how many "Wolfson says: . .. " stories do we need?

Good luck with that, Howard. Get back to me on Tuesday evening around two minutes after the polls close in MS.

Apparently Hillary got HER Commander-in-Chief cred during her husband's Administration. Let's take a little closer look:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-cooper/clinton-genocide-and-a-c_b_90436.html

The phone rang and rang and rang and rang and rang and rang and rang and rang.

800,000 died, not because of lack of experience, they died because of lack of will.

Judgement matters.

Would this be the media bias that Clinton suffers from?

Translation: Even though the republicans are cash poor, the clintons are giving them a ton of free advertising in the lead up to the GE. Soon to be president-elect mccain to the clintons, thank you very, very much. Maybe he'll give h. clinton a cabinet position in the spirit of bi-partisanship. Pathetic.

So they like their odds with Sinbad, Cheryl Crow tour and the speech in Beijing? (I thought speeches didn't count.) Interesting....

Now if Obama would actually hit them back on this a little harder...

This is good. This SHOULD be one of if not THE main issue.

Obama is:

* an unknown;

* untested;

* inexperienced;

* a gamble;

* naive; and

* a proven panderer.

THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!

Does Wolfson have a "red phone" straight to TPM Central? Is that why we're focused on this stupid crap and not, oh, say, on why Hillary told Canada "never mind" about NAFTA after (incorrectly) accusing Obama of doing the same thing?

And if Powers had to resign over calling Clinton a monster... where's Wolfson's resignation for calling Obama Ken Starr?

Oh wait... I forgot. That sort of logic only applies when it's Hillary that's the "victim."

I know O has too much class to say it, but ONE of his surrogates has to, repeating KOlberman's line:

"My husband was president for eight years, so that qualifies me to do it too."

If she is claiming that eight years as her CnC cred, then we have to look at exactly what she did.

- How many times did she answer that red phone?
- What did she do in times of crisis?
- Did she have a security clearance? I don't think so.
- What the hell did she actually do?

This is legitimate. If she did some great things that we weren't aware of, then fine. But the O campaign needs to open this up. YESTERDAY. And please include Hillarycare that was cooked up behind closed doors, and the secrecy helped defeat it.

And then there's that time on the board of Wal-Mart.

If she's claiming the experience, then take a microscope to her 35 years, every nanosecond of it. And as Debbie Harry once sang, Rip her to Shreds.

RaeK - I'll take my chances with an unknown who didn't capitulate and help lead us to a ridiculous war. He made a bold proclomation against it and has never turned back.

Please also explain how being first lady constitures experience.

As for pandering - well, let's be realists here shall we?? These are politicians we are talking about here.

Look, Obama is relatively inexperienced but Clinton's arguement that she has 35 years of it just doesn't hold water. If this is the measure, then shouldn't we just all vote for McCain??

** Breaking News **

Barack Obama is holding a townhall meeting in Wyoming.

He just reasserted why he is my presidential candidate of choice.

Audience (paraphrasing): What are you going to do about civil liberties.

Obama (again paraphrasing): I will have my AG come into my office and he or she and I will review each and every single Executive Order that George Bush issued and we will change the law. There will be a Court overseeing every wiretap we issue.

Admittedly, Hillary may have a similar point of view.. I'm just damn happy that he's addressed it.

CNN.COM is source.

A photo op with flags and generals does not make Senator Clinton a commander in chief and more than a flight suit made Bush's Mission Accomplished a reality.

The truth is the person who is only talk is Hillary. She is throwing out all this garbage because she was unable to win in the merits against the newcomer she misjudged. Again her judgment failed her. Going this negative will also backfire. Again her judgement has failed her.

I swear to god that if she has a Lamont-like primary challenger when she comes up for reelection in the Senate (which she should, she is Lieberman), I'm going to devote myself to making sure she loses.

Continually smack her in the head with her Iraq vote.... Hillary's "I have bigger balls" strategy is comical considering....

Good grief, does the Clinton campaign just have conference calls 14 hours a day?

Give me a break.

I'm still not sure how exactly Hillary Clinton is MORE qualified than Barack Obama.

Giving a speech at a woman's conference in china is harldy CIC experience.

Wolfson is overconfident. The Clinton campaign has seized on so many messages that they believed to work only to fail and move on to another attack.

That said, Obama does need a stronger response to the attack than we've seen so far, both against Hillary and McCain. The charge of fearmongering isn't sufficient. The Iraq war judgment argument is decent, but it's a little stale.

I don't think that attacking Clinton is the answer. He's going to have to go up against McCain, so even if he's able to cut Clinton down, he's going to get the same shit from the Republicans.

Gregger's wolfsonian mancrush is EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!

OMG! Genius!

Obama is too classy to say it?? This is a problem, honestly. I don't think it's going negative to ask these questions. Look, I love the guy. I'm in deeper than you can even imagine, But I'm not particarly happy with this lack of fighting back. Fighting can be clean and he doesn't have to go in to the gutter but he does need to throw some punches.

Could it be that Hillary has decided to kiss off Wyoming?

So, instead of spending half the day in a plane and then hitting the ground running to talk to real voters in WY, like Barack, Hillary and her staff hold back-to-back-to-back phone conferences from their Arlington office?

'Cuz they got no game. They only got trash talk.

So, thanks for the tip to the CNN town meeting, Jaysin-Hussein 1414 at 4:57

Hillary's "threshold" comment regarding her and McCain and the "red phone" will come back to bite her... Just like Bill's hardball tactics came back to bite the campaign after Nevada... Linking herself with John "I'll stay in Iraq for 100 years" McCain & fearmongering like Bush/Cheney will have a short shelf life...

correction: CNN home page claims to have live video of a Hillary town hall somewhere, but I don't have the Turner/CNN plugin.

It is really over the top to suggest that a candidate is not fit to be commander in chief. I can't imagine that a campaign would stoop to such scurrilous allegations. I think we should call a time out right now. Lets all sit down together, take a deep breath, share our feelings about how we got to this point and agree that tomorrow is a new day and we won't ever ever be hurtful like this again.

Si se puede

We can bitch at Clinton all we want, but the truth is the Obama campaign does seem way off its game. For one, they need to muzzle all surrogates who aren't experienced at this sort of thing. What is Power talking to a Scottish paper for in the first place? Did Axelrod approve it? I get the feeling the campaign is waiting for Wyoming and Miss to bail them out and change the narrative back to friendlier ground. But if the media definitively decides the campaign isn't ready for prime time, there will be no let up. This is not just a couple bad days. For a candidate as new to the scene as Obama, it is potentially fatal, regardless of the math. He needs to do something dramatic to get his message back on track. Hillary needs to be convinced that this path either won't work anymore or will boomerang on her. With each screw up, it gets harder to achieve. I truly believe she will cripple him if she can.

Dude, you are obsessed with Wolfson, and every litle thing he says. Take a break from the computer. Step outside. See the bigger picture.

I cannot find any evidence of any video for either candidate in WY, but Barack does have this rally in Laramie starting around 9 PM east coast time tonight:

Stand for Change Rally with Barack Obama

Arena Auditorium
University of Wyoming
1000 E. University Ave.
Laramie, WY 82071

Friday, March 7th, 2008
Doors Open: 5:00 p.m. MT [7 PM ET]
Program Begins: 7:15 p.m. MT [9:15 PM ET]

Yeah, yeah. Bill & Hillary had the rookie on the ropes after Nevada..... Obama just needs to take his attention away from McCain and focus for awhile on the pests who won't go away, TheClintons..

I came into this election year supporting John Edwards, but with no strong negative issues with any of the Democratic candidates. I am sad to say that I will not, and can not vote for Hillary Clinton. If we are going to have a Republican style, mud slinging, I will resort to anything to get elected President, then it might as well be a Republican. There is no sense in electing a Democrat who acts and smells like a Republican. Much has been said that Obama has not gotten into the gutter with Hillary, but I'm rather happy that he has not stooped to her level. The greatest president in the history of the Republic, Lincoln, had less experience than Obama, and never stooped to gutter politics. Rather than comparing Obama to the base standards of today that have put us in the terrible state we are currently in, perhaps we should look at, and emulate the standards of Lincoln. If not, this divided house will surely not stand.

The Clinton's have a 15 state strategy... While Obama was rattling off 10 in a row, Hillary was campaigning in TX and OH... I feel much better with a 50 state strategy in Novemember..

Good thing the Clinton campaign can count on HRC Election Central to never, ever challenge her on her Commander-in-Chief credentials. No siree. Just transcribe those conference calls and reprint those press releases.

Greg and other TPM staff, do you have a hard-on for Wolfson? You must because you post EVERYTHING that comes out of that lying sack of shit's mouth.

As an Obama supporter I have one thing to say, "Thank you Hillary Clinton"

I might dislike what has happened over the past week, but Obama does need this to happen. He needs to get hammered and tested. He needs to survive a serious, relentless assault. And he needs as many negative narratives to be put out about him as possible. We need this to happen first in March so it won't happen first in September.

Right now, we have a candidate that is winning in the official "by the rules" vote total, delegates, fund racing, and states won. He is heading into a 4 day period in which he can win two elections. 4 days ago he suffered his worst electorial night in a month and he ended up losing about .3% of a 10% lead in delegates. And he is going into a 5 week "dead" period in the election.

If he can't come back from this, then he isn't the man that we believe he is. And I really don't have a doubt that he is the man I believe he is. Come on? An inter-racial kid with a name like Barack can't stand the heat in the kitchen? Please.

Let's not allow the pundits and Hillary supporters to change the way we view the facts. And the facts are on Obama's side. Hillary has the perception that she is winning this press cycle, Obama has the reality that he is winning the election.

Plus, let's be honest with ourselves - there is no way that if Obama has a 100 point lead in pledged delegates that the superdelegates will overturn the will of the people. These are mainly elected officials. And they are going to have to ask themselves "How am I going to ever win a democratic primary when the under 40, college educated and African American vote is going to be looking for any excuse to vote for my opponent?" Hillary's team might not believe that red state or small state Democrats matter, but they are all that matter to the elected Democrats in those states.

We've got a winner, we're gonna keep beating Obama's brains in with it, and if we get our way, that ain't gonna change anytime soon.

Translation: We may have found the mother lode! King Radiance won't fight back, no matter how hard we hit him. We just need to make sure this doesn't force him to play the Oprah card too soon.

"What is going on in WY and MS is just not being reported on TPM's Air Wolfson's blog."

Yeah, wtf? I am getting tired of Wolfson, Wolfson, Woflson.

All Greg does is take dictation in the dozen daily Clinton conference calls.

Hillary's behavior is unpresidential, to put it mildly. She is currently conflated with the Tasmanian Devil in my mind.

The question is already starting to creep up - what exactly makes Hillary ready to be commander in chief? When you keep asking a question about somebody else, eventually folks start asking it about you. McCain is already starting to ask it about Hillary.

Hillary is now going to have to prove that being an observer has prepared her to be a doer. And my guess is that she has already peaked on the positives of folks perceiving her as being ready to be "commader-in-chief." Bill can come to her rescue and start defending her newly unveiled role as the face of the Clinton foreign policy, but he is only going to be able to make that argument persuasively if he becomes her highest visibility advocate again. I'm all for Bill coming front and center again. He's gotten cranky in his old age.

Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2006 (I'm only listing 5 in interest of space):

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released its 2006 list of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians.”

1. Jack Abramoff, Former Lobbyist – Abramoff is at the center of a massive public corruption investigation by the Department of Justice that, in the end, could involve as many as a dozen members of Congress. Abramoff pleaded guilty to conspiracy, fraud and a host of other charges on January 3, 2006, and was sent to prison in November to serve a five-year, 10-month sentence for defrauding banks of $23 million in Florida in 2000.

2. Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) – In January 2006, Hillary Clinton’s fundraising operation was fined $35,000 by the Federal Election Commission for failing to accurately report more than $700,000 in contributions to Clinton’s Senate 2000 campaign. New information also surfaced in 2006 raising more questions about Hillary and her brother Anthony Rodham’s connection to the Clinton Pardongate scandal, where presidential pardons were allegedly traded in exchange for cash and other favors.

3. Former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham (R-CA) – In November 2005, Cunningham pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud, wire fraud, and tax evasion. He was sentenced to 8 years, four months in prison and ordered to pay $1.8 million in restitution in March 2006.

4. Former Rep. Tom Delay (R-TX) – Tom DeLay, who was forced to step down from his position as House Majority Leader and then resign from Congress, decided in 2006 not to run for re-election. Congressman DeLay has been embroiled in a series of scandals from bribery to influence peddling, and was indicted twice by grand juries in Texas.

5. Former Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) – Foley left the House in disgrace after news broke that he had been sending predatory homosexual emails to a House page. A recent House Ethics Committee report indicated that Republican leaders knew about Foley’s dangerous behavior, but failed to take action. Democrats, meanwhile, shopped the story to the press to influence the elections. Outrageously, the Committee recommended no punishment for those involved.

History will repeat itself. Remember Hubert Humphrey, likely not. Well in 1968 when there was a cold war, a Vietnam War started by JFK in between his affairs, lazy Sen. Gene McCarthy, and the great RFK. While the "nice" Major Daily of Chicago was cracking heads open of those who marched against the war and were subject to a DRAFT, HHH won the DEM nomination in Chicago but lost the presidency.
Just as 1968, John McCain will likely win. Adults vote! There are real elections in November where one only has to stand in line and vote and NO CAUCUSES! Whites over 45 and Hispanics over 35 will vote McCain. Obama is an empty suit who has been given a free ride by socialist MSNBC, HuffPost, and the liberal media. McCain is far better qualified than Obama and will re-write the map, Dems can forget Florida, PA, Ohio... maybe Utah, SC, Georgia, OK, KS, etc. will change and vote DEM for Obama, but don't count on it.

