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Another Poll Shows Close Race In Indiana
A poll of Indiana by the Midwestern firm Selzer & Co. has the Indiana primary looking close, with Barack Obama posting a very slight lead within the margin of error: Obama 41%, Clinton 38%.
This shows a statistical dead heath like the Research 2000 poll that also came out tonight, but with a much higher undecided number. In other words, it looks like Indiana is going to be a very tight race.
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I'm a democrat.
I want to talk about John McCain.
I want to know what his disability is, so that he is entitled to 58,000.00 a year tax free in disability payments.
If you tell me his disability,
I will stop asking.
Thankyou
April 25, 2008 1:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
At this point, I would say McCain's biggest disability is that he's a Republican who has embraced Bush policies.
April 25, 2008 1:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
How many Republicans will be voting in the Indiana primary? How many "new democrats" - that is Republicans who crossed over to vote for Obama, and then will cross back to vote for McCain in the GE - are there?
April 25, 2008 6:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
No one knows. How many Hillary votes are from Rush listeners who will vote for McCain in November? No one knows that either.
April 25, 2008 8:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
My understanding is he was seriously injured while a POW and for example cannot lift his arms above his head.
April 25, 2008 1:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's a misprint -- distasteful, not disabled.
Here he is with his hands in all sorts of nasty places:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/25/53064309_fc1bf87031.jpg
http://blog.reidreport.com/uploaded_images/mccain_bush-hug-713122.jpg
http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/mccain_bush_hug_300.jpg
April 25, 2008 3:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain was badly injured when he bailed out of his plane when it was shot down over North Vietnam.
The $58k he receives is a combination of retirement pay as a Navy captain, which is taxable and disability pay which is not.
I receive a similar pension, i.e., retirement pay combined with combat related disability pay from my service in Vietnam.
Although I don't like McCain's politics, and would never vote for him, he deserves every penny he gets for his service to our country.
April 25, 2008 2:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
He should give his disability check to a disabled vet from Iraq who can never work again because his limbs have been blown off. Or perhaps some of the Katrina victims who he has just found a new interest in. He and HIS WIFE have plenty; more than plenty.
April 25, 2008 6:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good stuff... Obama's had to dig out from big polling deficits in the run-up to TX, OH and PA. Let's see how big a victory margin he can work up for IN.
April 25, 2008 1:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is that Peter Gabriel?
April 25, 2008 8:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yep.
April 25, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Among Hoosiers who said they would vote in the general election — a statewide sample of voters with a margin of error of plus or minus 4.4 percentage points — Obama beat McCain 49 percent to 41 percent. Clinton broke even with McCain, with both backed by 46 percent of those polled."
Really, After reading that line, you can't take this poll seriously... No one in clear mind is going to think any of the democratic candidates is leading this race with republican. It ain't happening.
April 25, 2008 1:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. This poll is bogus.
April 25, 2008 8:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
I went to the internet and found two photos of him lifting his arms above his head.
So his disability must be something else.
Does anyone know what it is.
Thanks for your help.
April 25, 2008 1:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's disabilty
He sometimes makes a boomboom in the bed?
April 25, 2008 1:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
SurveyUSA shows Barack Obama winning North Carolina some where between 8% to 10% more votes than hillary clinton....far back as Feb.
02:12:08
Obama: 50%
Clinton: 40%
Undecided: 4%
03:11:08
Obama: 49%
Clinton: 41%
Undecided: 4%
04:08:08
Obama: 49%
Clinton: 39%
Undecided: 5%
04:22:08
Obama: 50%
Clinton: 41%
Undecided: 5%
Undeciders have range between 4% to 5%.....
If SuveryUSA Data is correct.... it is possible that Hillary Clinton could put a dent into Obama's total of votes, also possible that she could pull off a single digit win.....Sure can't wait to see what the next polling data will say, once the NCGOP's anti-obama ad begins to air in north carolina.
April 25, 2008 2:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's the math, stupid.
Right now, Obama needs 41% of the remaining delegates (pledged and super) to get the 2025 needed to secure the nomination. Hillary needs 61%.
(Note: The percentages don't add up to 100% because Edwards retains 18 delegates).
So any time Hillary doesn't win 60-40, it's a loss for her.
Think about that. What are the chances that Hillary will win the rest of the remaining contests by a 60-40 margin, AND get 61% of the remaining uncommitted superdelegates?
Sure, she can go on to compete in the remaining contests, but it won't change the final outcome. She is not going to win the nomination. She's in Huckabee territory now.
I don't expect that Hillary fans will stop supporting her. But there comes a time (like back when I was supporting Chris Dodd) when you have to realize that it's over. And it is over.
April 25, 2008 2:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
The NCGOP thanks you for your support.
April 25, 2008 4:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unlikely. I don't recall any race where Hillary closed a deficit in the last couple of weeks.
April 25, 2008 8:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama cannot lose Indiana. It is a must-win state for him to silence some of the questions surrounding his "inability" to win white blue color voters.
Then only, he would be on the path to eliminating Clinton dynasty successfully.
The challenge for us today is to purge Democratic Party of the Clinton dynasty. A democratic society must be free from fear mongers. We cannot have another 4 years with a fear monger who would repeat the same Bush tactic of raising alert level to Orange and Red(Bin Laden ad is symptomatic of what to expect from the Clinton). We cannot have another President who would never speak truth to American people and whose political premise is to "obliterate Iran," support tyrants like Musharraf, and use diplomacy only on the condition of submission by threat of physical power.
Here is my forecast: As long as the Clintons are around, Democratic Party will never win White House. The previous two losses could be logically attributed to their negative presence in the party. This is our best chance to eliminate the Clintons from the party, even at cost of giving McCain a win because McCain's win can still liberalize Republican Party to some extent and can yield some fruit in the long run, but Clinton's win would certainly make Democratic Party conservative, thus the entire nation. This is an ideological battle. We can wait for another 4 years but cannot let the Clinton's conservative monarchy prevail in the party and country. For all these reasons, we have to eliminate the Clintons once and for all if we love liberalism.
April 25, 2008 2:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Blue color voters? There are Smurfs in Indiana?
April 25, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
S Green...why does Obama need to prove in a primary that he can win the white blue collar worker?
Did you know that Bill never won a majority of the votes in either of his general elections?
Did you know that Bill never carried the white vote in either of his general elections?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_1992
We are focused on this mythical white blue collar worker (whatever that means) because the Clintons WANT us to be focused on them (whoever they are).
If the media would ever stop accepting whatever Wolfson gives them as talking points....without question...like a bunch of bobblehead dolls...we might come to understand elections better.
And since when does Obama have to win Indiana? Up until the PA vote, it was conventional wisdom that Indiana would be a Hillary state, albeit closer than PA. Now suddenly it's a must win for Obama?
I want him to win too..but there are parts of the country that will be more reticent to vote for a new face, let alone a black new face. There are other parts of the country he will win in landslides.
What Obama MUST do right now is reenergize himself (he looks whipped) and stay on message.
We're almost there...vote hope, not fear.
April 25, 2008 3:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
My initial questions are:
1) How many old white women live in Indiana? Do they vote?
2) How many uneducated people live there?
3) What percentage of voters is younger than 45?
April 25, 2008 6:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Freetospeak :
There are fewer older white women in Indiana than in PA
There are fewer rural voters. Most people live in or near cities.
There are more college educated people in Indiana
Lots of younger voters and Obama has the advantage in northern Indiana because it's close to Chicago and many people commute there. It's also in the Chicago television market so people know him.
Also, Obama has never lost a state where's gained the lead. Watch for his numbers to come up.
April 25, 2008 7:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't understand how anyone can be undecided at this stage unless they just emerged from a coma, but haven't the undecideds tended to go for Hillary?
April 25, 2008 7:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
How can you begrudge a veteran his disability pension?! He was injured while serving this country. I suspect this is more than you have done.
Do you realize how pathetic yours and others questions of McCain's disability pension are?! This is at best a poor reflection upon your patriotism and at worse despicable. Luckily, I do not think you reflect the common views of most Obama supporters.
Matthew
http://www.TheIndependentView.com
April 25, 2008 7:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Matthew, could you not flog your website in your comments? It seems to be in poor form. Thanks.
April 25, 2008 8:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
The only reason he trolls here is to drive traffic to his website. You want to take away his only reason to post?
Actually, that's not such a bad idea...
April 25, 2008 9:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've tried mentioning the website thing...it seems to fall on deaf ears.
And, yes, asking about McCain's pension is ridiculous. The guy was a POW and injured pretty badly when his plane was shot down. He's an ass, but he has a legit claim...
April 25, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama needs an Indiana and North Carolina win. I know he could still win the nomination because of the math, but he will be a much stronger candidate if he can sweep these two states.
April 25, 2008 8:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Dead Heath" was three months ago. Get over it already.
April 25, 2008 8:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Man, hard to imagine Hoosiers voting. I spent a little bit of time in Bloomington, where "educated" Hoosiers live, and what a bunch of ignorant, xenophobic hicks they were. I can only imagine what the natives are like in French Lick. Hoosiers = rednecks, but without the Southern charm.
Meanwhile I am looking forward to a nice holiday next week in Riga.
April 25, 2008 8:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
You should run for office - you've got a knack for charming people!
April 25, 2008 8:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pity, they probably have the internet in Riga these days.
April 25, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
"I will not have political relations with that woman." -- blogger Jack Nolan.
/snark
April 25, 2008 8:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can't repeat it enough of say it too loud - North Carolina is DEFINITELY Obama country. I don't think I've seen any recent poll with a higher Clinton number than 41, and that's the approximate ceiling. I expect a margin of 15-25 points.
The NCGOP does not have an ace up its sleeve. It's widely known as incompetent, even by local conservatives. They are doing it because they like to "stir the turd." If anything, it will boomerang.
I go by Obama's Raleigh HQ everyday. Much activity and enthusiam - white and black, young and old, male and female. Our democratic primary electorate is highly educated and highly African American. Both gubernatorial candidates are strong Obama supporters. There is no pro-Clinton machine to bail her out.
I voted early and will proudly serve as an attorney volunteer (monitoring polls) on election day. I'm 34 years old, married with three kids, and have never done anything like this before (pretty strong introvert). But it's like a calling - I feel that I simply MUST do something, and that giving money isn't enough. I can't imagine that I'm alone.
April 25, 2008 8:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good for you, NC State Dem.
Don't forget change doesn't just happen. Stick with the party after the primary. Volunteer to help in the general. Find out where your local candidates stand. Support your local Democrats. Talk to your friends. Host candidate events. Run for your local Democratic committee. Demand change. Obama can't change America all by himself.
April 25, 2008 8:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Barack Obama posting a very slight lead within the margin of error: Obama 41%, Clinton 38%.vThis shows a statistical dead heath"
That's high quality reporting, love it, thank you.
April 25, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink