Obama Already On Air In Indiana And North Carolina
Barack Obama has a new ad in Indiana, a state widely believed to be an even bet between himself and Hillary Clinton. In the ad, Obama talks about how he'll work to fight plant closures and protect American jobs — a pitch clearly aimed at working-class white voters:
Obama is also on the air in North Carolina, which will vote along with Indiana on May 6, and where he's expected to come out on top:
Obama victories in both these two states would go a long way in forcing Hillary out, especially with Indiana not being viewed as automatic territory for either one of them — but the fact that he's already running these ads means he expects the contest to keep dragging on after Pennsylvania, where Hillary is expected to win on April 22.








Comments (39)
Working to "fight plant closures and protect American jobs" is a pitch aimed not at working-class voters, Eric, but specifically at working-class white voters? Really?
March 28, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, because heaven (and Mr. Kleefeld!) knows us working-class Blacks don't have such concerns...sheesh.
March 28, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Scientific, didn't you know, as KRS-One once said, "like all my people eat chicken and watermelon/talk broken English and drug sellin'". There is NO WAY Obama could be appealing to Black people by talking about jobs and decent schools! Only Hillary backers care about that!
And they will be so surprised if Hillary somehow gets the nomination and Black people don't vote for her . . . .
March 29, 2008 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
There may be nothing nefarious in that statement, that is the demographic he needs most to crush her there.
March 28, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, good point, that. I guess I'd sort of forgotten Clinton was still in the race.
March 28, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's made it clear that she's going to stay in it for now and she's definitely going to win in Pennsylvannia, so it makes sense for Obama to start campaigning in Indiana and North Carolina.
March 28, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, by merely saying she's in it, she'll win PA? I understand what you really meant, but follow the logic of what you just posted.
March 28, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's another explanation. Running these ads now are also a good way for him to define himself in those states using the money he's got now, but helping him reach out to voters in the general election states.
Smart.
March 28, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aren't there working class white and Hispanic voters in Indiana, too?
March 28, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
d'oh! meant to say "Aren't there working class black and Hispanic voters in Indiana, too?"
March 28, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
"but the fact that he's already running these ads means he expects the contest to keep dragging on after Pennsylvania"
Disagree. All it means is he's hedging his bets.
If he does lose delegates in Pennsylvania, he wants the biggest possible wins in the next few states to regain and extend his lead.
Also, the more he pulls ahead in North Carolina and Indiana, the more people in Pennsylvania may be convinced that a vote for Clinton is futile at this point and that could be reflected in the actual vote there.
I'm not arguing with the idea that the contest will continue after Penn (I agree), but I think you've oversimplified Obama's strategy here.
March 28, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually I think what it means is he's trying to run her into the ground in Pennsylvania. She doesn't have the money to compete in any of the states, is my guess. What's the size of her Pennsyvlania ad buy? Last I saw, she had 1 or 2 ads up, but no indication of the size of the buy.
March 28, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really, really like that Indiana ad. It's exactly the right message.
March 28, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. Very nice ad.
March 28, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I especially like that there is NO music at all. What a simple ad - just Obama standing there talking and yet it is pure magic.
March 28, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
One after another, again and again, this guy brings substance, nuance, and eloquence to the serious issues facing this country.
How could we not elect him to lead us?
GObama '08!
March 28, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Quote: "but the fact that he's already running these ads means he expects the contest to keep dragging on after Pennsylvania, where Hillary is expected to win on April 22"
Either that or he's -- gasp! -- looking ahead. He has a plan for "after Pennsylvania."
March 28, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Money talks ..bullshit walks...Clinton's broke
March 28, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
this doesn't hurt for the general either.
March 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
He should show the Indiana ad in western Pa. It would really resonate here as well.
March 28, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love the leather bomber in the first ad(now he needs to start wearing that jacket from now until November-WEAR IT, Barack, it's goddamn sexy). I also loved that picture of Barack in the cowboy hat in Texas--he needs to start wearing more things that push his badass quotient through the roof.
The second ad: I thought the "you're on your own" part was poorly phrased. He needed to attribute this to Bush-McCain, the way he was saying it the other day. Minor slip-up, but it's potentially a very confusing ad.
March 28, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why the f*ck do you have to say working class WHITE voters?
Do you really have to pull something like that our of your butt and make this about race?
What the hell is wrong with you?
March 28, 2008 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Calm down, Jimmy. Eric is completely in the bounds of the discussion that is going on right now. See for example, this article in the Washington Post:
White Working-Class Voters Fuel Clinton's Comeback ...
The "white working-class" demographic is the demographic that is supposed to be HRC's strength.
March 28, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Also, the more he pulls ahead in North Carolina and Indiana, the more people in Pennsylvania may be convinced that a vote for Clinton is futile at this point and that could be reflected in the actual vote there."
