I'm absolutely appalled that Cheney is a torture-loving son of a bitch who got drunk and shot an old man in the face, after outing a CIA agent and lying us into war.

To paraphrase my man Obama, that's a debate I'd love to have. Who's more appalling? Wright, or the bunch of miscreants we've allowed to fester at our nation's helm for far too long?

Wait a minute, you mean Obama doesn't have the support of sharp-shooter Dick Cheney, one of the biggest criminals in Washington? He might as well just pack up and go home then.

We ALL already know that the Republicans are going to bring up the Wright issue. We all know they are going to go after Obama on other issues to. It's election season. Political parties attack. DUH!

Now the real issue is, have the voters moved on from the Wright controversy? Will the recycled attacks against Obama work? Or will the voters get tired of it, causing a backlash against the Republicans?

We all know what's going to happen, but we don't know what effect it will have. But seeing how Obama has held his ground so far, I'd feel comfortable making the prediction that the renewed attacks will NOT work. If the Wright controversy was to doom Obama, it would have already happened.

Well, it's nice of Ol' Deadeye Dick to do what he can to unify a house divided.

Thanks, Dick.

I find it interesting that the Vice President was able to listen to Pastor Wright's comments, and comment on them, but "hasn't gotten into the business of trying to judge how Senator Obama dealt with it." That's convenient.

Let them attack.

The other guy called his wife a "trollop" and a "cunt" and said Chelsea was really ugly because her father was Janet Reno. He is also the man who said, "I hate gooks."

I'd really like to know how "I hate gooks" is less racist than "US of KKK A". Maybe we'll have that conversation if and when the Repiglicans decide to broach the issue.

Having Dick Cheney against you is a positive. Is he going to bring his mighty 15% approval rating to bear on the '08 race?

Cheney ought to just head back to Wyoming to shoot a few more friends in the face before dying of his 12th heart attack.

What a Dick move.

Why is it that TPM reported on this, and Brian Schweitzer's comments, and many other stories, but didn't even mention what seems to be one of the bigger stories, which is Bill's business associates who screwed over people in PA?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/10/clinton-firms-deal-with-i_n_96032.html

Here comes the big rooster now!

Bring it, mofos.

Mean while:

So far, in just this week, 17 more US Troops have had their lives tossed away in Iraq, because of the absolutely evil machinations of this War Mongering Five Deferments Dick.

It's remarkable Dick Cheney hasn't been indicted for war crimes.

"I thought some of the things he said were absolutely appalling."

To paraphrase Deferments Dick - SO!?

I really hope that the Dems have some 527's and 501's gearing up to take on the Repukes and the approaching shit storm. We are gonna need it.

As an Obama supporter, I'm glad. Get the right to attack Wright's character and Obama's association with him right now. It's a bogus attack and I'm utterly confident that this will become clear to anyone who'd ever consider voting for Obama anyway once it's hashed out in public.

The only advantage for Hillary in all of this as far as saying "the GOP won't be so kind in the Fall!" goes lies in the uncertainty there. Will Obama trip up and call Bush (or whomever) a racist or a slaveowner or play the Black demagogue role and give ammunition to the right? I think not, and Obama's excelled every time he's given the chance to rationally defend himself against absurd accusations that somehow he, too, must be a Black nationalist or an antisemite or whatever if his Pastor once espoused those views (even if that were true, it'd still be absurd to elect a President based on whether or not he holds his church to some American standard).

Clinton's tried to nudge Obama into going off-the-cuff with her "I'd have left Trinity" remarks, Davis is now pushing harder. They know their only shot is to get Obama to break publicly and soon, and it's not happening. Give him another chance to artfully reject this line from Cheney and it'll only show again how he's one of the only people with integrity in the argument.

Note that it's a lot easier for Obama to bring this up in reference to Cheney in future appearances, and a lot more effective than lashing out at some person or other in right wing media who's too easy a target.

I think Cheney is the worst American to have ever lived. Seriously. Nobody can top him for what he's done in his career.

Cheney and other conservatives are trying to keep the Democratic primary struggles going on and on, so they are giving credibility to the Clintonites efforts to revive this stuff now.

In the general election, ANY Democratic nominee will be attacked with one thing or another. Right now, though, they want to keep Clinton in the Democratic primary race for as long as possible.

oh jayeebus! Popcorn Haid is back.

PAGING TROLLCRITIC 3000!

Marginal Player's own profile. He clearly has no problem supporting a War Monger for President. He even endorses him on his own profile:

Here it is:

# Age: 52
# Politics: DLC
# Party: (DEM) 2008: 1.Clinton, 2. McCain

Greg perpetuates the Clinton Myth

should Obama become the nominee.

So, a man who drinks the blood of infants in satanic rituals and who casts no shadow doesn't agree with Jeremiah Wright....hmmm, let's just say that any time you're on the opposite side of any issue or opinion from Darth Cheney, you're on the side of the angels.

What an asshole. No wonder the secret service have to watch his back longer.........frankly, he should have to pay for that bill out of his own pocket. He brought it on himself.

My answer to his needing protection: "So?"

Is that fat fuck still beating his wife?

I mean, with such clarity of thought, how can we NOT support Clinton?

It's all about going backward. We can't have the world we had in 2001.

It's gone. I'm sick of being dragged backwards.

They think this is change? Repeating what happened a decade ago? Clarity of thought indeed - I thought our side was supposed to be the side that lives in the real world.

You mean Cheney knows what a Preacher is? Could'a fooled me.

I think when you take Wright in the context of what he's doing and his results, I simply agree with what he preaches. I really won't listen to opposing opinions from people who won't go within 3 miles of blighted inner city areas. If you aren't trying to help, you can shut your yap about the methods of people who are not only trying but succeeding. That is the common thread between all the religious folks Obama has identified in a positive way. They all have some loopy views that happen to give them credibility with people who need help most, and they all happen to have excellent positive results in turning people's lives around and producing positive social outcomes. Read between the lines.

This is the liberal version of the neocons.

The democrats have to nominate one without the tremendous baggage of Rev. Wright.

Well you can keep saying that all night and all day tomorrow and I'll keep telling you that you are totally full of shit.

That's your opinion and I don't agree at all.

Fuck Dick Cheney and everything he says.

He's a lying sack of shit, a horrible human being, and if there's ever real justice for the past 7 years, he'll be in fucking jail.

Sorry for the language, but in this case, I think it's appropriate.

As a cheeky, 22-year-old college student who has supported Obama from the beginning, I find myself intrigued by these racial tidbits like a catfish mouthing a chunk of putrified chicken liver.

Be still my wavering heart!

Cheney plays cards?

Why is everyone so shocked to hear Cheney bring up Wright? Anyone with any commonsense should be bringing up Rev. Wright and Obama's 20 year relationship. Shame on Democrats for trying to sweep this under the carpet. Cheney's just giving you all a very mild mention here, just wait until the 527s and everyone else get started on this. Then add in Rev. Meeks, Rezko, the Ayers, and others, Obama will have no credibility left.

BTW, as for trying Cheney for war crimes, I may be wrong but as VP he has no constitutional authority and simply there in case Bush dies. But maybe Bush did confer authority to him. I think this one sits at Bush's doorstep. As I've written numerous times, I think that anyone planning, ordering, or carrying out torture should be tried for war crimes.

Matthew
http://www.TheProblemWithObama.com

Is there really something wrong with bringing up this matter? After all, it reflects very, very badly on Obama's judgment at best and his personal racial views, at worst. No matter what Obama supporters think of Cheney, Obama is in deep doo-doo over his weirdo preacher.

No matter what Obama supporters think of Cheney, Obama is in deep doo-doo over his weirdo preacher.

Because you say so?

You have to bring better game than that. That's just bullshit.

Ha! First it was "Evil Hillary", now it's "Evil John McCain" and "Evil Dick Cheney". Do Obama supporters know how to do their supporting without spitting green pea soup on anyone who dares to criticize little what's-his-name (rhymes with Osama or something)?

Are you trying to tell me you don't think Dick Cheney is evil?

wow.

"Ha! First it was "Evil Hillary", now it's "Evil John McCain" and "Evil Dick Cheney". Do Obama supporters know how to do their supporting without spitting green pea soup on anyone who dares to criticize little what's-his-name (rhymes with Osama or something)?"

FIRST it was Evil Hillary? Most normal people with an IQ over 40 have known for years that Dick Cheney is an evil man. Here's a clue. If you want to know who the evil guy in the room is, check the body count.

Man, you conservatives sure have trouble being persuasive. No wonder you rely on fear and smear to win elections. No one agrees with you on anything.

Here's what's wrong with bringing up this matter:

Anyone who brings it up is a rank hypocrite.

Beyond that, there's nothing much wrong with it. And if you are a person who has regularly severed relationships with spouses/partners, parents, siblings, friends, business associates, etc on the basis of hearing them say just a few things with which you disagreed, and if you consistently do this, choosing to ignore all of the good qualities in the people you know and rejecting them on the basis of a few intemperate remarks, as if this is the entire measure of their character, well then, go right ahead and continue to bring it up without fear of revealing yourself as a rank hypocrite. Because otherwise, that's what you are.

Anyone who brings it up is a rank hypocrite.

You are so good, Jenn - you always cut right to the heart of things.

I really hope the Repugs run on this. I can tell how much it is going to backfire.

Please, Repugs, keep voter turnout on our side high by using this kind of shit. Thanking you in advance...

screw CHENEY, in my mind he is WORSE than BUSH.
His legacy is in yesterday's garbage. This man screwed up our country and Iraq. He is a liar and a fake and a businessman. He doesn't care about our nation, nor does he care about our constitution, or about intelligence, about facts, about decency and honesty. He is a CROOK to the highest level. He does not care about our veterans, all he cared about was his AGENDA, regardless of the FACTS. He has made money off the deaths of others, innocent people, innocent men and women in uniform and innocent Iraqis. He has not made our nation safer. He can say what he wants about WRIGHT, but what is ironic is that Cheney cannot see how evil he really is.
Now that is scary.

As Bob Dylan would say, he is a MASTER OF WAR. Perhaps also a Jokerman.

Today Cheney's underling Bush threatened war with Iran. Tonight Chris Matthews & Pat Buchanan gleefully posited that an "October Surprise" attack on Iran would rally voters behind McCain. The Surge was staged for McCain's benefit so why not war with Iran? One thing that is apparent is that the administration will do everything in it's power to avoid the humiliation of an al-Sadr victory in the Iraqi October election.

I guess it's a good thing Wright isn't running for president. Then again, he's done far more good for the American public than Cheney seems able to even imagine in this lifetime.

It's one thing to express something provocative in favor of citizens who have felt disenfranchised from the so-called American Dream; it's another to actively generate policy from the executive level to insure it.

Besides, who really gives a flying fuck what Cheney "thinks" anymore?

The VP sold his soul, along with handing over our country's domestic and foreign policies, to the Oil Industry years ago.

btw, classifying Hannity as a conservative, rather than a blatant neo-fascist, is kind at best.

Appalling. Such a miserable man. Yet it's impossible to feel sorry for him.

Good for him. He may think that some of the things Wright SAID were appalling; we know that many of the things Cheney DID are appalling.

Well, I happen to like Cheney, even though he has also made his fair share of misjudgements. But I like that he's obviously not religious, while Clinton and Obama make as much of their "religious faith" as Bush, Jr. But I also supported ardently Howard Dean.

But Wright is a fair issue. "I belong to a club whose leader says really crazy and ignorant shit on a regular basis. But this leader is my mentor so I can't just quit the club, can I? But is it true that the CIA invented AIDS to kill black people?" That is basically what Obama is saying, behind the flowery rhetoric.

Oh, and I see the NYT story about welfare reform, with that jerk-off Peter Edelman and his ridiculous wife whining about "why should poor people have to work?" Really, it is astonishing to me that there are people who believe that significant numbers of people should be excused from any obligation to support themselves.

As for African-Americans in academe, a very revealing story occured recently at Teachers' College at Columbia. An AA tenured prof was found to have plagiarized extensively, but was not sanctioned, merely because the school realized it could not fire a black woman, under any circumstances. It used to be that for African-Americans, publishing some shoddy "scholarship," almost always about race, was enough for tenure. Well, now the bar has been lowered substantially. And that ois a problem, not only for the integrity of academic institutions, but for blacks themselves, because without incentives to excell, they will never catch up.

Meanwhile, my little firecracker, 18 years my junior, "got over" about 10 or 12 times last night. God, I am God's gift to women.

Milo,

"AA"? "Ridiculous wife"? You really have some major unresolved issues concerning black people and women, don't you? Your contemptuous rant on academic integrity would be more credible if you corrected your typos prior to posting your comments. How did you ever complete a PhD and a JD with such stellar disregard for the quality of your work product?

oh brother. Goldspinner, you doubtlessly would make a fine secretary, which is the person who is most responsible for spell-checking.

Eh, law skool and b-skool were painfully easy, a total breeze. And I was astonished at just how appallingly ignorant my Iby educated classmates were, and I wore with pride the fact that I am a 10th grade drop-out with a mail order BA.

As for what's her name, she is someone who is even more interested in self-promotion than John Edwards.

As for Prof Edelman, he is a complete loser.

What poor people need is education and skills, not blather about reparations or dashikis and CIA AIDS non-sense.

And sad to say, if Obama actually does start moving towards protectionism, it is going to hurt the US economy far more than you know. And you'll be hurting all those poor third world people you all profess to care about. Nike does far more good for the poor than what's her face, Edelman's wife.

These vile douchebags will hit on this type of shit over and over.

We'll hit on the need to get out of Iraq, the need to fix the economy and the need to have a president who's not going to continue the policies of Bush/Cheney.

Who do you think will win?

Hey Obama supporters, do not waste your time blogging. I sure sure there are plenty of women you have not called F*cking Wh*res today. Keep up your uplifting campaign and get out there. You get extra points from Obama if you can all cheer after you say it.

dembillc -

I will vote Hillary vs McCain.

Will you vote Obama vs McCain?

Is that Five Deferment Dick criticizing the ex-Marine?

Milo,

Appellate clerkships tend to sharpen one's reasoning and writing skills. Did Natalia write your briefs for you when you were in law school?