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DNC Releases New Ad Hitting McCain

The Democratic National Committee just released this new ad hitting McCain on the economy -- its first run is this morning on ABC, during George Stephanopoulos' interview with the Arizona Senator...

The DNC promises a sizable cable buy for the ad. The spot reflects a recognition in Democratic circles that while the two leading Dems continue to tear into each other in a contest that could continue for months to come, McCain has thus far been able to build his campaign apparatus and define himself with a relatively free hand.

The difficulty for the Dems right now is that as long as the Dem primary drags on, it will continue to suck up much of the media oxygen, making it all but impossible to mount any sort of effective effort to frame McCain the way Dems hope to.

Without a Democratic nominee to directly take on McCain and command media attention for the Dem message about him, this will continue to be a serious challenge for Dems. It remains to be seen whether such efforts by the DNC change this at all.


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Not bad - it's kind of an expansion of the yard sign I had in '06 - it was a huge "Had Enough? Vote Democratic" sign.

And that's what I think this ad says. Which is ok.

No one is better off than they were when Bush got sworn in.

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The truth is that the MoveOn anti-McCain ad is much much much better -


I love that ad - it's brilliant. The sweaty hug and then those clips of McCain saying exactly the same things Bush has said, with the same gestures - that is just killer.

Ad could be more hard hitting, but it's attention getting in its quiet way and at least they're doing something to offset McCain's upward trend in the polls. Remember when the Democratic campaign was called the most amazing race and everyone was feeling pretty good on our side? Seems like a long time ago. Thank you Hillary Clinton.

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O word, anna.


I do remember how, going in, I thought this was going to be possibly the most brilliant election season in 100 years or more for Democrats

Damn that woman and damn her husband and goddamn the DLC.

Greg Sargent is obviously suffering from the same derangement syndrome as much of the blogosphere these days. He just cannot help himself and must insert the implication - the primary process is hurting the Party's chances.

Wouldn't it help if Clinton dropped out right now....etc, etc, ad infinitum. Let's stop the primary process in the name of the greater good.

The exact same logic was used to justify wiretapping. "The enemy is not sleeping... it's hurting America's chances" and so on.

And now McCain is re-grouping. Fuck the primary, let's bomb bomb bomb McCain, kids.

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The exact same logic was used to justify wiretapping. "The enemy is not sleeping... it's hurting America's chances" and so on.

I feel that I must point out that this is what is called a False Equivalency.

There is no analogy there - the two are not equivalent.

I must say it's strange to read the word 'logic' in Lalo's strange conglomeration of meaninglessness.

McCain was just on This Week (tempted to boycott but I'm not a Nielsen house so it doesn't matter) responding to this. He was spinning that 'alot has changed since then' and then went on to talk about the troubles facing families without ever addressing the charges. All I could think was that I can't wait to see Obama (or even Hillary if it came to that) debate him on the economy.

Excellent ad. McCain is intellectually lazy and very dishonest. Good to see him called on it.

Yeah, ABC really grilled him this morning.

All that whining really worked.

It is corporate media that will pimp the corporate candidate.

Did you see how Clinton responded to that stupid Generals comment?

She fought back and did not brush her shoulder like a rapper.

There is only one clear choice for President if you want to win,

Hillary Clinton.

Because despite all advantages in this race, Hillary Clinton has been *sooo* good at winning, goatlove.

I look forward to Hillary's happy, beaming face as she announces at the Democratic National Committee:

"It's my pleasure to introduce, our next president, Barack Obama!"

I'm going to Tivo that moment, put in on repeat, and laugh, and laugh, and laugh...

And goatlove, you probably wouldn't be so desperately angry and frustrated if it weren't for the fact that Obama dusted off Hillary's criticisms and smiled.

I mean, if he did fight back as you suggested, you'd be calling him an angry black man today, and accusing him of blowing his top or of complaining like Hillary repeatedly did in the middle of previous debates.

I mean, one of the real problems with Senator Clinton is that most of the time, she's got the temper *AND* judgement of John McCain... a truely scary boss, apparently, who snaps on a dime.

The big difference between the two is that basically he's a warhawk and she's a chickenhawk. Neocon lite.

Well, if you like that sort of thing, vote McCain already.

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She fought back and did not brush her shoulder like a rapper.


Yeah, but millions of young voters swooned. It keeps them interested in voting in November, and I love it.

She's stuck selling herself and her "No Whoop-ti-do speeches" schtick to the nursing home set.

Too bad he would not brush off his radical friends.

They did play the audio about Move on.

They said it showed she is not a far left, anti war, liberal like McGovern, so it has no legs.

But the gop are attacking Obama's patriotism, calling him a reckless liar and terrorist lover.

Has he responded yet?

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Has he responded yet?

You mean: "when did you, Osama Obama HUSSEIN X, stop beating your wife and conspiring with terrorists?

Like that?

Things like attacking "patriotism" which is an intangible immeasurable quality, or calling someone a "reckless liar" and "terrorist lover" - are not substantive charges and you don't get that, but there is no answer to that kind of nonsense. That's the kind of bullshit crowds yell when they are on the verge of rioting - it's meaningless - every goddamn bit of that is meaningless.

You don't answer that kind of meaningless crap.

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Actually, there are answers to that crap - but none of them are polite and several are a long way from non-violent.

;)

I can see it now, obl, Hamas, and all the terrorists will make vidoes endorsing Obama.

This will be the swift boat attack Kerry claims will not happen.

Then Obama will come out and do a speech and put the right wing to shame. Obama's speeches > Right wing smear

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I'm gonna repost this from the last thread, because gottalie and that turd Matthew Weaver REALLY NEED TO SEE IT:

Gee, I'm sure all the Hillarybots above, the ones so expert on foreign policy that they can point out just how clueless Obama is on foreign policy, know exactly how it is that Hamas came to power. Right?

...er....

Ok, a primer for all you sub-geniuses, then.

Hamas came to power because the pathetically bumbling and incompetent Bush administration, via Condoleeza Rice, set a timetable for holding elections that was consistent with the White House political calendar (you know, the one they use to figure out when to "roll out new products") rather than listening to the Palestinians, or the Israelis, or anyone else who warned them what would happen if they pushed for elections to be held when they were ultimately held. The end result was a Hamas victory. Rice, predictably, proclaimed the Hamas victory as something "no one could have forseen" - no one, that is, except the Fatah party which in many cases had several candidates on the ballot to Hamas' one...and the Israelis...and everyone else they chose to ignore. The White House then condemned the utterly predictable Hamas victory, after having engineered it in the first place by unreasonable demands on the scheduling of the election.

So, to punish the Palestinians for electing the wrong people, all the aid to the occupied territories from the US, UN, EU, and Russia was blockaded. Which meant Fatah couldn't pay the salaries of their people. Meanwhile, Hamas was getting aid from Iran. So Rice goes over and demands more elections - immediately. Fatah leader Abbas tells her "we have to wait until the end of Ramadan" (no one could have forseen, etc.), which twisted Condi's drawers into a royal knot...so basically, the Bush administration's dog in the fight had no funds, while its enemy did, and there was a lot of dirty fighting back and forth. And Congress wouldn't approve money for Fatah, because of the fear it would be used against the Israelis. So Rice gets on the phone and does a little Iran-Contra II with Jordan, Egypt, UAE, and the Saudis to get money and arms to Fatah. Not all the aid came through, but enough of it did to ramp up the Fatah-Hamas warfare. Finally the Saudis managed to get Fatah and Hamas to sit down together and establish a national unity government - which again, was something Condi "did not anticipate" and was furious about - with the result that the State Dept doubled down in its pressure on Palestinian allies, ordering a timetable for electing a new government, one that would agree with the US on Israel. State made a series of demands about how security personnel were to be trained, that Hamas footsoldiers were not to be integrated with the forces, etc. When all this background stuff emerged, Hamas interpreted it the only way they could - as a blueprint for a US-backed Fatah coup. This led, naturally, to another round of violence that "no one could have anticipated". Hamas captured most of Fatah's arms and ammo in Gaza - the ones supplied by Condi's Iran-Contra II program - and Fatah no longer has a presence in Gaza. The Bush administration, the architects of the entire disaster, quite predictably refuse to meet with Hamas to try to sort out the mess. Now people in Gaza live on less than $2 a day, and there's no end in sight to either the economic paralysis or the political one; Hamas feels free to attack Israel with impunity (and why not - we won't negotiate with them and have done everything possible to eject them from the offices they were elected to) and the whole thing is a big stinking pile of shit.