Good thinking.
March 28, 2008 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
". . . but the fact that he's already running these ads means he expects the contest to keep dragging on after Pennsylvania, where Hillary is expected to win on April 22."
Nooooo . . . it means they're working a strategy where there are multiple possible outcomes and going on the air in NC and Indiana is a good idea in all events. Running ads there now both builds his polling lead in North Carolina and starts building one in Indiana and demonstrates his strong financial advantage. Both of these help potentially demoralize her supporters and contributors and put pressure on Hillary to quit.
And, even if she she "suspends" her campaign before then, he still has to actually win in those states. If he went limp and then Hillary did better there than expected despite not actively campaigning, all of a sudden her coffin creaks open once again.
March 28, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree - saying the pitch is clearly aimed at working class white voters buys into the micro managed targeting associated with the Clinton campaign. That is the mindset that got Clinton into trouble in the first place.
I don't think it is a sign of giving up on PA - Obama can afford to do all three, and force Clinton to spend dwindling resources outside of PA.
March 28, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Black voters already overwhelmingly support Obama. By specifying "white voters" Eric may have meant the main undecided audience the ad hopes to sway.
March 28, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
B.O.'s been 3 steps ahead of the game since this thing started, all the more reason he'd make a great president. North Carolina doesn't matter anyway,too many blacks.As for Indiana,uh...too many Hoosiers!!
March 28, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
According to the Union Leader, New Hampshire has buyer's remorse: http://tinyurl.com/2eotce
March 28, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for the Leader link.
I was not aware that Bill Clinton was blaming New Hampshire Democrats for the Michigan and Florida debacle.
He's just to the point of...bizarre.
March 28, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, not so much. I lived in Indiana for nearly 30 years until about 2 years ago.
Indianapolis has a significant black population, as well as do parts of the "region" (the Lake Michigan/Chicago suburb area dominated by steel mills) such as Gary.
Other than that, Indiana is whiter than Wonder Bread.
March 28, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure he meant primarily to gain more support from working-class white. Actually, to tell you the truth, when I first read it, I didn't even notice white.
March 28, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Those are both really good commercials. Those are messages to will beat McCain.
March 28, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
A thread of reasonable length WITHOUT ONE STINKING TROLL.
Breathe the air of freedom, ladies and gentlemen.
And don't feed the trolls when they come back.
With regard to Obama's campaigning: I don't think we have adequately measured the degree to which Obama is a party guy, a Chicago Democrat. He hasn't "attacked" HRC. He has disagreed with a number of her positions, seldom dramatically. He has suggested that her claims of extensive governing experience are at the least "special". He has never suggested that she wouldn't make a good president, and he has never said that he wouldn't support her if she won.
Whatever one's imagination brings in, about the supposed hatred between them - as long as you act properly in party terms, you aren't obligated to reveal whether your liking for someone is "genuine". By this long-established standard, HRC has done almost all the attacking. Even in South Carolina, Obama barely expressed annoyance at being tag-teamed.
Sure there are campaign operatives and surrogates that say things that are later soft-pedaled or disavowed by candidates. That is the reason for having surrogates! It isn't automatically dog whistle politics. Obama has studiously refrained from suggesting that HRC is somehow less capable because she is a woman, and he really has not said a word about the causes celèbres of the Clinton administration. One little blue dress reference does not a dog whistle make.
As a result of Obama's politeness, Hillary Clinton has been able to define herself in the public consciousness almost without interference. Think of this. Almost all her voting support has been inherited from Bill via name recognition. She has some extra support from women in most areas. She could have portrayed herself as Eleanor Roosevelt in a pantsuit. She could have channelled Aristotle.
Instead, she has created a public persona that reminds me of a yappy little dog with dyed fur. In her image gyrations she has actually managed to look very pretty at times...which makes it especially regrettable that she has become an angry, indignant, frowning, grimacing character. This campaign went through the looking glass for Hillary somewhere between "I am honored to be here with Barack Obama" and "Shame on you, Barack Obama".
She lost the very first Presidential primary she was in. She should have won it; she lost it because of her diffidence. She only got geared up for campaigning after she had actually lost. And while her desperate energy is impressive (the way a four-car pileup is), she absolutely has not demonstrated anything like the legendary wonkitude of the early Bill Clinton.
Reagan could make you feel that everything was OK in a radio speech, and you could digest your meal. Clinton would actually get you thinking that "it could be done", whatever it was, without damaging corporate profits and portfolio returns! HRC talks a pretty good game, but it's always in this me-against-the-big-boys mode that swaps feistiness for deft policy argument. Policy is not a sleeping pill. It is possible to talk policy to the voters and make sense. But you have to really understand the underlying situation - that is, you have to bridge the gap between a judgment about the most important statistics at this point in time, and the narrative and anecdotal items that can clinch the argument in voters' minds.
The dominant theme now is HRC's brilliant Senate career. She's to become the Ted Kennedy of our generation. Well, she can start by becoming truthfully expert on ONE major area of policy. I'm not talking about areas regarding which she can talk the legs off chairs. Bill cared about the people. He felt their pain, and it seemed true. At bottom I am not quite able to believe that HRC truly cares about anything except winning. For that reason I am glad that she won't be the first woman President, because I should very much like to admire the first woman President.
If Hillary Clinton had presented herself in ANY other way - if she had come across as thoughtful, measured, sober, respectful, conciliatory, self-deprecatory, really tolerant, self-assured, at home anywhere in America...if she had made herself likable, in short - she'd be winning. What her campaign has measured, by draining to the bottom, was the amount of feeling America had for the way it went down from 1998 to 2000. Not only did the country choose wrong, but Hillary herself was owed a debt of respect for having been humiliated in the press.
We wanted to like her; somehow we suspected we would have a hard time doing it; now the thought of seeing her BLAME OTHERS for things she'll be responsible for, for four years on TV almost makes me want to leave the country.
Her Iraq vote, like her husband's draft letter, was given for the sake of "political viability". If she was really a hawk, that would be one thing. But she is neither hawk nor dove. On health care, it's apparent that she would allow the benefits to be reduced in order to make sure the "universal" label sticks - and therefore her entire program could fail to be comprehensive reform. It could end up as little more than a temporary health care subsidy, a sort of economic stimulus.
At another time I'll analyze the positions that Obama PROBABLY holds, far beyond what he's said. Oh, yes, he is an iceberg candidate. He is probably more progressive than he has let on. I WANT him to keep his cards close to his chest because I trust his power of analysis. He's not spilling everything for Hillary, nor will he for McCain. But that paradoxically is part of getting things done in actual fact.
March 28, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Should someone check on ice cream head? Make sure he's okay?
March 28, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I must confess this is a rather grim development for Hillary. Slate has begun a Hillary Deathwatch meter which they say they will update daily as events unfold. They did a similar thing with Alberto Gonzales, so I don't know if that is the kind of association Hillary would appreciate.
As of today, they rate Hillary's chances of winning the nomination at 12%, which they say is somewhat more generous than her own campaign's 10%. Other analysts put it closer to 5%. They do not describe their methodology, so until they do, I would have to guess that they are relying heavily on their Delegate Meter technology.
Hillary supporters may not want to make a habit of going there, as it may be a depressing experience, or exhilarating, as events unfold. Take your choice.
http://www.slate.com/id/2187558/
March 28, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Barack is in a good position in Pennsylvania, he really is just now starting to campaign there and he is only 10 points behind. With Casey on the bus I think he may be able to close the gap quite a bit more. Obama came up 20% in Texas and Ohio in two weeks. He has over three weeks in Pennsylvania to close a 10% gap. Since Hillary needs to win huge in Pennsylvania, she must be worried.
The white vote percentages in Ohio and Texas were greatly influenced by Republican mischief. As a Texan, I can tell you that was a real factor here in the primary, we know a lot of Republicans who voted for Hillary just to mess with the nomination process. I'm really tired of the media ignoring that fact, and stating Obama has a white vote problem based on those two states. I don't think he does. Without the Republicans voting for her just to keep the race going, Obama would have won the Texas primary and been very close in Ohio; this election would be over. Hillary and Bill know that they are still in the race only because of Republican mischief in Texas and Ohio (Bill went on the Limbaugh radio show the day of our vote)and that those votes won't be there in November. So I believe Obama's problem with the white blue collar vote has been overhyped.
March 29, 2008 3:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I guess he could go the other route. Pick a date on which the campaign will be over by his rosy estimate, and do no planning or advance groundwork for anything after that date.
Hillary's campaign was set up that way, and it worked out really well for her, didn't it?
March 29, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
One thing Hillary supporters don't seem to understand:
It's not even that Black voters support Obama all that much. It's that, after all the b.s. she has pulled, they f*ckin' hate Hillary! A Black lawyer friend told me that Hillary reminds him of people in his past . . . patronizing White liberals who had no problem with you as long as they were in the position of seeming superiority. But outscore them on an exam . . . land a job that they wanted . . . get into a better graduate school. Then you will hear the "affirmative action" discussion, how "great" it is the Black person was able to "take advantage" of their race.
Remind you of anyone . . . Geraldine Ferraro saying Obama would not be where he was if he wasn;t so "lucky" to be Black? Or Hillary writing off Louisiana because "they have a larger African American population that is excited about my opponant's candidacy . . . and that's great." That, my Hillary-backing friends, is why she will never be president. Because she has pissed off and pissed away a loyal (probably TOO loyal) Black base.
March 29, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink