Of course, I agree with Obama, but he shouldn't say this.

Let the supers work it out on there own, this just gives Hillary supporters ammunition: See! He wants Hillary to quit before PA! He's scared!

Obama will have plenty of time to beat McCain, even if this is decided at the convention.

Just imagine what Clinton would be saying if their situations were reversed.

We already know her response to this of course: Obama wants to disenfranchise millions of voters.

Who, of course, don't matter because delegates are free to choose Clinton and not Obama, if they want. Not that they are saying anything about that, no need to sound the alarm.

But if a robot calls, press 1.

I think somethings happening, maybe. There are those rumors floating around from the story in the Nevada paper that Harry Reid already said: something is being done to stop this. He said he'd spoken with Dean and Pelosi about it.

Since Pelosi released that very damaging letter from Clinton supporters, I think it's just about over.

Certainly it should be, because if she doesn't get out now, there's every chance her numbers will continue to slide and she'll get out looking worse than she does now. She's pissed off people who originally supported her - like Kevin Drum (for what that's worth - I mean, the only reason that matters is that it's an indication of what's going on.)

it would be "extremely helpful" ...

not that this will matter to Clinton. A year ago I was open to a Clinton candidacy; no more. And sad to say, I have become as rabid an opponent of hers as Limbaugh. I've been surprised by the gestalt shift, especially as I enthusiastically voted for her husband twice. And what now seems to me to be the obvious fact with respect to Clinton is that she will not do the right thing on her own. She will drag this out till the convention. Unless something/someone stops her. My guess is that Dean is wondering how to do just that. But I have my doubts that he'll be able to. Any ideas?

So Obama is whining, what else is new

Dear SCMadden;
I agree with you that Obama should be very careful about saying this, but there is another very critical reason why this needs to end ASAP. While I am confident that Obama can come from behind against McCain staring after the convention what he probably CANNOT do is spend enough time with the "down ticket" candidates.

If given proper time Obama potentially has the coat tails to have a filibuster proof senate and a veto proof congress.

I am hoping that some more big time party leaders come out and soon with pressure against Hillary. I realize that cannot happen until at least after Indiana, but there are a core group of Dem leaders whose public admonishments would cause Clinton to at least seriously consider with drawing.

At a minimum they need to make it clear that we will not tolerate Hillary pulling a coup with the Super Delegates.

People who get all worried when they see McCain has caught up with Barack, or McCain has taken the lead, should just chill. When Hillary drops out (or gets pushed out more likely) and the focus turns to Obama v's McCain, Barack is gonna wipe the floor with him. It's not going to be a matter of will Barack win, its going to be a matter of buy how much.

He doesn't want to see what happens when white people tell pollsters one thing, but do something dramatically different on election day. We haven't seen this yet with Obama (I think its called the "bradley effect"), but Wright may have created that situation for him.

If Wright did create such a situation, which I really doubt, because I don't think that many voters are paying that much attention to things right now, but if it did, then shame on everyone who was part of that really nasty damn racial smear campaign.

I had no idea the Clintons would do such a thing - but they did and I am forever disillusioned with the two of them.

Drop out and go back to the beach then.

Clinton lead on the economy but Obama is just getting to it because he cut and ran to the beach.

Lazy, day late, dollar short.

Let all Americans vote and let all their votes count before it is over.

Well, it's hard to argue that he is wrong. It would be helpful for the nominee to have some time to define McCain and themselves, right?

But, I suspect that Hillary will somehow say it is unfair and play the victim.

I really don't think Hillary is going to stop ever. She will take it to the floor at the convention and fight it out.

I hope the dem establishment stops the clinton knee capping from continuing. As buchanan was smirking last night he pointed out that the b-movie actor took ford in 76 to the convention and heavily damaged the party for the general election, which of course ford lost. Then the b-movie actor wound up as president in 1980. He implied that that was the clinton strategy now, shooting for heavily damaging obama and winning in 2012. The problem with this is that she can't win in 2012 either.

Please supers step in and put a stop to this travesty of a campaign by the clintons.

of course he wants her drop out! he's scared!

OK:

Is there really a difference between saying that the Supers need to step in and decide this NOW (my opinion, not Obama's!) and Hillary's opinion that the Supers need to overide the pledged delegate total?

I'm curious. Why is one option "un-Democratic" while the other isn't?

Either we allow the Supers to decide or not. I say, let them decide now. End this thing, one way or the other.

. While I have thought (in moments of pique) about sitting this one out, of course I will vote for Senator Clinton if she gets the nod,

O hell yeah, so will I.

I'm utterly furious with her, but if she's the nominee, I'll put my personal feelings aside because I know very well she would be better for the country than John "I'm crazy as a shit house rat and I'll nuke Iran" McCain.

But I sure won't be happy about it and I will seriously question whether or not I will continue being a Democrat.

I think the racism is at TUCC!!! Ask the Reverend!!

I think the racism is at TUCC!!! Ask the Reverend!!

O not this again.

The patented White Supremacist argument: They're discriminating against my white ass!

Could you be more absurd? How in the hell can white people be discriminated against in a society we formed, we wrote the rules for, and we have been in charge of for almost 300 years?

Aaaargh! How far the DLC wing of the party has fallen. My god.

(I originally posted this in the wrong thread...)

I'm sure Obama would love to move on with the general campaign but the primaries are far from over. While he and the media keep pushing for a quick end, Clinton was very clear last night that this is not over and that it will go to the convention if necessary. She will not stop short of victory. This is good for the party that cannot afford a candidate like Obama. Especially one that doesn't want to hear and respect all voters--such as the ones in Michigan and Florida.

Well, actually Obama would like to debate McCain the the Republican 527s that will not mince words about Obama's ties to corrupt slumlord Rezko, who also has ties to terrorists, nor to his ties to hate-America and racism. Even if the Democrats want to keep their head in the sand about Rev. Wright and Meeks, I'm sure the rest of the country will welcome and hear lots more. What about Obama's near complete lack of experience, his spoonfed "successes" in the Illinois Senate, his failed U.S. Senate committee roles, his attempts to take credit for work he did not do, Michelle's nearly 3x raise after Obama joined the Senate and Obama's attempt to secure funds for her employer, his flip-flops and lies (such as NAFTA).

You know, Obama can't handle this discussion with the Democratic party and has failed in big state primaries. Now he'd rather move on and face McCaim. Okay, join that discussion because it is likely the closest he'll get to the general election because he can engage that discussion with McCain, give McCain face time in the news, face justified criticism from both, and lose the nomination in the process as that is what Clinton is working on to win.

Hillary is a liar, who can trust a liar! She needs to get out now for the good of the party! She will never be able to catch up with him in delegates and the Superdelegates SURELY is not going to go aginst the will of the voters!

She is pathetic! And she should have divorced Bill years ago! What kind of woman continues to stay married to a womanizing moron!

Hillary had a choice to divorce her husband but she chose to stay with a womanizer! And then she blamed the women Bill laid with! So pathetic!

years on the white man is not an endearing trait to the "typical white person" in the heartland of this country

O go away - Democrats never use terms like "heartland."

You're a troll.

Saddle up, you old bag with no life.

Of course Mr. Obama would like Hillary to drop out now, with Pennsylvania coming in a few weeks. His supporters were saying the same thing in the lead-up to Texas and Ohio. Enormous pressure is being placed on Hillary to drop out of the race, and it will only increase as she approaches a number of primaries that could help her. I don't blame her for refusing to drop out. If she were way behind Obama, that would be a different matter, but she is not. What we are seeing is yet another attempt to stampede public opinion, party officials and superdelegates into calling for her capitulation. It didn't work before Texas/Ohio, and I hope it doesn't work now.