Obama To Push Back Harder Against Hillary's "Commander-In-Chief Threshold" Onslaught
In a sign that the Obama camp may realize that they need to push back harder on Hillary's efforts to sow doubts about his readiness to be commander-in-chief, Obama will hold a press conference today with former service secretaries for the armed forces who will attest to his experience and judgment.
Among the secs attending: Secretary Clifford Alexander, Jr. (U.S. Army -- Carter Administration); Secretary Richard Danzig (U.S. Navy -- Clinton Administration); and Secretary F. Whitten Peters (U.S. Air Force -- Clinton Administration).
Hard to miss that two are from the administration of Hillary's husband.
One thing to watch for: Is this the beginning of a concerted effort to challenge Hillary's commander-in-chief assault much more aggressively?















GObama! GObama!!
March 10, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent, two 1-year secretaries and one who served till 27 years ago.
At least the old cat isn't fishing for a cabinet position.
[Snark recycled from similar post]
March 10, 2008 11:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
About time. Hillary's claim of experience has been ludicrous.
March 10, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
about damn time. you can show some backbone without having to appear -ve or engaging in "politics as usual."
March 10, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why isn't Sinbad at this press conference? He could tell the world who REALLY accomplished Hillary's "accomplishments"!
March 10, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if those secretaries from the Clinton administration will do a back-handed compliment of a sorts.
They may say, "I served as the Secretary of the Navy under the Clinton administration. I also know Hillary Clinton well from her tenure as First Lady, but I strongly believe that Senator Obama is more ready to be commander-in-chief due to his judgement and the qualities he has displayed as a leader in this campaign."
March 10, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Like this?
"I knew Bill Clinton. I worked with Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was a friend of mine. Hillary, you're no Bill Clinton."
March 10, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't this kinda like Bush surrounding himself with a bunch of yes men telling him and the world how great he is.
I thought we were moving in a different direction. Alas, this looks like more of the same...
March 10, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
He isn't surrounding himself with yes men, he is showing that Hillary has no monopoly on experts who will stand behind her and say she is ready. It is in no way business as usual. Give me a break. Every candidate needs some kind of affirmation by national security people to convince voters (who are being scared off by fearmongering ads) that they can handle it.
March 10, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary did this very thing last week during her whole 'McCain and I crossed the the threshold for Commander in Chief' event. It sickening how she can float this VP nonsense after saying he's not qualified. She's clearly trying to convince undecideds who like both candidates that they can have both if they vote for her. She really will do or say anything to win. Pathetic.
March 10, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's just pure disingenuous dickishness, BK "in Da House." Are you some troll TRYING to make Clinton supporters look bad?
March 10, 2008 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't the whole point of Obama's trip abroad to push back against this meme?
March 10, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
How can you challenge Hillary's Commander-in-Chief threshold crossing abilities? Let me make you aware of a few FACTS:
FACT - Sinbad and Hillary resolved THE BAY OF PIGS!
FACT - Sinbad and Hillary traveled into outer space ON SPUTNIK!
FACT - Sinbad and Hillary TRADED ARMS FOR HOSTAGES IN IRAN!
FACT - SINBAD AND HILLARY HAVE CROSSED THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF THRESHOLD!
TPM, are you guys teasing me? How much closer could you possibly get to putting me on the FRONT PAGE?
Put Sinbad back in THE SPOTLIGHT, BABY!!
Clinton/Sinbad '08 - Ready to bring our 35 years of peripheral involvement in politics ON DAY ONE!
March 10, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hope you're having as much fun writing this stuff as I am reading it.
March 10, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
March 10, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
It get's my vote.
March 10, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Saying that Hillary has Executive Branch experience is like saying Yoko Ono was a Beatle."
- Kos commenter, Jsn.
via Sullivan
March 10, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
one of my favorite lines. wish some of the attack dogs in the obama camp would pick it up.
March 10, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
No you don't. They'd have to resign.
March 10, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
perhaps. i think it's borderline ... but yeah probably not the best move.
March 10, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ithink is a great line. How come they can claim to be offended by that? Besides, it reflects reality in so many ways...
March 10, 2008 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
But, have you noticed......the 'Hillary is a monster' expression has taken hold.....it sort of rolls off the tongue, or one's typing fingers.
March 10, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I like that the cultural reference may resonate with a particular and obvious demographic.
March 10, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
That is easily the funniest attack line I've yet seen regarding Hillary's executive "experience". It might be toxic for Obama's people to utter that line, but I'm thinking a media person like say, Keith Olbermann or Bill Maher would be an ideal delivery vehicle.
March 10, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Yoko had been with the Beatles since Hamburg building their career, traveling on the road, there in the studio, yes.
Think of Hillary as say Brian Epstein or George Martin instead.
But the Hillary hatred is similar to the Yoko hatred. I guess she wasn't the groupie people wanted.
March 10, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Think of Hillary as say Brian Epstein or George Martin instead.
Neither of whom were Beatles. The analogy is correct. In order to claim experience AS a Beatle, one would have had to actually BEEN a Beatle. Conversely, to claim executive branch experience, one needs to have been a leader of an executive branch. Hillary, McCain and Obama have not been Governor or President. Therefore, to argue in favor of one candidate based on "executive branch" experience is absolute hogwash.
2 weeks ago I was more than ready to pull the lever for her should she have won the Democratic nomination with the most committed delegates. Now, at best, that is nothing more than a pipe dream. Her last gasp desperation smacks of a bunker mentality circa Berlin 1945 where if her dreams for domination can't be fulfilled, she is going to bring down everybody else with her.
March 10, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everyone has to have their "yes men" there to support them, but it all changes when you go WAY out of your way just find someone to be your "yes man".
In a way, everyone that has an opinion for a candidate is somewhat of a "yes person".
March 10, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
^ For a candidate as opposed to against, and also sticks up for their candidate, defends them, and attacks another in support of their candidate.
I guess I'm a "yes man" for Obama.
March 10, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
David Kurtz needs to take own advice and chill - "Buffoonery Alert"
March 10, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or like Wanda Sykes said on Leno, what experience does she have to be ready on Day one? She knows her way around the White House? She don't need to know where the bathroom is at? She already knows all the hiding places to look for Bill when he's hiding out with one of her interns?
Pillow talk with Bill is NOT experience as being president. She was no co-president or co-governor. The burden should be on HER to show the experience she has. She just want everyone to assume she has the experience since she's been first lady.
This might sound messed up, but does she have any idea of what Bill went through to drive him to the experiences he had with the notorious intern? I don't care to hear ANY of the juicy details of what happened, just what in his job made him do it and if she had gone through the same thing.
How about the world going after Bill and her only being able to console him, not take the blame for anything unless she stuck her neck out and acted like the co-president.
Former Co-President Hillary Clinton 2008
March 10, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
BK,
Nice! I keep waiting to hear that "elections are part of politics as ususal so Obama should drop out of the Primary to show he's different!"
Keep going, your logic is flawless.
March 10, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has been and will continue to make the true case here- that the Bush / McCain administration has been one long gift to al Qaeda. The lizard brains will vote for McSame, regardless.
March 10, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I was hoping he could avoid getting into a pissing match with her over this issue, but it was probably inevitable. But it's a lose/lose proposition for both of them. McCain's age and years in office make Hillary's claims laughable and the squabbling between she and Obama and potential point of ridicule by the Republicans. The two junior Democrat Senators fighting over who has the most "experience"--isn't that cute?
March 10, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Getting the "pissing match" started now will help Obama in the future.
Clinton would (if she ever manages to pull ahead in delegates and get nominated) start with McCain having boasted of fixing Kosovo and Ireland -- they ragged on Gore's "exagerations," expect a more vicious attack this time.
Obama, if he keeps getting military men and foreign policy experts to back him, and makes it clear he's going to build a strong administration with a big talent pool, would be ready to face McCain's attacks of "inexperience."
March 10, 2008 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama should also highlight what Rendell said yesterday on "Meet The Press." Russert asked him how Clinton can say on one hand that he's not qualified to be president, and then on the other say she'd want him as her running mate. And Rendell replied something along the lines that Clinton was more qualified than Obama, but that Obama was qualified, and that saying he wasn't was just "rhetoric."
That's similar to what Bill Clinton said when asked the same question. He called it "just politics."
Obama should harp on the fact that they're making personal attacks that even they don't believe, meaning they don't mind lying just to win an election. Maybe that's politics to them (and to a lot of people, Republicans and -- apparently -- Josh and Greg and David Kurtz included), but the reason Obama is generating so much enthusiasm is that he believes it's possible to play an honest brand of politics and still win.
And you know what? Despite the current narrative in the mainstream media and the mainstream blogosphere, he's right. He IS winning. Only in the deluded world of Hillaryland is she the front-runner.
March 10, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
In all of this, keep in mind the truism, "There is no defense against slander." Obama best keep to the moral high road, answer the kitchen sink stuff with reality based answers, and use Reagan's famous, and effective, "There you go again" line.
The reason the kitchen sink stuff works is the observation H L Mencken made years ago,, "Nobody ever went broke betting on the ignorance of the american people." The Clinton machine is pandering to the fears and credulity of folks,,,,,, Obama is best when he's showing a better way,,,,,, and he does it exceedingly well. Just keep at it.
March 10, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree, it's a slippery slope for Obama to get down in the muck with Clinton and other opponents, especially since Obama's message has been that politics doesn't have to be about mud-slinging.
I don't think Obama has had to face such overbearing (yet largely specious) criticism -- I for one am glad they're approaching it in such a controlled manner; it will take a little bit of time for them to find their rhythm in responding to this kind of stuff (going too fast gets you things like the Power slip-up), but again I'm glad to see they're refusing to acknowledge the usefulness of such dirty politics by engaging in them themselves. I hope he continues to take the high-road, but will find a way to swat down these bogus allegations and attacks with almost brutal effectiveness.
To me, Clinton has succeeded in contrasting herself with Obama -- she has shown herself for the dyed-in-the-wool establishment politician she is. I am now convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt that she is undeserving of the office of President of the United States.
March 10, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry,,,,,, forgot the sign off,,,,,,
GOBAMA08
March 10, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
No we don't want to see them turn this into dueling defense experts. Please! Especially as the eventual nominee should have the latitude to call on all available talent without any rancor.
But Obama's rollout needs doing; his guys will garner much more msm attention than just Obama saying "Yes I am!".
And if Obama can avoid making it a strict comparison to HRC then it will work to get him back to that point where he was challenging McCain as if HRC was already in his rearview mirror.
And that is where he wants to be.
The simple truth is that at his best Obama comes across as Presidential in a very affecting pop culture way.
HRC hasn't that knack. Not at all.
March 10, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
JTHB, there are a lot of time I don't agree with what you have to say here, but in this case, I think you're definitely correct. He doesn't have to get down in the muck to fight back here. But he's doing exactly what he needs to do, roll out the support that the media will lap up, and continue to levelheadedly highlight the hypocrisy of the Clinton's ever changing message of the day.
March 10, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it is easy and tempting to say, "Go get 'em Obama! Be fierce! Go for the jugular! Take on Fox news! Take Hillary down!"
But I bet Obama has a better, more civilized plan...that will work. I agree with several people above that Obama actually has the voter enthusiasm, momentum and character to win WITHOUT sinking to the level of his opponents and his critics. Wouldn't that be something?
Analogies to Kerry and Mondale are close, but not quite accurate in my opinion. These men were nice ...and boring. Obama is anything but boring. He doesn't need to sling mud and acknowledge Fox news to get attention.
I'd like a bit more communication from him confirming his general approach and attitude towards these attacks, though. Silence leaves too much to the imagination in some cases.
March 10, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well said, and I agree. I think Obama already has a winning hand (most pledged delegates, popular vote lead, most states won, etc.) His argument for change is to approach politics differently. I'd be disappointed if he took the bait and got down in the mud. He has the upper hand and shouldn't be goaded into playing to her style. He just won WY convincingly and MS should be similar. I would hope that people in PA, IN, KY and WV would be drawn to his positive message, and at least keep things close. Thus, they would be still be playing about the same hands they have now. Even if FL and MI re-vote, chances are results be closer than the votes on record, and change nothing re: their relative positions. Clinton would get a bunch of supers in FL re-instated(her real goal there). Obama should keep clean hands and wage a fair campaign, rather than fight. Haven't we had enough fighters in the POTUS slot? Maybe it's time we look for a uniter; a reunifier; a diplomat.
March 10, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd say the NY Times piece on the disarray in the Clinton campaign reveals far more about Clinton's supposed executive experience than anything else.
In particular:
Emphasis mine. Valuing "loyalty and familiarity over experience and expertise".
Gee. Who does this remind me of?
Obama needs to point out, without getting personal, that these claims of being ready on "Day one" have never really been examined by the media. And the Clinton campaign complains about media bias?
March 10, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Totally agree that he should call out the media on examining her "day one" credentials. This isn't an attack on her, just stating that he's been vetted, perhaps they ought to look at her history.
And how many skeletons fall out of that closet?
March 10, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Yoko Ono comparison is good, but I also read somewhere this:
Brett Favre is retiring as the quarterback of the Green Bay Packer.
But it's ok, his wife will be the quarterback for the Packers next season. After all, she's very qualified. She went to every single game, and knows the playbook.
March 10, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
As a GB Packer fan who worships at the shrine of Favre, I think is the best analogy yet!
March 10, 2008 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hopefully these guys all come out and say how stupid it was to go into Iraq.
March 10, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
In any group or any organization, a religious community for example or a political party, you can only only remain viable as long as you continue to add new members. Forget all these arguments about being ready to be commander in chief; both candidates are intelligent and very capable people and can take on this job. But which candidate is revitalizing the Democratic party? Which candidate is bringing in new young voters? For Senator Clinton to brag about her strength among seniors is hollow praise in the long run. If the Democrats fail to bring in crossover voters and more importantly energized young voters who can be part of the long term strength of the party we will continue to be on the losing side of elections.
March 10, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just curious, is Sinbad going to be there?
March 10, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sen. Barack Obama's has acknowledged that he has yet to hold a substantive hearing since becoming chairman of a Senate subcommittee on Europe.
The admission offered a "glimpse of the real Barack Obama," and was emblematic of the Illinois senator's light record of results
Obama said he "did not hold a single oversight hearing because he was too busy running for president" Barack Obama who spends his time talking about change you can believe in instead of change you actually can count on. Change for Obama is to do nothing. How could anyone seriously think he could be qualified to be president when he can not even run a Sub Committee?
March 10, 2008 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
How could you vote for someone who has used such negative smear campaigns to try and get elected?
And please do tell us the experience that Clinton brings to the office. Make sure you mention Sinbad.
March 10, 2008 11:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Which Beatle was Obama? Billy Preston?
Hillary does have experience. Obama will have advisers to rely on. "Experience" on CiC is overrated but Hillary did Obama a favor by "attacking" his credentials. Mccain would do this too. It is not a secret he's a one-term senator. If he can't get an answer to beat Hillary now, then he can't get one to beat McCain.
March 10, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
What really pisses me off about Kurtz's advice is that fact, Obama's a little busy right now, fighting against an opponent who is attacking him on a daily basis even though she has no legitimate chance of winning the nomination.
Of course, Kurtz and TPM have been one of the biggest megaphones broadcasting every attack against Obama throughout the primary, and then demanding that he respond to each one of them.
I think Obama is smart not to start fighting a two-front war at this stage, regardless of what David Kurtz may think. Kurtz's eagerness to broadcast every smear suggests that he may have an agenda other than what's best for Barack, however.
March 10, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that Obama does not need to retaliate against every Hillary attack, but the security challenge is the most effective attack that she's launch against him during the entire campaign, and he does need to offer a better response. Not just against Hillary, but also against McCain. This issue isn't going to go away when the primary is over.
March 10, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
What evidence do you have that the national security issue was effective, other than that it has gotten the writers here at TPM all atwizzle?
If the campaigns had anyhting to do with last Tuesday, then NAFTAgate is what helped her in OH, which was the only surprise of the day. She won the popular vote in TX by three points, which was well within recent polling (and still showed a huge gain for Obama from two or three weeks prior), and that's where she played the 3 a.m. scare card. She still lost the caucuses and the delegate count.
I think it's easy to mistake pundit (including bloggers) noise for facts on the ground. And the evidence that this whole CiC thing has gained her any ground seems pretty nonexistent to me.
March 10, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Impossible to quantify of course, but I certainly perceive a bigger splash from this ad than, say, from the plagiarism issue or the other stupid attacks. The only specific poll I could find (though I didn't look very long) is from Newsweek:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/119953/page/2My point, which is backed up by the poll, is that however important this issue is, Obama has not satisfactorily addressed it, and it's not going to go away in the general election because McCain will focus on it. Obama needs a better strategy.
March 10, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
katjam, that is very well-said, particularly this:
"If the Democrats fail to bring in crossover voters and more importantly energized young voters who can be part of the long term strength of the party we will continue to be on the losing side of elections."
Hillary, though I still respect her as a senator and acknowledge that she is an excellent candidate, appeals primarily to the 60+ crowd. This is fine, except for exactly what katjam said. She doesn't have a broad appeal and isn't inspiring the younger generations. I can't see that McCain is, either.
The last few decades have chosen presidents who are still chasing the issues and conflicts of the 1960s. The world has changed. We are in need of a fresh administration that can acknowledge and address these changes.
It's time to vote for the future.
March 10, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Get off this experience thing. This election is about change, not experience. Hillary seems to have effectively neutralized Obama's lead as a change candidate by arguing that she, too, is a change candidate (if by nothing more than being a woman.) Since they are both change candidates, Hillary can take the battle to "experience". Change and experience. I think that has worked well for her.
Rather than accepting that battle, Obama needs to take it back to change. Continue to articulate why Hillary does not, in fact, represent change. He has done that in the past (see SC victory speech) and I think is most effective with that argument.
March 10, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Part of this push back is going to be the obvious tactic of pointing out that she can't have her cake and eat it too. She can't do her best Zell Miller impersonation one minute in praising the Republican above Obama and then the next say she wants to see Obama as VP.
Of course, the most disturbing thing about the VP offer from Bill and Hillary, as she is clearly losing, has been the *old-time-white-Southern-Democrat* feel to the metaphoric act of them putting Obama in his place by symbolically sending him to the back of the bus. I guess they think that will play well with their demographics. If so, I would like to see a shift in the party that welcomes new faces and sends these "Reagan Democrats"(as Bill Clinton called them yesterday) back to the Republican side.
March 10, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama attracts the Reagan democrats who respond to positives. The Clintons attract the southern culture Reagan democrats who respond to negatives.
Negative motivation coils in on itself and becomes painful unless pressure relieved by episodic spewing of more venom. Positive energy is expansive, and though less dramatic, is more powerful overall. [No wonder the Clinton camp is desperate to pull Obama into using their brand of self-defeating negative tactics]
March 10, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get off this experience thing. This election is about change, not experience. Hillary seems to have effectively neutralized Obama's lead as a change candidate by arguing that she, too, is a change candidate (if by nothing more than being a woman.) Since they are both change candidates, Hillary can take the battle to "experience". Change and experience. I think that has worked well for her.
Rather than accepting that battle, Obama needs to take it back to change. Continue to articulate why Hillary does not, in fact, represent change. He has done that in the past (see SC victory speech) and I think is most effective with that argument.
March 10, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Spokesman Wolfson says flatly: “Senator Obama has not passed the commander in chief test.”
This was in the media conf call just now.
March 10, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kurtz's slip is showing. Just as Marshall's did several days ago. Now you know why this site ran as much McClinton/Wolfson negativity as they could cut and paste last week. My guess is they will keep pounding away at this. They are Clinton aged Dems. This is the fun stuff.
I like this bit too:
Uh... Leading in terms of delegates. Leading in terms of most states won. Leading in terms of most votes.
Kurtz needs to point out one thing that Clinton is actually leading in. I mean besides the fun stuff. Her ugly attacks are alienating massive amounts of democrats right now. And the real mistake being made by Kurtz and Marshall is the assumption that should McClinton steal this thing, the alienated are going to hold their nose and vote for her.
Sorry. But this election cycle is different. They are seriously misreading the dynamics at play here. The democrat party will be seriously injured. And no, don't bother pointing out to me that the public has shown they will be happy with either candidate. That is certainly true now. But wait until it gets stolen. That's a different mood altogether now. More like passionate rage fueled by massive disillusionment.
March 10, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think in general Hillary's lack of foreign affairs tact is worrisome. Not meeting with Segolene Royal? Being too excited about being Commander in Chief and trying to prove again and again that she is not a weak woman and can lead armies? Ultimately, I don't think Obama should play this game too much on her terms because I think he has a clearer understanding of the nature of the world and the coming challenges more than she does with her increasingly more unilateralist talk. I wrote about this the other day in a reader blog - check it out:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/foreign-policy-credentials-ple.php
March 10, 2008 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll probably lose some karma for this but I heard someone say...
If proximity to the President qualifies Hillary as "Commander in Chief" doesn't that imply that Monica Lewinski qualifies for Secretary of State?
March 10, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Forget all the military folk... If I were Obama, I'd point out that, at one of the most critical moments in our nation's history, the country elected a President who, with great oratory skills but only two years in the House. His name: Abraham Lincoln.
March 10, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
BTW I found a fantastic article…A MUST read for EVERYONE “The Hussein Dynamic” at http://savagepolitics.com.
Brilliant writing that goes beyond what the MSM is feeding us!!!!
Here is an excerpt: “The issue of Barack Obama’s religious definition has captivated many Americans to the point were charges of terrorism and counter charges of racism have been thrown into the fray of the discussion, aimed at either side. To many Liberal Americans, whether or not Obama is a Muslim (or was a Muslim) is irrelevant to the feelings of “hope” and “change” that he inspires in them, which they consider to have a higher merit than petty religious or ethnic associations. To many Conservative Americans, the mere allocation of any candidate within the realm of Islam is sufficient reason to vote against him, irrespective of the details that may lie in the penumbra of his personal story. Either way, it is impossible for any citizen to make an intelligent assessment of either perspective, without knowing the details and the relevant information regarding Mr. Obama’s past. Unlike the Mainstream Media, who has automatically assumed that Obama has no relation to Islam, in a vague attempt to paint themselves as “reasonable” and “progressives”, most thinking citizens should not follow suit. There is ample evidence to make any reasonable citizen conclude that the Obama campaign and the Media have been hiding some crucial elements of this candidate’s past that should become widely known and discussed in the open. Let us then ask ourselves; Is Barack Obama a Muslim?” get the rest at http://savagepolitics.com/?p=171
March 10, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Brilliant"?
More like "Hilarious".
Go back to LGF, you freeper.
March 10, 2008 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Barack just delivered the big slapdown to the Clintons' VP offer. And it was a beautiful thing. You'll see it many times over the next few days.
March 10, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anybody seeing a huge disconnect between the media coverage of the race and the actual race?
If you support Obama, I know you have.
Barack is going to have won the delegate count in 4 of the last 6 primaries and 15 of the last 17. He'll have about 130 delegate lead going into Penn. But Because he lost two states in which he never, ever lead in the poll total his campaign is in danger?
I'm enjoying watching the pundits and Clinton supporters lambast Obama as an amateur for not playing their game. And then he just keeps on winning elections and racking up delegates.
Folks, anyone who thinkts that a candidate with a 100 plus delegate advantage going into Denver isn't going to get the nomination is absolutely fooling themselves.
Let the Pundits and Clintonites pat themselves on the back because they understand "the way the game works." As Obama supporters, we have to be willing to sit back and let these folks talk themselves to death. Hillary has already lost her brief lead in the national polls. She is about to lose another state by 10+ points.
Heck, let them revote in Florida and Michigan. Obama is already tied in the polls in Michigan. If he can keep Hillary to a ten point win in Florida and wins Michigan himself then her biggest argument will have run its course with out getting her any closer to the nomination.
What we need now is the patience to put up with all of the spin and bs between now and Denver. Everything else is just a silly little game that is not affecting the outcome whatsoever.
March 10, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
"BTW I found a fantastic article…A MUST read for EVERYONE “The Hussein Dynamic” at http://savagepolitics.com.
Brilliant writing that goes beyond what the MSM is feeding us!!!! "
Wow - awesome article. Bascially sourced by two people who knew Obama in Indonesia as a child - one who's quote seems to make him an expert on Obama's father's life in Kenya(about 10,000 miles from Indonesia) and the other who knew Obama as a child but somehow knew that Obama was a Muslim until he married Michelle in his 30s. .
Thank you, I just sent Obama another $25 bucks just because of you.
March 10, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lincoln wrote his own speeches. He was also supported by his party. And he gave his anti-war speech on the floor of congress. But Obama did do more community organizing, as far as I know.
March 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink