small fry and they're more easilly sucked into MSM spin. Or maybe they're small fry because they're gullible. The MSM makes robots of everyone by relentlessly pounding in these incredibly stupid notions.

Josh has a little more independence but that seems to be slipping for different reasons as he gets more established, has a payroll to make, etc.

Don't you know? It never mattered yet, if we are the believe what Hillary tells superdelegates, it will all the sudden explode everywhere in October and Democrats will be lying dead in the streets everywhere!

There are super magical fearmongering Clinton time bombs all over the place that will go off if she isn't our nominee. Hillary told me so.

Oh dear. See, I think the Clinton camp thought they had their weapon with "bitter" ( like "not bitter" was going to be such a winning hand). Now I think tomorrow Sen. Clinton will come out in the debate with everything, from Rev. Wright to dog-whistle Michelle Obama stuff, and it's going to be a more frightening look into the damaged Clinton psyche than some of us have ever imagined in their sixteen years of prime time.

The poll was conducted entirely after the "small town" controversy first erupted, a further indication that the whole flap has yet to actually harm Obama's poll numbers.

But, by all means, one hopes that McCain & al will continue to waste their time flogging this particular issue. I would be delighted to see Sen Obama's opponents waste their efforts in a futile attempt to run the 2004 race all over again while Sen Obama moves with the times and runs the race of 2008.

What'd I tell ya, baby?

Teflon!

I think if anything these polls reflect a growing impatience within the Democratic electorate of the length of the primary process. Since the only damage that Obama’s campaign appears to be sustaining at this point is self inflicted, HRC would be better off suspending her campaign until the convention in August. In the event of a true Obama implosion she will then be in a much better position to ride in as the proverbial “white knight.”

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Now that's strategic thinking! Actually, it's a really good point and maybe face saving for Clinton? Not before Pennsylvania, of course, but maybe soon thereafter.

But she did that, she could not continue her mission of making him unelectable.

First of all, love your ID, I am from Minnesota too, now in CA. In any event, you are right on target. I am sad, truly, that HRC has taken this horribly negative path, and would like to see her step back and regain common decency. She is destroying her legacy and Bill's also. Very sad from a historical perspective.

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I think the poll respondents are still trying to get the image of Clinton in a duck blind and downing shots with beer out of their heads. It was kind of lick Dukakis in the tank. It was funny, and humor can disarm a lot of criticism. (It also makes a person less likely to be perceived as elitist, something McCain, who owns 8 houses, has already figured out.)

Paging Hillary Rambo Clinton:

Message from the Voters for Hillary Rambo Clinton

Message:

You can't BamTuzla all the people all the time.

Actually this appears to be hurting Clinton more. If you look at the trend, her numbers started going down when bitter-gate broke and are now at their lowest point since this became a 2 person race. Obama on the otherhand has been over the 50% mark and is only a point away from his highest % to date.

This makes sense to me because I am really really sick of listening/reading about this. WHO CARES! Lets talk about something that matters. This is ridiculous and HRC is showing her republican colors. Actually she is showing envy green rather than republican red.

Granted, I am a latte-sipping, Prius driving, Birkenstock wearing elitist, but I can't even watch the news this week because I just can't stomach listening to another pundit with an irrelevant opinion on this.
Really, in an election year with an abundance of stupidity in the media, this is beyond any absurdity they have shown so far.

By the way - I don't recall the media making such a big flap over HRC insulting ME when the latte-sipping stuff was said- so anyone who thinks the media is in the can for Obama is really um, out-of-touch.

That's because the people in the MSM, who, as we all know, are really humble blue collar working class folk themselves at heart, knew that latte drinkers aren't easily swayed by moronic tendacious distortions but those dumb hicks really get themselves bent out of shape about it.

Wednesday's debate will start up a new news cycle and all this elitism discussion will recede. it has the same significance as the Carville Judas comment. The cable channels have used the bitterness comments as a bridge to get them from Tuzla to the debate. And if Hillary tries to raise the issue again, the audience and Obama will make her pay (as happened with her "change you can xerox" comments).

lol...exactly...I get so freaking sick of the whole "yet" thing. Seriously...get over it. People are finally starting wisen up this whole media manufactured controversy and are sick of it. Clinton, McCain and the media piled on so much to the point of being vile and just like I suspected, there is a backlash.

This is what the Gallup organization had to say in its commentary about today's daily poll:

"The two candidates will hold a nationally televised debate in Philadelphia on Wednesday night, and it is possible that this confrontation -- plus any delayed impact of Obama's controversial remarks -- may affect Democratic voters' perceptions in the days to come."

Yes Otto. That is fascinating idle speculation. It sure does not take much sniffing on Hillary Vapors for you to get an attack of the Vapors, and go all giddy and light headed.

Frankly, I am glad they are continuing to beat this issue to death right now. It will public build resisitance to it and the public will not care whenever it comes up later.

And if McCain brings it up (as he apparently intends to do) during the general campaign, it gives Obama multiple opportunities to argue the converse, that it's McCain who's out of touch.

And really, train some fire on Johnny Mac and he does look out of touch.

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and it will also allow obama to tie mcCain to hillary's failed campaign, painting them as a pair of washington dinosaurs. John Hillary McBush! that might cause some GOP voters to sit on their hands or lose their lunch or something

This does tremendous damage to her Obama-can't-win argument to the superdelegates.

I wonder if we have yet seen the full extent of Clinton's Tuzla damage.

"The two candidates will hold a nationally televised debate in Philadelphia on Wednesday night, and it is possible that this confrontation -- plus any delayed impact of Obama's controversial remarks -- may affect Democratic voters' perceptions in the days to come."

I'm looking forward to Clinton trying to raise it in the debate. Really. It could mean the end of her candidacy.

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Oh, it's going to be raised in the debate. My guess, first question out of the chute will be "Why do you say people are bitter, Senator Obama"?

And you know what? Thanks to her "You know, I always get asked the first question" comment at the last debate, she probably won't be the first person asked...

Honest to God. You couldn't make this stuff up.

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This exhaustive, 24/7 media coverage of a single remark, and the chorus of "this is the end" from O'bama's opponents is absurd. Clinton and McCain have done and said dozens of things that could be touted as "the end" of their respective campaigns if given similar focus.

Power-brokers remember their success with the clip of Howard Dean and think they can repeat it at will with any candidate. The real condescension is on the part of the Clinton campaign (and Republicans who desperately want her as their opponent in the Fall) - the presumption that voters are dim-witted enough to buy the spin.

I hope what we are seeing here is that voters are taking back the democratic process from the media moguls and spin-meisters and the Rove/Penn "strategists."

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Yes, that doctored clip of Howard Dean hit the airwaves some 700+ times in a week. I still believe that the media took him down in part because he spoke in December '03 of the need for more accountability and public service [as originally designed] from the media giants who monopolize and determine what the public will hear and see, a situation aggravated by the Clinton presidency '97 giveaway to the telecommunications giants.

Fortunately, Dean's treatment was a lesson learned, and the Bush team's behavior has soured and informed a whole lot of folks, causing most to no longer buy into the du jour media splashing.

She's dropping because she couldn't do the full shot of whiskey the other day. She had to take little sips first. That's pathetic.

I thought the same thing when I saw her take that shot.
Drinking whiskey: UR DOIN IT WRONG!

Somewhere, a lone dump truck is jettisoning 50,000 "I'm not bitter" pins into a landfill.

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Yep. I can hear the "beep beeep beeeeeep" of the truck right now.

That other sound you hear is Mark Penn's head exploding.

I'd recommend your comment if I could. lol!

That was money well spent.

Hillary Rambo Clinton Bush does Fuzzy Math.


Per Greg Sargent:

Late Update: As expected, 19 mayor actually showed up to the event today. I've asked the campaign how many of the 100 mayor had previously endorsed her; if the campaign answers, I'll keep you posted.

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Hillary, stop! You're killing him!

Obama will literally die laughing if you don't let up.

Dead wrong as usual.

Your sentence lacks a subject.

Would that be "the polls" who are dead wrong? "I" (read: you) who is wrong? Or . . .

More like "I, gotalife, have been...dead wrong as usual"

How about those polls? Read it and weep you sucker.

Obama 08

This is a national poll, and it may be that educated voters with high-paying jobs in San Francisco and other urban areas don't particularly like it when Hillary insults them.

Poor Hillary.
Poor Greg & Eric.

3 major polls out today in PA and one is even one has him up 4 and one has him down 4 and now this.

The current 11 percentage point lead is the largest for Obama this year, and marks the ninth consecutive day in which Obama has led Clinton by a statistically significant margin. The current Gallup Poll Daily tracking average is based on interviewing conducted Saturday, Sunday and Monday -- after the initial reports of Obama's controversial remarks about "bitter" small-town residents began to be reported in the news media.

Tomorrow! 4,892 employees of the Pennsylvania. water company will come out in support of Hillary Clinton. Whoops only 4 showed up.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Teflon Obama!

Teflobama?

Toblama?

Obamaflon?

Ok I can't get it to work.... BUT IT'S THE TRUTH.

I can't help thinking about that childhood "comeback" whenever this stuff comes up.

I'm rubber and you're glue...whatever you throw at me bounces off of me and sticks to you.

Awwwwww Poor Hillary Clintglue.

Hillary fell for it. Now she's provoked Obama to explain himself fully, which is his strength. The mountain out of a molehill ultimately will benefit him because it brings up the subject of economic disparity which needs to be discussed and his rhetoric will win out.

It will be interesting to see they both handle it in the Debate. Obama should talk about the issue, but refrain from mentioning Hillary, thus taking the high ground. It worked before...

It also gives Obama an opportunity to bond with small town voters as the candidate who really understands ... WE ARE PISSED!!!

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susie, yes it will benefit Obama, but I can't help rejoicing that it will benefit the whole country when more and more of the general populace comes to recognize how wedge issues are used to manipulate voters against their own interests.
People can only be fooled when they are unaware of that particular political game being played on them. And the timing is really good right now for people to already have their heads up, because so many are seriously hurting economically.
I read a phrase once that has stuck with me for years. It is from the book "Awareness" by John Stevens, first published, I believe, in the early 70's. That phrase is, 'To be frustrated to the edge of discovery'. Well, I think a whole lot of Americans [some 80+%] are frustrated to the edge of discovery.

DonnaG - Love that quote! -Thanks!

HIllary Rambo Clinton

TV appearance announcement:

On April 22, 2008 Senator Hillary Rambo Clinton is scheduled to appear on the Springer Show.

She will tell the audience that she wants them to know that Senator Obama is an Elitest who can not to relate to them like she can.

