13% undecided? Are you kidding?

This poll is meaningless.

also in the poll (but overlooked by Eric):

A similar PPP poll for Florida released yesterday showed Hillary Clinton having trouble
with black voters and Barack Obama with difficulty shoring up the Democratic base.

The same trend shows itself in Ohio. Clinton leads McCain just 47-27 with the key
demographic of African American voters, while Obama pulls just 62% with respondents
who identified themselves as Democrats.

“Some of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama’s supporters dislike the other candidate so
much that at this point they’re not committing to voting for the eventual Democratic
nominee in the general election,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling.
“They’ll probably come around but a key factor here is whether Democrats end up
feeling that their nominee was chosen through a legitimate process. If they don’t it could
cause some folks to sit on their hands this fall,” Debnam continued.
McCain has no such problems shoring up his base. He gets 88% of Republican votes
against Clinton and 86% against Obama.

Eric, is this a joke? Seriously. Read this statement again:

With Obama having started out as the favorite here, a potential loss would seriously damage his candidacy and boost Hillary's chance at the nomination.

Now, did you write that after every state that Hillary started out as a favorite as and then lost? Because that would be...EVERY STATE HILLARY LOST.

With every passing day, I'm shocked at how intellectually lazy the majority of this country has become. Just boggles my mind.

Greg,

I think the flaw with this poll is that it is too far out to really read too much into it.

I would argue, however, that there are parts of North Carolina that is ripe Clinton territory. I never have thought (and still do not think)that Sen. Clinton will take North Carolina. I have also never thought that Sen. Obama will carry it by enormous margins (as he does in most of the 'Southern' states) Look at a map.

The districts in Georgia, Alabama, and Tennesse that did go for Sen. Clinton are districts that border North Carolina. Consider the support she is likely to receive in West Virginia and Kentucky, and the battle for North Carolina has a much difference shape. This is really going to be one of those states where, like it or not, it comes down to African American versus the country land.

Finally, PPP has actually had a very good track record this year. Mostly, they hosts general national polls. However, being based out of North Carolina, they do hold 'local' polls too, and were by far the closest to predict the outcome of the South Carolina primary.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_SC_Release_012608.pdf

Those rankings are off-base. Most of the pollsters in the top ten have a small average error rate because they have done less polling. (Selzer? Mitchell? Research 2000?)

SurveyUSA has been spot on for most of the year, and ABC News and InsiderAdvantage have faired well, as well.

But PPP has performed better than pollsters giants Zogby, Rasmussen, ARG, CNN, Gallup, and CBS.

Grrrreat!!

I just knew Hillary would move up in N.C.

Of course the black population which is large % in NC will probably not be disuaded by any of this hate talk by Obama's wife and pastor. But the rest of the people probably will turn on Obama.

Also, Hillary is proving more and more that she is the one who is electable in the general - not Obama who now obviously will lose the general election. His judgment has been put in question big time. Any man who would allow his children to be filled with hate, in a day and age when most young blacks in America know nothing about such hate, and yet he is allowing them to be infused with all this old hatred, such a man is seriously flawed.

Some have argued that maybe he joined that church only because it was the biggest one in Chicago and to prove his credentials as a real black, if he did that at the expense of his children, it is inexecusable.

Rae

NC should go to BO by 10+ points. Gotta be a registered Dem or Indy to vote in the primary; 20+ percent of voters are Indy and a big proportion of registered Dems are AA (30+? I’m too lazy and busy to check). If you vote early, you can register and vote at the same time. Obama’s sort of brierpatch, definitely.

He rolled in about 8PM last night. Check the polls in a week or so...

Things are fluid in this campaign, moreso than usual right now, with the Wright controversy, Obama speech, FLA & MI up in the air, etc. Also, no primaries for over a month...Polls mean very little at the moment. Prediction: Obama wins NC by about as much as Hillary will win PA....meaning basically a delegate wash. Underlying dynamics unchanged, Superdelegates not likely to move en masse to support the candidate trailing in states won, pledged delegates, and popular vote.

I'm open to a NC wager, Ombuds, what u think?

Bottom line, as has already been mentioned, this is a clear indication that hillary's kitchen sink, along with the complicity of the media to manipulate the masses, is hurting the party more than it's hurting Obama.

I have primary fatigue.
I have Clinton fatigue.
And I've totally had it with the media, which is responsible all of this.
It's the media that keeps this going.

So NC is an "African-American contest"? Interesting way to put it.

But today is "cherry-picked polls for Hillary day" (check your official media calendars - IT'S TRUE) so I'll give you a pass.

"A separate PPP poll also shows Hillary performing stronger than Obama in the general election for Ohio, giving fuel to the Hillary camp's argument that they're more electable in key big states"

AARGH! NO IT DOESN'T! All it shows is that she beats Obama in those states. It has NOTHING to do with either candidate's GE performance against McCain!

Don't buy this crap. At this point we're only talking about nominability (yes, Bush has ruined me), not "electability."

Every time I see a statement like "a large proportion of Dems are AA", I wonder if alcoholism can really be so prevalent.

THEN I realize what that "AA" means.

I guess I'm just not racial enough for this game.

By the way, look at the top right corner of your screen: Clinton still loses to McCain in NH, CO and nationally.

Hillary won't quit until she's destroyed him. Then she'll go on to lose against McCain.

PPP has 65% of sample over age of 46, while Survey USA has 48% of sample over age of 50, and shows Obama with 9% lead. Not exaclty ccomparing apples to apples but pretty close. Admittedly survey usa is 7 days old and doesn't include Wright effect, but important to point out PPP is heavyv - too heavy in my opinion - on voters more supportive of Clinton.