Obama Offers Most Extensive Response Yet To Questions About Rev. Wright
In a long blog posting at The Huffington Post, Barack Obama has made his most detailed and extensive reply yet to the questions he's been hit by in recent days about his pastor, Jeremiah Wright.
In the post, Obama condemns Wright's comments in very strong terms -- ones far stronger than, for instance, his assertion today that he "disagrees" with the pastor's "God damn America" comment...
Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.
Note the explicit reference there to "any statement that disparages our great country" -- a clear, if unstated, reference, to the "God damn America" line.
Obama also attempts to answer the question of why he hasn't left the church by pointing to his ties to the church's larger community and to Wright's sunsetting career...
The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. But because Rev. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church.
The post doesn't repudiate Wright himself or say anything about whether Wright will be allowed to keep his largely honorary post on the campaign's African American Religious Leadership Committee.
Obama's full post here.
Late Update: Obama is doing interviews with several major networks tonight, presumably to amplify his push-back on the Wright controversy.

Obamania is officially over, people. Done!
He can denounce, reject, whatever. Its over.
You don't sit through sermon after sermon on Sunday after Sunday and not have a clear idea that this guy is a bigot. Not only that, but you don't declare to the world that this guy is your "moral compass" and "mentor" without knowing what he is about.
God damn America? What do you think a tortured war hero will do with this? What will that war hero gain from combining this with Obama's admitted refusal to wear the American flag? What will that war hero gain when he combines all of this with Michelle Obama's declaration that until recently she has never been proud of the US?
Answer: the presidency and utter humiliation of the Democratic Party.
Its time to face the music: Obamania is over.
March 14, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Keep dreaming.
Obama didn't say these things. These aren't even rescent quotes.
I know you Hillary fans want to make everything into the death of Obama, but it won't work.
March 14, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Putz.
March 14, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
If that was necessary, all Catholics in the world should immediately renounced and denounce the church. So should all Lutherans, Protestants, and so on and so on.
March 14, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
now we're talking! that sounds like a fantastic idea.
March 14, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice try. What church does Hillary go to?
March 14, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is a member of the Fellowship, a super secret group of religious wackos like Tancredo and Santorum.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html
March 14, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillarymania is officially over, people. Done!
She can denounce, reject, whatever. Its over.
You don't sit through Senate hearing after hearing, Monday through Friday, and not have a clear idea that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11. Not only that, but you don't declare to the world that Hussein is an imminent threat without knowing what he was about.
Voting for war? What did you think a man like President Bush would do with this? What did you think Republicans with their fake-patriotic flagpins would do with such authorization? What will you say to the mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, of slain military men and women?
Answer: you will say nothing, thus humiliating the Democratic Party.
Its time to face the music: Hillarymania is over.
March 14, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ron Paul for President! Oh wait...
Ralph Nader for President!! No, wait, that didn't work out so good in '00...
Wait! I know!
WALKEN 2008!!!! "It's time to get America back on track!"
http://www.walken2008.com/
March 14, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Spot on Hoost. How is it that her iraq elective war vote and the death and destruction that flowed from it is never, ever, ever a topic or discussion in the right-wing media? Why? Kinda makes you wonder.
March 14, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently, a tortured war hero would embrace the support of John Hagee, a man who has said and who will continue to say things far, far worse than any of this.
March 14, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to mention Rod Parsley:
http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/03/john-mccain-rod-parsley-spiritual-guide.html
March 14, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hagee has called for the destruction of the United States. Don't believe me? OK, what do you call Armageddon and the apocalypse other than a war to bring about the destruction of the earth? Last time I looked, the United States were part of the Earth. So therefore, if you call for a war to destroy or at least turn the surface of the Earth into scorched earth so the Jesus can return, you are calling for the destruction of America.
The Armageddon/End Times folks are, by their desires, traitors. Plain and simple!
March 14, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
sorry, no sale.
john hagee isn't mccain's personal spiritual adviser, and didn't marry he and his wife. and he certainly hasn't been sitting in hagee's church for 20 years.
March 15, 2008 4:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're really, really dreaming if you think McCain is going to use this - any of this - in any sense whatsoever. He's already receded from trying in the past 36 hours, because he knows that his own record of accepting endorsements from ideologues will be drawn into the light.
No, you'll hear none of this from the GOP. Some 527's might try to bring it up, but they'll only serve to damage McCain because of the resulting backlash about his own dodgy supporters.
March 14, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Riiiight. Tell that to Hagee, er, I mean Robertson, er I mean McCain. At worst, this will be declared a draw by the tit-for-tat MSM when viewed against the entire chorus of America-haters on the religious right. Or did you forget that liberals were responsible for 9/11, thanks to our gay-abetting ways?
It's just one more chance for Hillary's most desperate supporters to whip up PR for the GOP in the GE and display their hypocrisy where it belongs: front and center.
Center-right, that is. Just go campaign for McCain already.
March 14, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you can provide some direct quotes and sources of bigoted comments Wright has said during sermons in which Obama has been present, please do so.
March 14, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. Over 20 years AND over $22,000 in tithes to this guy and his church.
To say he renounces NOW ... NOW that he's running for president and it's politically embarrasing?
Why didn't he get up and walk out the first time her heard that garbage?
answer: Because he agreed with it.
Rae
March 14, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
And every Catholic who continues to give money and attend the church after its many, many incidents of abuse of children by priests is . . . a pedophile?
Wow but the Clinton Cult isn't grasping at literally anything right now.
March 14, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
So you were at Trinity every Sunday for the last 20 years? Unless you got evidence that EVERY sermon or even a MAJORITY of the sermons preached by Wright were "racists" or "bigoted" then I suspect you are talking out of your ass.
Seriously, post the egregious stuff that you believe this guy was spewing under the UCC banner. Otherwise, take your ass to Hillaryis44 with this weak shit.
March 14, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess you couldn't be bothered to actually read Obama's response, eh?
March 14, 2008 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see you continue to post lies here with your racist illustrated avatar (why not go with some little black Sambo children's illustrations while you are at it) and thanks for keeping to low standards of lies, misdirection, venom and bigotry. Well played.
March 14, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
And i see you're still lurking back in the shadows Mr. Keith Oberman.
March 14, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does your comment above make sense even to you?
Maybe you should provide a decoder ring for the rest of us who are not a whacked out anti-Obama trolls so we can at least make an honest attempt at unpacking your blather.
March 14, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, yeah it does, Mr. Keith Oberman. We know its you.
btw, do you think Rev. Wright would let me attend Obama's church this Sunday?
Rae
March 14, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a lame interview you just did with Obama!
March 14, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are such a loon!
March 14, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean the one where Sen Obama said that his pastors statments angered and distressed him? What did you not like about it?
March 15, 2008 1:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, we can add full-on delusional to your list of "charms".
March 14, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who is Keith Oberman?
March 14, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
If you don't know, you don't need to... really you are missing anything.
March 15, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Answer: You didn't read the article.
March 14, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Au contraire, Clinton Cultist! I'm looking forward to eight more years of Obamamania!
And keep the upside of this particular attempt to take him down in mind: it should now be clear to absolutely every one that he is, in fact, a Christian.
March 14, 2008 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's funny, but you are correct and long term, that might not be a bad thing, obviously. If you weigh the scales and the loons like insanity and lush's talk. Would you rather have them talk about a muslim manchurian candidate oooooorrr a member of a christian church with a looney pastor. God does work in mysterious ways. I still believe in my heart that God is a dem.
March 14, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Obamania is officially over, people. Done!"
When will Obama-detractors stop embarrassing themselves? I know its called "wishful thinking", but on some level you have to wonder when the padded rooms and the fecal matter smearing starts to come into this.
March 14, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama is over, that should make you happy. Why then do you sound so angry?
March 14, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I totally agree. I want to win in November and we are not going to do it with this guy. Obama is not ready. And this is only the beginning. Exactly how friendly is he with Minister Farrakhan? What else does Michelle Obama have to say? How did he buy his house? Exactly how and why did Rezko buy the lot next to Obama's house? How did Obama buy half of the lot? And don't tell me that the media has already looked into it and Obama hasn't done anything wrong. Everything is now going to get a closer look. Scarry isn't it? And that is not even taking into account his electability issues in the general election, a close look does not look good. I hate to say this but I don't want to lose in November and this has to be said, The Bradley Effct will not kick in until September.
March 14, 2008 7:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, I guess if its not obama, its mccain. Are you happy now? There is no way the clintons get a third term. Not in the cards, sorry.
March 14, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama bought his house with an arcane financial instrument called a mortgage. If my own experience with such esoterica is any guide, he probably still holds it. A mortgage is also how Rezko bought the lot next to the house, except he put it in his wife's name because he thought that would protect it from any financial judgments against him (he was, of course, under indictment). The only thing that Obama gained from the transaction was the owner's agreement to sell, which he would only do if both house and lot were bought. No financial benefit.
Then, later, Obama bought a 10-foot strip of the lot from Rezko to widen his yard. An appraiser valued the parcel at $40,500. Because Obama wanted to avoid any appearance of shady dealing, instead of this price he offered 1/6th of what Rezko had paid for it, because the parcel was indeed 1/6th of the entire plot. That was $104,500. I can only imagine that, having accepted a pretty big and probably ill-advised favor from a supporter whose legal troubles were now deepening, he was extra-sensitive to any such appearances.
The funny thing is, if you really wanted to know the answer to any of these questions, and not just to raise a big scary question mark over the mysterious way-too-handsome candidate with the big scary preacher, you might in short order have found those answers on THIS VERY SITE.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/obama_rezko_purchase.php
Any questions?
March 15, 2008 12:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
How does ANYONE know how LONG Wright has been preaching like this. How do we know he said things like this when Obama was there...a look at the church's website doesn't say ANYTHING like what Wright is saying on the tapes
March 14, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
How do we know how long you have been sexually abusing small kittens?
March 14, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Team Obama managed to plan out (correctly i might add) every win/loss in this entire primary season and knew exactly what it was going to take to win this nomination over the heavily favorite Hillary Clinton, but, for some reason, they just didn't plan for this possibliity? Please. Limbaugh-Hannity-Dobbs-ect may scream about this to the four winds, but come this time next week, this story is yesterday's news to everyone except Hillary partisians and the Faux-news cult
March 14, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I completely enjoy all the HRC love that litters these boards whenever something, ANYTHING comes about that so much as dusts Obama negatively. If anyone here is a church-goer, they'll probably agree that you don't necessarily choose your pastor, or your reverend or your priest. Someone else generally chooses for you. Yes, he probably could have left that particular church, but can anyone honestly say they know the full story? There's a lot that goes on in a church, a parish, a diocese, whatever aside from sermon on Sunday. There could and probably were many particulars about the church that were doing worlds more good than this garbage this idiot is spewing. Do I know that for a fact? No, I don't. But I think it's so short-sighted to simply jump on this as the nail in the coffin for a candidate. I'm certain there are none in Hillary's closet.