Ha! Obama supported wrong candidate in Philly. Some moslem guy I guess judging by his name. Probably a member of Farakhan's church... or maybe just a member of Obama's church.

I want to know- as has been posted- What the hell makes Hillary so prepared to be C-in-C?

Sleeping with Bill?

Come on, this is such crap. I would just love for a real, bonafide, miserable, brand new Clinton scandal right now.

Earlier I had to check something out in an old Quicken file from 2005. I discovered a donation to Friends of Hillary for her 2006 Senate Race.

I want my money back.

I don't want her as my nominee.

I don't want her as my President.

I don't want her as my Senator anymore.

I hate to say it... but it turns out that the right wing was right about Billary. (Not that the right wing is any better.)

Clinton may be more qualified to be commander in chief...I'd like to really know.

So how about if Wolfson releases all those WH documents that would show what a bang up job she did during the first Clinton admin.

I think we should be fully informed Howard? Greg, you want to ask him or anyone else in the Clinton camp?

Where are all the documents and why can't the public look at them?

Disclaimer: First time poster, big Obama supporter, increasingly disgusted by the Clinton campaign.

Please repeat this over and over:

"Hillary apparently crossed the commander in chief threshold in a plane with Chelsea, Sheryl Crow, and Sinbad."

Say "Sinbad" alot. This is the kind of dumb meme that the media will start to pick up on if it gets passed around enough, and since we're apparently dealing with the dumbest, most basic strategies possible, let's start using idiocy to our advantage. You can never go wrong with a Sinbad joke. Ever.

I think it's telling that Hillary constantly positions herself as enemy #1 to the Republicans and their ideals when it suits her immediate political needs, yet sides with them and votes with them when the winds blow her boat another (read: politically expedient) direction.

From her vote to grant Bushco war powers in Iraq, to her hawkish statements in the buildup and carrying out of the war, to her voting to label the Iranian national guard as "terrorists," to her votes on the Patriot act, to her cozying up to Lieberman, she has several years of on-the-record "experience" that details just exactly how she would lead this nation as president.

And right now, it ain't a whole lot different than McCain/Bush.

Any reporter worth their salt could do a little research and write a "she says this now, but this is what she said/did then." Is this really so difficult to ask of American journalists? Is Keith Olbermann really the last, best hope for solid reporting these days?

There's also something to be said for the strategy of allowing herself to bury her own fortunes out of her desperate and despicable actions over the last 2 weeks.

It's a wonder Wolfson is capable of speech considering the oil constantly leaking from every pore in his body.

But she's only a half-Democrat, because on foreign policy she talks like a moderate Republican.

Of course, if we could get Obama as Co-President, then we'd have 1.5 Democrats and .5 of a Republican in the White House, which might just be the perfect ratio.

An interesting little summary by Hench - which begins with the CIC question....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-hench/10-questions-for-hillary-_b_90468.html

1. When did Sen. Clinton cross the Commander-in-Chief threshold?

2. Was it before or after October 11, 2002 when she flunked the biggest foreign policy test of her career and voted to authorize the war in Iraq?

3. How can a candidate claim to be ready on Day One when on Day 646 of her senate career she voted for a war without reading the 90-page National Intelligence Estimate that so convinced senate colleague Bob Graham the war was a mistake?

4. Are you okay with the Clinton campaign darkening Sen. Obama's complexion in its ads and would you be okay with it if that's what it took to win the nomination?

5. Do you think Sen. Clinton's failure to plan for a primary campaign beyond Feb. 5 -- best exemplified by the Iowa insult of Mississippi that she figured would never come back to haunt her -- demonstrates the foresight you want in a president?

6. Do you think Sen. Clinton's top-down, consultant-heavy campaign spending -- that necessitated her $5 million loan to the campaign -- is an indication that she'd be a good steward of the economy?

7. Are you okay with a Democratic candidate suggesting that the Republican nominee would make a better Commander in Chief than her Democratic rival?

8. Do you agree with Howard Wolfson's charge that asking a presidential candidate to release her tax returns is tantamount to Ken Starr's $40M fishing expedition?

9. Do you agree with Mark Penn's suggestion that some states are significant and some states are insignificant?

10. Are you looking forward to another I-was-for-the-war-before-I-was-against-it general election campaign?

Hillary has been running around endorsing John McCain. He has said that he is going to have the same foreign and domestic policies as George W. Bush. Yet Hillary has endorsed him, over Senator Obama. That makes Hillary just another traitor to the party. She is just the same as Joe Lieberman, and should be given the same treatment. She should be driven out of the party. She is not a loyal Democrat, any more than Joe Lieberman was.