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Washington Post Looks At Hillary's Schedules And Foreign-Policy Claims

The Washington Post reports that Hillary Clinton's newly released first-lady schedules show Hillary's experience in foreign policy consisting of a mix of courtesy calls with foreign heads of state, combined with visits to important local areas and meetings with activists. The bottom line: Her experience isn't quite what the campaign has made it out to be — but is certainly a lot more than nothing, as many detractors have claimed.

"She wasn't representing the United States as secretary of state, chairman of the Joint Chiefs or U.S. trade representative," said an anonymous former State Department official. "But she was representing the United States, and she did have specific assignments."

"They made a mistake to exaggerate it," the official said, "and I think it's a mistake to under-appreciate it."


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IOW Senator Clinton was "all hat and no cattle." No worries. We thank her for her service.

Take a look at the piece I submitted, Driving the Snakes out of Ireland" or the original at Savage Politics, with an endorsement from Mo Mowlam on Hillary's assistance with the Northern Ireland peace process.

I'm sure the Washginton Post never errs or runs flippant stories about cleavage without doing a good job. And I'm sure Karen DeYoung never does a poor job of expressing the 2nd side of a story, or Peter Baker take an unfair hit or two at candidates he doesn't like.
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Brad DeLong
Why Oh Why Can't We Have a Better Press Corps? (Yet Another Washington Post Edition)

Matthew Yglesias bangs his head against the wall as he contemplates the lack of professionalism shown by the Post's Executive and former Assistant Managing Editor: TAPPED: August 2004 Archives: HARD DETERMINISM AT THE POST. The Washington Post joins the list of media organizations taking a look back at their prewar coverage and concludes, as have the others, that they overplayed stories backing the administration line and underplayed more skeptical accounts. Then Karen DeYoung, a reporter and former Assistant Managing Editor, says something very odd: Bush, Vice President Cheney and other administration officials had no problem commanding prime real estate in the paper, even when their warnings were repetitive. "We are inevitably the mouthpiece for whatever administration is in power," DeYoung said. "If the president stands up and says something, we report what the president said." And if contrary arguments are put "in the eighth paragraph, where they're not on the front page, a lot of people don't read that far." That's a pretty accurate characterization of what goes on, but there's nothing "inevitabl[e]" about it -- the paper could do things differently. Indeed, since they've concluded that this is the procedure that led them to create a misleading public impression...

Posted by DeLong at 08:02 PM
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Daily Howler
BAKER KNOWS SNARK: The Washington Post’s Peter Baker knows snark. In today’s paper, the gentleman passively-aggressively ends a Rove rumination like this:

BAKER (8/15/07): So, would a Clinton victory next year be a repudiation of Karl Rove politics or the perpetuation of them?

As the late Merv Griffin would have said, “Ooooohh.” Is Clinton “perpetuating” Karl Rove’s politics? No thought could inflame the net-roots more. Peter Baker, a weak little fellow, really knows how to pour on the snark.

And how to pour on the slick! In what way is Clinton said to be “perpetuating” Rove’s politics? Baker cites two sources. The first is GOP hit-gal Nicolle Wallace, at the start of his report:

BAKER (8/15/07): As he packs his desk just 15 steps from the Oval Office, Karl Rove says he will not join any 2008 presidential campaign. That's just as well because none of the Republican candidates presumably could afford the association even if they wanted his strategic smarts. Besides, none of them is running the campaign quite the way he would. The candidate who seems to be adopting his style and methods the most so far? Hillary Rodham Clinton.

At least that's what Nicolle Wallace thinks. The former Bush White House communications director, who worked closely with Rove, said that Clinton "has almost operationalized the whole idea of turning your weakness into strength, message discipline that is almost pathological—she does not get off message for any reason—and never skipping an opportunity to exploit her opponent's weaknesses.

Thoughtfully using the word “pathological,” the vacantly-smiling GOP talker lists three things Clinton is supposedly doing. Two of them are about as controversial as brushing your teeth when you turn in at night. The third—“never skipping an opportunity to exploit her opponent's weaknesses”—just sits there in Baker’s report, supported by zero examples.

And Baker continues. Good God, what a flyweight! In a sane world, what an embarrassment:

BAKER (continuing directly): Clinton's campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle, seems to agree with that assessment, having effectively vowed to run her operation much as Rove did his two successful national campaigns. "She expresses admiration for the way George W. Bush's campaign team controlled its message, and, given her druthers, would run this race no differently," Michelle Cottle writes this month in New York magazine. " 'We are a very disciplined group, and I am very proud of it,' she says with a defiant edge.”

In Baker’s mind, Clinton’s campaign manager “seems to agree with Wallace’s assessment”—because she is quoted agreeing with one of the lady’s three points!

No, you can’t get dumber than that—or faker, or slicker, or more Bakeronian. Peter Baker is a weak little man—and God only knows about his “editor.” But go ahead! Just watch well-meaning people on the web take his well-crafted bait.
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THE FABULIST BAKER BOY: It’s been a good week for bad journalism. First, that ludicrous column by Professor Inkblot (more below). Then, today’s wonderfully comical “news report” by the Post’s sad Peter Baker.

And yes, this is a “news report.” It isn’t on the Post’s op-ed page; it doesn’t bear an “Analysis” tag. This is Baker’s attempt to “report” the fall-out for Hillary Clinton’s campaign of Eliot Spitzer’s recent troubles. The comedy starts in paragraph 3. In that paragraph, Baker reports what “some” have thought—what they “could not help but” think:

BAKER (3/12/08): [Spitzer’s] apparent involvement with a prostitution ring has not only distracted attention from [Clinton’s] efforts to take down the front-runner, Sen. Barack Obama. It has brought back unhelpful memories of her own husband’s dalliances in office. There on cable television again were pictures of Bill Clinton hugging Monica Lewinsky. And the image of Spitzer’s wife standing painfully by his side could not help but remind some of Hillary Clinton’s own stand-by-her-man moment.

The image of Spitzer’s wife “could not help but remind some” of Clinton’s earlier situation. And clearly, one of those “some” was Baker himself. As he continued his news report, he speculated about things which “remain unclear.” Then, he made the wonderfully comical statement we have highlighted:

BAKER (continuing directly): How this will play out remains unclear, of course. Spitzer has so far resisted entreaties to step down in the face of rather sordid allegations, much as Bill Clinton resisted calls for his resignation in 1998 after news of his trysts with the onetime White House intern. Spitzer’s reluctance to leave can only guarantee that the story will live on in the hungry vortex of cable television, talk radio and the Internet. It may be that most voters long ago discounted Bill Clinton’s infidelities when making their minds up about his wife’s qualifications for president. It may be that voters conclude that Spitzer’s indiscretions have nothing at all to do with whether Hillary Clinton can effectively serve as president. And it may be that Spitzer ultimately does resign, allowing the political dialogue to move on.

Really? It may be that voters conclude that? Why on earth would voters conclude that Eliot Spitzer’s indiscretions bore on the question of Clinton’s effectiveness? The analysts enjoyed a good solid laugh at Baker’s silly, Starr-era clowning. And then, bonanza! The fabulous fabulist went where these scribes often do:

BAKER (continuing directly): Yet this certainly is not the way Clinton's strategists would have mapped out this week on the campaign trail. They want voters to be thinking about that 3 a.m. phone call in terms of who is ready to handle a crisis in the White House, not in terms of where an unfaithful husband might be catting around town. And, sure enough, the late-night comedians wasted little time linking the Spitzer case to the Clintons...

Of course! The late-night comedians have been doing it! We’ve told you this for years and years: Silly, fabulist boys like Baker always blame “the late-night comedians” for the very same things they are doing! Soon, the silly sleuth was trying to imagine things which might be said. And good lord! Just look at his description of Spitzer!

BAKER: Hillary Clinton was asked about the case late Monday and, predictably enough, tried to brush it off without comment. "I obviously send my best wishes to the governor and his family," she told reporters. Still, it is hard to imagine that will be the last time she is asked about it. She could hardly want that to be on camera, once again being asked to account for yet another man in her life who couldn’t live up to his marriage vows. And what will Bill Clinton say when he is inevitably asked to comment?

Good God! According to this Starr-era sex snoop, Spitzer is “yet another man in her life who couldn’t live up to his marriage vows!” Meanwhile, by normal standards, “news reporters” wait until a public figure says something; then report what the person said. Not Baker! In his idea of a “news report,” he asks himself what Bill Clinton might say, when he’s inevitably asked. (Answer: As Baker understands, Clinton will say this: No comment. And he might say, this is sad. )

But then, Baker’s a cosmically silly lad; he’s been presenting this nonsense for years. As we said, it’s been a very good week for bad journos. In this case, we at least were allowed to enjoy a series of horse-laughs.

Discourse on method: Here we go again! We’ve transcribed all these passages from today’s hard-copy Post. Much of this material does not appear in the on-line version of Baker’s “report.”

Hey, like any pol, Hillary has a right to toot her own horn, even exaggerate a bit. But her biggest over the line tactic was to endorse the enemy, the Republican candidate, over her own fellow Democrat. That was huge and unforgivable. And anyone would be stupid not to think that that breach of party loyalty is not going to weigh in the minds of the superdelegates.

So much for Ready on Day 1.

On another note, Greg/Eric were looking for reports of Clinton advisers pushing the Wright story. Apparently Chris Bowers (over at Open Left) has something to share:

http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4676

"They made a mistake to exaggerate it," the official said, "and I think it's a mistake to under-appreciate it."

I think that line pretty much sums it up. Trying to pass yourself off as more experienced than all of the other presidential candidates was rediculous, but claiming that this experience would not help her if she became president also doesn't make sense.

So to me the article made a case that Karen Hughes had better experience that Hillary if her claim is to be believed. Or Laura Bush:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqYbyUIGdJ4

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A significant part of Obama's experience is asking Tony Rezko if he was a crook and believing the answer.

Rezko has extensive ties with major corrupt players in Iraq.

So if it's not about experience but is about judgment....

Don't be bitter. Tony Rezko, like Rev. Wright has connections to the Clintons too. What about Hillary's judgement on Norman Hsu? How about Iraq? Her Joe Leiberman Iran vote? Her first lady exposed NAFTA flip flop?

Come on help me out. Just be happy that Hillary will have a good future back in Senate.

THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!

This article was first published on guardian.co.uk on Wednesday March 19 2008. It was last updated at 20:30 on March 19 2008.


On the day that dozens of US cruise missiles rained down on Serbia in an attempt to punish Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic for the country's onslaught against ethnic Albanian separatists in Kosovo, first lady Hillary Clinton was far from the White House war room: instead she was touring ancient Egyptian ruins, including King Tut's tomb and the temple of Hatshepsut. And on the day before the signing of the Good Friday agreement in Belfast she was at an event called "Hats on for Bella" in Washington.

In her bid for the Democratic presidential nomination, Hillary Clinton has touted her experience in the Clinton White House as preparation to lead the nation in a time of crisis. "Ready on day one" has been her slogan.

But an initial reading of some of the more than 11,000 pages of Clinton's schedules from her days as first lady, released today by the National Archives and the William Jefferson Clinton Presidential Library, shows that she was often far from the site of decision-making during some of the most pivotal events of Bill Clinton's presidency.

Clinton, who was an accomplished attorney and first lady of Arkansas before moving to the White House, frequently claims more than 30 years experience in public life, contrasting herself with Barack Obama's slimmer resume - he served several years in the Illinois legislature and was elected to the US Senate in 2004.

The Clinton campaign claimed on Wednesday that the release of the papers would show Clinton to have been an influential advocate at home and around the world on behalf of the US. But the documents from her office in the White House threaten to undermine her claim to have played a major role in Clinton's foreign policy decisions.