So, please, HRC supporters, spare us the gnashing of teeth. The whirlwind's pretty tough to control and it may just be headed back in your direction on a whim. That and anything to turn the tide of the Ferraro claptrap of the last few days. Whew. Thank goodness!
I was beginning to wonder how we would spend the next six weeks if we simply had but one thing to discuss!
March 14, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are SO RIGHT. Obama is finished. Career over. The Obama Express is off the tracks and he's played his last card. He is defunct. Screwed. End of the line for Mr. Barack Hussein Negro Obama.
Thanks for posting this inspiration and totally true post. The only reason Obama has come this far is because of the color of his skin. He can't compete with us white folks.
Yours in mutual whiteness,
Geraldine
March 14, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
His quick response is sure to impress superdelegates when compared to the Ferraro debacle which Hillary still hasn't really disowned.
From TPM Reader Post: "Obama Pushes Back Against Controversy on YouTube"
by flufferwink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7piGy0u43c
His lead is undeniable and he will be the nominee.
March 15, 2008 3:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I understand that Oprah Winfrey used to belong to this church as well. She had the 'political smarts' to get out already. Her candidate would do well to take some cues from her.
March 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently he's entering the Lion's Den tonight and is going on Hannity's FNC show.
Nothing like a crazy Pastor to drill into people's heads that he's a Christian!
March 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama or Jeremiah Wright?
March 14, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good lord. Nothing satisfies folks. Maybe on Monday he'll have a cermonial flogging on GMA. Would that satisfy you?
March 14, 2008 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not enough.
March 14, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
You must be one of those 28 percenters.
March 14, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Calm, cogent, forthright. Can't ask for much more. Well done!
March 14, 2008 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Outstanding response and excellent leadership.
Standing by someone you love does not mean accepting everything they say and/or do without question.
He's done the right thing by repudiating Wright's ridiculous comments but also expressing his own views on those topics. And saying that Wright's comments ANGERED him isn't going to get the attention it deserves.
Obama is impressing me more every day.
March 14, 2008 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not bad. That's what he's been doing in chicago. I like the way he doesn't condemn the people raising the issue. Very smart. It's the same way that he goes after mccain and clinton. I hope this puts a lid on the problem. I dunno. I can still see the sound bites. The problem is that it plays into what the clinton campaign has been promoting since new hampshire and what their plan of attack has been. That's a problem. The supers better get their act together or we will lose in november. They have to put a stop to this primary asap. Please madam speaker, step in and stop the madness.
The clintons will never win a third term, so its obama or mccain. Please lets stop the madness.
March 14, 2008 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Common, Michael A, I don't think you're that naive.
And as far as blaming her HC or her supporters for this, it was Fox and Limbaugh who broke these videos.
Rae
March 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well this commenting system sucks. Sorry for the double post. Here it is.
Of course you ignored the fact that I said I dunno, which would indicate that I'm not sure.
However, I am sure of the following concerning your candidate that is devastating:
1. Healthcare debacle
2. Travelgate
3. Whitewater
4. Vince Foster
5. Whitehouse teas
6. Lincoln Bedroom
7. Mark Rich pardon, among many bought and paid for
8. 130 million from kazakhstan nuke deal
9. Hundreds of millions to clintons' foundations in return for what? We already know rich paid 500,000 for a pardon
10. Iraq war vote causing deaths of hundreds of thousands, destruction of a country and trillions of dollars
11. Iran war vote, who knows what will happen with this over the next 9 months
12. I am sure there is more that I can't remember right now (I forgot the lewinski bj and other bimbo eruptions)
I'll take a risk on a looney pastor's statement before this garbage.
Baaaahhhhhh!!!
March 14, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, you forgot one very important thing. Bill Clinton is the only two term democrat since FDR. If Obama is the nominee I'm sure that he will join the ranks of the also rans - Mondale, Dukakis, McGovern, etc. I'm sure that will make you happy because it sounds like you are used to it. I want to win. Go Hillary!
March 14, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
You forgot one important thing - Actions speak louder than words. If clinton was a dem, I am the king of siam. He had the dem lable, but he was a right of center reganite. What were his gd great dem programs that he promoted? What did he do for the gd party?????? Nothing.
I got a funny. Schip was a republican program that was opposed by the clinton whitehouse. Is that hilarious or what.
Too funny.
March 14, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
please . these issues have been out there for years, you think the republicans can make hay of them now? keep dreaming.
very classy though - providing a playbook to the republicans.
i thought only HRC supporters were divisive and giving undue support to the republicans to use against against Obama?
oh right, i forgot. it's ok to bring up HRC's negatives, but not Obama's.
Got it.
March 15, 2008 4:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
"put a stop to this primary asap"
spoken like a true republi... oops, sorry, no hate speech from me!
so, here you go again, Michael A, my guy's ahead, so let's just stop the primaries? does obama have 2025 delegates yet?
i've been kinda under the weather and not following the news today... have all the superdelegates pledged themselves en masse to obama?
March 14, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude/gal, your candidate can't catch up, sorry. If the roles were reversed obama would have been gone 3 weeks ago and you know it. All the clintons are doing, again, is try to wreck the party and dems chances in 08. She's running for 2012.
By the way, any facts in the below article false:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/helping-to-elect-other-de_b_91454.html
Of course not, that's why I have been and always will be anybody but the clintons. The fact that obama is an awesome candidate and actually for the first time in over 25 years makes me happy and proud to pull that lever is just icing on the cake. It has always been the lesser of two evils, not this time. Sorry.
March 14, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, I think your assessment of the timing of this posting is incorrect.
The Wright business will be in the news all weekend- on the Saturday and the Sunday shows. Obama was able to get his response to the controversy into the mix of things, and therefore it will be available every time one of the talking heads brings this issue up.
Well, except for maybe Wolf Blitzer, who is just a goddamn idiot all around.
March 14, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is a reason they call it the Clinton News Network.
March 14, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, it goes even beyond the network as a whole. Blitzer is just a sputtering moron of the first order.
March 14, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't he get his start during the first Gulf War?
Blitzer is one of the things they are talking about when they talk about, "The hidden costs of war."
March 14, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn, if I had a buck for every time I've read a comment here from some Hill-Aid drinker declaring the imminent demise of Obama's candidacy over the last year, I wouldn't be contemplating picking up a Powerball ticket on the way home from work because I'd already be a millionaire.
March 14, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that they think that saying it over and over will make it true, like magic. If you look at who they support, it makes sense. After all, the Clinton campaign has been trying to call losing winning for over a month now.
March 14, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL.
March 14, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well that would certainly explain how they think they're going to catch up with him in the delegate count.
March 14, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remind me once again about what Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said about why God allowed 9/11 and Hurricanes to ravage America. Both of those chaps were National Christian Leaders, and yet none of their Big Time Republican Political friends were required to shun them.
Pat Robertson's endorsement was welcomed and accepted by Rudi, the mayor of 9/11.
I hope that Senator Obama reminds Fox Spews of that.
March 14, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are not permitted to point out the hypocrisy that is apparent in this nontroversy.
March 14, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right!?
The hypocrisy is pathological.
March 14, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for that liam!
I got so caught up in the doom and gloom threads around her, I forgot how easily people ignore / forgive hateful speech.
Now, I'm not saying what Wright has said equals to the outright hate like "Gay and pro-choicers caused 9/11!"
Which gives me great hope: Obama will be able to ride this out, and even further distance himself from a church that causes some to feel uncomfortable in the process.
"That which does not kill me, makes me stronger."
March 14, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wright also said that HIV was a government experiment designed to wipe out black people. Does that qualify?
March 15, 2008 4:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mired in two wars without any end in sight. Ecomomy heading south at a very frightening clip.
Our houses are losing equity if they haven't been lost completely. So I guess that logically means we can look forward to a fall campaign season who's main focus will be the "pastor wars". We'll have Obama's "God damn America" pastor duking it out with McCain's "the Catholic church is the great whore" pastor. Wonderful. Cant wait.
March 14, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's exactly that reason I think this will all be forgotten by the General.
This is good for Obama: get it out know, it he's Nominated, it means he's inoculated.
As the war gets worse, and the economy goes down the tube, why in the heck is anyone going to care what a retired 60-year-old pastor said a year ago?
March 14, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
hey bigwilli, it's a real honor having someone from the real world drop in! yeah, I've kinda heard things are getting really rough ...
you know, out there where folks try to deal with it in real terms etc ... hacking out the best survival routines they can manage ...
but I can only take so much mention of it at a time -- that's why I'm holing up here ... makes sorta a good filtering/diluting device that I use to cushion my delicate fragility from the harsher glare of 'reality' so to speak, and so on; see?
so please go easy; okay? thanks
xox
March 15, 2008 7:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now that's how one sincerely denounces & rejects.
McCain AND Clinton could learn a thing or twelve from Obama's statement.
March 14, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone who doesn't immediately recognize that this is political poison is out of touch...to say the least.
March 14, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Political poison, MkyleM? If this is political poison, then Hillary's fairly steeping her teabag in hemlock. Please open yourself up to reality as set forth in Michael A's post about the 12 reasons Hillary apparently is immune to political poison.
The nonsense is laughable. I suppose the next news cycle we can expect something along the order of Barack Obama is a Muslim who was educated as a terrorist in an ideological madrassa. Re-tread, debunked, nothing for it reaching from a desperate campaign.
And last, just out of curiosity, why do you see the Republicans attacking Obama and not Clinton? Indeed, why do you see righty talking heads like Limbaugh and Coulter asking for people to vote for Clinton? Because they know, as everyone else does, she won't be elected president against any nominee including the one they themselves don't feel confident in: John McCain.
But keep drumming whatever negative garbage you can.
March 14, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
vader52199 --
and in case it backfires, i.e. too many repugs actually go for HRC, sweeping her in to win it, that's not really too bad either, as she'd be as nearly as possible the closest thing to McCain/Monster anyway!
then it'd just be Monster/McCain I guess ...
this might confuse some of them for awhile, but not for long ...
but fortunately for us all, most of us are just tuning those rough and tough, hard old fogies with their fantastic follies freak show right out of our minds for the much better vision of a true leader with a soul that hasn't been utterly sold out ... a man with tender-hearted sympathies and brilliant mind who can move us together to save our country!
BHO you got it!!
(and thank god we're all so lucky because you're so lucky to be 'black', if that's how you made it to be here for us now!)
March 15, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. Obama has previously distanced himself from Wright and he's clearly explained himself here. This in no way finishes Obama. It certainly provides incendiary fodder for the right-wingers out there, but so does BO's middle name.
March 14, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
dojo23 --
although who needs incendiary fodder when you're already burning out of control from spontaneous combustion?
repug ashes (as well as repug asses) are blowing away, polluting the atmosphere, but the big rains are on their way and will be coming down hard to wash them out of sight and smell and all the way down the river ...
and we all will be able to breathe fresh and clean again -- no more choking corruption!
and that's just for starters! just imagine what else is possible!!
March 15, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
It appears the campaign has learned something after the Canada-gate fiasco. Respond promptly and unequivocally.
March 14, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg:
Obama will be appearing on the Hannity & Colmes show to address this issue. Also, Obama was home for only ten days last year, so it's very doubtful that he's heard the most recent Wright sermon.
I think this is a great response by Sen. Obama, and I'm glad he's spoken up on this.
March 14, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama really took Fox off his "dead to me list" for this? He is taking this seriously.
I mean that's major. Walking right into the asylum without so much as a hypo of thorazine.
I guess that's one way to show people how tough you are.
March 14, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
HuffPo, huh.
Jesus, talk about wading into shark infested waters. The average troll to regular poster ratio there is about 2 to 1. Good place for news, not a good place to have a mature discussiona about anything.
He might as well have posted this to youtube.
March 14, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hah!
March 14, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
funny how Obama supporters persistently call all non obama supporters, i.e., Clinton or McCain supporters trolls.
This is consistent with Obama and his church's teaching tho so we shouldn't be suprised.
Rae
March 15, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are a troll. And a pretty egregious one at that. I generally ignore your posts.
Many Clinton supporters here are not, and I can appreciate their arguments and their passion for their candidate, even while disagreeing with them.
HuffPo is famous for their trolls, and there was even a writeup not that long ago about some guy who claimed to be a "professional troll" for the right (read paid operative) who "organized" trolling at HuffPo.
It does seem as if the new layout has helped a bit with some of the trolling over there.
March 15, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
No. YOU'RE the troll.
March 17, 2008 12:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
The little blurb about the timing minimizing the exposure is pretty wrongheaded considering Obama is planning to hit Hannity and Colmes, CNN and MSNBC to discuss the matter further.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/A_Wright_media_tour.html
Obviously, that will get a lot of play regardless of the timing of the post at Huffpo.
March 14, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but it wouldn't be Greg if he didn't try in some way to minimize an Obama statement/story/poll/etc.
March 14, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Call me biased, but I think this is going to work out great for Obama. He strongly denounces the pastor but talks about his "faith community," his marriage and baptizing his daughters. This knocks down the Muslim slurs and marks him as the most authentic person of faith remaining in the campaign (which he most certainly is.)
I don't persoanlly believe that a candidate's faith is any of our business, but may do. And these words will speak volumes to them. They will resent the idea that he is being called upon to reject a pastor or a church because of things said in the pulpit.
March 14, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree completely.
Something tells me the same people who got the Muslim smear emails won't be able to reconcile those lies with the realities coming up in this discussion.
Though, 20% of this country still thinks Bush is the next coming of Christ so there's always a chance some still can hold these two diametrically opposed ideas as equal realities.
;-)
March 14, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is very shrewdly using this Reverend Wright nontroversy to scream: "Hey guys, I'm a CHRISTIAN!!!" Doing it as part of a response to this story is better than doing it in a vacuum or in direct response to the Muslim "smears", because this way he doesn't even have to legitimize those smears by discussing them directly.
Would you rather be seen as the Muslim Manchurian Candidate by impressionable voters, or the Christian Candidate With a Nutty Pastor? The answer is clearly the latter. A lot of religious Americans can identify with loyalty to their pastor and church home, even when their pastor says something they think is bonkers or even severely WRONG. As weird as it may seem to us "latte'-sipping bloggers", this could actually help Obama with religious voters.
March 14, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg -The post doesn't sever ties with Wright or say anything about whether Wright will be allowed to keep his largely honorary post on the campaign's African American Religious Leadership Committee. And it went up on a late Friday afternoon, when it's guaranteed to get less attention and make less news.
Me -Are you serious? It's on every news show, so there's no chance that it's getting less attention.
What's serially ridiculous is the fact that Obama has ALREADY denounced theses statements months ago. When Obama announced his run for the Presidency, he had the new Pastor at his side, NOT Jeremiah Wright.
Granted this is going to be a political problem, but I don't see it being much worse than McCain's Hagee endorsement.
In fact, McCain's own statement has already said that this is a non-issue. (Obviously this doesn't mean that GOP 527s won't go nuts over it, but do we REALLY think that the people that are fed up with Bush, Iraq, DoJ criminality, Lobbying Scandals are going to remember this bruhaha in 6 months?
Doubtful. It'll get a few ratings this weekend, until Hillary's camp says something stupid again...
March 14, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
The B to the H to the O. Eloquent, honest, steady and forceful. This is who I want answering the phone at 3am. Good show.
March 14, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's Kryptonite, love it.
Talk radio, ABC News won't let him off the hook by some statement 36 hours later to the ObamaPost or even his own cable network MSNBC.
Love the REVEREND Wright and his message of hope and change:
"Oh I am so glad that I got a God who knows what it is to be a poor black man in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people."
It's God Bless America, not God Damn America.
March 14, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or, as McCain's supporters say:
"God hates fags."
Actually, if you listen to the "christian" bigets that support McCain, they "God damn America" too! They're the ones saying 9/11 happened because of abortion. They're the ones that say Katrina was God's will against Gays!
I don't believe in God, but if I did, I hope he would damn those that murder in his name, before he damns the victims.
March 14, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
See, super geniuses like MP are so brainwashed by Bill O'really? that they don't see anything wrong with what you just wrote.
March 14, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why am I not surprised that you get your analysis from right wing talk radio.
March 14, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Talk radio, ABC News won't let him off the hook by some statement 36 hours later to the ObamaPost or even his own cable network MSNBC."
He's going to all three cable networks CNN, MSNBC and Fox News.
So what do you got to say about that?
March 14, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fox will be interesting, CNN runs from race issues and only puts lightweights on, MSNBC is suck up time on his won cable network. Tweety is talking about racism in the 3am phone call ad. That says enough about MSNBC.
March 14, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure Obama is going to miss the vote you never intended to cast for him.
March 14, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, it's God Nothing America because there is no god America. How do you like my Establishment Clause, fella?
March 14, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is you brain made of Mr. Softy?
You might want to change to Ben & Jerry or Haagen Daz.
Set your goals higher, dear.
March 14, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
And why exactly would God be blessing America? Because of the robbing of the poor by the rich? Because of the wars against nations that posed to threat to America? Because of the history of slavery and genocide of the native population of the Americas? The US is just like other rich and powerful nations in that it bullies and subjugates those who are weaker. Would I chose the same inflammatory words as did the Rev Wright? No. But I understand his sentiments and in many ways they are justified. If you cannot see this, you are blind to the sufferings of others and to the immoral deeds committed in your name.
March 15, 2008 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I note that the 'details' section of your profile says that if Hillary isn't the nominee, then you'll vote for McCain. That says plenty to me. By your own words you indicate that you will be happy with 100 more years of the Iraq war.
March 15, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that I got it wrong on the timing of the statement. he's going on the networks tonight to push back on this more.
March 14, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this chapter of the "kitchen sink" strategy is finished. This is the appropriate response from Sen. Obama. It is clear, direct, deliberate and emphatic.
For those of you who would continue the viral smears, it is time to find another target.
Obama on Countdown TONIGHT!!!
March 14, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good, he's getting out front very nicely.
As I said before, I continue to be amused by Hillary's concern trolls going where even McCain recognizes is not a useful place for HIM to go. Tells you everything you need to know about Hillary's dog-whistle racist campaign and the kind of people who respond to it.
March 14, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Marginal Player is a Republican troll, no doubt.
I suspect many "Hillary supporters" (not all!) are actually McCain trolls instead. It's sad, because it's jacked up the rhetoric here, and in many cases, for no good reason.
March 14, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nope, life long Dem. who did not vote for Carter in 1980 (John Anderson) and will vote McCain in 2008 if Obama is the Dem nominee.
I been through enough Dem losers. Obama is another.
March 14, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
re: "will vote McCain in 2008"
ergo, NOT a democrat
you're just here to stir up trouble, not contribute a single constructive original thought
March 14, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've been through enough blog trollers. You are another.
My advice to the rest of the sane commenters here is to stop feeding you.
March 14, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
1. I find that hard to believe.
2. Good, please vote for mccain and go play at redstate.com. I hear there is a link to hillaryis44.org there. She's running in the wrong primary.
March 14, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
That avatar sums you up perfectly. All ice cream up in your noggin. No substance.
March 14, 2008 11:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
funny how Obama supporters persistently call all non obama supporters, i.e., Clinton or McCain supporters trolls.
This is consistent with Obama and his church's teaching tho so we shouldn't be suprised.
What makes you think you Obama supporters only, have the exclusive right to be hear??
Rae
March 15, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
funny how Obama supporters persistently call all non obama supporters, i.e., Clinton or McCain supporters trolls.
This is consistent with Obama and his church's teaching tho so we shouldn't be suprised.
Rae
March 15, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's learned a great lesson from McCain here. He's aggressively getting out in front of this thing before it morphs beyond his ability to control.
To much of the country, Obama is a blank slate still. Many of the people that Obama wants to reach in November only know him vaguely, and this story has the potential to turn them away from Obama permanently. By getting his message out there now, he's reaching out to those people, and that's a good thing as long as his message is clear and not distorted by the media.
I do worry about the cumulative effect that this will have in conjunction with the Ferraro dust-up and the post 3 a.m. ad residue, but that narrative will be gone by Monday as long as this can be put to bed now.
March 14, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent post. One other point, it actually works to obama's advantage that its a friday. If he does well in the interviews and puts the kabash on the story and the noise, it will be old news over the weekend and by monday history. The press won't have a week to dwell on it. This could work out in the long run. Keeping my fingers crossed.
March 14, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Man, Greg left out the best bit:
"And while Rev. Wright's statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States."
March 14, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm pleased and impressed he chose HuffPo on which to post this. I'm also a bit surprised; it's a little under the radar from what I would have expected. In short, it caught me off guard, in a positive way.
In some way I sense he's speaking directly to the netroots, to the political blogs that only 10% of America reads, but the ones most aware of this issue.
It's the advance salvo in a battle he's bringing to the MSM tonight. Thing is, this particular battle, if properly played, can end up to his massive benefit - people will be forced to recognize that he's Christian, not Muslim, in order to understand this story at all. That can't be a bad thing.
Either way, with this post Obama simply proves to me again he's the man I want at this nation's helm. His honesty and emotional forthcoming is refreshing and his calm approach is much appreciated.
March 14, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The fact is that America was founded, in part, with the intention of seeing this false religion (Islam) destroyed" - Rev. Rod Parsley, spiritual adviser to John McCain
"All hurricanes are acts of God because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that." - Rev. John Hagee, endorser sought and lauded by John McCain.
Pot. Meet kettle.
March 14, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
A-fucking-men
March 14, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sweet. Let's hope this one plays loud and long; that the media focuses intensely on every aspect of Obama's relationship with his church; looks at which committees he was active on, what hymns they sang and what the preacher said at every sermon Obama attended since the 80s.
Because this scandal destroys the plausibility of the "Obama is a muslim" whispering campaign. Obama was never going to get the votes of bigots anyway, but once ordinary americans have seen Obama in the context of his (christian) so exhaustively, the fear and ignorance that the muslim smear depends on will have been largely eliminated.
March 14, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's going to be all Obama all the time this weekend connecting to conservative Christians all over the country. He won't be aiming at Reverent Wright's right wing equivalents; he can just talk to everyone in the middle. They've already started getting on board with economic justice and the environment; my guess is that we'll end up needing more boats just to fit them in.
And note the neutrality about religion: he models his life after Jesus (not Christ, which would turn me off), pursuing justice, equality, etc., etc., not the rabid prophets and saints. As I believe Jesus was a pretty good rabbi who got distorted after his death, if Obama's going to model himself on a Christian, he might as well make it a Jewish one.
Obama's post is exactly what I hoped it would be. Acknowledging that this is a fair question to have to answer. No resentment, no double-speak. You are part of the community, the pastor is not identical to the community, you separate spiritual advice from political advice, and you are able to articulate the difference between your beliefs and practices and the beliefs of the guy on the pulpit.
Some will still call for Rev. Wright's head, but after this we know Wright will resign from his position, wherever it is in Obama's organization.
March 14, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
And lookie here, Factcheck.org does some digging into Senator Clinton's FP claims:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/hillarys_adventures_abroad.html
March 14, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
The fact is this country doesn't seem to warrant having someone as President that is as forthright as Obama. Most of the sheeple in this country are scared to be brought together because it would mean they would have to let go of their prejudices and actually have to start taking responsibility for their lives and choices. No longer would they be able to blame some group or somebody.
Face it, this country is not ready for someone like Obama, not because he is black, but because he asks us all to be something bigger than we are.
March 14, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've agreed with you for most of my life. But I'm also a stupid romantic, and for the moment I'd like to think that it's just a little teensy bit possible.
March 14, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for the last sentence alone - you've captured something i've tried to put my finger on for a while now.
Gore hits the same chord in me - especially since he's gotten out of this game. Well reasoned, impassioned vision of the higher truths we *should* be striving for. And I suppose that's the crux of what i find so revolting about Senator Clinton's approach this season: throwing this much negativity into a dialogue that could have been about the rebirth of this country in the wake of the neocon's "grand agenda," going instead for a dirty yellow paperback vibe. She'd have gotten much further if she'd simply painted a more compelling picture of our transition forward into history, rather than offering up this sad clip show of I Love the 90's.
But of course you do learn the most about a person when they're backed into a corner, yes?
Anyway, well put, and thank you. :)
March 14, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's a thoughtful man. Had to see what was shaking from what quarters on this and formulate a thoughtful response, keeping himself completely ON message as he responds.
Bravo, Obama.
And the same will happen in the GE when repugs try to act like Camp Hillary.
March 14, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Most posters here are Dems. As such I'm guessing we all completely disagree with many things bush has said and done over the years. Just because he's been able to do that, have we stopped being Americans or repudiated our country?
A church is a community. Barack and Michelle joined a community. It was in that community that they married and they baptized their children. His former pastor has retired. But the community endures.
I credit Senator Obama with having the wisdom to reject certain statements made by his former pastor, while nevertheless retaining ties to his Church community.
Forgiveness is the hallmark of Christianity. Or it should be. For those who want to castigate Senator Obama, let the one without sin cast stones. Otherwise, silence is the wiser course.
March 14, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's amazing- using actually Christian thought to shield a man who advocates such hatred, and to shield those who attempt to make light of it.
I can forgive Obama the error of his ways, but that doesn't erase Wright's words nor the hold they have on the church he built. If Obama truely wishes to denounce the man and his words, he will remove him from his faith and values council. Until then his rejection is just words.
March 14, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Have you actually read the sermon Wright gave? A bit high on the over-the-top rhetoric for my taste but I didn't find it too objectionable. I mean one of the full quotes was "God damn America for killing the innocent" which was about sentencing innocent black mean to the death penalty I think. Perhaps you are in favor of killing innocent black men?
March 14, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
So I guess you disagree with the Rev about white people being the dominant class in this country for the last 200+ years? I guess as far as you're concerned it's all been sunshine and lollipops, with never a negative word being heard?
I guess if you accept that pollyanaish view of reality, you'd probably be really upset by the Rev's sentiments. Unfortunately for you, 13% of the population would beg to differ. People of Rev. Wright's age and skin color have somewhat different memories of what it was like to live in America, and as far as I'm concerned, he has every right to feel as he does, and to express his righteous indignation. I also understand how people like you would consider it something to be shunned, or feared. But people like you are are a dying breed, and I believe that another generation will see attitudes like yours relegated to the fringe, as they deserve to be.
This too shall pass.
March 14, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love this site because of intelligent, WISE and thoughtful posters such as yourself. Thank you. I couldn't agree with you more.
Drama, hype and snap-judgment are easier to practice than the steady, patient, sometimes difficult road of tolerance, acceptance and seeing the good in others despite the imperfections that are rampant in so many of us.
March 14, 2008 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, TheraP: "Forgiveness is the hallmark of Christianity"
The most singular demonstration of forgiveness I have heard of took place in the Colorado Springs Church a month after a lone gunman opened fire, killing two teen girls and injuring those girls' father and others before that gunman was taken down by one brave woman. The minister invited together the parents of the dead gunman, the parents of the dead girls and the woman who shot the gunman. All present wept and forgave and reached out to each other and gained strength from each other to carry on beyond the horror each of them experienced.
March 14, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's unfortunate based on what I saw of Wright's speech is that Obama needs to denounce the statement of someone who spoke of the America that lots of poor, urban black people know of. It's the America that many of those with sufficient political capital are completely unaware of and yet is documented in study after study on urban poverty and race, especially studies on the criminal justice system. Instead of considering the merits and reality of Wrights statement, the media play it up as some kind of "he said/ she said" game where Clinton must act on Ferraro's statement and now Obama must act on Wright's statement.
March 14, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen (so to speak). Compare what Wright said, which comes from his genuine experience of being African-American, with the weird, end-of-the-world insanity of a Hagee or Parsley. They are merely conveying a twisted, hate-filled theology, that is derived from despising all that is worldly and secular and fearing mortality and the inevitability of change. It's like the difference between someone who wants to change the world for the better and someone who wants to escape from the world and reality.
March 14, 2008 11:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wright married Barack and Michelle Obama. He baptised their children. Wright was Obama's pastor for 20 years. In April 2007 Obama paid special tribute to Wright saying he had led him to the faith.
ABC News lists DOZENS of Wright sermons where the man denounces the US. The idea that Obama could have missed this or been unaware of the sermons of this nature simply does not pass the smell test. And keeping the man on as a member of his 'faith and values panel' won't cut it either. How ironic to have a man who advocates such hate on one's faith and values committee. Maybe that's change.
March 14, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm black. I grew up singing gospel in church. My Dad styles himself a Reverend, as do two of my uncles, one of whom had a church until recently.
There's tons of sermons I missed from the 4 Reverends I've attended church on a regular basis under. There's things I found out about them, later, that I had only heard hints of while I was there. Things they said on the pulpit that , had I known, would have deeply disturbed me.
And what I have seen? I had to sit through a sermon during a funeral filled with hate for gays from a pastor I admired. People trash-talking their fellow parishioners from behind the pulpit.
And that's before we start talking about the fact that I did all this in parallel with 8 years of Catholic School...
It's not unusual. It's not unknown, and it's a sad legacy of layer upon layer of hate and depression.
FYI, he's on the African American committee, not the Faith and Values committee.
March 14, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why don't you just come right out and admit that you hate people of color? It would simplify things greatly.
March 14, 2008 11:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Billy Graham saved George Bush from a life of public, frat boy drunkenness only to see his disciple become the scourge from hell-ruining baseball teams, energy firms, economies and countries. Pastor Wright, on the other hand, saved Barack Obama from secular hell only to see his disciple flounder on the shoals of Hillary Clinton’s venomous and racist wrath. Oh, you week and meek who seek the solace of these religious imposters and their God -will -save -you nostrums! They are worse than opium or the crack that invades our fair cities. Fie on them. Better for the world if George Bush told awful preppy jokes to his Skull and Cross chums and blew up frogs in his yard and for Barack Obama to find Populism and Democracy rather than the wicked Pastor Wright that he indulges or the course of corporate globalism that he embraces. George Bush, happily, is done for- off to his presidential library with its two books: The Pet Goat, and Clearing Brush for Profit and Pleasure. There is still time for Obama: Rid yourself of the Pastor!
March 14, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Robots project:
This controversy will HELP OBAMA by reaffirming that he goes to a CHRISTIAN CHURCH, chipping away at the false MUSLIM claims.
Clear, firm words REJECTING WRIGHT will HELP OBAMA with a patriotic, nuanced message about his position.
This controversy will HURT OBAMA by playing into the FEAR OF AN ANGRY BLACK MAN meme.
There is VERY LITTLE to NO crossover of PRIMARY votes, as OBAMA supporters will see this as NO CONCERN and MOST CLINTON supporters are NOT RACISTS
Summary:
OBAMA BENEFITS from this controversy
March 14, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
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Anti-white
Anti-jewish
Anti-American
tsk, tsk, tsk....
Maybe you guys can nominate David Duke in 2016 since Obama's toast now.
Rae
March 14, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
RaeK's unraveling IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
March 14, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love idiotic!
March 14, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's back! Long live idiotic!
March 14, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, Obama and David Duke are pretty much one and the same.
Thanks for your concern. Now go fuck off and die,
March 15, 2008 12:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hoost way above:
Brilliant!
March 14, 2008 6:18 PM |