For her appearance on The Springer show, Senator Hillary Rambo Clinton plans on wearing her new low rider pantsuit, that will tastefully provide the audience with a glimpse of her tramp stamp.

Vote for Hillary. She is the one that put the Common in Common Touch.

"3:30 Friday: The time
everything changed for Obama

Sen. Barack Obama’s instantly infamous remarks on how small-town Americans “cling” to their faith, their guns, and their xenophobia began drawing attention around 3:30 p.m. Friday."

It is hilarious watching Obama and his biased blogs and MSNBC trying to spin this biggest mistake ever in politics.

It is over and the voters will end this story.

Gotalife don't Gotabrain

I'm sorry. The mental vision of the tattoo on HRCs hip that's being inked in RIGHT NOW is drowning out everything else. I can hardly wait til we get to see it. I'm betting on a rose with BILL in gothic script.

Well, I am not supposed to divulge what her new tat will be, but, just for you: do not tell anyone else.

It will be a tattoo of Charlton Heston holding a rifle aloft, and the motto will say: You Can BamTuzla Some of The People All The Time.

Actually, "sources" close to the situation indicate that she's tattooing a fork on her back.

Because she's done.

I'm imagining a barbwire tattoo around her right bicep that says "Regular Gal" in a Gothic font. All the while she's wearin' a Trucker hat chewin' down on a toothpick.

She's one of us, ya know?

Oh my, once again, Gotalife delivers!!

"the biggest mistake ever in politics." The BIGGEST mistake?? EVER?!?! Wow that's quite a statement. Certainly blows away Dean's scream, Ford's Poland defense, Dukakis's tank move, and on and on. Biggest. The very biggest. The most-large mistake. Ever.

Uh huh.

And of course the fact that the polls so far provide *no* evidence for this is irrelevant, since gotalife has no need of "facts" and other such silly things.

Of course, that also begs the question of *which* voters will "end this." The voters of PA won't since at most they will cut slightly into Obama's delegate lead. The voters of NC certainly won't since they'll likely give Obama a win that will come close to or entirely erase Hillary's PA pickup.

Which voters, exactly, are going to "end this"?

Considering Giuliani's Florida defense, I doth think that gotalife protests too much.

I haven't spent a penny on trying to get myself elected President and I have 1 fewer delegate than Giuliani.

...and he thinks Obama has made the worst ever political mistake?

GET FARKIN' REAL.

Gotalife is the Comic Books guy on the Simpsons.

Worst Arse Troll, ever!!!

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The voters of PA won't since at most they will cut slightly into Obama's delegate lead.

Actually, they could end it—by voting for Obama. That would give Hillary a reasonable excuse for dropping out. Hopefully, she'd take it.

Touche'. Unfortunately I doubt that's gonna happen.

"biggest mistake ever in politics"? really? can't think of a bigger one? hmm...

Why can't she drink the whole shot at once? What is she hiding?

She is hiding the fact that she is a booze hound. She is the one who ordered a Crown Royal. She took a sip or two to pretend that she was new to downing shots, but she then downed it, and a lot more beers besides.
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She called over the mayor of Hammond, Indiana, and he said to her: "Hillary, ever time we meet, we end up drinking"
How revealing is that, and do not forget her Vodka shots binge contest against John McCain.

Hillary loves her booze.

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Gotalife, I love you. In this crazy mixed up world, it's good to know I can count on you to put out the craziest, most mixed-up spin for Hillary.

I hope you will continue to cling to your illusions and share your creative take on the campaign for the brief time we have left before Hillary finally decides to pack it in.

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But, by all means, one hopes that McCain & al will continue to waste their time flogging this particular issue. I would be delighted to see Sen Obama's opponents waste their efforts in a futile attempt to run the 2004 race all over again while Sen Obama moves with the times and runs the race of 2008.


Great Big Smile.

I think you've got it and I think we are on the brink of watching what's left of the Republican Party start shooting each other in the face over and over. That's all they've done so far.

They don't even have a message to be off-message from any more.

But wait. Obama is smart and successful. He can't possibly relate to us stupid people. And he talks good. We need to be suspicious of that.

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I'm dancing and I'm singing and thank you for this because it's allll over.

It's all over but the bitter end - where she is being forced to withdraw and she's clawing the carpeting to stay put.


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Yes, that doctored clip of Howard Dean hit the airwaves some 700+ times in a week. I still believe that the media took him down in part because he spoke in December '03 of the need for more accountability and public service [as originally designed] from the media giants who monopolize and determine what the public will hear and see, a situation aggravated by the Clinton presidency '97 giveaway to the telecommunications giants.

That's what happened, though some will always believe that the DLC and Kerry had a hand in that.

I don't know myself - but I do know the BITTER fight we had with the DLC to get Gov. Dean elected chairman of the DNC.

I notice The Page has yet to report the new Gallup numbers.

Mark Halperin's brain must have broken.

Halpern is in Hillary's hip pocket, right next to the wedgie.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't make such a special deal over today's Gallup. Tomorrow's may be closer and then all we'll hear is how Obama is doomed. Poisoned by his own words:

I'll suck, to drown my hate's eternal smart,

Nepenthe, and good bitter hemlock brew,

from the sharp rose-buds of thy breast, anew,

thy breast that never did contain a heart.

-- Baudelaire


I agree that we shouldn't let the polls jerk us about.

But the crap hasn't damaged him so far (though you could argue that it did stop his movement in Penn.). Tomorrow night is the debate. Considering both Clinton's and Obama's performance on this bruhaha, I'm willing to bet Obama will stay on message, while Clinton will do something that makes her look bad, like slug some Crown Royal and pulling out a Lugar to place, as a hint, on top of the podium.

Touché...for Hillary.

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I'm going to propose a theory which sounds too awful to be true but which I have come around to accept as entirely possible. There are powerful interests that fear an independent, unbought candidate like Obama, and these interests most assuredly back both McCain and the Clintons. We're talking about the richest financiers and bankers, healthcare and insurance industry, the military industrial complex, big media corporations, with trillions of $$$ at stake, they always play both parties and get their guy/gal into the WH. Even if Obama ends up with the nomination, you can bet that he'll continue to have to fight on TWO fronts, the Republicans and the Hillary-DLC camp who are going to ensure a McCain win for Hillary to get another shot at it in 4 yrs. They'll do to Obama what they did to Gore, hold their supporters and fundraisers back. McCain is truly their friend, and also Plan B in the bigger scheme of things. All the drama, the race-baiting, the attempt to paint Obama as another failed "elite" in the mold of Gore and Bush, the constant compliments paid to McCain, the call by Limbaugh to rally Republican voters, they all make far more sense in this light.

What? Obama has taken 115,000 from pacs, Hillary 850,000. Obama will enter the White House, beholden mostly to the public. He is funded by the common man, including my small town brethren, who interest have been largely ignored by the Bush and Clinton Dynasties. It's been a corporate party for the last 20+ years. It got to end before the US becomes a third world nation.

It's BO-$115,000 and HRC-$850,000 from lobbyist.

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That's not just a theory. It's something I happen to know quite a bit about, from a very personal perspective. My dad's uncle was one of the original Watergate conspirators, and we've heard all the stories. These people who are running for office are not the people who are running the country. He once told me: "People always worry about whether to vote for this person or that person. They try to decide if it's better to be a Republican or a Democrat. But they don't need to worry. They should just vote for whoever they like best and be happy, because no matter who wins, we're going to take care of things. No matter who's in office, we've got it covered."

The "we" he was talking about was most definitely not the president or Congress.

I think Obama is a serious threat to "we". And I think they're getting nervous.

I agree that Obama is a serious threat to "we" (funny... I always think of them as "them"). But I have always suspected the Conspiracy to be fractured, full of in-fighting, incompetent (come on, who's a bigger fuckup for the powers that be than Bush/Cheney?) and not as much in control as the paranoid like to think they are.

But the many Thems will be getting the big guns out for Obama.

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It's fractured, but it's also carefully organized. Back in my dad's uncle's day, the Watergate was populated by Republicans and Democrats alike. By day, they fought like cats and dogs. At night, they gathered around the pool and had cocktails and ate barbeque.

One thing he told me that's always stuck with me was: "There's always going to be somebody who wants to take over the world and run things. It might be the Nazis or it might be the Communists or it might be some religious fanatic, but there's never going to be a time when someone isn't trying to get control. So you may not like the fact that corporations and investment bankers appear to be in charge, but believe me, it could be far, far worse."

Well, when you put it that way...

Now I'm wondering who your dad's uncle was. Did he do burgling, or coverup? Did he become a beloved right-wing author, radio host, oddball character? Was he Cuban? Was he Nixon?

I don't disagree that there are powers united to stop the riff-raft and boat-rockers, but I can't stand the message from some that there is a huge monolithic conspiracy in charge of it all, and that's why there's no point in voting for anyone but the doomed third party candidate.

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I don't know if I feel totally comfortable naming him. Let's just say he was a relatively minor player, indicted for perjury and obstruction and acquitted on both charges. He mostly removed himself from public life after the whole Watergate thing. I attended his funeral not too many years back. If you guess it, I will neither confirm nor deny, but will simply remove my hat to signal that you are correct.

I don't go in for monolithic conspiracy theories either. I'm much more of a "cell" theory kind of guy: small groups of self-interested power brokers, scratching each others backs when necessary and keeping their knives close at hand and well sharpened.

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Think of it this way: even though Bush and Cheney appear to be a couple of fuck-ups, the wealthy have had one of their best years ever this year. And that's the goal: to maintain the status quo. The wealthy and powerful must always remain wealthy and powerful. The ruling class must always rule, and the tax payers must always serve. That's the way they think. That's the world they live in. And Hillary and Bill are part of the ruling class. They're not part of the working class. And anyone who believes that Hillary will change anything that really matters is seriously deluded. She will make cosmetic changes, but that's where it will stop.

Obama? He'll be up against the status quo. I don't know how much good a single insurgent can do, but that's the point of his campaign: that with the overwhelming force of a majority behind him, they'll be FORCED to capitulate. They'll won't have a choice.

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It's as I fear - their minions in the MSM are parsing every word uttered by him to make a mountain of. They are very determined to derail his campaign. After Dean's and Ron Paul's experiences, not to mention the Diebold machines as Daedalus mentioned, I'm wondering how *we* the people can defeat the global mafia. Have we even thought about our actions should such a time come to pass?

This is truly one of the most controlled nations on earth, politically, economically and socially and most of us not any wiser.

On our part, we don't have a Plan B ourselves, do we? We'd just pack up and go home, embittered.

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I pretty much agree with your take on this, Qwerty. But, the changing times are affecting all, including the old powers atop the pyramid, and the fact that the whole pyramid is shaking may make a difference this time.
It is the nature of greed that fear begets greed and greed begets fear of losing what has been accumulated to ward off vulnerability and that spiral of causation continues until something else is faced and is an unknowable fear, i.e., a worst fear...... at that point, which is called crisis, folks do sort of come to their senses and pull together or at least review their relationship with their better selves.

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I'm afraid I really don't knoww...consider the irony of millions of Americans giving to the Obama campaign even as they face hard times, and all that money siphoned right back to Big Media in ads while the MSM talking heads replay Rezko, Wright, Bittergate, over and over at no cost to the trillionaires....

I don't know how Americans can take back their country,I'm not optimistic even as I know there are no alternatives but to fight this.

Isn't the "bitter" stuff exactly what Edwards was fighting to fix? Where is he?

Well heavens to Betsy! Who'da thunk that speaking to voters like adults rather than children would pay off? Meanwhile Tracy Flick is blanketing the airwaves with "real" Pennsylvanians telling their fellow voters how offended they should be.

Only one way to defeat them. How do you spell victory: OBAMA.

Lord I hope so. (see there I am clinging to religion because I am bitter ;) )

Meh- this is in response to MercerReader...

CNN has done a masterful job of blurring and burying the issue, and going after Clinton for trivia.

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Since you seem somewhat unfamiliar with how the politics of personal destruction works, please allow me to explain:

Venomous snakes like Wolfson and Garin spend all day and all night poring over newspapers, blogs, etc., looking for an item to exploit. It might be something truly bizarre, like Hillary lying about being shot at by snipers in order to puff up her commander-in-chief credentials, or it might be a guilt-by-association item like Tony Rezko or Bill Clinton and Mark Penn lobbying for a Columbian trade deal that Hillary claims to oppose. It doesn't matter. It doesn't even need to be a major issue. It only needs to be "spinnable" and exploitable. It needs to have the potential to raise doubt about the other candidate's honesty or viability or whatever. So when Mayhill Fowler made the fateful decision to post Obama's true but clumsily worded comment, it was like throwing a nugget of gold into the river. Downstream, these prospectors from Hell were busy sifting through the dirt, looking for anything they could use against Obama to raise doubts about him. When Mayhill's post first appeared, they all jumped into the air and shouted, "Eureka!"

The important thing to know is that you're being played for a sucker. These people don't like you, they think you're stupid and easily led, and they only want your vote. And once they have it, they're done with you. Which is exactly what Obama was talking about when he made his comment.

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The important thing to know is that you're being plalyed for a sucker

So true.

You should blog this.

Then again, maybe not. Pointing out reality seems to be an elitist thing these days.

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Thanks. And OK, I just did. Short post because I'm doing my taxes, but I put it up, essentially as posted here.

There's a great irony of complaining that CNN is "going after Clinton for trivia" (as opposed, I suppose, to going after Obama for some manufactured outrage) while sporting an avatar of Obama bowling.

Hey Bonehead,

Since I love your avatar so much, I dedicate the following video to YOU.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjNxBQzHoM8

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Not only has Bittergate not damaged Obama, but from what I saw in a just-completed Veterans Town Hall in Washington, Pennsylvania, a backlash might be a-comin' for Clinton for her attacks.

A white-haired white guy, Obama's first questioner, was very angry about Clinton calling Obama an "elitist." He asked, "Don't you think her calling you that comes dangerously close to calling you uppity ?"
Obama graciously said that he didn't believe the attacks were racially motivated.

But if this is a white guy is thinking, can you imagine what African Americans are thinking about Clinton's "elitist" attacks ?

Obama said otherwise.

Bonehead?

Again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjNxBQzHoM8

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"bonehead"

Arguably the most appropriate pen name on the board.

This is interesting. Apparently the more people listen to Obama discuss the issue, the more they agree with him. Once again he proves that his faith in the American people is not naivete but hard-nosed realism.

http://www.mediacurves.com/press_releases/PressRelease.cfm?PressReleaseID=136

That's why I'm skeptical that there's a "yet" attached to these favorable poll numbers. I imagine the reponse to the "bitter" comments will be softened the more Obama speaks about them and is able to articulate his point.

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I've been wondering about Edwards the last couple of days and the reason he's been on my mind is that Hillary just trashed one of his major issues - about two Americas and poverty and what it is doing to us.

Wonder if he still likes her health care plan best?

"Frankly, I am glad they are continuing to beat this issue to death right now. It will public build resisitance to it and the public will not care whenever it comes up later."

And inuring the public for spin and bs in the future possibly.

It's like the boy who cried wolf. Wehn ABC tool Jake Tapper says "this is big!!" and it is not, people will wise up.

When FoxNews gets all blustery about bs and the polls show defaince against the media narrative, it will either chasten them or they will lose credibility and viewership.

So I think they underestimate both Obama and the American people's anger this year at their own peril. 2002 it ain't. The patriotic bullshit won't work. Not this time.


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I finally got round to watching Moore's Sicko and one thing really jumped out at me - when you take the US healthcare system out of its context and compare it to the rest of the world, it immediately becomes clear that A LOT, and I mean a lot of wealth has been siphoned out of the lower and middle-income families through sky-high costs and incredible inflation. That $120 drug sold for 5 cents in Cuba, where did all the profit go? Certainly not back into the pockets of American families going bankrupt to pay medical bills....the true power elites who have been robbing the country blind are *not* going to give in to the people - they'd end up at the guillotine. The elections are rigged, have always been, Den could not have won and I think Obama is going to face more onerous battles ahead.

