Hillary Rodham Clinton voted for the war that wasted all those lives.

John McCain voted for the the War. He wants to maintain and endless war in Iraq.

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has endorsed WAr Monger McCain for Commander in Chief ahead of Senator Obama.

Since Hillary voted for the war, and has endorsed War Monger McCain, you should not trust her to end the war.

Hillary is the new Lieberman.

"Obama describes the war as something that "should never have been waged," but he stops short of adding that the war "should never have been authorized," a formulation he frequently uses that implicitly criticizes Hillary's vote for the war."

You guys parse as brilliantly as any educated lawyer (I'm a pretty good judge of their logic). Unfortunately, I think the media over-analyzes just about every statement made by politicians of any stripe. The above, to me, seems to be a perfect example of it.

Basically, the question is, then, do politicians ever say anything (or their campaigns, for that matter) that may NOT be for political purposes?

Or, put another way, to politicians ever act like humans? Meaning, to they say certain things because they need to be said, rather than because people will give them more votes for that particular statement?

I think Obama has shown that. See his speech from last week for a further explanation....

In other words, Obama is quite properly refraining from injecting even the merest trace of politics into his reaction to this grim milestone.

Well, he's not interjecting intra-partisan politics, but the statement is certainly political. Not that that's a bad thing.

Four thousand of our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, are gone thanks to Dubya and those who gave him the authority to wage war. Over twenty thousand more maimed for life, and many more will suffer PTSD and other ailments for the rest of their lives.

All for what? Absolutely nothing. I have not even mentioned the thousands upon thousands of Iraqi citizens who have been killed and maimed. This war has been an unmitigated financial and humanitarian disaster.

I will always honor our brave men and women in our armed forces, but I spit on the president and those who gave him the power to create this clusterfuck.

I am glad Obama spoke without a hint of reference to Hillary. He is a class act all of the way, and this just shows it.

Obama is quite properly refraining from injecting even the merest trace of politics into his reaction to this grim milestone

Saying the war should never have been waged is a political statement. Just because one might be able to suggest it isn't aimed at Clinton doesn't make it less political.

Is it really not "politics" if it is only aimed at the Republicans in general or Bush in particular? It was a political statement. Not that I think there is anything wrong with that. But it is what it is.

How about that this isn't a time for politics. 4,000 dead is a big enough statement without getting into the stump speech.

Obama spewed he did not know how he would have voted if he was in the Senate.

He voted for it every single vote when he was in the Senate.

President Clinton is wright.

Its a fairy tale and why he did not make it political.

Equal opportunity (with typos corrected):

Hillary Clinton began a speech on the housing crisis here Monday by acknowledging the 4,000th U.S. fatality in Iraq, a milestone that occurred yesterday when four American soldiers were killed by an I.E.D. in southern Baghdad.

"I want to take a moment to note yesterday's heartbreaking news that five years after start of war there have been 4,000 U.S. military deaths in Iraq," she said.

"Tens of thousand of our brave men and women have also suffered serious wounds, both visible and invisible to their bodies, their minds, and their hearts. As president, I intend to honor their extraordinary service and sacrifice of them and their and their families by ending this war and bringing them home quickly and responsibly as possible."

Interesting to note she specifies "military deaths."

Greenly Greene, George W Bush went AWOL when in the service, instead of going to Viet Nam. What's your point? No one in the senate is in the service.Think about it.

lastquarter, I would expect George W Bush to issue a statement from the golf course about this somber milestone. It makes the milestone all that sadder that Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, is issuing important statements on the Iraq war from a beach in the Caribbean. I think the anti-war Obama - with his words from a beach - symbolizes true tragedy of this war.

all that sadder that Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, is issuing important statements on the Iraq war from a beach in the Caribbean. I think the anti-war Obama - with his words from a beach - symbolizes true tragedy of this war.

There are now 4000 dead Americans, and you think Obama in the Caribbean "symbolizes the true tragedy of this war"?

I think you need some perspective.

There's also Vice President Dick Cheney's apolitical comments about the 4000 (all-volunteer) U.S. deaths in Iraq.