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Bill: I Didn't Say Obama Camp Played Race Card On Me

Bill Clinton, in a new interview, appears to deny that he said yesterday that the Obama camp was playing the race card on him:

NBC/NJ: "Sir, what did you mean yesterday when you said that the Obama campaign was playing the race card on you?"

CLINTON: "When did I say that, and to whom did I say that?"

NBC/NJ: "On WHYY radio yesterday"

CLINTON: "No, no, no. That's not what I said. You always follow me around and play these little games, and I'm not going to play your games today. This is a day about election day. Go back and see what the question was, and what my answer was. You have mischaracterized it to get another cheap story to divert the American people from the real urgent issues before us, and I choose not to play your game today. Have a nice day."

Yesterday, Bill said: "I think that they played the race card on me. We now know, from memos from the campaign that they planned to do it [all] along."

The Clinton campaign confirms that Bill was refering to this memo written by an Obama campaign aide, which sought to highlight a pattern of race-based politicking on the part of the Clintons. It was never clear who the intended recipient of it was. And it's true that Obama himself said during a debate that he regretted the memo.

But while the memo appeared to encourage people to see a Clinton camp pattern of race-based politics, it didn't reveal any plan to play the race card against him all along, as Bill said.

Separately, Ben Smith offers this poignant observation on Bill's latest: "It is a reminder of what an utterly different era it was in which he was the reigning political master."

Late Update: Here's vid of Bill...



Comments (139)

Thanks Greg for posting this.

I'm really concerned about the Clinton campaign, and I'm not alone in believing it totally unprepared to handle a 21st Century White House.

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If, for argument's sake, we wanted to give Bill the benefit of the doubt here, he does seem to be technically correct, though note I'm a scientist rather than a linguist.
Yesterday, he said the Obama camp *played* the race card (note past tense). The questioner today implied that he'd said the Obama camp *was playing* the race card (present perfect progressive tense), implying that they were still playing it.

Just sayin' ;-)

wow foreigner.

I think Bill Clinton himself would be envious of your parsing abilities, although admittedly, this isn't quite as good as "it depends on the definition of the word is."

Ha. Good catch. What a maroon.

DEAR BILL, N E V E R M I N D

I never said Barry had a "Race Card" he wanted to play, I said he had a "Race Car" he wanted to "play in". There's a difference. One is a shiny toy he can sit in and make Indy car noises. The other is a something Plouffe is probably waving over his head in Indiana this very moment.

Sincerely
H. Dean

Don't forget your "Change you can belive in" sir! Yelled the waitress as I drove off..

Dude. You suck.

Who are you gonna believe? Me or your lyin' ears?

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I've been watching Bill Clinton on the campaign trail for awhile and to me it looks like he is drunk quite often. I could be wrong, it could be blood pressure medication or some other pharmaceutical, but he's on something.

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This is very strange. It makes me think that this seemingly far-out blog post may have some credibility after all:

Bill Clinton’s Madness: A Consequence of Heart-Bypass
Surgery Brain Damage

During my 40 years of medical practice I have never heard a doctor warn a patient before bypass surgery that an expected complication is memory loss. After surgery when the family complains of dad’s fits of anger, I have never heard a doctor admit that personality change is a common consequence of surgery. Yet these well-recognized side effects have been reported in medical journals since 1969.1

Brain damage during bypass surgery is so common that hospital personnel refer to it as “pump head.” The primary cause is emboli produced during surgery from clamping the aorta and from the “heart-lung machine.” This machine pumps blood to keep the patient alive while the heart is stopped during the operation. Unfortunately, this pump also introduces toxic gases, fat globules, and bits of plastic debris into the bloodstream of the patient under anesthesia. Once they are in the bloodstream, these particles migrate to the brain where they can clog capillaries and prevent adequate amounts of blood and oxygen from flowing to the brain. Essentially, all patients experience brain emboli during surgery and for many the damage is permanent.

In 2001, an article in the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 5-years after bypass surgery 42% of patients showed decline in mental function of approximately 20 percent or more.2 A study published this year (2008) in the Annals of Thoracic Surgery using MRI testing just after bypass surgery found brain damage in 51% of patients.3 Three years after their time on the bypass pump, significant permanent reduction in mental capacity was identified in 31% of patients. I am not talking major stroke here; but these patients can't remember names or numbers as they once did, experience sleep disturbances (including nightmares), suffer mood swings, and lose intellectual acuity. Approximately 30 percent of people suffer persistent depression and some even contemplate suicide.

Our former president needs our understanding and support. A simple explanation by his doctors of the cause of his recent aberrant behaviors should bring peace of mind to Hillary and her campaign staff. If Mr. Clinton better understood his current limitations, he and his staff could take precautionary steps to avoid embarrassments. A long-overdue explanation would help his adoring public more easily accept his mistakes and readily forgive him. It is not your fault, Mr. Clinton.

As importantly, public recognition of the harm done to Bill Clinton by the heart surgery business would help the patients who undergo bypass surgery, and their families, to better understand similar changes they have experienced. A little attention from the media could also shine some light on the lack of survival benefits from this $90,000 procedure performed nearly half-a-million times annually in the US, and the superior benefits coming from diet and lifestyle changes.

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does anyone really want another 4-8 years of this?

can we afford it?

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Get OUT of MY YARD!! IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!

LOL... been missin' your insights of late.

Time for a shameless plug
Bill Clinton: Rewriting History

Last dog dying of Alzheimers

I cried with joy that Nov. in 1992 when Bill Clinton was elected POTUS. I defended him passionately throughout the years of his presidency and against any subsequent attacks on his legacy.

Unfortunately, power must be a poison which poisons the brain. America, keep these people as far away as possible from the White House, for the good of our nation, the world, and for theirs.

Bill lost my support when he went from committing a personal indiscretion to committing perjury. It's now fairly clear that the guy is a professional liar, but it's still sad to see.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/transcript2.html

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I just heard Joe Scar quote Hillary as saying "We have to win in Iraq and we have to win in Afganistan." Is this true? Has anyone else reported on this?

I don't believe it, but he just said it right now on MSNBC.

I don't think Hillary wants to "win in Iraq"!

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She said it this morning on GMA, I don't think she said it on KO last night. But Scar. is right to highlight this - the majority of Democrats don't think this is a "winnable" war. She's entered John McBush land.

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oh bill...

this is all really too bad.

I'm sorry to see this. I don't think this is just ordinary forgetfulness. I hope that he is healthy.

And no, the country doesn't Bill Clinton in the White House. Or in the VP residence, either.

Ben Smith offers this poignant observation on Bill's latest: "It is a reminder of what an utterly different era it was in which he was the reigning political master."

Poignant, indeed. I'm downright tearin' up over here now that the Clintons are beginning to realize (albeit two years too late) that they can no longer lie to the electorate with impunity.

Paging Bill Clinton: it's called the internet, dumbshit. Your former Vice-President invented it, remember? And while you were busy selling out (Colombia?! Really?!) everything you and your wife pay lip service to come election-time since you've left office, that same former Vice-President took the opposite path. You know, the one dedicated to saving the planet from our recklessness. Funny how the only semi-noble Democratic legacy of the 90s will be Gore's.

Bill, you're worse than a habitual liar. You're unrepentantly duplicitous and everytime you pull a stunt like this (Saying X on Monday and then categorically denying you said X when questioned about it on Tuesday) you're insulting my intelligence. And to think I used to speak glowingly of your political acumen. Way to tank your wife's presidential campaign, dude. Good luck cashing those checks from the UAE for your "library," you fucking phony.

Let's get this over with already.

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memo's from the campaign, bill....what memo's, the ones stolen from the Obama campaign office?

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But the best part of this is that in the same interview quoted above by Greg Bill actually goes on to say the thing he is denying to have said.

NBC/NJ: “Sir, what did you mean yesterday when you said that the Obama campaign was playing the race card on you?”

CLINTON: “When did I say that, and to whom did I say that?”

NBC/NJ: “On WHYY radio yesterday”

CLINTON: “No, no, no. That’s not what I said. You always follow me around and play these little games, and I’m not going to play your games today. This is a day about election day. Go back and see what the question was, and what my answer was. You have mischaracterized it to get another cheap story to divert the American people from the real urgent issues before us, and I choose not to play your game today...."
[testy back-and-forth ensues]

INTERVIEWER (RE: Jackson comment): “Do you think that was a mistake, and would you do that again?"

CLINTON: "No. I think that they played the race card on me....

O. My. God.

They played the race card on me. I never said they played the race card on me. They played the race card on me.


Jesus, Bill.

We all need neck braces when following his lying.

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No, no, no,

Bill said they playED the race on him not that they are playING the race card on him.

You gotta focus on the tense...just like it depends on what the meaning of 'is' is.

My thing is that the Obama camapign could not have compiled a list of race-baiting statements had Bill not made them! So the Obama campaign never playED the race card they merely wrote up a list to show the pattern of Bill's racial remarks.

So how could it have been their strategy to compile race baiting statements made by Bill when they would not have any idea of what would come out of Bill's mouth until AFTER he said it.

What Bill wants us to believe is that the Obama campaign had a strategy all along that knew Bill was going to appeal to racists and write a memo on it to give to the media.

What I do not get is why folks are befuddled about why Bill is bringing race up again. It was always Bills intent to pander on the basis of race to create white racial solidarity for Hillary to win over the BLACK candidate.

His comments yesterday was nothing but the 'reverse discrimination' dogwhistle to the blue collar ethnic white boys! Recall Stepinfetchinopoulous played the 'affirmative action' card in the debate. So, clearly this was part of the Clinton campaign strategy in the last days before the vote.

Their are appealing to the 'otherness' animosity and racial blame game of struggling white working class whites.

Just more Archie Bunker politics.

So as he is denying saying it, he says it again!

Simply amazing!

Wow. I mean...just wow. What the hell happened to Bill Clinton?

Poor guy. I don't think he's well at all. Either that or he believes there's a substantial difference between these two statements:

I think that they played the race card on me

AND

The Obama campaign is playing the race card on me.

Oh, I get it! See...he wasn't saying they WERE playing the race card; he was saying HE THINKS they were.

Good lord.

Part of me hopes he is just confused and is not parsing like this. But the only alternative is that he is drifting away mentally, which is kind of sad. I would hate to see him destroy the respect the American people have for his presidency. Many folks I know think he was a fine president. His actions now could really overshadow his record/legacy.

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Wow...
Senility, perhaps? Or, as others have suggested, early signs of alzheimer's disease (notice the petulance regarding what "they" are doing to him).
He'll get our mockery, but maybe he deserves our pity. If I were Chelsea, I'd strongly urge him to see a physician.
Any doctors in the house with insights on elders and mental health issues?

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He can't control himself! A simple "No comment." or "I'm done talking about that, sir." would have been sufficient. But "I'm not going play these little games with you?" The hell?

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Some one needs to hand Bill a post-it before every interview with the words: "YouTube/Internet/24 Hour News Cycle" on it.

It's not 1992 anymore.

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This pre-dates "You Tube" this is RADIO, one would think Bill had mastered this medium.

Saddle up Bill ya whiney pussy.

I love how truth is totally mangled by this guy. He is destroying his legacy as POTUS by his lying, asshattery while campaigning for his wife.

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Who are you going to believe Bimbo Bill, the guy who lies under oath or the audio tape of what he said?

"I did not have racial insinuations with that recording, Miss Replayski"! Bimbo Bill Clinton.

Touché.

When caught on tape or video, it becomes "misspeaking."

Could anyone stomach 4 more years of the Clinton Bush wars? I couldn't. Each side is disgusting.

Aha, the backtracking begins ... he must have heard an earful from his wife. I really do feel sorry for him - he is out of touch and slightly delusional, and the world he knew no longer exists. Sad, really...if he had stuck to his Foundation work and taken a less visible role in the campaign he would have faired much better.

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So...

playing the race card is the new race card.

What I mean is that, at the end of the day, Clinton has managed to get us (and PA voters) thinking about race yet again, just in time for the undecided voters to break.

I'm amazed.

That's waaay too sinister! Next, you'll have me thinking that there are Communists under the bed....
they're behind the dooor....they're peeking from inside the cupboard!....
they're....they're....they're EVERYWHERE!!! AAAAAAGH!!!

BREAK DOWN:

Zogby Tracking:
Clinton: 51%
Obama: 41%

Suffolk:
Clinton: 52%
Obama: 42%
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SurveyUSA:
Clinton: 50%
Obama: 44%

Quinnipiac:
Clinton: 51%
Obama: 44%

Rasmussen:
Clinton: 49%
Obama: 44%

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Strategic Vision:
Clinton: 48%
Obama: 41%

Mason-Dixon:
Clinton: 48%
Obama: 42%

Insider Advantage:
Clinton: 49%
Obama: 42%

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ARG:
Clinton: 56%
Obama: 40%

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Zogby,Insider Advantage,ARG are the most latest polling data to be released.

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So what?

Hillary has always been ahead in PA, just like Obama has always been ahead in NC.

Not an indicator of much either way.

Most latest?

America's best and brightest hard at wrk.

Who cares, Hillary? The thread is about Bill Clinton forgetting 24 hours later the accusations he's made. If you want to post the damn polling data, put up a blog.

Thank you, Non-Sequitur Lady!

Wow...though this has nothing to do with the thread, those numbers are awesome for Obama. Considering that Clinton was leading in PA by 23 points about a month ago, that's a mighty hard fall. Thanks for the great news!

Yeah and will it be so great in November when the Obomb is a solid 10 points behind on election day??? Get real~ quick!

except he won't be.

Also, you can see she could not keep 20 points distance from Obama.

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Who are you going to believe Bimbo Bill, the guy who lies under oath, or the audio tape of what he said?

"I did not have racial insinuations with that recording, Miss Replayski"! Bimbo Bill Clinton.

The double standards on these folks are ridiculous. Glad to see some reporters not taking his crap on this.

Q. Wolfson, what is the operative reality today?
A. Making sure Obama says the same thing every day is called vetting; making sure Clintons say the same thing every day is called gotcha.

Check? Check.

Do you think the Clinton's get the irony in Bill defending his comments using the same rhetoric Obama used in the last debate? Do they exist solely to provide the nation with an inexhaustable source of irony?

If someone figured out how to generate electricity using Irony we'd be SET!

CNN yesterday had hillary clinton winning pennsylvania by 7 points but know they have her up to 9 points.

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That's nice.

Cool, so no matter what, in all the polls you cited thus far Clinton make no appreciable gain in delegates or narrowing of Obama's insurmountable lead.

et us know if you will be spamming the sit with more polls, all of which will be no longer operable in less than 7 hours.

Go away. Seriously. You're trying to hijack the thread. Post a blog with the polling data that you're enamored with, and make sure you include lots and lots of exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Next, you could discuss your total flipflop about reliable polls. It's been Survey USA all the way until the results weren't to your liking. Now, Suffolk University is the new Survey USA for you.

Or ARG and Zogby... the two worst.

I find it amusing this CLinton troll thinks that posting polls which show Clinton failing to make any real gains in PA as amusing by failing to win in double digits (the baseline was her winning PA by 20%) is an example of moving the goalposts writ large.

(finger wag into the camera)

I DID TALK ABOUT THE RACE CARD...WITH THAT RADIO STATION...WHYY...

And then, after saying "Buh-bye!" he said: "I don't think I should take any shit from anybody on that, do you?"

Yes, I do.

Bill makes me cry.

He makes me laff.

President Clinton is the main story on MSNBC.

The truth is Obama and his media played the race card for his radical spiritual adviser wrightgate.

Good for President Clinton on taking the high road to focus on today's vote.

Too bad for Hillary that Bill is the main story. It's not going to help her campaign.

And the comment about Obama? As weird as usual.

Seriously, if you're a Hillary supporter, Bill being the top story on any day is not good.

The drip drip drip you hear is superdelegates thinking "Do I really want to hear about Bill for the next four years???" followed by "Hmmm. Look! I've got Barack on speed dial!"

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Well, she'd probably rather have them talk about Bill than her plans for nuclear war in the Middle East.

Clearly, he's uncontrollable - not that I ever thought he was. The man will be a rogue missile in her administration. That she (and even more, Chelsea) refuses to see this would be sad if it weren't so frightening.

Obama's media? What, did Rupert Murdoch sell out to Obama and not let me know?

If Bill Clinton went to Burger King, he'd tell you he went to McDonalds and not even realize it...

Exactly. Letting what he said just LAY there would be better than contradicting himself and lying and coming off all assholish.

Please stop Bill, before I have to eat EVERY nice word ever uttered about you.
Now really, if Bill had NEVER SAID A WORD this campaign season, where would HRC's candidacy be right now? Surely no worse than it is already.

Just wave Bill. Just wave. Cut his mike!

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All this is good for the Clintons. We have you right where we want you. We have you just in our sights. Just you wait and see. Muhahahahahahahahahaha. Be right back gotta go count my money.

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Bill has lost his goddamn mind!

Or perhaps more likely, the whole family has a perverse pathological addiction to lying:

http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/04/bills-desperation-turns-to-more-lies.html

LOL

Clinton gets caught bold-faced lying and tries to play the "let's talk about the real issues" line which from him is the very definition of hypocrisy since the man had no problem bringing up every distraction in the book, including whining about the mean mean OBama camp allegedly "playing the race card" and then lying about saying it, then in the next breath saying it again, just in the past 48 hours.

BTW, how's Hillary and her Col. Kong imitation riding the bomb down onto Teheran (ala Dr. Strangelove) policy working for us all?

"Rural Democrats don't like the idea of whole cities being incinerated...? Screw 'em" - Hillary "LeMay" Clinton

Shit, this was supposed to be in response to "GotNoLife" upthread.

Some one needs to hand Bill a post-it before every interview with the words: "YouTube/Internet/24 Hour News Cycle" on it.

It's not 1992 anymore.

The Clintons' statements do make more sense when you realize they assume everything they say is immediately forgotten by voters and the media by the time the next speech or interview rolls around. They'd be the favorite candidate of the guy from "Memento."

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I agree with Grover. To watch this happen to a brilliant statesman is sad. Maybe Bill Clinton is suffering the effects of his heart bypass surgery? Docs call it "pump head." Researchers have speculated that the effects on mental capacity result from "showering of the brain with tiny particles (microemboli) related to the use of the bypass pump."

"I. Did. Not. Have. Sexual. Relations. With. That. Woman."

Bill has a history of having a fairly casual relationship with the truth, but this is just NUTS.

It was Monica that got "showered with tiny particles..." not Bill.

Sorry, you put it on a tee, so I took a whack at it.

Damn good thing I'm not reading this in a library!

Great.

H-Bomb Hillary is threating to nuke a country that doesn't have nukes yet if they use their hypothetical nukes against a country that does have them and would obliterate them before we could even launch and Bill is apparently losing his mind before our pitying eyes.

Yeah, we totally need this team back in the White House again.

The disrespect of a great leader and President of your party proves you are trolls and should not be posting on a Dem blog.

Wait for the lizards to open their doors and post at the lgf trolls.

You are not Dems and they agree with your hate over there.

The only disrespect I see is Bill's for the American people.

Well, Goatlife, you're right about one thing: I'm not a Democrat. I guess that makes Bill Clinton fair game.

Don't take the bait, fellow TPM posters.

What else am I supposed to do? Work?!

Like painful rectal itch, it can't be ignored forever.

Oh. The visual.

And ya know...it doesn't help that your avatar is a bird. It makes one think.

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No, you got that wrong. I can't speak to everyone's party affiliation. What I can tell you is that we're not members of the Clinton party. Even those of us that long supported them, especially Bill, do not automatically fall in line, standing silent while the Clintons spin lies and obfuscate the truth. We believe our country deserves leaders who are honest, most especially after 8 years of Bush, Cheney & Co.

What truly saddens is that for two years I've struggled with supporting Hillary. I wasn't able to shake this troubling sense that what's good for the Clintons would always trump the good of the country. Unfortunately, she's yet to give me a reason to believe otherwise.

...your party?

Or ARG and Zogby... the two worst.

I find it amusing this CLinton troll thinks that posting polls which show Clinton failing to make any real gains in PA as amusing by failing to win in double digits (the baseline was her winning PA by 20%) is an example of moving the goalposts writ large.

Well! What happened to your idol anyway? Getting crushed in a humongous electoral state he outspent her 4:1 is a victory only if it's by 20%? You guys are fucking HILARIOUS. I never heard her say once she had to win by any percentage, certainly not 20% - but the artificial baseline set by Lord Kos isn't moving the goalposts? I wish it were possible for you to see how utterly clueless this post looks in the real world.

Of course she wouldn't say she had to win by 20% since she knows she won't. But the fact that remains that 9-15 pt victory will net her less than 20 delegates, which is simply not enough.

Of course she wouldn't say she had to win by 20% since she knows she won't. But the fact that remains that 9-15 pt victory will net her less than 20 delegates, which is simply not enough.

This would only matter if we elected our nominee based soley on "being ahead" in delegates. To which, we've never done in our entire electoral history of this country. I know you won't hear that one Olbermann, here, or anywhere else apparently, but true. Because if it were true, we wouldn't even be talking about it right now, would we?

So you're still counting on the superdelegates to push Hillary to the nomination?

Despite Obama having a net gain of ~65 (compared to ~3 for Clinton) since Super Tuesday. Despite the SDs breaking for Obama by nearly a 70% clip since Super Tuesday. Good luck.

This would only matter if we elected our nominee based soley on "being ahead" in delegates.

Ahhhh, that is how the Democratic Party selects its nominee. That is why we have delegates, the one who gets the most of them is our nominee. Like Texas, it seems that Camp Clinton doesn't understand the rules and the concepts involved in the nominating process and thinks it is all just a matter of spin, not actually.. you know.. winning more delegates.

To be fair, I think his point was that “being ahead” doesn’t necessarily equal having the required 2025.

While true, it ignores the fact that most projections have Obama finishing the primary season being within 100 of 2025. So, he’d need less than 100 SDs to push him over 2025. And if they continue to flock to him at anything close to the current pace, that margin won’t be a problem.

Ahhhh, that is how the Democratic Party selects its nominee. That is why we have delegates, the one who gets the most of them is our nominee.

A candidate needs a simply majority of the 4047 delegate votes, which equals 2024. Bzzzzt. Neither can get there it would appear.

That's not true. One will certainly get there. As I pointed out, most projections have Obama finishing up the primary season less than 100 delegates from 2024. The supers will do the rest.

Sorry, but the baseline polling showed her less than 3 weeks ago winning PA by 20% and over.

After PA she will have netted less than 20 delegates, and nowhere near enough to put her on a path to overcoming even the artificial metric of the popular vote.

Given that Gov. Ed "I Heart Farrakhan" Rendell's political machine should have handed PA to her by over 20%, anything less than a 10-15% win by Clinton does nothing to change the dynamic of the race. A race which will end with Obama as the Democratic nominee, not let's nuke Iran Hillary "LeMay" Clinton.

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There is another, more serious, explanation, which I'd feel bad about if it turns out to be true. Bill Clinton could be showing the symptoms of early onset Alzheimer's, and he could really have no clue that he had said the things he has said. Although he showed the same symptoms back in the 90s when he couldn't remember his protracted affair with his intern, which takes us back to the original diagnosis. For his sake I hope he is just a pathological liar because seeing him make an ass of himself in such a public way due to the effects of a serious disease would be pretty sad. I would really feel bad for him. Although he could perhaps make some good out of it by becoming a spokesperson for Alzheimer's awareness, kind of like Bob Dole was for erectile dysfunction. Either way, they should probably take him out of the field.

It's pretty sad regardless of the explanation.