Yes indeed, between Diebold and Big Media, getting him elected will be an enormous feat. But the "fierce urgency of now" is that we have the most unpopular president in 3 decades, with an unpopular war and a tanking economy....this is the chance of our lifetime. I truly believe that if we have a Dem majority and president and can pass major healthcare reform legislation, the Republicans will never be able to take it away. Look at their pathetic efforts at reforming social security. Once people get their "entitlements", they don't like to see them go.

Frontline is doing a documentary tonight on PBS called,"Sick Around The World" dealing with this issue. It might be worth watching.

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I'm still unsure how this entrenched, omnipotent structure can be taken down by one Obama, but there's no alternative but to fight and make our voices heard. I'm thinking mass demonstrations and civil unrest might follow such a perversion of our sacred political rights.

The PBS program would be interesting, I wonder if they'd mention Hillary is the 2nd highest recipient of the Healthcare and Insurance industry's largesse?

Moore could have done more to document her ascent, but at least the factoid is there for our digestion.

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But it's not just one Obama. It's Obama plus all of US, the millions of people who are supporting him. When we act as one, when we combine our voices, we are incredibly powerful.

If we expect Obama to do it all alone, it won't happen. But if we all act together, it will. I firmly believe that to be true.

and one clinton and the millions of US who are supporting her. we're not going anywhere, darling. deal with it.

can't wait to the obama the empty suit go down in flames next week. hope and change indeed!

McCain aide Steve Schmidt says we can expect to keep hearing about Obama's San Francisco comments:

“The reality is this is an important and defining moment in the race,” and opens “a window on how Barack Obama views the people of this country," he said.

That is awesome. Because every time McCain attacks him for it, it gives Obama the chance to draw a contrast in policy. He can explain exactly why McCain would be terrible for this country, and terrible for the very people he's trying to appeal to there. Great news, thanks Otto!

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always comforting to see the opposition cling to a failed strategy. John Hillary McBush!

On Noes!!!!

Ya mean the Repiglicans are going to try to take any advantage they can to paint their candidate in a favorable light???

What a novel concept.

Why don't the Democrats try tha....

Oh wait. Hillary already is.

You fail to realize that if Obama can beat the Clintons, there's NO Republican that can beat him. The Clintons are the BEST campaigners out there. They've beaten em all. Getting past Hillary, which still isn't a done-deal, is Obama's biggest challenge to the White House. McCain has a treasure trove of policy stances which Obama can attack without ever getting into the mud.

And OUR 527s can attack his treasure trove of skeletons as well. People like to point and say "Rezko". I expect McCain won't do that do to his own past allegations of Mafia connections in AZ. Then theres the Keating 5. Voting against Civil Rights. Flip-flopping on Torture. Denouncing the US under torture, and then there's his infamous temper and what he called his own wife (second wife that is. He cheated on and left his first wife).

http://www.realchange.org/#2008

If this poll is accurate, it shows that American voters are smarter, more discerning, and more focused on the real issues that affect their lives than the mainstream media and the Hillary/McCain campaigns give them credit for.

Exactly!

Not just the issues. The voters are also on to the media and the games they're playing on them.

Why can't you bring yourself to say this didn't hurt him the polls? Stop saying "yet"! If there was going to be an impact in the polls, it would be reflected here in the Gallup poll and in the Rasmussen poll. There has been no drop, so that's it. It did NOT hurt him in the polls.

Well first, if that's true (that it didn't hurt him, period), then we don't need to get bent out of shape over it. If it didn't and that means it won't, then whatever Eric writes won't matter.

But what about this "yet" part? To the people who have obsessively followed polls longer than I, what's the timeframe we'd expect? What happened with Wright? I know he took a hit before his speech, but was it immediate or was there a delayed reaction?

The recent polls were just taken over the weekend. Can anyone say one way or the other if these things typically take a little time to play out? After all, it's obviously not "over" since the talking heads are still babbling about it and Hillary's starting to run ads.

How confident can we be that this is an accurate assessment of the (non)impact of this incident?

The impact from Wright was immediate - Rasmussen claimed it was Obama's single worst night of polling all year (the night after the story hit). I think Gallup showed the downturn maybe a day later.

After Obama's speech on race, both polls flattened for a couple of days with Obama a few points back, and then he slowly began moving up and up to the point where he has an 11 (Gallup) and 9 (Ras.) point lead currently.

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That's all well and good (his increased national lead). It means democratic GE voters have rallied around him to be sure. At the same time, his continued poor showing in mosts polls from IN and PA plus McCain's leads over him in GE matchups in most of the possible swing states does not bode well for the Dems in the fall. White indies are not coming back. Sadly, they will put their "faith" in McCain, no doubt a reflection of their "bitterness."

Me, I am with Obama all the way, for what little good it will probably do. I find myself in the odd position of having to convince my Hillary supporter friends to do the right thing. Perhaps ironically, the most bitter group I have seen out there are her hardcore supporters. Watching them scramble for justifications to vote for McCain would be almost comical if not so shortsighted (since these are all pro-choice, universal healthcare types). Now, don't get me wrong, I still think the fact that we are stuck with Obama is one of the worst things that ever happened to the party. But, there is a big difference between being disappointed and being insane.

Heretic, your comment really goes off the rails.

First, his "continued poor showing" in PA and IN is just the same "Poor showing" he had a week ago. Those states (PA moreso) are just not good for him. In PA especially, it's a demographic tailor-made for Hillary. He's probably not going to win it. So what.

Also, it's not true that in "most swing states" McSame leads Obama, particularly not moreso than Hillary. The polls are all over the place, and are simply irrelevant in April. Plus, the ongoing Dem nomination will suppress both their numbers. Someone referred recently to a "unity bounce" we can expect once the nomination is decided. I do expect that.

I also dispute your doom and gloom "White indies are not coming back" statement. That's just not based on anything. It's a long way to the election and things are very very fluid.

Remember, Obama's not really even started to campaign against McCain yet. Recall that every time he turns his attention to a state and really starts campaigning, he gains enormously. Let that play out, and we'll see what happens. But get up off the floor and dust yourself off!! It's just not that bad...

THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!

!!!HILLMENTUM™!!!!

Yup.

my man!
Hillary/idiotic '08
Guns, Gods and Bitter Lemons

Hillary's graveyard spiral continues. She has seven more days to make her case to PA voters, and that seems to be seven more points she will drop in the polls.

Months ago, I would not have relished the implosion of such a formidable woman's presidential ambitions. Now, I am enjoying it... not for the satisfaction of her humiliation, but the merciful void that will be left by her absence.

I think, perhaps, the voters are tired of Hillary's white noise campaign and have tuned her out.

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Josh Marshall, front page, posts the reason why every poll result gets qualified with "yet". The reason? The damage won't be apparent for another week.

Meanwhile, Politico is reporting poll results from Indiana that have Obama up there.

In any event, the media seems convinced that "Bittergate" is going to hurt Obama. And yet (there's that word again) the evidence suggests no.

We'll have to move on to more important things. Like the fact that OBAMA WORE A FLAG PIN TODAY!!!!!. ZOMG!!!!!!

I'm enjoying the commentary from all. Speaking as a small town resident (pop. 15,000), it was refreshing to hear Obama, in the least, acknowledge our existence. I am tired of hearing all the pundits, commentators, politicians, candidates, etc. tell me how I should feel about a comment made by someone they all find threatening, treating me as if I don't have a brain of my own. While these pretenders put their arms around our shoulders and tell us how they understand, their hands pursue business as usual.

Here is where Hillary really stepped in it, and shows that she has no idea about how regular people will react.

You all know of the school bully who picks out some perceived minor tic about an other kid, and pounds it to death. The Bully is the only one doing the taunting, and actually believes that all the regular kids are supporting his barrage of infantile meanness toward the other kid. The bully thinks that the more he keeps up his moronic taunting the more of the other kids he is converting to his bullying creed.

We all know that it is actually the opposite that happens. All the normal kids just cringe inside, and end up wanting to be no where need the Bully.

That is where Hillary, the taunting playground bully, has now landed. She is making normal people cringe inside at her childish taunting.

Hillary the bully, is driving up her own negatives.

Hillary has passed The Bully In Chief Threshold.

Just a note of caution before you all start with another chorus of "Ding, Dong, The Witch Is Dead," please keep in mind who we're talking about: the Glenn Close/Fatal Attraction of politics (according to Jay Leno). Rumors of her demise are still greatly premature and she's got more lives than Jason of Friday the 13th fame.

Well put.

I firmly believe it will take a stake through the heart to rid her from the nomination process once and for all.

An Obama upset victory in PA would do that.

I am a member of the Crown Royal Society. I can't help but express my revulsion with anyone who would commit a cardinal sin of Crown Royal drinking such as
A. putting Crown Royal in a shot glass.
B. sipping Crown Royal out of said shot glass.
and the most heinous act of all
C. using Crown Royal in a boilermaker.

My God, think of the children!!!!!!!

I cannot vote for Clinton now. I will vote for McCain. He knows how to drink.

THERE WAS AN OLD WOMAN NAMED HILLARY,
WHO TOOK BARAK TO THE PILLORY,
SHE SAID WITH GREAT PRIDE,
THAT IT’S BEEN A GREAT RIDE,
BUT SHE ENDS UP JUST SOUNDING SHILLARY !

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“The reality is this is an important and defining moment in the race,” and opens “a window on how Barack Obama views the people of this country," he said.

O goody!

This from the party which so far inside of two weeks has called Obama both Tiger Woods and "boy."


I'm putting in such a stock of popcorn for this campaign.

It seems to me from cruising sites for the past few days, that talking heads really really REALLY want this to be a giant story.

I'm just not convinced that the public thinks it's that big of a deal. "People in towns where the jobs are drying up may be bitter." I think that only to those listening through partisan ears does that sound all that shocking.

1) All of these tactics from Clinton also end up sticking to her in a negative way by making her look even more ruthless.

2) The public eventually wises up to sales tactics. It's why commercial marketing is always evolving. The type of "look what he said! look what he said" tactics are old hat in politics now. As the public gets used to them, they start to see through them and just see the ulterior motives of the people flinging mud.

Maybe there's no "small down" effect on the polling numbers because the vast majority of us live in urban areas?? http://wwwcf.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census/cps2k.htm

Or maybe they (the small townies) are as bitter as the rest of us and appreciate the shout out??

God, I hope the inauguration gets here soon.

Where's Billy Sad?

Somewhere bitterly sulking.

Remember his old photo of him looking older and pensive?

As a former small town resident in PA, this "controversy" has actually driven me to send $$ to the Obama campaign. Actually, the first money I have ever sent to any politician. At last, a candidate who says what we can all see but were too afraid to mention.

Come on.

No one has done more for small towns than Barack Obama.

Hillary's Top Gun in Pennsylvania, Governor Ed. Rendell said this about White Pennsylvania voters, on February 12, 2008, in an on the record interview.

Why did Hillary not chastise her Top Gun for talking about White people, in such 'an elitist way". Hypocrite, thy name is HilAnny Oakley Clinton.

Here is what Rendell said about White voters in his state;

Tuesday, February 12, 2008
By Tony Norman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


Gov. Ed "Don't Call Me 'Fast Eddie' " Rendell met with the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette last week to talk about his latest budget. But before turning the meeting over to his number-crunchers, our voluble governor weighed in on the primary fight between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama and what the Illinois senator could expect from the good people of Pennsylvania at the polls:

"You've got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate," he said bluntly. Our eyes only met briefly, perhaps because the governor wanted to spare the only black guy in the room from feeling self-conscious for backing an obvious loser. "I believe, looking at the returns in my election, that had Lynn Swann [2006 Republican gubernatorial candidate] been the identical candidate that he was --well-spoken [note: Mr. Rendell did not call the brother "articulate"], charismatic, good-looking -- but white instead of black, instead of winning by 22 points, I would have won by 17 or so."

I know I have a habit of sometimes zoning out in these meetings, but it sounded to me like Mr. Rendell had unilaterally declared Pennsylvania to be Alabama circa 1963. Was he suggesting that Pennsylvanians are uniquely racist in ways that folks in the states Mr. Obama has won so far aren't? By the way, Mr. Obama won Alabama on Super Tuesday, thank you very much!

I just love the way the MSM fixates on this and ignore the real issues. I'm heading over to Home Depot. I hear they have a sale on Dead Horse Beaters

Harry Reid On Democratic Race: It Makes Me Bitter.

HA ha!!-trying to be funny,isn't he. I still think, not just b/c of polls we see today, that this is another Obama moment like Wright-gate, more he talks about it more people will understand why he said it. see how calm he is among these paranoid people. that's why Chris Matthews wants to be a senator so he can stay close him! - that's what he said on the Colbert report last night- HA ha!!!

From: BLACKS4BARACK.org

Hillary/Media's 'bitter' tactic against Obama desperately PITIFUL !

Here we go again ! When the campaign started in 2007 Obama was said to have not been 'black enough' as per the media as they touted Hillary's 82% support from Black Americans. The Clinton camp scrounged and dug as deeply as they could to find some kind....ANY kind of smut they could use against Obama, even searching as far back as his kindergarten writings. Couldn't find a thing. Then as Americans of all races learned more about the real Clintons, while learning more about the great qualities and capabilities of Obama, the inevitable was no more. So the Clintons (and the media) decided if they couldn't find anything negative on Obama, why not search through video tapes of Obama's preacher. Yea ! That's the ticket. So they scrounged and searched through years and years of video taped sermons and found a few somewhat harsh statements from the preacher....looped them all together....played them on the news 1 or 2 million times, in hopes that they could paint Obama as this anti-American-black militant type person....exactly what he is not (maybe they forgot he's also half white). But, polls showed their masterminded plot to be ineffective. Now what ? Ahhhhh. Obama makes a statement discussing how many Americans are fed up with government failures and are 'bitter'. The Clintons....McCain....the media....ALL decide....here's something we can jump on top of.....Obama called Americans 'bitter' ! So he's an elitist out of touch with real America!


This is the weakest attempt so far. How in the world can they try to claim that a little black boy who's father left at age 2....raised by a single white mother...so broke at times that she was on food stamps....a boy who grew up and went to college through grants and scholarships....riding to school daily in a ragedy jalopy.....just recently paying off his student loans thanks to proceeds from a book he wrote....(entitled 'The Audacity of HOPE') who's entire life has been devoted to helping the disadvantaged....the poor....sick....the struggling....THIS IS AN ELITIST ?


Hillary, McCain and the entire media should be ashamed of themselves for this weak, pitiful attempt to literally make-up truth. They should be concentrating on REAL facts such as the 109 million the Clintons have made during the last few years...or the 300 mill McCain's wife is worth.....or what about Hillary's secret religion known as 'The Family' which CNN didn't ask a single question about in the so-called religious forum...or what about her election fraud case going on right now in California? Did we mention McCain's wife's stealing of drugs and her rehab stint ? There's so much more....it's pitiful !


The fact is.....Obama is about as elitist as Hillary ducked sniper fire in Bosnia....Stay focused people. They are all (Hillary, McCain and the media) getting more and more desperate everyday. That's a real good sign !

Greg Jones
Visit: BLACKS4BARACK.org (Official Site)

People of Small Town America. This is your Queen, Hillary of Tuzla speaking. I command you to be outraged. Thou shalt not think for yourselves. Now do as I command. Be outraged, now!

Heavy is the head that wears the Royal Crown. Bring me another Crown Royal.

Burb.....hic.......fart.....hic......scuze me.....


I am Queen Hillary and I approve of this message.

Where are Dennis Kucinich, John Edwards and the rest of the presidential candidates on this? Even if they don't intend to endorse Obama, it's a little surprising and disappointing that they aren't coming to his defense.

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