A stinking pile of shit that was engineered by John McCain's BFF George W. Bush's administration - with whom McCain agrees 100% down the line when it comes to foreign policy. Which leads to three points: 1) would it come as any surprise that Hamas would favor anyone over a Bush ally?; 2) it's a bit ironic for McCain to be using that as a reason why people should find him preferable, since his dumbassed party engineered the whole fucking disaster that put Hamas in power; and 3) you have to be a special kind of stupid, towering asshole to jump aboard this kind of rampant dishonesty that completely ignores the facts of what happened and why when it comes to Hamas holding power. And yes, I'm looking at you, Matthew Weaver.

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I'm going to quit making fun of you, maybe, gotalife - you're so clearly not very bright.

Are you familiar with Sinn Fein? Hamas is just like Sinn Fein in that there are two arms of Hamas and one of them is a legitimate political organization, and one arm is the militant arm.

Just like Sinn Fein, in Ireland.

It helps when trying to discuss things, if you have even the most rudimentary idea of what it is you purport to be talking about.

Really, you are just an online noise cause you never say much that matters at all.

Yeah, I am the one believing Obama is a new kind of politician but goes negative and lies in all his fliers.

I am the one who believes he will unite our country but can't unite the party. He divides it.

I am the one who believes Obama can run this country but his ethics bill is a joke and he held one oversight on Afghanistan committee hearing because he was busted out on not having any.

I could go on but I think we all know who is the gullible fool Tena.

Obama is joke and so are his supporters not admitting they got punked.

Mccrazy is so foul and I am no longer amazed at the bootlicking media. I so want the primary to end so we can kick Mccrazy's ass back to Arizona.

He is going to fold like a pancake. We The People are sick and tired of the way they ruined this country.

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Love your gravatar!

And word!

An DNC ad does not matter... what matters is that Senator Obama is confronted with two candidates, Hillary Clinton and John McCain, who are both status quo candidates who will never challenge anyone and cannot win the WH less OB is dead.... HRC and John McCain are two wimps without any differences... HRC and John McCain are both paid for by the establishment elite..... the last thing this country needs is to have an old whore or an old john in the White House.

My greatest fear is that Obama will be assissinated by the HRC/McCain estalishment crowd... he proses a direct threat to their hegemony.

Sheesh, Tena, do you have nothing else but this site? I've looked over several threads here this weekend and it seems as if you've successfully hijacked at least three of them with your comment after comment. Not necessarily disagreeing with your comments, but jeez, is a comment every 1.27845 minutes really necessary?

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Well let's throw it open to a vote - Have I been hijacking threads?


{and by the way - shoot me because my mind and my fingers are fast.}

Yes and give it a rest .

We know you hate the Clintons just like the wingnuts.

Meth kills.

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Give it a rest? How about you do the same, goofball?

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That's right up there among funniest things ever posted on a comments board, gotalife.

You are here 24/7, from what I can tell - since I'm not. You're here every time I show up and you're still here when I get off in the evening.


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I don't have any problems with your comments, or how frequent they are---

And the whole "brush it off" thing? Geezers over the age of 30 have no clue about that. I'm guessing whole bunches of talking hairdoes had to have it explained to them.

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OHO - now I get Spider.

this is what it posted on a reader's blog thread:

liam,

Sometimes I agree with you and sometimes not, but please, if you post a link, don't post the whole article with it. Kinda defeats the purpose of the link.

Posted by SpiderPig


It thinks it's a thread monitor.

and thanks CTVoter - I like your comments =

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I'm with spider on this. Liam consistently posts long articles or columns. Just give us the link...and Liam should write in his own words.

(sigh) I enjoy reading the comments on this site to get a variety of opinions, and I always try to practice good etiquette whether online or in person. I apologize if I came off as a thread monitor. Sometimes my opinions get the better of me, though.

(BTW, did anyone else notice it only took a minute or less for the original response to my first comment?)

And thanks for your agreement on the link item, CTvoter.

This will be my last post in this thread and on this topic.

Pig out.

Come on folks, back your fellow Obama supporter before she gets her feelings hurt and threatens to leave again.

Where is the unity?

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do you mean me? When did I ever threaten to leave?

I left the other day when I was too mad to be polite about Hillary-Joe.

But my feelings weren't hurt - I was too fucking mad.

otherwise - you are making shit up again.

I thought I only hated liars! Clinton=lies.....Yeah, I hate her!

Obama lies too.

Do you hate him too?

Here is a clue, politicians lie but Clinton admitted it which is very rare.

Then she still gets attacked by Obama supporters for a admitted mistake.

Yes, ya'll do hate the Clintons.

That is a proven fact.

Obama supporters hate the Clintons, and this is a proven fact? I'm not sure what the "fact" is, nor how could it be possibly proven. If you mean some Obama supporters hate the Clintons, I'm sure that could be proven. However, if you mean most or all, as you imply, then that is not proven and not true.

Desperation becomes you.

Pathetic.

What lie did Hillary Clinton ever admit to AS A LIE?! What lie has she ever admitted to AS A LIE?

Did she ever admit to lying when she accused Gennifer Flowers publically of doctoring audiotapes to suggest she and her husband had an affair that he later was forced to admit to under oath?!

Did she admit to any lies when she was subpoenaed in the in the White House and responded about forty times on record "I do not recall"?!

Really. Name one lie she's ever admitted to as an actual lie. Just one. Ever.

I mean, what's her excuse for "misremembering" or just plain forgetting the things she previously said that she remembers so well, so frequently?

How did all those travel staffers get fired?
"Gee... I don't remember."

How did these subpoenaed records get in your office?
"Gee... I'm sure I don't recall."

What was your involvement in your husband's pardons? Was your brother involved?

*cackle, cackle* "I don't know what you're talking about."

So... she has Alzheimer's, perhaps?!

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Yes, in fact at this juncture I do hate Hillary Clinton - but it's temporary. I'm mad at her.

I don't hate Bill - I feel sorry for him.

And Gallup's tracking poll is starting to go back up for Obama, like we didn't see that coming.

Good for you.

Then you will get over it when she is the nominee.

You will love President Clinton when he goes after mcwar to counter the corporate media free pass.

It will get ugly.

Your post have gotten to the point where i don't even get annoyed at them anymore its more comical now then anything else.

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This is an outrageous thing that the dnc is doing to the Clinton campaign.

It implies that it is more important to focus on John McCain as the opponent, instead of Barack Obama.

This ad is a genuine setback for Hillary Clinton.

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Huh? Setback for Clinton? I don't see how. I don't see it as a setback for any Democrat. McCain is getting a free ride right now.

Free ride because he owns the media, and because he doesn't have an opponent yet. So how is this a setback for Clinton?

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The Democratic National Committee just released this new ad hitting McCain on the economy -- it's first run is this morning on ABC, during George Stephanopoulos' interview with the Arizona Senator...

This is excellent ad placement.


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Hmmm...no responses to my post outlining exactly who Hamas' BFFs have been...can't say I'm surprised.

Let's just say that this is an argument that John McCain really doesn't want to have.

I understand McCain was campaigning for Hillary this morning on the Ayers "issue". Maybe Obama should just get ahead of the game and make a speech apologizing for anything any black person ever said or did, since this looks to be their game plan. I fully expect some Republican or member of the media ...I repeat myself...to at some point ask a "question" like this: "Senator Obama, in 1988 George H W Bush won the election in part because of Michael Dukakis' relationship with a convicted rapist named Willie Horton. Willie Horton is black. You are also black, Senator Obama. Do you denounce and reject Willie Horton and his actions, Senator Obama, and should voters feel uncomfortable about your association to Willie Horton?"

I mean, seriously, this is where it's all headed. With the aid of the gottalies and Matthew Weavers.

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I'm hoping that the Obama campaign has a group of individuals thinking through the most outrageously stupid and ridiculous claims that McCain will try to make, and planning the response to them.

I can imagine a new group, called "Muslims for McCain" that will publicly throw their support to McCain because Obama is giving Muslims a bad name...

They've got to be ready for such crap.

As for this:

you have to be a special kind of stupid, towering asshole to jump aboard this kind of rampant dishonesty that completely ignores the facts of what happened and why when it comes to Hamas holding power.

McCain is counting on people not knowing the facts. Republicans always do that.

This is the fault of the negative campaign of Barack Obama and his supporters. When one runs as a candidate with no experience and tries to mislead the public on who the man truly is, and who his associates are, and what he has done in an unremarkable political past. Since there is little meat on his bones, the Obamites whine, slime, and scream at every non issue. It has been the most divisive campaign in history, only made remarkable due to it's gall in calling it self about hope and change, It is a change all right, right back to the days of Mayor Daly tactics of voter suppression.

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WTF? The fact that the DNC is running an ad against John McCain is the fault of Obama?

Too funny....

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The media are in charge of this pernicious nominating process. It's time that Hillary and Obama, if they're concerned about destroying the Party, quit knuckling under to the media by agreeing to engage in these endless non-debates which are nothing more than media displays to attract advertising revenue.

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Huh? Setback for Clinton? I don't see how. I don't see it as a setback for any Democrat. McCain is getting a free ride right now.

Free ride because he owns the media, and because he doesn't have an opponent yet. So how is this a setback for Clinton?

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I was trying to be sarcastic. Actually, the only thing that matters to the Clinton campaign is perpetuating this fiction that she is still in the race. Anything---such as this dnc ad---which does not do that is a setback for her.

"Obama's negative campaign." What is this crap? Sorry, but I've seen and heard this phrase repeated so many times and I can no longer sit back and think just politics.

I can think of a few examples where Obama has gone negative on Clinton without it being a counterpunch. Just a few. Clinton, however, has used her lackeys time and again to either drum up stuff (that hardly sticks) or tags along with MSM and throws her little jabs in.

If Obama wanted to go negative he could start here: http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm. Note that he only brought up the pardons in his defense against HRC's pathetic attempt to piggyback on Stephanogibsopolousonasaurus.

And her husband's pardons are fair game for her if she wants to claim as experience her proximity to power during her husband's presidency.

You are being intellectually dishonest with yourself every time you try to label him as negative in the face of what your candidate's campaign does. Yes, he might just run a negative ad against The Monster. Yes, he might just expose her ties to the shadier aspects of her husband's presidency. As she likes to say, "fair game."

It's fine if you don't like Obama as much as I now dislike HRC. Just quit being stupid about it.

absolutely!

Greg sed:

The difficulty for the Dems right now is that as long as the Dem primary drags on, it will continue to suck up much of the media oxygen, making it all but impossible to mount any sort of effective effort to frame McCain the way Dems hope to.


1) Not only is there an absence of framing McCain the way Dems hope but both McCain AND Hillary Clinton are framing Obama in exactly the same way.
2) Hillary Clinton has/is framing McCain as the more desirable presidential choice in comparison to Obama.

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