Really, seriously, what does any of this "match-up" polling prove at this point? The identification of a true Democratic nominee will change the dynamics of the GE race to such an extent that these match-up polls will be instantly obsolete.

I find it extremely difficult to believe that any serious supporters of HRC over BHO (and vice versa) would vote McCain were the other nominated.

Why?

It simply would not be in their self-interest.

Of course, then again, "What's wrong with Kansas?"

You're kidding me, right? This means exactly what?

You do realize that every time anybody anywhere invokes one these asinine micro-categories, Mark Penn gets a nickel? It's true.

Yes, but what about NASCAR dads and soccer moms?

Chuck Todd on why these matchups are silly, and why as soon as we get a nominee, that Dem will get a big bounce against McCain:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24016480

As always...the sooner this primary wraps up, the better for the Dems. Right now, Hillary prolonging things so as to keep raising money is not helping anyone but herself. Yes, it will take time and healing for Clinton folk to recover from this brutal experience. But I would hope that we can begin that healing and reconcilation process as soon as possible, with Obama as our nominee.

On a side note, anyone else out there drink both Wine and Beer?

(actually, I'll drink almost any alcoholic beverage save Jagermeister.

Very Interesting. Just as I thought:

The Dumb and Dumber voters are breaking for The Warmonger and the Tuzla Chick Lit Heroine.

I am part of the Smirnoff Ice track.

Trollopsicle?

Masterful.

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So we've got the wine track, the beer track, the latte track, the soccer track, the Nascar track, the bluecollar track, the over-educated track, the black track, the Latino track, the white male track, the black male track, the women track, Reagan Democrat track, the Obamapublicans...the jagermeister, smirnoff, tequila, tangueray, and whiskey track (wine cooler drinkers shouldn't be allowed to vote, sorry), the college kids, the millenials....isn't this getting just a tad silly?

And this is solid analysis, how?

There are no benchmark numbers to cross-compare. Gallup gives numbers within the categories, but doesn't translate that into the national averages of each group.

These were the polling points:

For the sample of 1,440 registered voters with a high school education or less, the maximum margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points.

For the sample of 1,936 registered voters who have some college education, the maximum margin of sampling error is ±2 percentage points.

For the sample of 1,388 registered voters with a four-year college degree but no postgraduate education, the maximum margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points.

For the sample of 1,350 registered voters with some postgraduate education, the maximum margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points.

Does anyone really think this is indicative of the national average between groups? Who knows, Gallup doesn't mention it. Neither does TPM. However, here's a link showing the breakdown of voters with varying degrees in 2004.

The sample had us think that 22% of Americans hold post-graduate degrees. However, based on the US Census Bureau, the average in the US is only 9.4%.

In addition, we're talking General Election numbers, right? The percentages of each category will also be different between states. For example, according to StateMaster , MN, WY, MT, NE, & UT have significantly higher high school graduates and above than CA, RI, NC, AR, and TX. That would significantly screw the actual numbers.

Iraqi Prime Minister Disagrees With Petraeus: US Forces Can Start Withdrawing.

Maybe somebody should ask McCain why he wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years when their leader said we can start wihdrwing?

Actual Clinton supporter comment from HuffPo:

"I can tell you, as a Hillary suppoter, I have NO problem with her Colombian $$$$$$$. I don't care if that stupid rumor is true that they killed a lot of peoplebeginning with Foster. I don't care who they sleep with, who does their hair, or how priviledged they are now. She can do all the things this guy says she can. Restoring our good rep, our economy and narrowing the gap. She can do it, because she has the experience to do it. That's simply all I care about. I don't want to be united with anybody. I don't give a rat's ass about racism. I don't want unspecified change, just for the sake of change. All I want is the country/world the Clintons left us with in 2001."

Unfortunately, I still need to be convinced that the broad base of support for Sen. Clinton does not consist of people who think along these lines.

Bill will NOT be back in the White House. Neither he, nor his wife have any idea of what to do with a bad economy.

I'm so saddened by this...

I hear that McCain's going to be campaigning in Appalachia and in the inner cities. Smart. Really. People like being asked for their vote.

As for Hillary losing the college-educated vote - this is hard for me to understand in my head while I have a understanding of it in my gut. It has to do with McCain’s approachability and ordinariness, the smiling grandfatherly mien. But McCain is callous about people in bad economic situations. He is callous about troops remaining in Iraq for a 100 years and never a mention in his rhetoric about the multitudes of Iraqis dead or the ones fleeing their homeland because of this lie based debacle this President and his party perpetrated. Surely the educated voter will not overlook these huge flaws. At least I hope not. On the other end of that poll – the HS educated, I hope they will be open to Obama’s charm and candor and will recognize his commonness.

We Dems don't have a nominee yet. Our nominee has not gone up against McCain't in a debate yet. So until people see the two facing off on the same teevee screen, McCain looks good.

America in Iraq, In A Nutshell:

If things get worse in Iraq we can not withdraw until things get much better.

If things get much better, we can not withdraw because Iraq may slide back into chaos.

Ah!, don't you see what has happened, Lads, and Lassies?

The Chicken Hawk Neo Cons have constructed a perfect Catch22 for the USA in Iraq.

We can never leave. It is the McCain Doctrine.

How do can we deconstruct the Chicken Hawks Catch22 in Iraq.

Why of course, there is only one solution; since we can never leave, we might as well let it into the Union.

You can thank me later, after you have bought all your new flags with all those extra stars for the Sunni, Kurd and Shiite states.

Next problem please.

Yeah. I drink alone....

But these are just generic groups. We need more detail. For instance, who's ahead among the Wild Turkey crowd? Who's hot with the Mad Dog quaffers? We can safely assume the Southern Comfort crew are going for McCain but what about the Ripple drinkers? Got any metrics on them yet?

There's only 7 months until Election Day! Can't we get any better numbers than these for crying out loud?

And I guess I shouldn't say who I think will get the blunt, the phillie, the swishers vote.

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