Power Resigns Over Hillary-Is-Monster Comment
Here's her statement, just sent out by the campaign:
“With deep regret, I am resigning from my role as an advisor the Obama campaign effective today. Last Monday, I made inexcusable remarks that are at marked variance from my oft-stated admiration for Senator Clinton and from the spirit, tenor, and purpose of the Obama campaign. And I extend my deepest apologies to Senator Clinton, Senator Obama, and the remarkable team I have worked with over these long 14 months."
In an interview with The Scotsman, Power called Hillary a "monster" and said other less-than-flattering things about her. Despite her prompt apology yesterday, the Hillary camp demanded her resignation this morning.
Less than two hours later, she's out.
Late Update: As David Kurtz says, it's worth noting that Power is a very significant player in the Obama universe -- his leading foreign policy guru and someone who's been close to him for some time. So this isn't like the resignation of that Hillary county volunteer who spread the Obama Muslim smear email or the stepping-down of that Obama precinct captain who spread the anti-Hillary lit.
Rather, Obama is losing a key adviser and very visible advocate on foreign policy at a time when national security is front and center in the Dem primary -- an outcome that helps explain why the Hillary camp pushed so hard for her ouster.
Late Late Update: I used the word "svengali" to describe Power when I meant "guru." Words cannot express how sorry I am for this horrible insult. As a result, I am now resigning from this post and deeply regret any damage I did to it.

We're patiently awaiting Mr. Wolfson's resignation....
March 7, 2008 11:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's for the best. Now we can move on.
HillaryCo won't have anything to complain about for the weekend.
March 7, 2008 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
My thought exactly. Best lance the boil straightaway, rather than let it fester and grow.
March 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't worry. The day's not over - they'll create something.
March 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. We've seen what happens when we give in to bullies. They turn into GW Bush.
March 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I heard Goldsbee said Clinton smells like corn chips. The shit's about to hit the fan!
March 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
NO. this is not for the best. Samantha Power's voice in foreign policy is essential to Obama's message. her emphasis on poverty and genocide and how to prevent them is exactly what is desperately needed in modern American foreign policy, as is her blunt, tell-it-like-it-is approach. this isn't about politics, this is about crafting a foreign policy worldview applicable to the 21st century and the world we live in. and to let politics supersede that vision is despicable.
i'm disgusted in the Obama campaign right now. this should not have happened.
March 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jeez, get over it. He does not need an advisor (or one specific advisor to the exclusion of others) to inform him on these issues, including global poverty and genocide -- and she can always be made part of the administration when the time comes regardless of this incident -- but the fact is that he does not need the distraction at this critical moment in the campaign, and it will make his counterattacks that much more powerful if he is not burdened down with this type of crap (especially when it comes to shutting down Wolfson and Penn when they go over the top as you know they will).
It's a marathon, and he's going to win it going away. When that happens, as it inevitably will, Hillary's UFB willingness to throw the party and Obama under the bus for the sake of her political ambition will be a faded memory.
March 7, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't be silly. They'll continue to complain about it and milk the sympathy train for all it's gravy
/That's right, watch me mix metaphors like Thomas freedman on acid. Yehaw!
March 7, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope hillary uses that against obama:):)
March 7, 2008 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is Hillary really that petty and short-sighted? Besides, what's there to "use"? Obama et alia did the right thing.
March 7, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope that she tries. I would far rather see her waste valuable time on an issue so trivially unlikely to gain traction among voters.
March 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ooooh, I hope she tries. What's she going to say? That one of his advisors made a misstatement and she immediately resigned, IN KEEPING WITH OBAMA'S PLEDGE OF INTEGRITY, HONESTY AND TRANSPARENCY? Anything she says now will look extremely petty and nasty because his campaign did what she demanded he do, and did it swiftly and with grace and dignity. You really make me laugh. When she starts conducting her campaign the way he has conducted his, then you can come here and have some leg to stand on. Until then, no deal.
March 7, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
You don't sound like you're laughing, Carol.
And, last I checked, anyone can "come here" and say anything, including erroneous, misinformed, unsubstantiated, knee-jerk reactive, and altogether false things. Happens every day, from what I've observed. Everyone is allowed to speak "here" (still), even if you disagree with them. So get off the high horse already.
March 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, but I am laughing ... her statement was so ludicrous that I actually did have a chuckle.
You're right - she can come here and say anything she wants (everybody can). But if she spouts nonsense she will be called on it. I love my high horse and don't plan on getting down anytime soon! :P
March 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks.
March 7, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very sad and unfortunate, but I'm of the opinion that it was necessary to shut this down right away and to prevent the Clinton campaign from making this into a monumental issue. She will NOT be able to say that he's two-faced, or that he says one thing and does another, or any of that, the way she did with the (now debunked) NAFTA-gate stupidity.
It was a really unfortunate thing for her to have said, even off the record, and this was really the only solution that has the least implications for mischief from the Clinton campaign.
March 7, 2008 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
The sad thing is Ms. Power was 100% correct.
Monster:
1 a: an animal or plant of abnormal form or structure b: one who deviates from normal or acceptable behavior or character
2: a threatening force
3 a: an animal of strange or terrifying shape b: one unusually large for its kind
4: something monstrous; especially : a person of unnatural or extreme ugliness, deformity, wickedness, or cruelty
Yep, Hillary qualifies.
March 7, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Such bullshit. Who are you, Karl Rove? You folks with Barack Blinders on need to remember that while you may disagree with her campaign tactics (as do I, largely), Hillary IS a Democrat and their policies are 90-99% the same even if their strategies differ. Just remember that before you start spouting that "Hillary is the enemy" b.s.
March 7, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary IS a Democrat
Hillary is a Democrat of convenience. She's willing to take the party into the gutter and oblivion thereafter as long as she things it'll get her nominated.
March 7, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's "thinks"
March 7, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
What baloney. Just because you disagree with her doesn't make her a Republican or a DINO or whatever you want to call it. She is my Senator and she has done an incredible job. Take off your blinders and quit the ideological crap. Whether you know it -- or want to hear it -- or not, Hillary has championed Liberal causes from her first day in the Senate. I disagree with her AUMF vote obviously, and as I have said numerous times on this blog I disagree with her CAMPAIGN tactics, but shoot man, she IS a genuine, authentic Democrat who cares deeply and acts on Liberal issues. Not as Liberal as I would like (my fav Senator is Bernie Sanders), but she is genuinely and solidly on the Left. If Obama Blinders people had any sort of political intellect -- as opposed to pure cheerleader-type ideology -- they would recognize, as Obama has, that the candidates SHARE a vast majority of policy ideas and plans. Please. Again. A LITTLE more intellectual honesty and less blind ideology in this debate is all I am asking.
March 7, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're right, endorsing McCain over Obama is what loyal Democrats do all the time.
March 8, 2008 9:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
The word next to my profile says Independent. That means I don't HAVE to agree with anything.
When Democrats in general start standing up for my country and my civil liberties instead of peeing in their undergarments every time the White House says boo, I may consider changing that.
Talk to me when the Democratic Party learns to frame the debate like Senator Tester:
Until then, I reserve the right to think for myself.
March 7, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Slouch,
What a slippery slope argument, and of course it proves my point that to a large extent the anti-Hillary camp is focused on ideology and not intellectually honest debate on substantive issues. OF COURSE you are free to have your own opinions (DUH!), and I applaud that you are so interested in participating in this debate as an Independent, but it seems to me that you disagree with my comment that you are disagreeing with the following statement that I made:
"Hillary IS a Democrat and their policies are 90-99% the same even if their strategies differ"
If so, please provide one bit of evidence that Hillary Clinton is NOT a Democrat or that Obama and she differ significantly on issues of importance.
The fact is that you cannot disagree with that statement unless you are willfully ignoring or misinterpreting reality as we know it. Once again, I disagree with many of her CAMPAIGN TACTICS, but even Obama has said on multiple occasions that the differences in policy positions are minimal.
Let me be perfectly clear. I want Barack Obama to be the President. Straight up. Voted for him in the NY primary, etc. But I do *NOT* want to fall into the trap of an internalized blood-bath over what truly amounts to MIMINAL differences among two very very strong Democrats. We should be celebrating the differences and having a constructive dialog about issues of importance to America, and NOT demonizing one candidate or the other. Because of what I have just stated and my appreciation for Hillary's service on my behalf, I will continue to defend what I believe are unfair, ideologically-driven attacks on her by anyone.
There are plenty of issues to address in regards to Hillary's campaign, statements, or plans, but let's take out the personal demonization and have a debate on those issues.
March 7, 2008 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay....I'll take this as being consistent to sticking to the high road even while your enemy is constantly trashing you. I still think Obama should have ignored this and pivoted back to issues that actually *matter.* I hope this doesn't mean the Obama campaign is planning to back down from pushing back against Hillary people on other fronts.
March 7, 2008 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Powers' resigning is good for Obama because it gets the issue out of the way so he can concentrate on attacking Hillary on the real issues ("I Heart McCain" and the Iraq war -- heating up again with the NIE).
On the other hand, I would not worry about Powers. She is a big girl and can take care of herself. She has paid for her indiscretion and will learn from it. More, she has attained iconic status overnight as someone who is willing to speak her mind on Hillary, albeit being intemperate with her language. Today, I tell you, the country is filled with new Samantha Powers fans.
So there, Hillary.
March 7, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Quick action. I certainly hope this is merely an "official" resignation. I'm sure this will not be last we hear from her in the long-term. you simply can't eliminate a brilliant mind simply because she mis-spoke.
Interesting to see that Obama lives up to his promise of relieving anyone who doesn't covey the right "message."
March 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
My thoughts exactly.
March 7, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
For the record, btw, The only "misspeak" was saying "off the record" after she made the tactless* comment instead of before. A valuable and painful lesson that will server her well during the rest of her career.
In any case, I'd put the Scottish rag on the campaign's "Dead to Me" list with Fox, if I were Obama. Its a request that should have been honored.
And for all the Obama supporterse calling for Wolson's resignation, are you people crazy? The only thing that could be worse for Obama than Clinton losing Wolfson would be if Penn were forced to resigned.
*"Tact is just not saying true stuff" Cordelia Chase.
March 7, 2008 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. :-)
March 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
One candidate has class. The other doesn't.
March 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
And one candidate's staff is now lacking one completely classless member. Losing this "person" is good for Barack. Notice I call her a "person". Barack's child army saves "bitch" for Hilary - they'd be offended if the word was used on one of their own.
March 7, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I noticed you called her a "person." And I would have said, "that's a decent post, noone should call Clinton a bitch." But I also noticed your next asinine, insulting remark against Obama supporters. Wanna try again, genius?
March 7, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yawn. Talk about a high horse.
March 7, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
When is Wolfson going to quit?
March 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, the deed is done. Obama should accept the resignation expeditiously and get on with attacking Clinton's record.
March 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
capitulating to princess pantsuit IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
March 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
It is also excellent news for all the other monsters out there!
March 7, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, when is Howard Wolfson leaving? Or are only women not free to say dumb things?
March 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Amazing. Sad.
Classy woman, I have to say. We've all spoken out when we should have held our tongues (or I certainly have...and I don't think I am alone). It is a shame that the Obama campaign will loose her.
Obama inspires an incredible new conscience in people, I think. Leading by example. Nobody is perfect, for sure, but he comes closer than I'd thought possible...especially in the political arena.
March 7, 2008 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Barack is Alice in Wonderland and Hilary is the Queen of Hearts, demanding everyone's heads.
March 7, 2008 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
While her comment was certainly regrettable, I don't see it as being an offense necessitating her resignation, but Clinton saw the opening and took advantage of it. Ironic that she's been so effusive in her praise for McCain recently considering his much nastier and out-of-bounds comment about Chelsea years back.
Politics is an ugly game that would rather suffocate "hope" in its crib than aspire to something better. Shame.
March 7, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I know this is part of the game, but the Clintons' manufactured outrage and phony indignation are getting tiresome.
McCain gets to say, "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno", but he is praised by Hillary. Rush calls Chelsea the White House Dog, but Bill goes on his show.
With this latest silliness, it's the overreach, again. She always takes it that one step further that prevents non-supporters from siding with her.
March 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Clintons are total hypocrites and will do anything to return to the White House.
I wish someone on the Obama team or the MSM would call Hillary Out on the McCain and Limbaugh asertions because both Clintons have been kissing there asses as of late. It's pathetic.
March 7, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great. Glad that piece of silliness is over. The horserace aspect of this primary can really be distorting. Let's not forget the Decider is not going gently into that good night of his irrelevance:
March 7, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
That is TRULY BAD NEWS. It sounds like, "Iran, here we come!" But thanks for posting.
March 7, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, TPM'ers -- let's now scour the airwaves and net for *any* official Clinton supporter calling Obama names, and pounce the moment it's out, and call for Clinton to fire him or her. No double standards.
March 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Calling Obama names is what Hillary's campaign is all about - they've mastered the art of the backhanded compliment, the thinly-veiled jabs at race, religion, experience, etc.
I imagine that's why Hillary's people were so amazed at Power's statement: it's been drummed into them to say everything covertly instead of overtly.
March 7, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean like Tina Fey calling Clinton a bitch?
I always thought Sen. Clinton should've gotten in more trouble in 2000 for agreeing that somebody should've killed Nader. But everyone shrugged it off.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,87827,00.html
March 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn. Deprived the Clintons and the vapid media something talk about ad nausem for the next 7 news cycle. Meanwhile, not much of peep about NAFTA-gate part deux or Clinton acting as chief surrogate for McCain.
And folks wonder how we ended up with Dubya in the first place.
March 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sigh...
March 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not seeing how Shaheen + unknown precient captain in Iowa = one Samantha Powers. I think she owes him a head next time one of her people says or does something over the top. Like, say, comparing Obama to Ken Starr.
Seriously, its a smart resignation. Kills the story and keeps her from whining about it til Pennsylvania.
March 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Double standard nonsense.
March 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a very good move--Obama MUST maintain the moral high ground in this campaign and this was the only way for him to do so. This also gives him credibility and leverage if a Clinton higher-up says something idiotic akin to the "monster" comment (and that will happen, for sure).
March 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
WTF? Hillary demands it, and so it must be??
Maybe Hillary should just demand that Obama quit the race now and support her. Then we could all get more sleep.
How does this not look like a cave-in by Obama? I mean, really, "monster" is such a negative term that someone has to resign?? I could understand it if we were talking about the B-word or the C-word, but "monster"?!
Something odd is going on here.
-- ARG
March 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Quick, clean and decisive. Nice. Seven weeks from now in PA this will be old news. Keep swatting the flies Obama and hold steady, Hillary's bigger pile of dirt will soon sully her ship.
March 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
And?
Race-baiting, condescending ageism, outright deception on "NAFTA-gate", running on her husband's record, on and on...
Samantha Power merely vocalized what most people have been thinking. A no-no, but one with plenty of truth behind it.
March 7, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Recommendation to the Obama campaign:
Reject Power's resignation and submit this comment, "I (Obama) accept Samantha Power's apology and believe she is sincere. I see no reason for her valued counsel and advice to end here due to an admitted mistake. I would hope my opponent would agree that it is important to forgive those who make mistakes, but that does not mean we should end the relationship."
March 7, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, clinton is looking after her own gender once again. You go girl!!!! Maybe some of the gender voters will now see her for what she is, a monster. Pathetic, I hope the scumbags are happy.
March 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Calling Obama Ken Starr is almost as bad as calling Hillary a monster (evil person).
Shall we ask that her campaign manager step down?
I praise Power's for doing this for her candidate. Once this campaign is over, I sincerely hope Obama will remember her in HIS new administration.
March 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Calling Obama Ken Starr is almost as bad as calling Hillary a monster (evil person)."
It would be, had the Clinton campaign actually called Sen. Obama Ken Starr. But they did not. They referred to the Obama campaign's tax return memo (and its accusatory "what is she hiding?") as a Ken Starr-type tactic.
March 7, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that goes without saying. Barack Obama is not the kind of man that forgets his trusted friends and confidantes. Also, Samantha Power is SCARY BRILLIANT. I have listened to her during many lectures. "A Problem from Hell: America and the Age of Genocide" is a must read for any progressive of conscience.
March 7, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is it an indication of how far from decency politics has come that I am stunned by the Powers' resignation? I am impressed time and again by the Obama camp's integrity. I am galled (and gutted) time and again by the Hillary camp's elastic relationship with truth, and the meaning of words.
I thought her description of Clinton as a 'monster' was actually an accurate descriptor -- far truer than the smears the Clinton campaign has been throwing around with abandon.
But I guess the somber point being made here is about language, and adult behavior. I can only applaud Samantha Powers for her bravery, contrition, and integrity. I have no words for Ms Clinton. She can hear from me at the polls.
March 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now that this story is dead. Can you folks at TPM talk about this a little?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-03-06-clinton-library-foia_N.htm
March 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. Bill Bradley was talking yesterday (I think--each day seems like an eternity) about what is up with all the pardons. They need more surrogates out there talking about Hillary's record (and/or lack thereof).
March 7, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I second that!
March 7, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also, it's obvious that Powers will come back in to Obama's campaign if he wins the nomination. Nothing about this is permanent.
March 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now we wait to see and wait for Mr. Wolfson's resignation.... Obama should attack Billary immediately if this does not happen and hammer on the issue that a individual in your camp resigned.
March 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now we wait to see and wait for Mr. Wolfson's resignation.... Obama should attack Billary immediately if this does not happen and hammer on the issue that a individual in your camp resigned.
March 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now we wait to see and wait for Mr. Wolfson's resignation.... Obama should attack Billary immediately if this does not happen and hammer on the issue that a individual in your camp resigned.
March 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this is an example of the clear difference in the type of politics Obama is advocating versus Clinton and the rest. He is still a politician no doubt, but there's a refreshing feeling I get when he and his campaign owns up to a mistake immediately. That commands respect in my opinion.
March 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I agree with you. Of course, the MSM won't report it this way, but his campaign (and Ms. Power) handled this with integrity and class. Which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for the Clinton bunch.
March 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hella lot more than one can say for the majority of campaigns that I have experienced in my short life!
March 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really really liked her too. I'm sad.
Someone has to be brave enough to drive a wooden stake into the dark lady's heart.
March 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is great news for monsters.
March 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
pure genius ...
March 7, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unbelievable. After all the nasty lies and bullshit that has come out of the Hillary campaign, and from the very top, Obama has to lose one of his top advisors just because she said, OFF THE RECORD, that Hillary is a monster??
What bullshit.
March 7, 2008 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've had up to hear with HRC.
Most of my fellow volunteers that have been working on Sen. Obama's behalf will not vote for HRC in the fall.
Not that it will come down to that anyhow.
YES WE CAN!!!
SI SE PUEDE!!!
KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!
March 7, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
She was just being honest. Hillary IS a MONSTER! I am not a part of the Obama campaign so I will not resign and I can not be fired. And I am not about to apologize for telling the truth!
March 7, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does anyone think that this may all be orchestrated? Look, I am an Obama guy, but I think that all of this is a bit convenient. A universally well respected advisor says something to a non-MSM publication that many people want to hear Obama say: that Hillary is in this for Hillary - no matter what the cost to the party and GE. It gets some air play, many people (myself included) agree and talk about it, then Obama magnanimously accepts the resignation of someone who will be an advisor to his NSC. He looks good, the public gets a glimpse at how pissed off the Obama campaign is, and people talk about how selfish and dividing Hillary is.
Plausible?
March 7, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
It sounds pretty conspiracy-ish but I was actually thinking exactly the same thing.
Notice anything? Who's the media reporting about now? The media's tone in the past 3 days has changed significantly from the week leading up to the March 4th primaries.
I mean, it could just be good gamesmanship, taking advantage of situations as they present themselves.
But a small part of me wants this all to be orchestrated.
March 7, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama gets a E for effort in keeping focus on this crazy campaign. We aren't hearing any more momentum, and other cutesy phrases from them. Good for him because rumors were flying that his camp was imploding on 3 losses and questioned his ability to lead at tough moments.
March 7, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not ready for Prime-Time. Seems he has a big problem with who he associates himself with.
March 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, Pulitzer winners should be avoided at all costs.
March 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hate that she quit. Hate it. That's the problem with Democrats, liberals, whoever the hell we are. If this was Bush, he would have said my girl apologized, she made a mistake, now get over it. This idea that somehow now Clinton is going to be placated is absurd. This is victory and she knows it. Her camp, and Clinton herself, will continue to say outlandish things (essentially it's me or McCain, folks).
Samantha Power is brilliant, a dynamic, bright, engaged woman. I think her resignation is terrible, I am extremely disappointed that Obama either ordered it or approved it - it sends the message to both Clinton and McCain that he will fold, that he's just another Democratic pushover. Does anyone see McCain stepping away from that wacko Hagee? And he is awful! And the fact that McCain isn't sends a message of confidence and power. He might eventually be forced to, but if he hasn't yet....
Damn. When are our people going to learn?? They've got to be macho. Clinton sure is. And people like it.
March 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's so macho about whining over every petty insult?
March 7, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
glecharles:
"Politics is an ugly game that would rather suffocate "hope" in its crib than aspire to something better. Shame."
Well said! Wow. And you are also exactly right about the Chelsea comment. That was MEAN. As in, only a truly mean-spirited person could ever say such a thing. As a mother, that's the one brand of personal comment I'd never forget...all political games aside. It crosses a line.
March 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
A bit draconian for some harmless, obviously emotional, remarks for which an apology would have sufficed. Still, I guess it's better that it be a nonissue. Hope she has a brilliant career in the Obama administration!
March 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's just pissed because Power revealed her secret identity.
March 7, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you want to take a look at the person Hillary's vindictiveness and desperation just steamrolled, check out this post, by Samantha Power herself from just a few days ago:
http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/post/27610653
March 7, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is great news for monsters.
That's exactly wrong. This is a terrible day for all Monster-Americans, who are tired of being demonized by stigmatizing attacks like this. Only the Demons should be demonized. They don't mind, anyway-- they're demons.
That aside, I don't think Samantha Power's resignation is sufficient. I think Howard Wolfson should spend the next three news cycles insisting that Obama denounce and reject her as well, in order to demonstrate that he's passed the commander-in-chief threshold that Hillary crossed in 1993.
March 7, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a dope you have proven out to be.
Hackery doesn't really become you.
March 7, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Frankly0 should know. Nobody does hackery better than Frankly0. You, Mr Bérubé, should feel like the first-year conservatory student whose piece was just dismissed by Rachmaninov as banal. That said, do not feel too bad. Frankly0 has a natural talent at hackery and it is only natural that the rest of us will not be able to live up to his exalted standards.
March 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds like Power is now officially qualified to get a job at MSNBC smearing Hillary!
March 7, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
It really sucks when a news outlet doesn't bow down to Sen. Hillary and actually reports the news, doesn't it?
This bit of news was especially enlightening.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/6/22261/01334/914/470968
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOLEK2lr3CM
(Wow, only 300 views this morning, already up to 4,300. The truth is out there.)
March 7, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ms. Power did what she had to do -- avoid becoming a distraction. And it's probably no big deal -- she has a cell number or two, and she can come back onboard in a couple of weeks when Obama's clinched the nomination. It's not like any Republicans are going to ask for her head for calling Sen. Clinton a monster...
March 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Point for Obama:
1) Hillary looks weak for being so easily offended.
2) Obama keeps the high ground.
3) Obama doesn't appear to have caved in, because Powers "resigned."
March 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
1)Hillary looks weak for being so easily offended.
Exactly. My first thought was, "Do we really want such a thin-skinned person to be the leader of this country?"
March 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
the comments here are just vicious.
Too many ugly Americans here. Bleh!
March 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was such a mindless and infernally silly thing to do, that I can't help thinking it's probably just as well she resigned. I'm sorry for her and for the Obama campaign, but they did what they had to do.
I'm sure that won't stop Hillary from bitching and whining about it for the rest of the campaign, though.
March 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
What Hillary Clinton did or didn't call for had nothing to do with the decision Samantha made. Come on, that's ridiculous.
Also the statement "In an interview with The Scotsman, Power called Hillary a monster."
That's not true. She didn't call Hillary that during an interview. She said that in an off the record comment which the reporter didn't have the decency to honor.
March 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I want to point out that I think the type of accusation here is really what brought on the necessity of resignation. If Power had simply said "Hillary has proven that she'll stoop to anything to win and cares more about her nomination than about the health of the Democratic party," the story would be very different. We would have Hillary taking umbrage, but also being put on the defensive. Unfortunately, calling Clinton a "monster" is a soundbyte that is both vitriolic and a far cry from substantive or legitimate criticism. It's also extremely unprofessional, and flies in the face of the positive, reprieve-from-politics-as-usual campaign that Obama has made the centerpiece of his candidacy.
I'm glad Power is out of the Obama camp, because that squelches this issue here and now. Obama, if he plays his cards right, can spin this as an example of how committed he is to running a positive campaign. And it's not going to be hard for Power to come if Obama wins the nomination.
March 7, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a gyp. Power was a definitely an intellectual asset to the Obama campaign.
Man, what Hillary as President if Chavez started riffing on her? Demand the UN fire him?
BO needs to get a hold on the ridiculousness coming out the HRC campaign or he is going to continue to get beat up. But, like have been saying, he shouldn't fight ridiculousness with ridiculousness, but with contempt - a side-to-side comparison the BS that the HRC is wasting its time on and the issues that are really at stack.
March 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
This Just In!
Cookie Monster Disavows Clinton "Monster" Comment!
"I've known some monsters in my time. She's so not like us! Frankly, I'm insulted! I think Ms. Powers needs to get out and meet some real monsters."
March 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROFL!!
March 7, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
So maybe he has learned a little from his failure to rebuke Jesse Jackson, Jr for his Katrina remark and learned from Hillary's example with Billy Shaheen?
And no, I don't think Samantha made a slip of the tongue -- I think she leaked something about the behind the scenes tenor of the entire Obama campaign.
It is of a part with Obama's sneering answer that Clinton was 'nice enough.'
March 7, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
'Likable enough'. I didn't think he was sneering. I thought he was trying to take 'likability' off the table, it had no place at a debate on issues, on policy, and on merits.
March 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm devastated. From a narrow political point of view, this was the best thing for the campaign and it keeps the story from dragging on for days and days.
From a longer term perspective, though, Samantha Power is one of the most brilliant foreign policy minds operating today, and her connection with the Obama campaign was one of the strongest signals that this would be a president of extraordinary judgement and leadership on the world stage. The resignation is probably the right thing, but we are all a little worse off today than we were yesterday. This was a woman who could have been a phenomenal asset to our country. I hope she will still have the opportunity to do so.
March 7, 2008 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wouldn't sweat it. Once the primary season is over (in Clinton's mind, that is -- mathematically, it already is over), Power will be back, and be playing a role in the Obama administration with regards to foreign policy. I have no doubt of it.
March 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sadly this was the only move to keep a news-starved media from jumping all over this. Obama firing her would've just made him look like he was bending to Clinton's will.
March 7, 2008 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bad news for Obama campaign. What a screw up.
Lesson for other campaigns: never talk to the Scotsman
I guess it's hard to prove whether or not Clinton is actually a "monster." Powers should have just called her a b*tch instead. No refuting that one.
March 7, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
LFL:
"Damn. When are our people going to learn?? They've got to be macho. Clinton sure is. And people like it."
Your argument is a really good one...but I still cling to the idea that Obama is trying to do something different than Bush, McCain and Clinton with their aggressive bully tactics. I fear you might be right that it's won't work...but then again, we're all pretty sick of the mud-slinging.
Obama just needs to make it clear that he can be critical and aggressive with important issues once he's in the White House. There has to be a better way to show this than by attacking and bullying people for stupid petty things during a campaign. I think he'll find a way.
March 7, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I don't know if this is smart. Now she is gonna ask for the resignation every time somebody says "Hillary has wrinkles".
Seriously, he does not have to get nastier,but tougher. Read the article by Jonathan Chait in the New Republic. Forget about the math the delegates and so on. The math says that she can't even get close. So what she will do? Destroy him with negative attacks so by Convention time he is inelectable. So I think the only thung left is show her hypocrisy at this time, with Nafta, with Retzco, with everything. When she and her campaign attacks Barack, instead of getting defensive, remind of the people who is talking. They lied to you before, they are gonna do it again.
March 7, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I don't know if this is smart. Now she is gonna ask for the resignation every time somebody says "Hillary has wrinkles".
Well, let her! The smaller and whinier she looks, the more presidential Obama becomes by comparison.
March 7, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is ridiculous. I posted an entry in my blog about this topic:
http://swimmingfreestyle.typepad.com/swimming_freestyle/2008/03/suck-it-up-hill.html
An excerpt:
Jeez, Senator Clinton, this is starting to look like pro wrestling here. Lots of drama, hammy acting and over exaggerated responses to what all observing can plainly see are pulled punches and minor blows.
Suck it up Senator. Is this what you think is "tough enough" to be President of the United States? What are you going to do if you're elected, call for the firing of anyone who calls you a bad name?
March 7, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
please don't whore your blog here
March 7, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is being a bully. All bullies are cowards. Personally, I'm sorry that they gave in this time (tho maybe it is for the best), but I trust Obama is carefully constructing a nice big *legitimate* scare -- so that when she reacts hysterically and/or by running for the hills, folks can no long avoid seeing what she is (and isn't) made of. Why they haven't realized by now, I have no idea, but obviously a number of them haven't.
March 7, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I keep thinking the obama camp needs to wrap this up in 'straight shooter' messaging. Straight shooters sometimes say inappropriate things 'but at least they're straight shooters'. Seems to work for lots of other people.
Resignation is the weakest possible way out of this. He should have either fired her or stood up for her. Either would have shown resolve.
March 7, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting.
Why fire someone who says nasty things about a political opponent?
The only good reason, and one in keeping with Mr. Obama's campaign theme and demeanor, is to maintain a sort of harmony. Other political opponents of HRC have called her much worse, with much more vituperation, and without a hint of restraint or remorse.
But the harmony in the Democratic party exists only on the surface. Even that harmony, in part, exists only because of a universal hatred of George Bush and the Republican party.
Had HRC's campaign been more interested in a united Democratic party, they would have ignored the monster comment or, at most, forgiven it. Instead, seeing an opening, HRC's campaign attacks mercilessly ... as any good predator would do.
Three weeks ago, I strongly preferred Sen. Obama but would have accepted Sen. Clinton. Now, having seen her emulate the Rovian tactics decent people abhor -- from siding with McCain to insinuating that Sen. Obama may be a clandestine Muslim, I've lost all respect for her.
If HRC wins and governs as she runs her campaign, then she presents little alternative to the Republicans.
March 7, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, nice move to cut her loose.
But in the frickin Sargent post, he describes her as Obama's Svengali.
Dude, what up with that?
Here's the definition of Svengali (answers. com - okay i'm internetting but i'm sure websters is similar)
Svengali. n. A person who, with evil intent, tries to persuade another to do what is desired.
March 7, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
What can Hillary possibly do to make Obama unelectable? and what will she do that the Repuiblican's won't do 10 times over?
I have never seen such a thin skinned campaign (or supporters) as Obama's, though Hillary's running a close second.
March 7, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: How does this not look like a cave-in by Obama?
My recommendation for Obama:
Quickly show that you are decisive--a man of action and principle. Show that you are a capable executive and a leader.
Don't duck this--make a videoed announcement about this today! Make this a demonstration of how you oppose political derisiveness.
Praise Power to skies, but make it very clear that YOU immediately felt when you first heard the comment that it was necessary that she resign immediately.
March 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see this as a two-edged sword. It is a loss for the Obama campaign but it may also free Samatha to be able to speak out much more forcefully against Hillary without the need to protect the Obama positive campaign strategy. It is certainly very much needed. She may be the strong female voice we've been looking for to speak out assertively and aggressively against Hillary.
March 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
adyacent:
"Seriously, he does not have to get nastier,but tougher."
You put your finger on it. Exactly. And he has to continue to be keenly aware of the difference between nasty and tough...which is a distinction the Clinton camp is starting to loose, unfortunately.
Sorry for all the quotes, BTW, but I see a lot of thoughtful, intelligent posts here and find it inspiring.
March 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
posted this in the other thread before i realized there was one post-resignation:
I'm disappointed in Obama because by quickly capitulating to the Clinton team's rabid demands, he makes himself look weak and plays into their hands. Samantha Power is a brilliant scholar and Pulitzer Prize winner. She's been thrown under the bus because of an offhand remark. Is our political system really so infantile as to force the resignation of an extraordinarily talented thinker because she called someone names?
He should have said something to the effect of: "Samantha Power shouldn't have said that, she's apologized, and in my campaign we recognize that people get stressed out and make unfortunate, off-the-cuff remarks. I think everyone has made a mistake like this before, and I'd ask the Clinton campaign to accept her sincere apologies, and let's move on and talk about the issues."
If he had said that and the Clinton people had kept it up they'd have started looking petty pretty damn quickly. Is he gonna run every time something negative comes up? He should have stood his ground and stood by one of his closest advisers. This does not bode well for how he handles pressure from the Clinton camp.
March 7, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Per the progressiver-than-thou wing of the Democratic Party posting here:
Calling a reference to Whitewater by the Obama campaign "a page from Ken Starr" = out of bounds.
Calling Hillary a monster = lighten up, after all, she really is one (laugh laugh wink wink).
Got it.
March 7, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you people ever get tired of agreeing with each other so much? You must have a little worry somewhere deep down. In less than 24 hours since your campaign has stated you are going to fight back, you stand today with egg on your face. If you don't want to be compared to Ken Starr I suggest you write a letter to David Axelrod and tell him not to bring up whitewater on tv the night you lose 3 states. Personally, I hope Obama keeps this tactic up. I watched every republican under the sun try to take down the Clinton's for 8 years. The result was He left office with a 60% approval rating and she was elected to the US Senate. Just something for all you guys to think about.
March 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary has said a whole hell of a lot worse than what Ms. Power's said, it's just that Hillary has the good political sense to couch those nasty thoughts in feminine speak, or as a female friend said to me once, "it's the power to call another girl a whore who would screw her own father in such a way that everyone thinks I'm just critizing her clothing choices."
What strikes me is that both Hillary and Obama are both wanting to be President in what will probably be the most challenging Presidency ever.
Granted, the bar for comparison is set pretty damn low, so anything the next President does that is quarter-of-the-way good for the country would be seen as a gift of "Brilliant Leadership!"
but really...look at what the next President is inheriting.
A recession, high joblessness rate, depressed dollar, huge trade deficit, we're in a war in a nation that is bleeding us white, the price of energy is off the charts, and we're not even in the peak summer months yet...we, as a nation, are seriously screwed ladies and gentlemen.
And to be perfectly honest, the most we can hope from the next President in regards to the ship of state is that they get us out of the stormy sea and beach us in a harbor.
And this is where my problem with Hillary and Obama is at...they're both farting fantasies, and of them have not admitted that the most their going to be able to accomplish in their first four years is to stop the national hemorrhaging that is currently happening in our country.
reality trumps campaign promises.
March 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
OPM members ('Obama Points Memo' - for those of you not part of the cabal):
Would you like some cheese with your whine?
Can't you see the writing on the wall yet?
It ended in Texas.
March 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROTFLMAO! Is that what you Hill-Aid drinkers over at Hillaryis44.com are telling each other now? Thanks for the laugh, but if I had a buck for every time some Hillaroid drone has appeared on the viewscreen and solomnly "Resistance is futile!" over the last year, I'd be able to retire in style.
March 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
It ended in Texas!? Are you high? She still doesn't lead in any aspect of the Nomination process. Wow, the Clinton campaign really has gone off the deep end. Do you guys really believe this?
March 7, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sucks when someone gets fired for speaking the truth. Happens all to often these days.
March 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everytime something like this happens, I think, what would Ronald Reagan do? You see the difference? So yes, she's that petty, and this is a preview of coming attractions for the GE campaign, and how she would govern. It's all high dudgeon and righteous indignation, with virtually no energy to spare for motivating a positive vision. In short, she's a classic reactionary and it was a significant contributing factor to why health care reform died under her watch. Read the New Yorker profile of her.
This isn't exactly how I would have reacted if I were BHO, but Power is probably better off gone if she is that combustible.
March 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have no problem with academics shaping and informing foreign policy. It is imperative. But was Power really the lynch pin of Obama's foreign policy positions? If so, Obama is in trouble. Does she have any national security and foreign policy experience outside of her research? Is she a Middle East expert? What experience does she have with US - China relations?
March 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obviously Power's not too bright when it comes to the Scottish.
March 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is good news, but not as good as if Obama had actually removed her from his counsel (at least for now). Why? As I said in a previous thread, this as an opportunity for him to show himself as a "take charge" kind of guy. By waiting for Clinton to attack, and for Power to resign, he has shown a certain degree of passivity that does not help his cause.
You know, the Chinese say, "In every crisis there is opportunity." By letting Power resolve the issue Obama lost the opportunity to show himself as meeting his own standards of the "new politics."
Having said that I am willing to believe that Obama gave Power the opportunity to step aside rather than have him publicly rebuke her, but of course we cannot know that.
Now all the cries for Wolfson's resignation is fair enough, but tit-for-tat politics is not what Obama is supposed to be about, and we should not let tit-for-tat be the standard here.
Obama has promised us the new way to do politics and this is a good sign. The ball is now in Hillary's court to show that she can also play fair. Don't hold your breath though.
March 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
And so even Obama's closest advisers are so inept and inexperienced and out of control that they can't make it through a political campaign without having to resign. Everybody realizes that Obama himself is a foreign policy naif, and now his top foreign policy adviser is thrown off the campaign because she behaves like a complete child.
It's the Keystone Kops or the Children's Crusade -- your choice.
What does all this say about Obama's judgment, if this is the sort of thing his closest adviser on foreign policy does?
March 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now I really have to salute Frankly0 here. So few folks take this kind of pride in their work anymore. There are plenty of clownish, dizzying attempts at spin on this thread, but Frankly0 makes the rest of them look like the amateurs that they are. Compared to the other jokers on this thread, Frankly0 stands out like a King among peasants. Well done, sir, well done indeed.
March 7, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Calling Hillary a monster was a little off the mark.
Hillary is more of a lying, conniving, hypocritical, Lieberdem pile of soulless reptile sh*t.
Thankfully, for those of us at wit's end over TPM's continued Clinton fluffage, Olbermann is dropping the clown hammer on these rats. And Olbermann wields a much bigger megaphone than Greg.
March 7, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Samantha Power is a brilliant, courageous and outside-the-box thinker on foreign policy and human rights. Let's hope there will be a prominent role for her in an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama administration.
March 7, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Per the progressiver-than-thou wing of the Democratic Party posting here:
Calling out the Obama campaign for using a page out of Ken Starr's playbook for using references to Whitewater = out of bounds.
Calling Hillary a monster = Lighten up (after all, she really IS one laugh laugh wink wink).
Got it.
March 7, 2008 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I could be wrong about this, but aren't they calling Obama Ken Starr because he's calling for Clinton to release her tax returns just as he has already done? If that's the reason for calling him Ken Starr, then that's just an attempt to resist calls for transparency with an ad hominem. She's not rebutting the request on its merits but through misdirection.
March 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope Obama releases a statement demanding Wolfson's firing in response.
March 7, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meanwhile, Senator Hillary Clinton has been going around French Kissing John McCain on a daily basis.
McCain is getting more tongue from Hillary than Bill ever did.
She is kissing and hugging John McCain more than Bush ever did with Lieberman. Speaking of which; he is also in the McCain hugger ranks right along side Hillary.
Hillary Rodham keeps on endorsing John McCain over Senator Obama. That makes her an absolute traitor to our party. She is no longer a Democrat, if The Goldwater Girl really ever was. She loves those Republican Senators from Arizona.
County Mayo gave the world the word Boycott, and in 2004 Connecticut gave us a new word.
Hillary is not a Democrat. She is a traitor to the party. She is openly endorsing a Republican over a fellow Democrat, and therefore she does not belong in the party, so I urge you all to Lieberman Her out of our party.
Never leave a back stabbing traitor in your midst.
Lieberman her out of the party that she is betraying.
March 7, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
As is sometimes said in Texas, "It ain't braggin' if it's true." HRC may not be a "monster," but she is definitely somewhere over the line in the Dark Side. That said, the Obama campaign is in a bit of a fix when it comes to attacking HRC. It can't stoop to its opponents level and still maintain its new politics theme. However, if Obama doesn't give tit for tat, he diminishes his chances of prevailing. If he does go toe to toe with HRC, will his idealistic supporters (myself included) continue to support him? Since I don't see any way HRC can accomplish any of her campaign goals given how the Republicans feel about the Clintons, I say Obama should pull out all the stops. If he goes negative, he might not win, but if he doesn't he surely will not prevail.
March 7, 2008 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Schmedley, it is not about how she looks. If she goes about how she looks she knows she lost already. It is about destroying Obama, pure and simple, and as nasty as it sounds. That is why I said Obama has to refuse to be destroyed. And he has to show strength
March 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Schmedley, it is not about how she looks.
I beg to differ. It's all about how she looks. An election (in this country, anyway) is really just an appearence management game. If it were all about policy and experience and johnny-on-the-spot readiness, then Clinton would have nothing to gain by going negative. By using scare tactics and and petty squabbling, she's not appealing to intellect; she's merely trying to make her opponent look bad (or worse than she does, at least). For a large number of voters (in OH and TX, for example), buying into appearences is so much easier than questioning the picture being offered by the opposing candidate.
If Clinton starts revealing more and more of her true self, then some of those who are moved by appearence will start to notice--and may not like what they see (although I'm sure that a fair number do, regardless of how reprehensible it is. After all, some people really like dog fights and geek shows too).
March 7, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps I'm overly-sensitive, but Powers did say that her comments were off the record. Now, I know that "the rules" are that one has to say that before one begins their comments, but for the love of Pete, she was in the middle of her first sentence when she said it. Further, The Scotsman reported what she said after that phrase, and after she said it was off the record.
I know the press really enjoys "gotcha!" journalism, and I know they love giving us a look inside a campaign, but am I the only one to whom this seems over the top? It's not like she ranted on for 20 minutes and then said, "That was all off the record;" she said "She is a monster, too -- that is off the record -- she is stooping to anything."
If the press wonders why politicians and their surrogates speak in nothing but bland banalities, that's why. The press complains that no one in politics ever says anything of interest and then, the moment someone slips, they shout it from the rooftops and said person gets the boot.
(And they wonder why more young people don't want to get into politics. Who on Earth would want that kind of scrutiny?)
March 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Penn is the Mad Hatter.
March 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
What courage! What fearlessness in the face of adversity! Could anyone doubt Hillary’s readiness to serve as commander-in-chief? World leaders, beware! Once Hillary is president, don’t even think about calling her a sanctimonious poopy-head or she will demand your resignation!
March 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, this is the right reaction:
"yes, Ms. Power should not have said that because name calling is unkind and just distracts from the bigger issues, but do you think a president is going to be effective if he is in perpetual meltdown mode everytime someone says something mean about her? Is this one of the reasons HRC couldn't get health care reform done the first time around . . ."
March 7, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
U.S. Deaths Confirmed By The DoD:
3974
Only monsters like Bush and Hillary Clinton would allow this to happen.
March 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, there goes one of my biggest reasons for supporting Obama, giving me in the process, another reason to despise Hillary, her divisive approach to politics, the media, and this whole stupid, trite, shallow, tragically pathetic country.
March 7, 2008 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry but this is total BS. As an observer from afar over the years I've seen Ms. Powers take stands, confront, and actually try to work on some of the hardest issues out there (like Genocide).
She uses one emotional laced adjective in the heat of battle and immediately tries to correct it while it happened and with an apology after the fact. Of course that's not enough and she is set to the fire by the Clinton campaign. They did call for her resignation right? It's how they roll folks!
Way to score points by sticking to policy Hillary! Anybody or anything is fair game if it advances your numbers? You could have won over more Democrats by taking the high road.
Like,
"I'm sure Samantha Powers was over excited when she made that comment. She has years of fighting for the big issues...."
or when Cross asked you that question on 60 Minutes:
"I find premise of the question offensive."
But she didn't and she doesn't.
Now Obama (and The Democrats) lose a highly qualified and committed person. Bravo. Score one for??
This is exactly the type of distraction based political discourse we can expect in a Hillary based administration and exactly what separates Barack from her.
Keep your head high Samantha Powers!
March 7, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
forget the name calling. who is advising Obama on foreign policy? and what exactly was Power's alleged expertise? She is an expert on genocide and since she has shown that the US has never sufficiently engaged in efforts to halt genocide, it seems that she is a rookie on the major issues that guide US policy. I am not saying that US policy should not be guided by more idealism.
March 7, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this is a loss and you are oversimplifying the mind that Samantha Power brings to the table. If you have read her work you would understand that she has done more than just work on genocide. Her studies involve intricate analysis of the decision making processes within many levels of government that lead to the actual foreign policy decisions carried out. Your statements overgeneralize her expertise. The loss of Samantha Powers is disheartening. Furthermore, I am concerned with the underlying assumption of your statements...How will we get new blood in the foreign policy establishment if we don't give new entrance?
March 7, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
liam says:
"McCain is getting more tongue from Hillary than Bill ever did."
"[Hillary is] a back stabbing traitor."
Looks like he is angling for Powers' vacated spot on the Obama Love Train Campaign.
March 7, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
What I said in full:
Meanwhile, Senator Hillary Clinton has been going around French Kissing John McCain on a daily basis.
McCain is getting more tongue from Hillary than Bill ever did.
She is kissing and hugging John McCain more than Bush ever did with Lieberman. Speaking of which; he is also in the McCain hugger ranks right along side Hillary.
Hillary Rodham keeps on endorsing John McCain over Senator Obama. That makes her an absolute traitor to our party. She is no longer a Democrat, if The Goldwater Girl really ever was. She loves those Republican Senators from Arizona.
County Mayo gave the world the word Boycott, and in 2004 Connecticut gave us a new word.
Hillary is not a Democrat. She is a traitor to the party. She is openly endorsing a Republican over a fellow Democrat, and therefore she does not belong in the party, so I urge you all to Lieberman Her out of our party.
Never leave a back stabbing traitor in your midst.
Lieberman her out of the party that she is betraying.
March 7, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
It really is too sad that Power was forced to resign for her careless remark.
I wish that Obama could and would refuse to accept it and simply tell HRC to suck it up. Or better, that he simply ask HRC's pardon for the slight and suggest that they move on.
As it is I think it petty and short term point scoring on HRC's part and that having made her complaint HRC should have accepted gracefully Ms. Powers apology, heat of battle, all that.
Plus I believe that HRC's campaign would have been better served by a show of tactical, if not actual, generosity.
Whatever else can be said about HRC her gracelessness is one of her less endearing points and she needs to ameliorate that.
Despite the Clinton camaign's spin the fault really does lie in herself and not the stars. Nor Obama.
March 7, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Short term point scoring really does sum it up. But hey, she's a "fighter."
March 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a very fair assessment JTHB--kudos.
March 7, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
How soon does Hillary call for Barack to divorce Michelle for her comments?
Politics ain't beanbag.
March 7, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any word on how this is playing with her monster base?
March 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is ridiculous.
How is calling Hillary Clinton a monster any worse than Howard B.S. Wolfson saying Obama is like Ken Starr or Hillary saying Obama is unfit to be commander in chief?
At least Samantha Power's insult was the result of an intemperate moment when her anger briefly got the best of her. By contrast, Wolfson's and Clinton's insults were part of a premeditated campaign strategy.
Yet somehow, Power is out, while Wolfson continues to peddle lies and distortions and Hillary keeps on throwing the mud and helping our her good friend, John McCain.
March 7, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just getting this straight: it's acceptable to insinuate that Obama is a literal "drug-dealing Muslim" but it's unacceptable to insinuate that Clinton is behaving monstrously in a figurative sense.
Got it. No double standard here, no siree.
March 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
The whole Samanatha Power thing is very very sad. She is one brilliant and righteous lady, something Hillary Clinton will never be. What's worse, the HRC campaign demanded her resignation – and got it. Really a bad start to the necessity of Obama showing some balls.
And let's face it: Hillary Clinton is a monster. You know, I’ve always detested HRC and BJC, because of how they sold out on everything the Democratic Party ever stood for, back in the 90s. But I began to truly hate her last night. I watched Chris Matthews(always a mistake) and Keith Olbermann, and I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Not so much the Ken Starr remark, because everyone knows that Howard Wolfson is a pimp. What did it for me was that fascist news conference she held, backed by all these generals and admirals, and 100 flags. And the look on her face whenever she spoke about Obama, just this hateful, disdainful snarl. She obviously has decided – because of the “politically backward” nature of the upcoming states(PA, WV, Kentucky and Indiana) to try and move the Democratic campaign strongly to the right. When she ranked McCain above her fellow party member Obama last week, it seemed to be just one of those off-the-cuff mistakes candidates make. How naïve can you get? During her militarist conference yesterday, she repeated that charge over and over. It really felt like an very ugly version of Scarlett O’Hara ordering Big Sam back to the plantation fields. The mask was taken off yesterday, and she really is a monster.
March 7, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Commenters, you're right about the word "svengali." I meant "guru." Please see my update and my apology
March 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah don't worry gregg. You are just repeating republican talking points and obviously you are sexist.
March 7, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
re: "my apology"
Hardly an apology.
With the bitterness and hostility you so frequently show here -- especially when corrected by readers -- I have to wonder if you really like what you are doing at TPM or maybe if you'd be happier in a "push" media forum such as print or radio/TV where you don't have to deal with direct feedback from readers.
Until your tone lightens up -- remember you are the paid professional here -- I have to assume this is not the right medium for you.
March 7, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Power's words have cost her, with regards to her own stellar reputation. However, they have given Obama an opportunity to prove to the super delegates that he is immediately decisive, and willing to give up a brilliant, important figure in his campaign to further the message that negativity will not be tolerated, and that he is indeed in full control and above the fray. The resignation is for the super delegates, not for the Clinton campaign, not for the undecided voters, and not for media fodder.
March 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's a pattern developing here that should be really disturbing, to those who call themselves "liberals" rather than "Democrats".
Senator Clinton demands the resignation or suspension of those who make ill-advised or negative comments about her or her family.
She doesn't graciously accept an apology. She wants scalps.
Political discourse can get regrettably ugly, in a free society. One would assume anyone running for President would expect some gaffes.
Demanding the resignation or suspension of dissenters is not a great harbinger for the Clinton II Presidency.
I'm baffled why so called liberals support her. Nothing she does is even remotely "liberal". There's an authoritarian streak in Senator Clinton that is worrisome. Anyone who believes she'll run her White House differently than she runs this campaign is, I'm afraid, kidding themselves.
March 7, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
C'mon now fellow...
You don't want him to look like a sissy do you?
March 7, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
If y'all that the 'monster'-comment by Ms Power was bad, wait 'till you get a load of this (and the REAL reason she resigned):
http://thepage.time.com/2008/03/07/power-shocker-ii-adviser-pulls-back-on-obama-iraq-pledge/
That's right, a prominent Obama adviser who just blurts out that maybe Obama's promise of pulling out of Iraq should be taken with a grain of salt.
Hmmmm.
NAFTA? We got advisers speaking soothing words to worried Canadians.
Iraq? Well, we're making promises to the primary voters but hey, once Obama is president, who knows what he'll do?
This campaign is going to implode due to naivete and pure, unadulterated amateurism. Had this been the general, with Obama being up against the GOP, he would have been torn apart.
March 7, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
zzzzzzzzzzz
Mark Halperin is a Clinton lackey, and anyone who thinks Power's statement isn't true is irrational to the highest order.
Any real plan is going to be made with full access to classified information.
This is a non-story, although I'm sure Clinton will spin it as otherwise. Not that it matters. Powers no longer speaks for Obama anyhow.
March 7, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean like what Clinton people have been saying?
http://www.nysun.com/article/72209?page_no=1
Wow, it's such naivete and unadulterated amateurism to say things like, the withdrawal will be responsible or they need to look at silly little things like facts at the time.
Oh, and the NAFTA thing, you need to keep up with the news. It was apparently the Clinton camp who actually reached out and funnily enough said it exactly as you do - take their rhetoric with a grain of salt.
March 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Too bad, Obama should have told the Clintons to "deal with it." She is a monster in my book. Powers made the mistake of telling the truth in public.
March 7, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looking forward to December 2008 when Obama announces Ms Powers appointment to Secretary of State. I hope Sen Clinton will be on the committee that votes to approve the nominee.
March 7, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder how Senator Clinton will deal with citizen dissent?
Not graciously, I imagine.
She's awfully quick to demand sanctions on speakers.
Only those who oppose her, however.
March 7, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
This echo chamber is like an alternate universe.
There is no way to get around the basic facts. A senior adviser to Sen. Obama, using exceptionally bad judgment, called HRC a "monster" and, when her apology did not defuse the sitaution, she resigned. Its significant because (i) Power was Obama's Condi Rice; (ii) Obama has been accused of being weak on foreign policy and THIS overwrought profane academic is the one person he turns to for advice; (iii) it comes on the heels of yet another foreign policy blunder by yet another inexperienced academic advising Obama (Canada/NAFTA); and (iv) Sen. Obama touts his superior judgment and THIS is the kind of key adviser we might expect in an Obama cabinet.
March 7, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Richmond, there are 53 dead today in a bombing in Iraq.
Senator Clinton, despite her convoluted and inane denials, supported that invasion.
Yet, she has spent an entire day getting this woman fired, based on an affront to her enormous ego.
Let's talk foreign policy, shall we? Let's ask Senator Clinton to address that ongoing debacle she supported in Iraq, until it became politically advantageous NOT to support it.
I for one am sick to death of the massive Clinton ego, and I don't plan on stroking her. 53 dead. Does Senator Clinton have anything rational to say about that?
March 7, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gee, you're right. I would much rather have to listen to and see the upstanding and honest wolfson and penn for the next 4 years. Now those two are some upstanding honest citizens.
March 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has been accused of being weak on foreign policy and THIS overwrought profane academic is the one person he turns to for advice...
LOL... You want overwrought? Try your label of "profane academic"--that's overwrought. Unbunch your knickers and get some perpsective; you can call Powers a lot of things but "profane" is just just too disingenuous by half.
You got her head; take it home and put it on a pike (along with your faux outrage which you can put somewhere else).
March 7, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you kidding?
Powers is an "overwrought profane academic"?
Profane? Since when is the word "monster" considered profanity? As I mentioned up-thread, I could understand if she launched a C-bomb, or even a B-bomb, but "monster"? Give me a break.
This kind of manufactured outrage is another trick out of the right-wing Rovian handbook.
And you might want to re-check the facts on your point (iii). Turns out it was the Clinton campaign who told the Canadians, 'wink-wink, this is just politics'. But if you have friends in the government up there, apparently you can get them to leak that it was Obama saying that. I guess that's the value of "experience".
-- ARG
March 7, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
This has me so made I could just spit. Hillary is ready on Day 1 and the only one ready to be commander in chief - besides McSame of course - but she cries and demands a resignation when she's called a name. I'm a woman and find this terribly demeaning to womankind. Grow up.
Her campiagn officially referred to Obama as another Ken Starr. Whatever, they just laughed at her. I don't call that out of bounds...it's silly.
March 7, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good riddance to bad rubbish. Another of Barack's crybabies out of the way. Maybe if there's enough housekeeping between now and November he'll actually have one or two grown-ups on his staff. Maybe.
March 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's make some noise and demand Wolfson's resignation. And Penn's. And anybody else who has made any offensive remarks about Obama. Let's gather every offensive remark any of Hillary's Asshat Brigade has ever made and demand their resignations.
This is beyond absurd. Hillary is beneath contempt. She will never, ever, ever, get my vote for anything. I may move to New York just to vote against her for Senate. Primary challenge anyone.
I really really like Samantha Power and this really really pisses me off. Hillary, I once respected you. Now you have lost me -- for good. And I am sure I am not alone.
March 7, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really really like Samantha Power and this really really pisses me off. Hillary, I once respected you. Now you have lost me -- for good. And I am sure I am not alone.
Yeah, I dunno. Hillary pretty much lost me for good between NH and NV. Seems like a lifetime ago but it was actually less then eight weeks.
Hillary can't really dig herself any deeper with the class of people who follow these things closely.
It doesn't matter that David Shuster was a good reporter who kept the heat on during the Libby trial, it doesn't matter that Samantha Power is a brilliant analyst, all that matters is that they insulted poor Hillary. Which as we all know is the worst thing in the world.
It's pathetic. Can you imagine the news over the next 4/8 years if Hillary won? Every week a new outrage upon the presidents dignity. Does she think Ahmadinejad is going to let in UN Weapons inspectors if she whines about it, or that Medvedev get guilt-tripped into improving relations with the west?
Blah.
March 7, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shhhh. Are you trying to sabatoge obama's chances? Wolfson and penn are his secret weapons.
March 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ann Dunham -- Michelle Vaughn Robinson -- Samantha Power. Obama's raging females! Which Medusa shall be next?
March 7, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
My tribute to Samantha Power:
http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/post/28229790
March 7, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
So - a Dem - a brillian woman, has to resign because her highness can't take a punch?
What a waste. What bile. I hope this comes back and hits her so hard it makes her cry again.
March 7, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting how the lesson of this campaign recently has been "Don't talk to foreigners. Ever. They'll screw you any way they can".
March 7, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
In 32 years as a Democrat I never would have imagined myself so completely disgusted with one of our candidates as I am with Hillary Clinton. If she gets the nomination I not only won't vote for her but I'll leave the party and become an independent. I'll have nothing to do with this, yep, monster.
What a pathetic excuse for a political party the Democrats have become.
And what a pathetic excuse for human beings the Clintons are.
March 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
So you resigned, okay. Who was responsible for the sickening and rascist ad darkening the color of Obama's skin and broadening his nose? Find out, get an apology and get that person drawn, quartered and fired.
Man/Woman, I hate this part of the campaign.
March 7, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm really getting sick and tired of Obama's passivity in the face of the Clinton pile o' crap. Anybody for a brokered convention leading to an Edwards or Gore nomination? I'm on that bandwagon if it ever gets started.
March 7, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama = Karl Rove/Ken Starr/etc. KR/KS/etc. = monsters. Therefore, according to Clinton, Obama = a monster. Is Clinton going to resign her position within her campaign?
March 7, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
By the way, for all the people wringing their hands over her departure from the campaign, does anyone know the difference between an unpaid advisor with a day job and a former unpaid advisor with a day job who was forced to resign for bullshit reasons? The former is on the plane and the latter is on the phone.
March 7, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is exactly what I was thinking. So her name does not appear on his campaign lit any more; big deal. It is not as if he cannot still talk to her when he needs an expert opinion.
March 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary has endorsed John McCain over a fellow Democrat.
Here is a current example of the kind of leadership John McCain exhibits; Hillary endorses him every day now.
McCain Loses Cool With NY Times Reporter
March 07, 2008 12:44 PM
ABC News' Bret Hovell Reports: Senator John McCain grew agitated Friday with a New York Times reporter who asked about his 2004 conversation with then-Democratic nominee John Kerry about McCain possibly running as Kerry’s vice presidential nominee.
McCain was addressing reporters on his campaign plane flying between Atlanta and New Orleans. He had just come from a town hall style meeting in Atlanta, where he was asked by a member of the audience whether he might consider Kerry as his vice president, the way Kerry had considered McCain.
"No. No," McCain said in the town hall meeting. “We have very vastly different philosophical fundamental political views. I respect those views. I respect them, I just totally disagree with them.”
McCain continued: “When I was approached, when we had that conversation back in 2004, I mean that’s why I never even considered such a thing.”
On the plane, the Times’ Elisabeth Bumiller, asked McCain about that meeting, quoting a 2004 story in which McCain said the meeting hadn’t taken place. McCain responded forcefully, his displeasure on display, but never raising his voice, telling Bumiller: “there is no living American in Washington” who doesn’t know about that meeting.
Bumiller pressed on, and McCain insisted that she knew of the meeting as well.
“You know it too. You know it. So I don’t even know why you ask.”
The back and forth went on for nearly two minutes before Bumiller asked a question on another topic. At that point, McCain resumed his more typical demeanor.
The following is an ABC News transcript of the conversation:
New York Times correspondent Elisabeth Bumiller: Senator can I ask you about Senator Kerry. I just went back and looked at our story, the Times story, and you told Sheryl Stolberg that you had never had a conversation with Kerry about being, about Vice President –
John McCain: Everybody knows that I had a private conversation. Everybody knows that. That I had a conversation. There’s no living American in Washington -
EB: Okay.
McCain: - that knows that, there’s no one.
EB: Okay
McCain: And you know it too. You know it. You know it. So I don’t even know why you ask.
EB: Well I ask because I just read –-
McCain: You do know it. You do know it.
EB: Because I just read in the Times in May of ’04 you said.
McCain: I don’t know what you may have read or heard of, I don’t know the circumstances. Maybe in May of 04 I hadn’t had the conversation --
EB: But do you recall the conversation?
McCain: I don’t know, but it’s well known that I had the conversation. It is absolutely well known by everyone. So do you have a question on another issue?
EB: Well can I ask you when the conversation was?
McCain: No. Nope, because the issue is closed as far as I’m concerned. Everybody knows it. Everybody knows it in America.
EB: Can you describe the conversation?
McCain: Pardon me.
EB: Can you describe the conversation?
McCain: No, of course not. I don’t describe private conversations.
EB: Okay. Can I ask you –
McCain: Why should I? Then there’s no such thing as a private conversation. Is there (inaudible) if you have a private conversation with someone, and then they come and tell you. I don’t know that that’s a private conversation. I think that’s a public conversation.
EB. Okay. Can I ask you about your (pause) Why you’re so angry?
McCain: Pardon me?
EB: Nevermind, nevermind.
McCain: I mean it’s well known. Everybody knows. It’s been well chronicled a thousand times. John Kerry asked if I would consider being his running mate.
EB: Right.
McCain: And I said categorically no, under no circumstances. That’s all very well known.
EB: Okay, let me ask you… (moves on to another question.)"
There you have it folks. Hillary keeps endorsing this old jerk.
March 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Late Late Update: I used the word "svengali" to describe Power when I meant "guru." Words cannot express how sorry I am for this horrible insult. As a result, I am now resigning from this post and deeply regret any damage I did to it.
the Gregger's petulant sarcasm is EXCELLENT NEWS!!! FOR HILLARY!!!
March 7, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Idiotic, ROFLMAO! Priceless! Brilliant! :^)
March 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you Idiotic. I found Greg's "petulant sarcasm" obnoxious as well.
March 7, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
And good job Hillary, getting a smart successful woman FIRED from an important high profile job. So much for solidarity. Clinton could have accepted the apology and admited that campaigning is hard and people lose their temper..taken the high road...but noooooo...nail that woman for her off the record comments.
Clinton will do ANYTHING to win.
YES SHE WILL!
March 7, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's unfortunate that someone be fired for simply speaking the truth.
March 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every day my hate to Hillary grows.
March 7, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear John Marshall,
You are a fool.
-Hoost
March 7, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Josh's post on this is right on target. The issue is not what Power said, or what worse things have been said by people in the Clinton camp. The issue is that Obama's 'new politics' only work when all sides are playing that way. That day is not at hand. McCain is not going to play nice either when his back is up against the wall, no matter what he says now. Is Obama going to cave in to all the Republican manufactured outrage too, in the election, and, should he win, in his administration?
I do believe it is too late for Clinton to win this thing, but Obama needs to treat the next 3 months as a learning opportunity.
March 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
"overwrought, profane academic"....Sounds like it was written by an overwrought, profane asshole.
And to the other guy who called Power "bad rubbish"...It won't be long before the Democratic Party takes Hillary out to the curb. And stick around, we will need your help, since she is going to be heavy! Weighed down by that "lifetime of experience" and all.
By comparison, Barack is only carrying "a speech he gave in 2002", so if you want to take him out to the curb, he should be light as a feather. But then you would have to throw out all those pesky pledged delegates, and you know how Hillary is adamantly opposed to "disenfranchising" voters.
What a pickle!
March 7, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
If she really is Barack's Condi Rice, as David Kurtz says, good riddance indeed.
You guys are making way too much of this. Clinton doesn't have anybody rattled, as Josh says. People in both camps are making comments like this every hour. Power just made it to the wrong person at the wrong time.
I've seen this woman interviewed and was not impressed with anything but her sense of her own importance. She may be a fine writer and scholar, but if she made a comment like that -- and not overheard, mind you -- directly to a reporter, she's obviously too politically stupid to have around. Foreign policy advisers are a dime a dozen. They can be found in spades at any of 20 top-tier universities.
I've already forgotten this woman, and I imagine Obama has too.
March 7, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, she is not Obama's Condi Rice. That would be his other top foreign policy advisor Susan Rice (no relation), who said last week that Obama is not ready to take that 3am call.
March 7, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
What Rice said is that NONE of the candidates are ready to take the 3 A call. Not Hillary, not Obama, not McCain.
March 7, 2008 8:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good god, she did not endorse McCain. She said that he was qualified to be president on one issue - the one issue on which 90% of the country agrees he is qualified. Why hasn't Obama repsonded by restating his qualifications to be commander in chief? He should have that ad on continuous play on every network.
Obama's campaign has been so good up to now - what is going on? Can't they handle being the front-runner?
March 7, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't get why obama wants to compromise with republicans so much. Democrats stand to gain big this election. Democrats have been moving more to the center. They should start moving in the other direction. Obama seems ready to compromise (concede) very quickly - as in the present case of the resignation.
March 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I'm really getting sick and tired of Obama's passivity in the face of the Clinton pile o' crap."
I'm not so sure it's passivity. He just refuses to engage in this kind of ridiculous crap. If he'd stood up for Power, this would have wasted an entire weekend...or who knows what. I don't think that's his vision for the campaign. I think the resignation is, as others have said, a temporary technicality. The fastest way to end this story and move on.
Obama is trying to keep his sights on fighting McCain...which is exactly what a GE candidate should be doing. He needed to end this before it started so that real things can happen.
Although many seem to see her as running the show, I see Hillary more as standing in the middle of the road, jumping and screaming at everyone to pay attention to her as the bus to the general election drives away without her.
March 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
People from Ireland should never speak their minds in America. They can speak freely in Ireland, but in America, they claim that everyone has Freedom of Speech, but they fail to warn you that it only applies as long as you Never Speak Freely. America is to Freedom of Speech what a Mime is to Opera.
March 7, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am an avid TPM follower but only now have been so motivated to post with my disapointment in the Obama camps handling of the Samantha Power situation.
While we're at it, a couple more people should resign because they are exhibiting absolutely NO strategy, besides doing whatever Hillary tells them.
This was his chance to fire back at the Clintons for being a privieledged, west suburban dictator who tries to have everything. He should have forced her hand on the Wolfson thing -or-showed some balls and being loyal to his teammate (why hasn't goolsby resigned???)
I respect his taking the high approach but David Axelrod needs to learn how to throw a few darts or quit himself, this may be the farthest he can take Barack. This is not the Axelrod that got Harold Washington elected, or maybe BHO just ain't tough enough.
March 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the upside, the resignation pushed this story to the top of the page on MSNBC.com with the following headline and subhead:
Obama aide who called Clinton 'monster' quits
Samantha Power told newspaper the rival candidate was stooping to low tactics.
So, an adviser was sacrificed, but the truth managed to shine through in the end -- i.e. Clinton et al "stooping to low tactics." That's the drumbeat that needs to be heard until Camp Clinton either carries on a more dignified campaign or drops out.
March 7, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
So if Powers has to resign for calling Clinton a monster, shouldnt that ass from the Hillary camp have to resign over calling Obama a Ken Starr?
March 7, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
i hate it when people have to resign for telling the truth.
March 7, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
josh "hope is not a plan" marshall is EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
March 7, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Idiot, check the real reason why Power resigned. THIS TURN OUT ACTUALLY A GOOD NEWS FOR CLINTON AND AMERICA!!!
March 7, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, you truly are a Clinton supporter. You just can't resist striking at anything that isn't in her corner. These posts are meant to be funny more than make a point, just relax a bit and hold your venom for Obama...y'all seem to be better at that.
March 8, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe I'm totally naive about campaigns, but is the resignation of a policy advisor during the nomination process really such a big deal? Isn't it really more symbolic than anything else? If Power is genuinely so close to Obama as I've read, no resignation is going to keep them from talking to each other or her working behind the scenes. And once this is all over, no one will think twice when she's brought on board again for his administration.
I score this thing so:
Shows Obama as "weak" -1
Shows resolve to run a clean campaign +1
Still gets the "Hillary is a monster" meme out +1
Shows Hillary as a crybaby +1
Total that +2 for Obama.
March 7, 2008 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's pretty obvious by now, but Hillary owns the media. Everything she does or says hits large and Obama is pretty silent.
Is it that he cannot breakthrough or that he is not engaging? I don't know. Regardless, he has proven innefective in breaking the narrative. On the other hand, maybe he is giving Hillary enough rope to hang herself.
Either way, Obama is losing the PR wars right now.
March 7, 2008 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Power_on_Obamas_Iraq_plan_best_case_scenario.html
from the above
"For all the chatter about Obama adviser Samantha Power's calling Clinton a "monster," another set of remarks made on her book tour in the United Kingdom may be equally threatening to the Obama campaign: Comments in a BBC interview that express a lack of confidence that Obama will be able to carry through his plan to withdraw troops from Iraq within 16 months.
"He will, of course, not rely on some plan that he’s crafted as a presidential candidate or a U.S. Senator," she said at one point in the interview.
Power downplayed Obama's commitment to quick withdrawal from Iraq on Hard Talk, a program that often exceeds any of the U.S. talk shows in the rigor of its grillings. She was challenged on Obama's Iraq plan, as it appears on his website, which says that Obama "will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months."
"What he’s actually said, after meting with the generals and meeting with intelligence professionals, is that you – at best case scenario – will be able to withdraw one to two combat brigades each month. That’s what they’re telling him. He will revisit it when he becomes president," Power says.
The host, Stephen Sackur, challenged her: "So what the American public thinks is a commitment to get combat forces out in 16 months isn't a commitment isn't it?"
"You can’t make a commitment in March 2008 about what circumstances will be like in January of 2009," she said. "He will, of course, not rely on some plan that he’s crafted as a presidential candidate or a U.S. Senator. He will rely upon a plan – an operational plan – that he pulls together in consultation with people who are on the ground to whom he doesn’t have daily access now, as a result of not being the president. So to think – it would be the height of ideology to sort of say, 'Well, I said it, therefore I’m going to impose it on whatever reality greets me.'"
"It’s a best-case scenario," she said again."
March 7, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
March 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
As an Obama supporter, I think he did the right thing here. There are really two upsides to the way Obama handled this. The first is that the story ends right here. If Obama had kept her on the campaign, we would never hear the end of it from the Clinton campaign. He has effectively blunted Clinton's ability to drag this story out any longer. What's more, he retains credibility with his argument that he's trying to elevate the discourse in politics.
The second upside to all this is that they effectively put the idea that Hillary is a monster out there and now there's nothing Hillary can do to get that idea out of the discourse. He fired the staffer who said it. Now everyone is talking about the fact that Hillary Clinton is a monster. We're hearing terms like "monster-gate" and "monster madness" thrown around. And whenever anyone hears the word "monster," they're going to think of Hillary Clinton and vice versa and there isn't a damn thing she can do about it.
Obviously, the tactical downside for Obama is that he loses a foreign policy advisor at a key moment in the campaign. But there's nothing to stop him from bringing her back once he's in the White House. Republicans resurrect their damaged advisers and candidates all the time.
Josh's comments about the "bitch-slap" theory of politics are well taken, but what was the strategic alternative here? Until someone can make a case for how Obama could have effectively kept Powers on board and turned the story against Clinton, I don't think that the bitch slap theory is the best lens for understanding what happened here.
March 7, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's campaign is built on lies after lies and Power has been fired for exposing it!!! You think she should stay? Me too!
Power Shocker II: Adviser Pulls Back on Obama Iraq Pledge
PAUL J.RICHARDS/AFP/Getty Images
Foreign policy confidant and TIME contributor tells yet another overseas interviewer that troop withdrawals might not come as fast as promised: “He will, of course, not rely on some plan that he’s crafted as a presidential candidate or a U.S. Senator.”
“You can’t make a commitment in March 2008 about what circumstances will be like in January of 2009. . . . So to think – it would be the height of ideology to sort of say, ‘Well, I said it, therefore I’m going to impose it on whatever reality greets me.’”
Watch BBC interview here.
March 7, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's campaign is built on lies after lies and Power has been fired for exposing it!!! You think she should stay? Me too!
Power Shocker II: Adviser Pulls Back on Obama Iraq Pledge
PAUL J.RICHARDS/AFP/Getty Images
Foreign policy confidant and TIME contributor tells yet another overseas interviewer that troop withdrawals might not come as fast as promised: “He will, of course, not rely on some plan that he’s crafted as a presidential candidate or a U.S. Senator.”
“You can’t make a commitment in March 2008 about what circumstances will be like in January of 2009. . . . So to think – it would be the height of ideology to sort of say, ‘Well, I said it, therefore I’m going to impose it on whatever reality greets me.’”
Watch BBC interview here.
March 7, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's campaign is built on lies after lies and Power has been fired for exposing it!!! You think she should stay? Me too!
Power Shocker II: Adviser Pulls Back on Obama Iraq Pledge
PAUL J.RICHARDS/AFP/Getty Images
Foreign policy confidant and TIME contributor tells yet another overseas interviewer that troop withdrawals might not come as fast as promised: “He will, of course, not rely on some plan that he’s crafted as a presidential candidate or a U.S. Senator.”
“You can’t make a commitment in March 2008 about what circumstances will be like in January of 2009. . . . So to think – it would be the height of ideology to sort of say, ‘Well, I said it, therefore I’m going to impose it on whatever reality greets me.’”
Watch BBC interview here.
March 7, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
take it easy with the "Send>>" button Aimey. you just gotta wait a few minutes for TPM to post your comment
and that story is NOT so shocking. do you think that Presidents should just move troops around without at all considering conditions on the ground at the time?
and, more pointedly to you, do you think Hillary would just rush 100% of the troops out of Iraq in Jan 2009 without considering what was happening in the country at the time? really. are you just throwing mud around that sticks just as well to you and Hillary?
March 7, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you really believe the leadership of Mr. Obama with two advisors going around telling people don't believe his rhetoric in the campaign? How many other advisors are doing the same? You may call it truth-telling but we do need mature leadership!!!
Don't you see a pattern?
March 7, 2008 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
And you actually believe a word coming from the clintons? You have got to be kidding. They have 35 years of experience lying through their teeth. What was the impeachment all about again? I don't remember exactly.
March 7, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Geez, calm yourself. Clinton people are saying the same thing...
http://www.nysun.com/article/72209?page_no=1
I don't find anything wrong with either side's statements. Besides, Obama himself said that withdrawal will be responsible and he would assess the situation AT THE TIME.
Wouldn't it be asinine to say you won't look at the facts at the time?
March 7, 2008 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, it is OK for her supporters at SNL to call her "bitch" and to say that "bitch is the new black", but if someone calls her a monster that person has to go????
Personally, I think that it is true that she is a bitch and a monster and few more things none of them laughable, but it is kind of funny.
In any case, I thing that Power should have stayed. She was not insulting and you cannot allow the monster to tell you what to do.
March 7, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course it's ok for her supporters to call her a bitch - they meant it as a compliment.
Agree with you that Power should have stayed, at least until Clinton makes hay with the politico story quoted above, where she admits that Obama might not be withdrawing from Iraq in 16 months after all.
March 7, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, so HRC doesn't like being called names, then? Does that mean she'll stop doing that as well? If I was Obama, I'd tell Power "okay, you're "fired" as far as the public knows, but what's your cell number? We'll keep in touch". I wouldn't let that harpy tell me who to keep and who to fire, not ever.
March 7, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I score this thing so:
Shows Obama as "weak" -1
Shows resolve to run a clean campaign +1
Still gets the "Hillary is a monster" meme out +1
Shows Hillary as a crybaby +1
Total that +2 for Obama.
Let me re-score for you:
1. Shows Obama as "weak" -1
2. Shows resolve to run a clean campaign +1
3. Still gets the "Hillary is a monster" meme out: -2 for contradicting your Item 2, a central theme. Also preaching to the choir.
4. Shows Hillary as a crybaby 0 - we already know her campaign whines about every slight.
Total = Obama -2
March 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
As much as this is a point for Team Hillary and her unmerry band, I believe that Samantha Power will (thankfully) continue to advise Obama. This isn't some game of dodgeball. This is big, ugly American politics. As a Democrat who will vote for one of them, I am continually annoyed by both candidates. I was very impressed by Obama's attracting of Power, though. For those of you who want an amazing book about our enchanting modern world--her book "A Problem from Hell" on America and Genocide is just devastating and so well-written.
March 7, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Colonpowwow, you have it wrong. Hillary's camp said that Obama's persistent calls for her to release her tax returns was a Ken Starr move. Obama's people said nothing at all about Whitewater.
March 7, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
"What worries me is if he thinks that will work in the general. Ask John Kerry about that. He's fine gentleman- and a losing presidential candidate."
Yep, Steve, I agree with the Kerry analogy. It worries me, too.
But you raised the critical point: this is NOT the general election yet. Obama really shouldn't be trying to crush and bully a fellow democrat...nor she him. But in the general election, he needs to be tougher, I agree, and no doubt he will be. Choose your battles.
I'll refer again back to the nasty vs. tough comparison someone made earlier...if Obama can perfect this distinction before facing McCain, he will be unbeatable.
March 7, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think objectively I have to say that Obama is definitely losing the PR battle. He needs to step it up a bit. This only plays to the weak narrative by letting it go without a fight. I do think Josh is right that they've got the O team on their heals. Now as to whether or not they are just giving Hillary enough rope to hang herself, I don't know. I don't like it. I love Obama...want to see him in the White House. But we don't just move from partisan politics to post partisan politics overnight. He needs to show he can throw some punches.
At the same time, I don't see how Hillary whining about being called a name does her any good. But you could say the same thing about a lot of Rovian moves and look what we've had for 7 years.
Marie, I like your comments. I know you are/were a Hillary supporter. You just seem to be a realist. Which is more than perhaps a few of us can say when we get so wrapped up in our nominee. : ))
March 7, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
i particularly admire the insightful comments of the brave low-level pundit-in-chief josh marshall telling obama supporters to "get over it." this brilliant peon of the illiterati continues on to explain to people how politicking works. josh knows this because he watches a lot of political television in his office that's near some politicians. this guy is such an idiot that he even decides to share the insight that hillary has gotten into obama's head. really? how was that? did she get in his head when, over the course of two weeks of campaigning, he cut her enormous lead in both texas and ohio to virtually nothing? was she in his head when, in her two "firewall" states, she picked up an amazing five-ten delegates? is the fact that she cannot win the pledged delegate count a subtle and sneaky way of getting in his head, by making him think that he's going to win? ooohhh - those tricky clintons. you and the rest of the chattering nabobs that somehow make a living by spilling your ill-formed thoughts onto a computer screen have become such a joke these days. if you don't have anything serious to contribute to the conversation, then please go take some more pictures of your son and post them so we can pretend to care.
March 7, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have no doubt the MSM will turn this around tonight and say Obama is weak or something as ridiculous!
March 7, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Dems come closer to losing November with every day that goes by. I can't believe that after 8 years of Bush, and a corrupt GOP congress that the dems have found a way to lose, but I think they just may have.
The Democratic party is the party for highly accomplished losers. No one else can blow it quite like a democrat. Way to go guys! Way to miss the gigantic honking redwood forest for your little petty trees.
Kamikazi Clinton is taking us all down with her. The pathetic thing is when it's all over, she'll be looking around during her concession speech, with tears in her eyes, and genuinely not know what happened.
March 7, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought she ment "monster" only in the sense of Clinton being a "monster" campaigner. Sort or like Barry Bonds being a "monster" homerun hitter. Sort of a begrudging compliment really. Anyhow, I think Obama would be better served to show he won't back down in the defense of a friend. I think the voters implicitely wonder, "If he won't stand up for a close compatriot, how do I know he'll stand up for little ol' me?"
March 7, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, please. If someone's really thinking that, they need to have their head examined.
March 7, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am quite surprised at the number of posters who keep repeating the Powers kerfuffle is "actually a good thing for the Obama campaign"
Well, actually no it is not.
This very well may be a tempest in a teapot in even the intermediate term, but it not at all a net plus.
It is never a good thing when one of your high profile advisors says something outrageous that overshadows your candidate and his or her message.
[and to face facts what Ms. Powers said _was_ outrageous for someone of her stature and closeness to the candidate to utter in mixed company. If someone in a high advisory role in the Rick Lazio camp had said the very same thing in 2000, would not every one here have demanded that Lazio dissociate himself from that advisor]
It is never a good thing to have to require a high profile advisor to resign in the midst of a media frenzy.
This is very much a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.
Of course it is a long way until Pennsylvania and this will surely not be an issue by then.
However, I cannot imagine that the question whether to again disavow Ms Power's statement will not come up in the next Democratic debate. [surely there _has_ to be at least one more]
March 7, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
My fervent support of Obama has been deflated over the past week.
What I see is a clever, fast-moving strategy by the Clinton camp to define Obama as an appealing but unseasoned rookie who will benefit from the tutelage of Hillary Clinton. From her school marmish "Shame on you, Barack" comments to her successful call for the scalp of his key foreign policy advisor, Hillary has won the narrative of establishing her as the stern yet compassionate taskmaster -- just what the country needs after 8 years of frat-boy George W. Now, she and surrogates are reassuring Democratic voters that "don't worry we'll take Barack under our wing and 'train him' to be Commmander in Chief." Of course, I do not believe for a moment Clinton is seriously considering Obama for the VP slot, but it is a strategy she can play all the way to the convention to secure the Super Delegates. Sadly, Obama has not hit back, maybe because he can't.
March 7, 2008 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you so clearly see through all of Clinton's bullshit, then why is your support deflating?
March 7, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
After reading a post by someone on another blog, I actually think the whole Power matter has been a masterstroke by the Obama campaign