For instance, Clinton has said she helped negotiate the April 1998 Good Friday agreement between warring factions in Northern Ireland. But while Catholic and Protestant figures hashed out last-minute details of a power-sharing agreement in Belfast, Clinton was at the National Press Club in Washington at a party honouring Bella Abzug, a congresswoman from New York City who had died recently. While President Clinton phoned major participants in the peace talks, she met with Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel and joined a farewell party for Democratic operative Karen Finney. On the day the agreement was actually signed, she met with Philippine first lady Amelita Ramos.

When Nato launched air strikes against Serbia in an attempt to punish Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic for the country's onslaught against ethnic Albanian separatists in Kosovo, Clinton toured ancient Egyptian ruins, including King Tut's tomb and the temple of Hatshepsut. She dined at the Temple of Luxor, and stayed overnight at the Sofitel Winter Palace Hotel there.

On August 20, 1998, Bill Clinton ordered US missile strikes on suspected terrorist sites in Sudan and Afghanistan. The president and Hillary Clinton were on holiday on Martha's Vineyard, a posh island vacation spot off the coast of Massachusetts. After announcing the attack, Clinton cut short his break and returned to Washington to confer with his national security team; Hillary Clinton remained on the Vineyard until August 30, her records show.

There are other key foreign policy dates when the record is not so clear: on the day the presidents of three Balkan states signed a peace agreement in Dayton, Ohio, in November 1995, ending years of ethnic violence in the former Yugoslavia, Clinton's file lists no public schedule for that day, but indicates she was in Washington.

The documents' release on Wednesday came in response to a conservative organisation's freedom of information request and subsequent lawsuit. The records include schedules from nearly 3,000 days Clinton was in the White House, and detail meetings, trips, speaking engagements and social activities.

Bruce Lindsey, a Little Rock attorney and long time Clinton confidant, vetted the pages prior their release. He and national archives staff checked the documents for information sensitive to national security and law enforcement matters.

Nearly a third of the pages have redactions, most of which the archives said were made to protect the privacy of Clinton's associates. The redacted material includes home addresses, telephone numbers and social security numbers, the archives said.

Christopher Farrell, director of investigations and research with Judicial Watch, the organisation behind the two-year-long legal effort to win the documents' release, said he doesn't anticipate finding any "smoking gun" within the reams of pages.

He said Lindsey "has enormous discretion" to redact information potentially damaging to Clinton's White House bid. "My expectations are quite low."

Hillary Clinton was present in the White House, however, for at least one significant event of the Clinton presidency. On November 15 1995, when President Clinton is said to have begun his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, she was in the White House, according to her schedule.

The release of Clinton's White House papers have made it possible to work out her whereabouts during the key moments in the Lewinsky scandal by comparing her schedule to the detailed account of Clinton's affair detailed in the Starr Report.

On at least one other occasion, the Clintons met on official White House duties shortly after Bill Clinton and Lewinsky had been engaged in sexual activity, the papers suggest.

So because Hillary wasn't at the White House the day when Nixon resigned, she couldn't have worked with the Watergate committee?

No need to insert the "some people say . . ." device a number of prominent politicians use. You claim that "Her experience . . . is certainly a lot more than nothing, as many detractors have claimed." Please show me evidence of an important detractor saying that her experience was nothing. Saying that experience as a first lady does not prepare one to be commander in chief is not the same as saying her experience is "nothing." She did good work as first lady. That says little to nothing about her ability to answer the red phone at 3 a.m. She oversold her experience. End of story.

(If you're talking about commenters here you should say "commenters" - detractors makes it sound like this was an important point out in the press, which I don't beleive it was.)

The republicans didn't used to be the enemy... the USSR was. Can it be that the loss of a common enemy has caused us to turn on each other?

The right wing smear machine has polarized us soooo much that we see each other as enemies if we disagree on stuff.
The vast right wing conspiracy to smear Bill Clinton and HRC was real folks. They were out to get the dems. But the Bush presidency has a silver lining. He woke us up. We woke up angry.

Let's try to channel that anger constructively.
Please?
And for god's sake let's not mimic the GOP smear machine.

Archibald MacLeish published a wonderful article (no longer available online, to my knowledge) in which he posited things like this if the US-USSR Cold War ended. His reasoning was interesting - we defined ourselves solely in opposition to the Russians, and without them, had no concept of ourselves.

He was right.

She is married to Bill. Do you think Bill didn't discuss everything with her? Do you think Bill didn't listen to her?
She was the strongest First Lady in history.
We have never had a presidential candidate not running for reelection with more experience than she has.

We know that Bill did not discuss everything with her, and we know that he did not always listen to her. Hillary said that "Bill is a hard dog to keep on the porch"

Bill discussed everything with her?

Love to have been a fly on the wall the first time Monica Lewinsky came up...

Apparently Bill didn't listen to her about NAFTA, at least if you believe her side of the story.

I agree with the WP article in a lot of ways. It's certainly unreasonable to suggest that Hillary wasn't involved in foreign or domestic matters during Bill's administration.

The problem is that her claims of involvement tend to be absurdly overblown (for example, on peace in Ireland or visiting Bosnia with Sinbad). At the same time, her historic positions on issues of current political importance always seem to come out matching the way the winds blow today, even when evidence (such as her past public support for NAFTA) suggests otherwise.

Until a superdelegate comes forward telling us he got a call, this is just gossip.

We now know that Hillary lied to the American People about NAFTA. Her schedules shows that she was a very active supporter and pusher of NAFTA.

Hillary was asked about it on Wednesday, and she refused to answer the question. She just shrugged. If they were not contacting the super delegates with that race baiting tactic, she would have said so.

suntzu: Hey, like any pol, Hillary has a right to toot her own horn, even exaggerate a bit. But her biggest over the line tactic was to endorse the enemy, the Republican candidate, over her own fellow Democrat.

Your conclusion is indisputable. Regarding the first bit:

Yes tooting one's horn is okay. But blasting a bullhorn of lies about one's accomplishments is not. She has laid down a trail of disingenuousness in this regard. Her claim of 35 years of experience have been debunked. She didn't even write the book she claims to have authored:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Takes_a_Village

Clinton has been criticized for not giving credit to a ghostwriter in connection with It Takes a Village. The majority of the book was reportedly written by ghostwriter Barbara Feinman.[8] When the book was first announced in April 1995, The New York Times reported publisher Simon & Schuster as saying "The book will actually be written by Barbara Feinman, a journalism professor at Georgetown University in Washington. Ms. Feinman will conduct a series of interviews with Mrs. Clinton, who will help edit the resulting text."[9] Feinman spent seven months on the project and was paid $120,000 for her work.[10] Feinman, however, was not mentioned anywhere in the book.

Tooting one's horn is ok...
But bullshitting the public about one's false accomplishments is pure flimflam.

Resume padders are pathetic creatures in everyone's eyes. No doubt, Dante created a circle of hell just for them.

"She is married to Bill. Do you think Bill didn't discuss everything with her?"

Given that logic, how is it she was so utterly taken in by the Bush Administration? Would Bill's experience with Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein not have come up in the run-up to war?

JF Christ, read her speech on the AUMF vote - she wasn't so "utterly taken in" by the Bush Adminstration. Wash, rinse, recycle, regurgitate.

So, would a Clinton victory next year be a repudiation of Karl Rove politics or the perpetuation of them?

It really is quite silly to suggest that a Clinton victory would be a perpetuation of Rovian politics.

Even Rove never stooped to the level of having a Republican candidate say that a Democrat was more qualified than a Republican opponent.

I don't see how Hillary manages to spin her NAFTA story into anything but....well....trash.

Did she really oppose NAFTA when she was First Lady and Bill was busy selling American jobs and environmental regulatory control to the corporatists?

There seem to be two choices: Either she DID oppose it, but was so ineffectual that she had NO effect on the outcome, and could not even get PRESS coverage, or

She did NOT oppose it, and is simply lying now.

Where's the up-side here for her?

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