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Obama Hits Hillary Camp For Allegedly Spreading Somali Garb Photo
For the first time by our reckoning, Obama himself has chastised the Hillary campaign over the allegation made by Matt Drudge that unnamed Hillary staffers "circulated" that pic of Obama in Somali garb...
"When in the midst of a campaign you decide to throw the kitchen sink at your opponent because you’re behind and your campaign starts leaking photographs of me when I’m traveling overseas wearing the native clothes of those folks to make people afraid, and then you run an ad talking about who’s going to answer the phone at three in the morning, an ad straight out of the Republican playbook, that’s not real change.”
But in response, the Hillary campaign points out that Obama already said he accepted Hillary's claim that she wasn't behind the photo...
SEN. OBAMA: Well, first of all, I take Senator Clinton at her word that she knew nothing about the photo. So I think that's something that we can set aside.
Since then, of course, the acrimony between the two campaigns has been jacked skyward. Hillary is sowing doubts about Obama's readiness to be commander-in-chief, and Obama is responding that she's using Rovian-style scare tactics -- a claim that the photo allegation slots neatly into.
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Bad angle of attack for Obama.
Why not use Ferraro's "if he wasn't Black" quote instead?
March 11, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
the campaign is also attacking on that today according to Mark Halperin at http://thepage.time.com
March 11, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
There's a difference b/t Hillary and her campaign, so Obama can take Hillary at her word that she didn't leak the photo personally and still think that someone in her campaign did so (as seems likely by the timing).
March 11, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Precisely. He's not being contradictory here at all. He was careful to say "her campaign".
March 11, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know why not? He knows Ferro was telling the truth, a truth that no one else dares to speak openly. If he brings more attention to her comments, he brings more visibility to the fact that he is at his position now because he is black and his candidacy is fueled by 85%+ support from the black community. If his skin were not black, he would never have got this level of support from the black community and he would have no chance and whatsoever. Do you think he talks better than John Edwards or his positions are superior to Ewards'? No way, jose!
Had he been a white due with two years of Senate experience after an undistinguished stint as a state senator, you would be laughing at him for having the audacity to run for the president. Talking about audacity!!!
Yes, you can say had Clinton not married to a Clinton, she might not have been in today's position as well. But no one could seriously argue that she is not more seasoned, more tested, and has better policy positions than Obama, period!
March 11, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
If he were full white (and not half) with the same rhetorical and political skills, then this nomination would have been over a few weeks ago. Belittling him and his supporters with this line of bullshit is indefensible (yet you try).
And for all her supposed "seasoning", one thing is undisputable: he's a better politician and has better executive management skills (as demonstrated by their respective campaigns). And given her "experience" with all of Bill's campaigns, makes you wonder how much she actually absorbed along the way.
March 11, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
You have been drinking too much Kool-aid. If he were full white, he would be receiving 90% of black support? He would be just Edwards-mini.
If running campaign is such a good indication of running the country, why would bush have failed so miserably?
March 11, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can, and have.
This is interesting, though. We are now seeing the piling onto this Ferraro comment by Clinton supporters in support of it. She's unleashed the beast, in all its ugliness, and given Hillaryheads the excuse they've been waiting for to expose a central tenet of their Obama hatred.
Obama supporters need to just sit back and let the Clintonistas eat themselves alive. They have moved so close to right-wing haters over the course of this campaign that it's becoming notable and newsworthy. VRWC, indeed.
And make no mistake about it, the Obama campaign had nothing at all to do with this. Geraldine Ferraro, in an interview with a rightwing hit man, made an ass of herself, all by herself.
Should she apologize? Who cares? In the end, it's better that the racists expose themselves and root themselves out.
March 11, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, boy! Aimey's back! Always good for a laugh.
March 11, 2008 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you resent people that display natural leadership qualities? It sure sounds like you do. Your personal prejudices blind you to the very basic fact that in America, people of color and first and second generation immigrants HAVE to work twice as hard as others to get ahead in life. NOTHING GETS HANDED TO THEM!
One of the most appealing traits that Senator Obama possesses is that the experience hasn't made him an angry individual. The same can not be said of his competitor. He knows who he is and is very comfortable in his skin and his love for humanity trumps all.
March 11, 2008 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are sure freaking right. He's taking full advantage of his skin!!!
No one disputes it is very difficult for a black man to make it in this society. But it is also indisputable that some black elitists have had it easy because they are the ones who are in the position to benefit from diversity hiring and affirmative action programs.
Just ask yourself a simple question - if his skin were not black, would he be enjoying 85%+ support in the black community? Yea, the black community is disproportionally inspired to vote for him because of his rhetorical power. It has nothing to do with his skin color. LOL!!!
March 11, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure Hillary herself had no knowledge of the Somali photo being circulated by her own staff. There are now two accounts, namely Insight Magazine, and Drudge Report, that says that the Clinton staffer circulated the photo to them.
March 11, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure it went something like this: "Throw the kitchen sink at them. Spare me the details so I can deny knowing about it."
March 11, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
As far as we know.
March 11, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
You should correct your post. You said the following:
the Hillary campaign points out that Obama already said he accepted Hillary's claim that she wasn't behind the photo
That obviously is not a true statement by the clintons' campaign as indicated by your block quote. He said he took her at her word and we all know how much her word is worth. Zippo. The clintons lie all the time so taking them at their word is meaningless. It's not accepting or ratifying the words, its basically saying they said what they said, so what.
March 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the key point here is that Obama said he believed Hillary when she said she personally wasn't behind it. But he still believes that her campaign did circulate the photos, so his current point is valid. The Clinton campaign still can't say definitively that it wasn't spread by them and no one in the media has pressed Drudge to say more about this.
March 11, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I hate to be particular, but contrary to the clintons' claims, words are important. Not once throughout this process has obama or his campaign said that they "believed" anything the clintons or their campaign said. They always, always "take them at their word." Obviously, you can interpret that how you want, but they don't say that they believe them, which I think is important. For me the clintons "word" is worthless based on track record. They have no integrity.
March 11, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's some slippage in the back-and-forth here. Obama accused Hillary's campaign of leaking the photo, echoing the attribution that Drudge gave for the picture - and which the Clinton campaign tied itself in knots trying to non-deny deny.
What Obama said in the debate (and I think it's safe to assume that the wording was carefully worked out in advance) was that he was willing to take Hillary at her word that she knew nothing about the photo in advance. That's not a semantic distinction - it's perfectly plausible that Hillary would've been unaware of what some of her operatives were up to.
March 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
There's no contradiction there!
He said he believed she didn't have personal knowledge of it. He never said he believed it didn't come from her campaign.
Clinton is responsible for the actions of her campaign, just as Obama is responsible when one of his advisers calls his opponent a monster, even if neither were done at the candidate's direction or with his/her knowledge.
March 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but Obama's campaign was telling the truth about Monster Inc.
March 11, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if Obama knows something here. If not, I wonder why he has decided to go down this road. It seems very much to go against his style.
March 11, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
You just knew that before this thing was over, someone would end up citing Drudge.
March 11, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton's playing with fire here, unless it is in fact that case that no one in her campaign was circulating that e-mail internally or externally. Obama stayed mum on the issue at the time, despite some rather unfortunate comments by Clinton surrogates trying to downplay the issue before Obama gave them cover to ignore it with his comment at the debate.
None of that implied that Obama didn't actually know or have a good idea of the photo and e-mail's origins, and of course Drudge is still sitting on his source and would gladly give out the originating e-mail address if it meant throwing this story and his site back into the spotlight.
March 11, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, this line of attack might work for Obama in Mississippi, but how will it play in PA?
March 11, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
There's no reason to think this'll work any worse in PA than MS. Everyone hates negative campaigning and dirty tricks, so this should work in Obama's favor.
March 11, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
"I'm sure Hillary herself had no knowledge of the Somali photo being circulated by her own staff. There are now two accounts, namely Insight Magazine, and Drudge Report, that says that the Clinton staffer circulated the photo to them."
Two staff were fired in Iowa for spreading muslims rumors.
Another staff was caught in November sending stuff to Drudge.
These are on record.
That should have been a warning flag to the supposedly uninformed clinton.
Clinton either didn't exercise leadership that muslim-smears were not going to be allowed, or she implicitly encouraged it or her surrogates did (Penn etc)
Either way, it's her fault.
March 11, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
i think he needs to be careful about this. he doesn't want to overuse clintons' tried and true tactic of splitting hairs, i.e., i said i believe she didn't know, not her campaign.
March 11, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm glad he's on the offense, but he needs a new narrative line to pummel her on. He needs to stop playing defense and fundamentally re-align the game.
March 11, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
i agree entirely. i wish he were a bit more assertive in his "contrasting."
March 11, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
If only TPM could flesh out the real specifics of events to it's readers we'd be all better informed.
Drudge never stated the Clinton campaign sent him the email photo! Only that the email had been "circulated".
March 11, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary Clinton . . . Ready on day one . . . in the year 2087 . . .
Barak Obama will chime in five to seven days later and slightly to the right . . .
Dear (insert the deity of your choice), I wish there were a living Democrat running in the race . . .
March 11, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Am I the only one seeing this? Obama doesn't just reference the photo -- the words that really stick out to me here are "the native clothes," which seems like an obvious reference to Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones going on TV and saying Obama was wearing "his native clothes."
March 11, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Drudge never stated the Clinton campaign sent him the email photo! Only that the email had been "circulated".
Correct. Drudge seemed to suggest that the photo had been sent by someone in the Clinton camapign to someone else in the media, as part of a complaint about unfair soft media treatment of Obama, and that it came into his (Drudge's) hands through this indirect path.
As far as I know, while denying personal knowledge of the photo, Clinton has never denied that someone in her campaign distributed the photo. Once again, they have a chance to deny the campaign is responsible for distributing the photo. But once again, they are simply retreating to the assertion that Clinton personally had no knowledge of it.
March 11, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Another genius move by Obama. Let's again make a big to-do about the damn Somali picture and get it plastered all over the media for another two news cycles, thus magnifying its effect a thousand-fold. There's nothing wrong with a picture of Obama dressed in Somali clothes. Period. By loudly objecting to its distribution, Obama is simply feeding the impression that there's something in it, however vague and ill-defined, that should concern people. Let the mad dogs of America politics snarl and foam over it if that's what they crave, but for heaven's sake don't set out more red meat for them.
March 11, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
"There's nothing wrong with a picture of Obama dressed in Somali clothes."
Wasn't it Kenya?
I thought Maggie Williams callign it Somalia was another slur, since somalia is mostly muslim, and of black hawk down fame.
March 11, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
He was visiting Somalia. I don't see anything wrong with him in local dress. His middle name is fine with me as well. I am not against him. I'm for Hillary, who is more experienced and more ready for the job in this time of peril.
I don't have a lot of money. I may make more money by investing in Google but I will put it into Microsoft or GE because I know my downside is much more limited!
March 11, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, Obama campaigns sources of news ... Drudge. What's next, take words from O'Reilly's talking points?
March 11, 2008 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Wow, Obama campaigns sources of news ... Drudge. What's next, take words from O'Reilly's talking points?"
Do I need to point out that Clinton has been caught redhanded already leaking info to Drudge, by no less than her friends at the New York Times?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/us/politics/22drudge.html?ref=washington
March 11, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why bother? Those are facts, and we've seen that Clinton's camp doesn't usually have use for those pesky things.
March 11, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Three of her team were fired in Iowa for spreading muslims rumors.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/10/second-clinton-volunteer-_n_76047.html
Another staff was caught in October sending stuff to Drudge.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/us/politics/22drudge.html?ref=washington
Her non-denials on the photo just build up a larger picture of either
1) her not being able to control her own team
2) her being dishonest and secretly orchestrating these smears
Which is it?
Any intrepid reporters wish to ask her the question??
I don't think this shows very good Commander in Chief skills, if she can't control her own team.
March 11, 2008 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
He takes her at her word?
AT HER WORD?
Isn't that the same thing she said about him being a Muslim? Isn't that what had everyone freaking out just a few days ago? Because taking someone at their word is equivalent to a big wink-wink, nudge-nudge.
AT HER WORD?
He must be stopped. He should drop out. He's tearing the party apart!
March 11, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another staff was caught in October sending stuff to Drudge.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/us/politics/22drudge.html?ref=washington
March 11, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Three of her team were fired in Iowa for spreading muslims rumors.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/10/second-clinton-volunteer-_n_76047.html
March 11, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aimey, you are wrong:
"Barack Obama, right, is dressed as a Somali elder by Sheikh Mahmed Hassan, left, during his visit to Wajir in northeastern Kenya, near the borders with Somalia and Ethiopia. Photograph: AP"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton
He's near the border, but in Kenya.
Furthermore ....
Her non-denials on the photo just build up a larger picture of either
1) her not being able to control her own team
2) her being dishonest and secretly orchestrating these smears
Which is it?
Any intrepid reporters wish to ask her the question??
I don't think this shows very good Commander in
March 11, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
In recent days, Obama had to accept the resignation of Samantha Power after her "monster" comments, and another supporter after he brought up the Clinton sex scandals of the past.
According to your logic, this means he either
1) Cannot control his own team or
2) Is being dishonest and secretly orchestrating these smears
I don't think this shows that he'll be a very good commander in chief.
March 11, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
More Clinton Drudge leaks:
"On Tuesday, Drudge’s lead story was sourced to a “top Clinton insider” and claimed that Clinton’s team had warned CNN’s Wolf Blitzer not to gang up on Clinton in the upcoming debate."
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1107/6895.html
I see a case building here.
Can we get email archives data? Or is this going to be like Bush and the RNC "losing" email archives? Very similar spirit of secrecy here.
March 11, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's worse -- the Clinton campaign wasn't "caught" leaking to Drudge, they were _bragging_ about it to show what tough guys they are. The idea they didn't do this is bullshit. You may think it's fine, but the idea that they didn't do is insultingly stupid:
October 22, 2007, New York Times, “Clinton Learns To Play Along With Drudge” by Jim Rutenberg
“[T]ypical of a campaign with a reputation for exploiting every advantage and trying to neutralize every disadvantage, Mrs. Clinton’s communications team, led by Howard Wolfson, is not leaving Mr. Drudge to the Republicans. Five current and former Democratic officials said Mrs. Clinton has on her side the closest thing her party has ever had to Mr. Rhoades [Mitt Romney’s Drudge liaison] in Tracy Sefl, a former DNC official, who has established a friendly working relationship with Mr. Drudge – and through whom Mrs. Clinton’s campaign often worked quietly to open a line of communication.”
March 11, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excuse me, but Hillary Clinton's campaign made the blanket statement that no one on her entire campaign team spoke with the Canadians about Nafta, and yet when asked about the Muslim photo, the Clinton campaign said, "Hey we can't ask each of our 703 staffers about this!"
And to the racist -- yes, racist -- above, who said that Ferraro was speaking the truth because Obama would be "mini-Edwards" were he not black, I've got news for you, AlmeyMay.
Edwards, talented speaker though he may be, does not hold a candle to Obama in terms of either brain power or speech-writing or speech-delivery skills. Obama has generated more fresh speeches and electric moments than any orator since at least RFK. Edwards is at the top tier of good political orators; Obama is in a different league altogether. And when Edwards ran in 2004, Edwards had fewer years of political experience than Obama, yet hardly anyone said Edwards was showing any "audacity" by running.
So the claim that Obama -- with13 years in elective office -- and a guy who gave the most memorable keynote address in modern times and a guy who helped six Dems win Senate seats from Repubs in red and purple states is "audacious" for running against Hillary who got her start by being inserted as Senator into a state where she never lived thanks to marrying well is nothing more than a claim that Obama's uppity. White women, according to you, can start their careers as US Senator based on a marriage in a state they've never lived in, but a black guy who paid his dues by starting politics at the gritty local level has no business running is, according to you, uppity. Can the crap, AlmeyMay.
March 11, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
For all that seasoning, Hillary sure has run a crappy campaign. She had more advantages than any non-incumbent in US history and has blown it. In her defense, part of the reason she's had trouble is that all of her experience didn't keep her from voting for a dumb war. Furthermore, she's up against an opponent who has proven to be one of the most skilled campaigners that we've seen in a generation. Hillary herself has had to admit that she is not as effective a speaker as Obama, a key leadership skill.
Of course, Obama's superior campaigning, foreign policy judgment, and leadership skills, not to mention his track record of making government more not less open and accountable, have nothing to do with his success. . . It's all because of affirmative action. . . or something.
March 11, 2008 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why is it every time Obama seems to be on the ropes (oh excuse me is that racist?) we here about how racist Hillary is? Is this the same "old okie doke" or something in the new way of politics? Really people Hillary is not a racist. And just like Obama she wants to win. It would appear he'll "do anything, say anything" to win.
March 11, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Edwards, talented speaker though he may be, does not hold a candle to Obama in terms of either brain power or speech-writing or speech-delivery skills. Obama has generated more fresh speeches and electric moments than any orator since at least RFK. Edwards is at the top tier of good political orators; Obama is in a different league altogether. And when Edwards ran in 2004, Edwards had fewer years of political experience than Obama, yet hardly anyone said Edwards was showing any "audacity" by running."
I don't think this is fair to Edwards. Obama is certainly extremely talented (smart, and charismatic, and visionary -- usually you dont get all three). I think Edward's message was just not visionary enough this time around, although I agreed with it.
Edward's more hopeful message in 2004 was better. Indeed, Axelrod worked for him at the time. This time it was more negative. He'd make a great VP though and wouldn't hesitate to attack the other side.
Obama/Edwards 2008!!
March 11, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
"For all that seasoning, Hillary sure has run a crappy campaign. She had more advantages than any non-incumbent in US history and has blown it."
This is the most important and overlooked aspect.
We've seen incompetence in Bush's WH cause tremendous damage.
She had the whole deck of cards stacked in her favor and yet managed to squander her big advantages (like the entire party machinery)
March 11, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
... because if there's one thing the last 250 years of American history has taught us it's that blacks have it SO easy when it comes to getting elected to high seats of office.
Let's talk about the person who bypassed about 50 rungs on the political ladder by running for US Senate as her first elected office strictly on her name recognition.
March 11, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink