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Rasmussen: Hillary Ahead Two To One In West Virginia Primary
A new Rasmussen poll shows Hillary Clinton is way, way ahead in the West Virginia primary, with Hillary at 55% to Obama's 27%. The poll further shows that 35% of Clinton supporters say they'd be not at all likely to vote for Obama if he's the nominee.
The West Virginia primary will take place May 13, a week after the North Carolina and Indiana contests in which Obama is currently favored. The good news for Hillary is that she's got a big lead, but the bad news is that only 28 delegates will be at stake — so even a huge win probably wouldn't make for all that much of a pledged-delegate gain.
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Oh no, we are doomed, doomed I tell you. This is the end. It means clinton is going to win wv in a walkaway and then the nomination. All is lost, the clintons win and mccain wins in November. Let's all get prepared for a mccain presidency. Clintons win!!!!!!
March 20, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
"North Caroline...where Obama is currently favored."
Didn't your poll yesterday show they were statistically tied?
March 20, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Small states don't count anyway, right?
March 20, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Has Obama campaigned there yet?
March 20, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
DirkVa wrote:
I don't think it would matter if he did.
I don't think that will ever matter again.
I think people now see that Obama is a fraud so that Obama mojo magik will no longer work. They won't drink the koolaid.
Rae
March 20, 2008 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has stated the truth about racism in America. Your post is proof of it.
Mike (a Caucasian, BTW)
March 20, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why have I not heard anything about the percentage of Obama supporters that would not support Hillary in the general election? I guarantee you the number is far higher, given her built-in negatives (GOP turnout) and the way she's conducted her campaign.
March 20, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not sure that's a good thing.
This just proves that Democrats are going to lose in November unless they can get behind one candidate.
March 20, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
This may sound crude and it should not be figure into the consideration. Obama said Clinton's supporters will automatically support him but he is not sure about his supporters, implying many of them won't. This cannot be any furhter away from the truth. You can think it over if you can take a break from your admiration of Obama. Many of Obama supporters will be disappointd when he is not the nominee. Being the anti-war left extreminists or young students, some of you may choose to stay home. It is difficult to envision most of you, except for few moderate Republicans, to show up in November and vote for McCain.
On the other hand, a lot of Clinton supporters are low-income white conservative democrats - Reagan democrats. We supporters of Clinton value experience over rhetoric and we are certainly not as agaisnt the war as you. So a lot of us will have no problem voting for McCain if Obama were nominated.
Here is the math. If Hillary is the nominee, you take some people off the D side. if Obama were the nominee, you take people of the D side and add them to the R side. Do your calculation!
March 20, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Especially if you value experience, then you'll certainly be voting for McCain over Hillary since he has tons more than she.
March 20, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Aimey May's contention, while distressing, sounds about right to my ear. Of course, I think that she is overgeneralizing somewhat. The folks who vote for Clinton in CA are not necessarily motivated by the same considerations as the folks who vote for her in FL, etc and so forth, so it is not clear to me that all Clinton supporters everywhere could be expected to react to an Obama nomination in the same way. That said, I am sure that there are several states where the Obama candidacy would drive Clinton supporters to McCain, and the frequency of this phenomenon would likely not be trivial.
March 20, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll vote Green Party or for Nader if Hillary is the nominee AND stole the election. She's going to lose in votes, states, and regular delegates.
She is secretive LIKE BUSH. She was FOR the war LIKE BUSH. She should NOT be president, period.
March 20, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, most of the polls I've seen recently suggest Obama supporters are more likely to support Clinton than vice versa. Guess your reasoning is flawed.
March 20, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, there is danger that IF Hillary can win the rest of the remaining states, that will seed doubt among the Superdelegates.
Stilll, I don't trust these polls. Too close to a very negative weekend for Obama. Let's check back in a week or two when things have calmed down a bit.
March 20, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure the poll is wrong. They always are. However, wv is a clinton state. Demographically it is like PA and Ohio. She will win wv. The news would be if there was a huge upset by obama or that obama was up in the polls. Unless dems wake up and actually see the reality about the clintons, they will win some more states. However, they will never catch up in pledged delegates, so all this hue and cry really is a waste of time and hurting dems for the general election.
March 20, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
This poll was taken about the time that the Wright flap broke. Also BHO hasn't really campaigned here at all.
Not that I think it matters much, I think this is one of those states that race matters plus it is the lower income, lower education level that favors Ms Clinton so heavily so I don't think Obama can really win here (ala Kentucky & Tennessee) but hopefully he can close the gap in the next couple of months.
March 20, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
CHECK OUT HRC'S MEMBERSHIP TO THE FELLOWSHIP, TRULY A CULT LIKE RIGHT WING BIBLE GROUP.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html
March 20, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh that is really pathetic indepdnentmeans.
Your guy is scandalized so now you are turning over every rock to try to find a way to smear Hillary's beliefs and connections.
That is not only pathetic and desperate, it is disgusting. And unfortunately, it it typical of you immature Obama supporters. Do you reall think this type of thing is going to take the nation, the world's attention off of Obama and his connections with Wright, Farrakhan, etc.??
Rae
March 20, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
CHECK OUT HRC'S MEMBERSHIP TO THE FELLOWSHIP, TRULY A CULT LIKE RIGHT WING BIBLE GROUP.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html
March 20, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
I love that. We need more publicity for this. You ultra liberal elitists may not like the idea of religion in public life. Most other people do. The African Americans and the Latinos and the Jewish are among the most religious people in this country. This may swing some white evengelicals that she is a god-fearing human not an evial lesbian after all. thank you for bringing this to my attention and to the world's attention!!!
March 20, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sometimes there are things more important than winning.
March 20, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Losing, perhaps?
March 20, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
WV is like what 2 months away? But yeah ok lets just keep reporting polls like this even though, we keep saying we hate it.
March 20, 2008 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
O I noticed your willing to post this poll by Rasmussen but you didnt post the poll showing Obama was up in their tracking poll and instead you posted the Gallup one showing Obama down.
March 20, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Experience? McCain can claim more.
CIC? A former prisoner of war vs a first lady who was pouring tea when bombs began falling over Serbia. Hmm, I wonder who has the advantage.
Latinos? McCain is quite popular. I read his name in La Opinion all the time, and it is usually in favorable tones. McCain has a chance of spliting this vote, despite the Know-Nothings currently running wild in the Republican Party.
The point is that if you run like McCain, McCain wins.
March 20, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I suspect as the news of Obama's 20 year history at a racist, America hating church sinks in, the poll numbers in WV will be increasingly typical across America. The only people left rushing to vote for Obama will be his followers in the racist, America-hating Obama Cult.
On the 18th, Obama gave a good speech, something he can do. But in it, the real takeaways are that he lied previously about hearing the hate and racism from his 20-year friend, that he continues his friendship, that he raises his children in that environment, and that it is not his problem but rather everyone elses. Even Oprah had better judgement by leaving the Trinity Church 10 years ago. (And I do not see her around pushing Obama anymore either...)
March 20, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know it is amazing but not surprising given Matthew Weaver, Rae K and other commentary over this election cycle that they have doubts about Obama. It is also not surpring that many of his poll numbers have dropped in recent days due to the exposure of a 2:00 clip of sermon his minister at his church gave during this year. It is also not surprising that all of the candidates have something that smells in their respective backgrounds, they are politicians! It is not surprising the amount of hate-filled speech that has ensued after the Rev Wright clips. It is not surprising the ignorant short-sighted commentary that I read everyday in the media and the blog community. It is surprising to hear a politician of mixed ancestory talk about the resentment within all the diverse cultures whether they be white, Black, Hispanic, ASian or Native American. It is surprising seeing a candidate asking for unity in all parties for American progress. It was surprising to be against the war in 2002 when it was not mainstream nor politically expediant. It is surprising that we have two candidates who both agree that Universal Healthcare coverage is a good thing for American busines and a good thing for the American people. It is surprising to hear a candidate speak against the crimes against minority communities because of anti-immigrant sentiment. It is surprising that we have two candidates who either of which will be a first.
It is not surprising given our current relationship in the global community both economic and foreign policy that Americans are showing great pause is deciding who will lead us forward, but it will be surprising if we actually decide in great numbers to invest ourselves in learining about each of the candidates background. Maybe we need to all listen and empathize with those that are different so that we may learne about ourselves and all the diverse discourse which each community member is invested in!
March 20, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
My point is on electability. If you want to continue to live in blissful ignorance while you replay Obama speeches and gaze at only positive stories about him, then you are all in for a rude awakening.
What is more important to you? To see him win the nomination or to see a dem back in the White House? Because I'm starting to think it is the former. It is looking like you Obama supporters would rather win the nomination, at any cost: Even if it means the dems will lose in the general just so you can crown your guy winner of the nomination. Him winning the nomination won't mean sh*t if he doesn't win the general election. Why are we wasting all this money? Just for a nomination??
This thinking is so crazy its beyond words.
Rae
March 20, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Newsflash, moron, Obama can win the general election.
He's handled the Wright controversy like a pro. Bill Clinton couldn't have done better.
March 20, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Handled it?! You're kidding right? He's lied about it numerous times. The only news on Tuesday is that admits he hear the anti-American hatred and racism. What would really be news would be for him to apologize for lying.
March 20, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
As regards West Virginia politics,,, remember, the right wing nutter machine, and the Republican party,,,,, worked in the Gore case, to tell folks that the librul Gore was going to take their Bibles away,,,,, the next time around Catholic (and Irish) librul Kerry was going to take their Bibles away,,,,, and Kerry isn't even Irish. Every jack leg preacher in the state picked it up and pounded on it constantly. Works every time.
The only way the Obama folks can counter that arguement is do like was done in the old days,,,,, a twelve pack or a quart of shine per vote,,,,, works every time.
West Virginia is a very primitive and parochial place.
March 20, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink