Colombia demonstrates some wisdom. Will Clinton learn from it?

whoops! It's OK Marky..you still have that fat load of cash that the Clinton's owe you to fall back on.

So Columbia has more sense than Clinton!

I'm glad somebody fired Mark Penn.

Appears that the Columbians have more sense as to what’s owed to them by people who they hire to do a job. Sen. Clinton does not.

But I know we won't hold Mark Penn's "error in judgment" against Hillary any more than we blamed Obama for sitting for twenty years in a church where the pastor damned America. We're a very fair-minded people.

Maybe the Colombians figure paying for access to the Clintons this way was cheaper, but still not worth it. Maybe this is a vote of no confidence in the outcome of the race.

Good.

He should focus on this election.

It was an admitted mistake and she stayed loyal to him. He needed some more cocaine.

Move on.

I am watching Obama's stump speech.

It is the same stump speech since Iowa but his campaign did call McWar a warmonger.

McWar demanded Obama repudiate the comment and Obama caved.

Weak.

Of course, McWar is a warmonger on Iran.

We have video of him singning bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran.

What do you call that Obama?

So it turns out the Colombians were expecting more than just PR from Jabba the Penn. They were paying for access into Clinton's trade policy. Now that Clinton has to distance herself from them to secure Pennsylvania's blue-collar vote, the Colombians figure they can't believe a word she says.
Their next move is to secure a lobbyist involved in the McCain camp. Count on it.

This has nothing to do with the real issue: Hillary's chief strategist has been working trade deals for over a year. It's the relationship between Hillary and Mark Penn that people should be talking about.

The Clintons spun all of you around once again?

Add Penn to the growing list of people inconvenienced by the Clinton Presidential Lottery.

Penn is scum. I was appalled when she hired him. Then she compounded the whole by hiring every last piece of scum the Democratic party has ever been in the consulting business with. James Carville? I mean - really, Hillary? You had to bring back that noronic cracker with one of the most mean-spirited mouths in politics?

I was hoping he'd go away. Thankfully, I hear he is - they're leaving DC. What does that tell anyone?

Campaign staff matters. I know I beat this into the ground, but I am sooooooooooooo damn tired of losing elections.

I think the Obama camp calling McCain a warmonger then Obama caving would be a good post here.

I think we should discuss this issue instead of all the distractions.

I mean, weak on national saecurity lost the last two elections and is more important than Penn.

Thankfully, I hear he is - they're leaving DC.

Carville and Matalin? Please? Do you have a link? Please?

Will they be moving to an unreachable part of the country? Please?

Clinton has little choice but to fire Penn. Is that enough?

Penn has created a real problem for Clinton. This very real conflict of interest was already known but mostly ignored in MSM. But when Penn met with Colombian officials he created a story with legs. Clinton surely knew about Penn’s involvement. Either that or she was oblivious to what Washington insiders knew. Hence, the only comment she could make was that she didn't see it as a conflict of interest. Either way it looks bad for her. It gives Obama’s union supporters (and all supporters) an opportunity to further challenge her integrity, credibility and judgment. Doubt about whatever her past role in NAFTA was ceases to be just a historical matter. Now the question is: What is her real position and how might she really represent her working class constituency should she become president.

The problem she has with voters about how truthful she is will color whatever she or her surrogates says about this matter. In turn, because this looks bad, it will potentially further diminish people’s perceptions of her honesty. That may have some impact on Pennsylvania.

The bigger problem will be with super delegates. How does a super delegate who depends on union support and argues for protecting American jobs, endorse Clinton without a measure of risk and the need to explain himself. This is why she must fire Penn, swiftly.

There are probably background issues that will surface in the blogs, as well. Who are Penn’s other clients? What are the undisclosed details of the Clinton’s 2007 taxes? How well does Clinton run her campaign (how much was Penn paid?) and what does that say about her judgment? How does this expose her in a general election and does this mean that she is less electable? These may or may not be fair questions, but they will gain some traction on the internet nonetheless.

This may overshadow Bosnia if she doesn’t act quickly. It is 3:00 am.

Carvilles fleeing DC:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/29/1618/82700/323/486814

This is a glimpse of the general if Obama is the nominee.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/ 04/05/mccain-called-a-warmonger-at-obama -event/

He can't fight back because he wants unity and will cave.

Need a fighter.

I could swear I tagged that comment correctly.

He can't fight back because he wants unity and will cave.

This is getting sad - which do you want? You want a hawk? Or not?

Uh Oh. things are getting bad for your hero:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/05/scathing-editorial-obama_n_95210.html

His new pastor is a problem too.

Go figure.

Are they going to post anything bad about Obama here?

thanks for the link to the Carville story. Did they live in the DC or thereabouts throughout Bill Clinton's 8 years too? If so, it is quite peculiar that they are running off to NOLA at this point in time.

You know, I can't remember exactly when they married, but I think they've been in DC ever since.

So basically, he came in with Bill and she was there with the Repugs and they met and - they both proceeded to get weirder than shit - he looks like a manimal at this point and I don't want to think about what that NeoCon Fright of a wife of his looks like.

Erk!

From the Daily Kos:

Remember when Hillary Clinton said this?

Peering at the 50 or so reporters packed into a small hotel conference room here, she added: "I would ask you to look at this story and substitute my name for Sen. Obama’s name and see what you would do with this story ... Just ask yourself [what you would do] if some of my advisers had been having private meetings with foreign governments."

Well, she no longer has to wonder about what would happen thanks to Mark Penn, who once said he had time for only two clients, Clinton and Microsoft. Clearly, despite the millions the campaign is paying him, he has some extra free time for additional clients.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/4/21351/74499/741/490472

& CNN:

"I don't think people should come to Ohio and tell the people of Ohio one thing and then have your campaign tell a foreign government something else behind closed doors," Clinton said then. "That's the kind of difference between talk and action and that I've been pointing out in this campaign."

"I would ask you to look at that story, substitute my name for Senator Obama," she also said. "If some of my advisers had been having private meetings with foreign governments and basically saying ignore what I'm saying because it's only political rhetoric … I think it raises serious questions."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/05/colombia-cuts-ties-with-clinton-strategist/

I am sorry, I will not repond to trolls.

This is the online equivalent of patriotism; i.e. the last refuge of scoundrels.

lol!

no points for the well placed link troll critic??? Id figure there would be a category for that... also why no points for goat life in the inflammatory avatar category (even just a few?)

geeez!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/05/hillary-clinton-asks-obam_n_95238.html

So, anyway, back on topic....

Penn got fired by the Colombian rightwing government for his conflict of interest. They likey likey what Hillary no likey.

And he's still working for Clinton.

Sleazy.

She is pro Obama and this one talks about Josh:

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/30/14369/6437

Gotalife is slipping. Surely it's time he noticed that Penn (a mere advisor) got fired by Colombia while Obama (the candidate himself) is an alumnus of Columbia.

If that's not a smoking gun of the usual Clintonite caliber, I don't know what is.

Laying down the Trollink Honeypot gauntlet - a gripping homage to The Hundred Acre Wood, - Gotalife leads us on a journey of self-discovery, where an Onerous Social Experiment Ring glows. Dare we pick it up?

I am not worthy.

(-.-)(_ _)(-.-)

Gotalife="el Zilcho"

I like the sound of that...

T.C. 3000 I bow humbly in the presence of such greatness.

well, at least one good thing about Clinton, her supporters don't come in their pants when they see her on youtube. It's extremely distasteful to observe the smug and smarmy attitude of Obama's folk, even more distasteful than the Rev Wright's dashiki. I assure you, when pretty boy screws up foreign policy and the economy, you won't be coming in your collective pants anymore, you'll be shitting bricks : )