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Poll: Obama Ahead 21 Points In North Carolina Primary

A new Public Policy Polling (D) survey of North Carolina shows that Barack Obama has jumped into an enormous lead over Hillary Clinton, after having been in a dead heat during the worst of the Jeremiah Wright controversy.

Here are the numbers, compared to their previous poll from just last week:

Obama 55% (+11)
Clinton 34% (-9)

From the internals: Obama leads 80%-14% among black voters, while Hillary has a narrow 47%-40% lead among whites.

With Hillary Clinton facing a big gap in pledged delegates, she now needs to win practically all the remaining contests in order to damage Obama's public standing and justify a super-delegate win — and this poll isn't good news for her. For Obama's part, a huge net delegate win here could potentially make up for just about all the expected Hillary gains from Pennsylvania.

Late Update: One other factor in the wild swing for this poll could be that PPP has altered their methodology to a higher-turnout model than their last North Carolina poll. The same model was used for some other primary polls this season, and in those cases the numbers were relatively close to the final results.


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From the internals: Obama leads 80%-14% among black voters, while Hillary has a narrow 47%-40% lead among whites.

That many undecided; Obama's Black support slipping below 90%, must be trouble.

HRC under 50% not new, it must be the lack of black voters for Obama. Just, a day in the race.

North Carolina doesn't count, so it's meaningless.

...and they have Black people, who we all know hate Democrats.

When was this poll taken exactly? Could this be a sign that Sniper-gate is having a serious effect?

Stick a fork in her. If you think that that number for African American isn’t gonna be more like 85%-90% then I got a bridge to sell you. If he wins in Indiana, N. Carolina, & Oregon the delegate gains will more than wipe out any gains in PA. She is like that girlfriend you break up with but still keeps call. It’s time for Obama to get a restraining order.

Frat!

Greeting Bruh Publicus,

I agree that I only trust SurveyUSA for exact numbers but other polls are good for showing directional movement. PA is 4 weeks away and most voters who haven’t already made up their mind will not decide until 3 weeks from now. Everyone with half a brain knows it’s over but I just hope the animus that has been created by the Clintons will end soon.
The tactics of her and her campaign has shown that she has become the monster she sought to kill. The Republicans has used such vile and viscerally evil tactics on her and Pres. Clinton for so long that they have now embraced those tactics as their own and forgotten what this is all about - Helping the American people. For them it is has become about winning. Sad really.

"Tired moments find me a delightful treat"

Gee do you think black voters are really being racist voting for a particular candidate just because he is black?...

Not. This. Time.

Your worthless race-baiting only serves to make the cause stronger.

says who? you?

its waaay too obvious.

They voted in the same ratios for many a White Candidate in the past, but we have yet to see Whites vote in such high percentages for a black candidate. Since African Americans have voted at the 90% level for a series of White Democratic Presidential Candidates, don't you think that you should be actually asking why the White community has never voted at such levels for a black candidate for any office, ever ever ever. Get it yet, you race bait jerk......

Could be that they are voting for the candidate that they prefer him over Clinton for a variety of reasons, like, I don't know, he's not insulting them with every other statement that he makes.

Or it could be that they think he will be a better president.

Or that she's not qualified to be president.

Or that it is time for change.

Or that they like his policy proposals better.

Or that ....

You get the idea. There are a bunch of different reasons someone supports one candidate over the other. But you knew that. Just being a hater.

I'll be so glad when this is all over. You Clinton supporters are giving progressives a bad name.

No, cause in the past, we've voted for a candidate because he's white, so things pretty much even out.

Better yet, she's that ex-girlfriend that calls at 3am. Thank you for the wonderful imagery. As someone who used to support her, I think you hit the nail on the head.

Sincerely,
Little Fish.

Break out the kleenex, Bosnian Monster!

Hey guys, just a suggestion. Any time you post a new poll like this, any chance you could include the MOE? I know thismuch about sampling and opinion polling, but I do know that a poll with an MOE of + or - 5% or more is essentially a guess. This one, for the record, is + or - 2.8%.

They're yelling in Charlotte...

We're as mad as hell and we're not going to take the Clintons anymore

Her latest Wright attack is beyond the pale

Vile woman

The Dems could make it clear to her that if she doesn’t win this for herself, but instead just sets Obama up to lose, then she should not be the nominee.

Unless she can set up a good case for herself going forward, it should be Obama, or, if something happens that causes him to implode or trip down the stairs, it should be Gore or some other third party.

We just can’t have her trying to tear him down all the way ’till June, thinking she’ll win this thing.

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I don't recall ever seeing such a huge swing in one week in a poll. But that raises a red flag so let's see what PPP says next week (they're doing one a week until the May6 primary).

I think that Obama's trip to NC plays a huge role in whatever bounce we're seeing. He was first to come to the state in a campaign stop and the media rewarded him largely with positive coverage.

But Hillary is in NC this week and so they'll do likewise for her and so expect to see a bounce back her way next week. (although Obama is back this week too.)

She's headed there dodging sniper-fire, however.

Expect her to be dodging questions, not getting favorable press.

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And that's why such a "huge swing" is so suspicious. Only a few days ago, Reuters reported a national Zogby poll that indicated a similar massive swing nationally in Clinton's direction.

The fact is that public opinion doesn't usually swing so wildly. More likely is a poll that is way out of whack followed by one that more accurately taps opinion, or vice versa.

I have a hard time believing the race moved 20 points in 7 days, but the poll does show significant movement for Obama with white voters.

Is it really the case that Rasumussen released a significan wave of state-wide polls from NC yesterday without polling the Democratic primary? Are they holding those results back?

Previous polls had Obama with a large lead in NC. Then all of a sudden came the recent poll that had both candidates tied. Now we're back to the large Obama lead.

If you've watched the NC polling numbers for a while, it's apparent that the tie was the outlier, and not the big Obama lead.

I've started keeping track of buzzwords from this Democratic primary season. Names, phrases, terms, etc.

Anyone have any more to add?

fully vetted
denounce AND reject
NAFTA
Pastor Wright
hope
superdelegates
red phone
ready on day one
as far as I know
tax records
yes we can
sniper fire
mis-spoke
change
new politics
obamania
billary
obama girl
most secretive in America
typical white person
monster
lucky to be black
needs another pillow
bitch is the new black
Sinbad & Cheryl Crow
Commander in Chief of the economy
Rezko
patriotism
change you can xerox
earmarks
Operation Chaos
Limbaugh vote
polarizing
whatever it takes to win

Black is the new president, bitch

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Black is the new President
That would make a fine t-shirt.

kitchen sink, silly season, automatic delegates...

Looks like a bad poll to me. I don't see a 20 pt swing in a week, even given events. Who knows what's true?

I did not trust the PPP result last week when he was only ahead by 1 pt and I do not trust it this week when he is ahead by 21 pts. And while we are on the subject, I agree with Invictus that the 80% black support sounds suspiciously low to me.

If I thought that the poll was worth anything to begin with, I would find that narrow Clinton lead among whites to be very significant grist for the mill. As it happens, however, I find the whole thing implausible, so there is no sense dwelling on any one aspect of the results.

That's good news in NC. The Wright damage control seems to be working quite nicely.

I still think PA is winnable. Especially with some creative ads connecting to the core of working class male.

How about this cript?

When you go for a job interview, you present what you have got truthfully, your skills, your experiences. You know you are imperfect, but you tried your best. You stand confident with integrity and honesty. Someone else however exagerated her past experiences time and time again. She took credit for others work. She lied about having done this and having done that. She claimed she saved the world.

Should we give her the job for president just because she's got your ex-boss's name?

What Eric doesn't mention from the PPP report:

"The poll also showed that a possible John Edwards endorsement wouldn't do much for Hillary Clinton's prospects in the state. 31% of voters who are either undecided or support Obama said an Edwards endorsement would make them less likely to vote for Clinton, compared to just 12% who said it would make them more likely to support her. A majority of voters, 57%, said an Edwards endorsement would have no impact on them one way or the other."

She just said this: "Occasionally, I am a human being like everybody else."

Occasionally she's human.

http://www.kdkaradio.com/pages/22441.php?contentType=34&contentId=592

This could explain why she is trying to milk the Wright thing again, even after its udders are dry like a desert. Desperation..

Hey guys can anybody tell me why the IRON ***** is still in this thing?Does she have NO Decency as if she knew what that meant?Does she know the meaning of the word Honesty?Not likely.Also Heaven forbid she should learn how to tell the truth!!!Am I wrong in this assumption guys?This move in the POLLS is Huge.I am going to do an IDIOTIC on you guys THIS IS EXCELLANT NEWS FOR YOU KNOW WHO!!!!!

Who's that?

"She Who Must Not Be Named?"

or was it "Our Lady of Perpetual Triangulation?"

so many polls, and so little time.

I only trust Survey USA polls.

Obama's is having a rough March. The veneer of the man w/o substance is becoming obvious.He's losing ground in most polls.

Yeah he has those touchy feely ads but, if you look closer, you can see right through him. Nice fella, but not ready for prime time.

If he can keep it under 10% in PA that will be a win in itself!!!

elonepb:

You overlooked a few buzzwords:

3 a.m.
Good News!!!
meaningless
automatic delegates
send in the clown
audacity
entitled
Judas

I'm sure there are others...

Hillary: Wright "Would Not Have Been My Pastor"

Ouch. BO is still on the beach while Clinton is on the attack.

Race baiting is a twenty four seven job for desperate Hillary Rambo Clinton the Heroine of Tuzla.


Hillary Rambo Clinton has crossed the threshold to qualify as Grand Wizard in Chief.

The Dems could make it clear to her that if she doesn’t win this for herself, but instead just sets Obama up to lose, then she should not be the nominee.

Unless she can set up a good case for herself going forward, it should be Obama, or, if something happens that causes him to implode or trip down the stairs, it should be Gore or some other third party.

We just can’t have her trying to tear him down all the way ’till June, thinking she’ll win this thing.

Are you sure you want to use a combat metaphor right about now.

Wait...

Was that sniper fire I heard????

Goatlife is obsessed with Obama's taking a few days off during a six week lull in the primary. I don't know why he thinks that talking point will resonate. A quick read of his other posts show he is nothing but a race-baiting troll waiting desperately for someone to engage him.

Public Policy Poll....what a joke... 2 weeks ago, they showed a really tight race and know we are to believe that he has a 21 point lead.... while other polls still show a tight race in north carolina.... they don't vote until may 6..... lots can happen between know and then.... wait after hillary wins pa and then lets start looking at those north carolina polls.

Public Policy Poll....what a joke..

My sentiments exactly. I am glad to see that you have come around, given that (if memory serves) you were among those gleefully touting the one-point-lead of last week as evidence that Clinton was going to stage a game-ending upset in North Carolina. PPP scarcely merits our attention regardless of what result it proposes.

Check out what she wrote on the next thread up. She is going to vote for McCain, The War Lover, if Hillary does not get the nomination.

Does it really matter? This thing is over. The only thing Mrs. Tuzla can do at this point is bring down Obama. Sad.

Where is idiotic when you need him?

The margin may not be 20, but it won't be under 10. My home state is Obama territory.

There is a hotly contested Dem primary for Governor, and both candidates support Obama - including the one who is currently favored to be NC's first female Governor (Beverly Perdue).

MOE 3.8% - it's phone polling, so I'm not exactly big on PPP's methodology.

But Obama above 50% sounds closer to my gut feeling about NC. Limited Limbaugh factor; big Obama support in the Triangle, Triad and west of the state; and a genuine excitement about the primary counting, after thinking the legislature's failure to move it had relegated it to irrelevance.

good news for obama, but let's not forget that PPP has consistently been one of the more egregiously wrong polling firms this primary season.

That said, Obama's lead is probably only 10 pts, give or take a few, and he will win that state.

Hillary not's even a nice person. In fact, she's a bona fide liar. Bill Clinton is a liar. Just waiting for Chelsea to start lying about something. I thought the Bushes were bad, but these people take the cake. I have officially reached the point where I will never vote for Clinton or anyone that supports them.
Hil now says she was slept-deprived and misspoke on Bosnia. Like the president ever sleeps. "oh, I'm sorry American. I was tired and I ordered troops to Iran, my bad"

gee, looks like the Obots are out in full force today, why am I not surprised.

Speaking of polls check out the dailies Rasmussen.

That should tell you the validity of Josh's poll.
He's getting too partisan for me lately.

I know I would never respond to a phone poll.

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Wow, this is comforting. Polls generally are meaningless, but I was getting worried about NC. Good rebound after the wright stuff. I guess we'll see what the voting looks like, but this is comforting. If the poll was tight, I would be much more worried. I think he weathered the storm and now its onto the nomination and mccain.

Please supers put a stop to the clintons. They are trying to destroy the dems chances in november so that they can run again in 2012. Please stop the madness.

NC hates Hillary, they have hated her for a long long time.

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Look I find Hillary Clinton's tactics rather vile and I view her unfavorably which I didn't before, but even I know she's not saying she's usually better than a human being...

Everyone makes mistakes.

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The question probably should be asked that if as Bill says John McCain and Hillary are such good friends is Hillary simply working for John at this point. Has she moved from trying to win the White House to helping McCain get it instead?

If so it wouldn't be the first time John McCain has gotten help in this election. Had Fred Thompson, another good friend of John’s, not undercut Huckabee in South Carolina McCain might not be where he is today. I'm beginning to think that Hillary is just working for John McCain at this point since members of her own campaign say she only has about a 10% chance of getting the nomination anyway.

elonepb,


transparency
mis-remembered
wide-stance
entitlement

As a Raleigh Native, I agree with Mus-Hussein-Grove. I see no Hillary placards, I do see the Obama bumperstickers, and not just in the Whole Foods parking lot...

As a blackman I have less love for Bush than Hillary but at this point I would ridicule any fellow African American that I knew was still a supporter of hers...female or not; I wouldn't waste my time with any remaining Bush fans...what's the point, they're too far gone. I think day TWO or THREE of the Wright saga, the average white democrat began getting smart...youtube is too prevalent for them not to have found out that there is no there 'there'. But pay attention to the amount of people who were waiting for a reason to denounce...they can not stand the fact that he travels light, meaning he has no baggage...hell I would go as far to say in Washington standards he doesn't even bring carry-on luggage.

And ZERO % chance at a cabinet position in an Obama admin Steve Garrett.

Keen Observation indeed.

PPP has lots of problems (in brief, they suck), but one thing to keep in mind with March polling of NC might be spring break. The last PPP poll (with 1+ lead for Obama) came when the entire UNC system was on break. I was out of the state, and I *know* that as my opinion goes, so goes the state.

Actually, I don't know whether their is a "spring break" factor considered in polling anywhere, but it is something that I've been thinking about in looking at March polls. I realize that I can't generalize from my very specific circumstances, but I live in the "Research Triangle" of NC (Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill), and we have a serious demographic shift during the month of March every year. If you figure in a "do not call during March Madness" factor, I do not envy the telephone pollster trying to get an accurate picture of NC in March.

I have done a statistical analysis of what it would take for Clinton to close the 160+ pledged delegate gap. She would have to win all 10 remaining contests with 65%, in which case she comes out 4 delegates ahead of Obama.

In my analysis, I have three scenarios, one in which she carries all 10 contests with 60% and still falls short, one in which she carries all 10 with 65% and indeed pulls ahead and the third scenario: the likely outcome of those ten contests, based on geography, demographics and past results in the region. The blog is here calculations for those l.

Go take a look and see the numbers for yourself.

I am sure the Clinton team already knows these numbers.

Game over.

Quick, someone toss a bucket of water on Old Iron Pants. For christsakes, melt The Heroine of Tuzla, before the party goes up in flames.

Here's the blog entry again- for some reason the link didn't function the first time:

my calculations for those last races.

bonncaruso,
it aint over till the convention. period.

let the process work itself out. The SDs have to have a say and they haven't spoken.

McCain is doing himself in by his own words. Heh,
3 months of him opening his mouth and putting his foot in it and the people could elect a dog catcher.

The reason the primaries have become essentially tied, is due to the competing strategies, top down, vs. 50 state.

The SDs will decide this one. Game aint over YET!

the magic(2025) number won't be reached by either side, so it has to be decided by the SDs. No matter who ends up with 3 or 4 more delegates or 160+.

Its about the rooolz at this point. Hillary has the advantage, as the seasoned politico. Not ready for prime time, Mr. Obama.

Obama re-clinched many of his white supporters with his speech (and he, thankfully, will have a couple of weeks to re-inspire some of those other white waverers who now need a little more coaxing to believe again in his loyalties), but he also re-clinched the black vote with his speech. And every time she opens her mouth to diss him and the pastor, she loses hope of ever winning that crucial block of voters for herself in the GE. This has got to be a HUGE consideration for superdelegates.

And don't you just love Bill Richardson for sticking his neck out - and for Hillary sticking her nose out - in the nick of time? It's all about momentum, so sweet.


sorry Dana but inspiration won't get us healthcare, out of the war. 2 huge issues Hillary has been talking about even with the distractions. Buyers'remorse setting in on Obama.

His legislative achievements that he hangs his éxperience' on came on his 7th year in the state legislature when the Democrats regained the majority after Republicans held it.

He took credit when those before him did the grunt work on long held legislation, causing resentment among other state senators.

THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!

!!!HILLMENTUM™!!!!

I miss DTM's polling analysis. DTM, WHERE ARE YOU?!?!?!

Another term for elonepb's list:Tonya Harding

So Hill's going to kneecap Obama in order to make SDs scared to give him their support. Hillary's the nominee - then what?

It makes me feel sick. How dare she.

im tired of hillary endorsing old man mccain im done with the clintons im now tired of them they are destroying any good that they did in the 90s by being self serving and puting themselves before the people. she needs to drop out now for the good of the party and to save any respect i may have for the clintons. if the supers ovcerturn obama ill stay home. knowing the republicants will rally and elect old man mccain.

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