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Obama Chides Reporters For Swallowing Media-Tougher-On-Hillary Line
At a press avail in Texas today, Obama (finally) pushes back on the Hillary campaign's frequent claim that the press has been much rougher on her...
"I am a little surprised that all the complaining about the refs has actually worked as well as it has for them," he added. "This whole spin that the press is being so tough of them and not tough on us. I just didn’t expect you guys would bite on that."
It does appear that the Obama camp has been caught off guard by the now-obvious success of Hillary's bash-the-press strategy. The Hillary camp kept up its pressure on the press today during a conference call, so it'll be interesting to see if Obama's comments today represent the start of a concerted effort to push back on this.
Separately, as it stands now, most press observers and pundits have basically agreed with the Hillary camp on this question.
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I guess it's a matter of perspective.
I see questions on Hillary's real experience, her tax returns, and her negative ads as being fair.
I don't think asking Obama if he's "Patriotic enough" or "Christian enough" to be questions of substance.
But Obama needs to simply address the Rezco and NAFTA concerns, and he'll be fine.
March 4, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
SCMadden, since you brought up the NAFTA brouhaha again, I thought I should mention that Tsam and Elizabeth2 did some great digging this morning (1 AM and 8 AM, respectively) and found good links to an actual hard copy of the "1,300-word memo" (see http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/Canwest%20News_1.pdf) and to coverage by Canadian news teevee revealing that the Tory govt.'s foreign ministry is now deeply anxious that the leak of one of its highly classified, secret diplomatic cables has chilled all American Democratic Party campaigns against communicating with the Canadians.
Here's a link to Canadian Broadcasting Co. (CBC) story on our primaries with links to newer video since yesterday:
http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/story/2008/03/04/primaries-election.html
h/t to both Tsam and Elizabeth2 on the overnight thread concerning the brawl in the Canadian parliament:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/goolsbeegate_becomes_an_intern.php
March 4, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish that he would start playing the refs and get the media to do their stupid jobs.
By the way on the stupid rezko thing (it's the syndrome), I would have a staffer make a binder of every single stupid rezko story written up by the chicago papers and give the binder to all the reporters. Then I'd say something along the lines that I don't know what else to say that I already haven't said 100 times or that has been reported on ad nausem. I'm not repeating it anymore. Next question.
March 4, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obviously they're tougher on Hillary. Haven't you seen the clip of reporters falling over themselves, shouting at Hillary, asking her why she hasn't disclosed her tax returns, where she got the $5 million from, if she knew anything about how/why Goolsbeegate was unraveled, why she couldn't unequivocally say Obama is not a Muslim?
The press is really tearing into her!
March 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know! Didn't I see that video on "youdreamtube.com"? Wait, maybe that was really a dream.
Yep, cause I sure as hell haven't seen it from any of the mainstream press.
March 4, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!!! FOR HILLARY!!!!
March 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm pretty disgusted that the media has internalized this bullshit. Here is my analysis of the media coverage, and there isn't really any basis in their claims, and if anything, Hillary has gotten a free ride this entire campaign.
http://thepersonalispolitical.tumblr.com/post/27451031
Any negative press she has gotten has been a direct result of her campaign doing bad things. If Obama had run his campaign like the Clinton campaign, the press would have been equally interested in that.
March 4, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Essentially, the beef that the Clinton camp had with the press was that they were talking about how poorly run her campaign has been, and that Obama won 11 in a row and maybe she should bail out. The press did not press her on scandals. They still have not called for her tax returns. They still have not pressed her on where her $5 million came from.
With Obama, they have started to press him on Rezko, Farrakhan, and Goolsbeegate.
All's fair in politics, and it's understandable that Obama is starting to getting a little heat. But the fact is, if the Clintons are complaining about lack of focus on scandals, then they are being a bit naive about how they will be treated in the run-up to the general.
March 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
So let me get this straight--the Rezko thing makes Obama dirty because he associated with someone who is on trial right now. Not even convicted.
But the Clintons are totally clean, despite 14 of their Whitewater friends getting convicted of a total of 40 felonies? To be fair, a lot of them were pardoned...by Bill. Is pardoning their convicted friends part of the 'experience' Hillary is claiming?
March 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
The press is reflexively defensive when it comes to the appearance of bias. The Clintons shamelessly exploit that. To avoid the appearance of bias the press goes the distance to carry water for the Clintons and bases its coverage entirely on what the Clintons put forth. The past two months have been nothing more than following editorial calendars as written by the Clinton campaign.
Obama is right to point that out, but he's pointing out the obvious. The great mystery is why the press, endlessly self-flagellating, cannot think for itself. It is reactionary and useless and surrenders all pretenses of objectivity when it mindlessly follows EVERY TALKING POINT OF THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN.
This blog post and discussion does little more than shine a kleig light on that very point.
March 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Most press observers and pundits agree that press observers and pundits are biased?
There's something very circular and wrong here.
March 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg:
How did this report that Clinton is the 9th most powerful Senator affect your analysis? From the article:
Also, can you specify which negative stories were evidence of unfair treatment? I want to try and approach this as objectively as possible.
March 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
You don't get it Media. It's not so much the story of Nafta and Rezko, it's your reaction to them SINCE SNL criticized you two weekends ago. And they repeated it this weekend. You've done nothing BUT attack Obama since then. Ignorning that fact that Hillary has her OWN problems with Nafta and her OWN affiliation with Rezko.
You also forget the attackes about Obama's race, religion and his campaign being attacked by the Clintons.
One can only assume you NEED this race to continue to make your sponsors HAPPY.
March 4, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
publicus, if you go to The Horse's Mouth, and scroll through the last year of posts, that will answer your question
March 4, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
For what it's worth Greg, fair has nothing to do with how positive or negative a story is, how "hard" it is or any of that mumbo jumbo.
Fairness should be judged based on whether all candidates are held to the same standard.
For all of her prostrations about the press giving Obama a pass, she seems to have failed to realize (or, was hoping you wouldn't notice her slight of hand) that she has gotten exactly the same pass: namely, a complete lack of factual analysis of any scandals or issues dogging their campaigns.
The press repeatedly fails to challenge Hillary's assertions of her experience, does not even mention in passing the fact that her own campaign couldn't give an example of her 3am crisis experience, does not ask about her tax returns, does not ask where she and Bill have gotten that $35 million, does not delve into the multiple legal battles in which the Clintons are involved - none of it.
They've had two years to rake her over the coals, as she accuses they've done, and they have not done so.
Yes, Obama has questions to answer regarding Rezko and his NAFTA memos. And it's fair for the press to ask them. But they're not asking Hillary those sorts of questions, nor have they ever.
I'm not interested in your blog roll of writers who say the media is harder on Hillary. "Harder" isn't an interesting measure of media treatment. That's "he said she said." What I'm interested in is that Obama seems open season for grilling on his policy and campaign issues, and the press has never bothered to subject Hillary to the same standard.
Fairness would be correcting that imbalance, but no attempt is made to do so. Instead, the media are falling all over themselves to prove how "unbiased" they are, an exercise in futility if ever I saw one, because we all know reporters have biases. It's better to state them and address them rather than make some ham-handed attempt to act like they don't exist.
But the media isn't interested in fairness. Fairness is boring, clinical. Fairness doesn't increase viewership. She framed the question you should answer - whether you're being harder - and you're playing her game by answering it.
March 4, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
One "NAFTA memo." Not "Obama's." Not anyone's from his campaign.
March 4, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I should have said "the NAFTA memo." Hey, I was on a roll :)
March 4, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to agree with furion, Greg. You are happily (pathetically) playing her game. I expect better from TPM.
March 4, 2008 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure this thread and this issue are already lost to history, but you should add Mark Ambinder to the "not so much" category on "Wither Hillary's Getting A Raw Deal".
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/the_press_and_bias.php#more
Really, he says that it has been too hard on Hillary and not too light on Obama so stick him in which ever category you prefer. It's a pretty serious take on the issue though.
March 4, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Read my book."
Not a very effective response, Greg.
March 5, 2008 12:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'll never quite understand why the press has stopped pursuing the Hillary's White House records and tax documents bit. On the other hand, I don't get why Barack isn't playing her dodge more than he is. I get it that he doesn't like the negative campaigning, but it goes to one of his central themes: transparency. It seems a natural for him to go after it and he can do it in a comparative way without looking too negative.
What really irks me is how negative Hillary has become over the last week or so. That "Me and McCain" bit really ticked me off. I used to like both candiadtes, now I don't.
So much for party unity.
March 4, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's gotten beaten up a little as far as "when is she going to drop out, dead candidate walking" meme is concerned. But she has gotten a complete pass on her tax returns and Bill's activities over the last 7 YEARS. Don't any reporters think there might be some interesting news there?
Obama needs to highlight how ridiculously unfair it is to the Democrats for Hillary to insist her party nominate her BEFORE she releases her tax returns. He also needs to use this issue to hit back and hit back hard whenever she talks about being "vetted" and there being "no surprises" with her.
I'd also like his campaign to do their own "Rezko" conference calls over Bill's relationship with the uranium dealer and Kazakhstan. Seems there are a whole lot of the "unanswered questions" there.
March 4, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
But if it were reversed and Obama had lost 11 in a row by BIG margins, and had an insurmountable delegate deficit they'd be treating him like they are treating Huckabee. Hillary is for some reason still seen as a legitimate runner, despite all reason. The media's ignoring the obvious is the only reason she still has a campaign, just as the media NEVER questioning her "experience" and "ready on Day One" bullshit is the only reason she ever had a campaign in the first place.
It just blows my mind that the campaign that has gotten the biggest help from the media is the one bitching about the media bias, and people are actually believing it and becoming more biased (in the other direction) as a result! Talk about "can I get you a pillow"!!
March 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
True, I'd forgotten about that angle. I guess what I wanted to say is they tend to harp on her for the petty stuff but let her slide with the egregious stuff.
Think they'll cover the obvious caucus-rigging in Texas and vote-rigging in Ohio? Don't get your hopes up. Farrakhan might say Obama's name again! Why hasn't he distanced himself from Farrakhan??!!1
March 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm pretty sure the press bias is part of a vast right-wing conspiracy, and maybe even some sexism and misogyny. Because God knows the Clintons never do anything wrong. They're always so unreasonably picked upon.
Let me ask you: Is there any candidate other than Hillary who could have lost 11 contests in a row, never led a day in pledged delegates, trail by 150 delegates, and still be considered a viable candidate by the press? Wouldn't you consider THAT to be a type of bias. I believe even Josh made that same point recently.
March 4, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's a basically unquestioned assumption underlying this that every candidate should get an equal amount of negative coverage in order for the media to be "fair."
This is silly. Candidates deserve the amount of negative coverage that they bring on themselves.
One can argue that Hillary deserves less negative coverage than she receives, but not necessarily that Obama deserves more.
This line of argument has sent the media out to drum up some pretty thin negative stories. The Rezko thing basically doesn't have much meat to it (if there's something there, prove me wrong, but don't just run with days of innuendo). A semantic debate with Canadians. The fact that he gives too much hope (perish the thought). The fact that he hasn't been in the Senate long (note to critics: his supporters KNOW this. They don't care.)
Truly harmful stories with import and staying power will out themselves. The fact is that these stories haven't been coming up where Obama is concerned. This may not be because the media isn't being "fair", it may be because these stories aren't out there, so they can't be reported.
March 4, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that the press has been hard on Hillary on the silly stuff: her laugh, clothes, is she likable, if this or that phrase has racist connotations, Bill and so on. But regarding to real stories that need to be addressed, like the exchange of favors with Bill Clinton's rich donors (clearly a conflict of interest there, if you ask me), the tax returns, and so on, has been very little out there. You can say that the Obama campaign has been a little bit naive on not pressing on these issues but that's the way they want to be.
March 4, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
GOP used the "liberal media" bias to their advantage. The Clintons use the traditional media in the same way.
Charge bias and if you're enough of a celebrity, then watch the media hover around you with microphones pointed and cameras whirring. Now, though, the folks on the internet pick and prod and destroy the careful plots. This is what has really caught the Clintons by surprise.
My take, as an Obama supporter, is always that folk (including reporters) find comfort in the familiar. The Clintons are familiar. Obama is not.
March 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Umm, this whole media bias thing is silly.
http://www.journalism.org/node/10004
Obama is getting it worse than Hillary. Where are those tax returns? How much did Mark Rich pay the Clinton foundation/library? How is bill making money these days?
March 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Obama is right to push back by telling the press they "fell for it". Playing on their pride is better than throwing mud at Clinton.
I think he needs to push it one step further and call out Hillary for her Whitewater-esque hypocrisy.
Clinton sees the press as being unfair to her, so her remedy is not for them to be fair to her, it is to be more unfair to the other guy. That's her lesson from Whitewater and the rest of the 90's. It's sort of chilling when you think about what lessons she draws from all that "experience".
March 4, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
re: "most press observers and pundits have basically agreed"
I count 18 in that linked post as of this writing.
And, silly me, I thought these days -- with the internets and cable TV and all -- that the list would probably be a few dozen long if not a few hundred. Who needs stats and science when you can casually assert in a major online forum that "most" people of any kind think something?
March 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has said he wouldn't run a negative campaign. Just because he is getting an increased amount of scrutiny, I would prefer him to continue in his ways, and not steep to her level.
March 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree Obama should not stoop to Clinton's negative campaigning. But he should definitely find out who in the Republican party aided-and-abetted the Canadians leaking that secret diplomatic cable about Goolsbee's meeting with the Canadian consulate in Chicago. Then go negative on those assholes ASAP.
March 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
The so-called "1,300-word memo" was posted by ABC News late last night or early this morning:
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/Canwest%20News_1.pdf
(h/t to Elizabeth2)
The CBC has links to a new video clip about the leaking of that "memo":
http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/story/2008/03/04/primaries-election.html
The Real Player version streams better. (h/t to Tsam)
Turns out the CBC reporter gave a very sharp analysis of the Conservative govt. meddling in American politics. The reporter quotes diplomatic sources in Canada as saying they deeply regret misinterpreting Goolsbee's comments, said the Obama campaign is extremely angry about this obvious meddling by the Tory govt., as a result Canadian foreign ministry sources are deeply worried that this leak of a secret diplomatic cable has chilled all American campaigns against speaking to the Canadians. Reporter stressed that nobody in the Canadian press is ever able to gain access to such classified embassy cables, not even under their FOIA, implying this was a deliberate Tory leak to hurt Obama.
So, that was no "1,300-word memo," it was reported to be a highly classified, secret diplomatic cable. On its face, the document admitted the Canadians were engaging in "ongoing election reporting and intelligence gathering efforts." However, there are no classification markings or legends, it is not signed, and indeed it looks like a mere fax transmission (misdated as "07/11/2019").
OTOH, there is a lot of self-serving puffery from the obviously-totally-naive Goolsbee, who the cable paraphrases as saying -- to a foreign govt. -- "Should Obama win the White House, Goolsbee figures to remain a close advisor." Fat chance. Kiss that job goodbye, professor.
March 4, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
The paradox here is that the media would not be so quick to agree with her if they were actually biased against her.
A candidate's quality should be judged on their merits, not artificially balanced in the news coverage. Reality can have a bias for one candidate or another.
March 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
This whole tax thing with HRC is really getting to bug me. It really is starting to smell funny. Its like the little kid standing in front of his/her closed closet door saying "..oh...theres NOTHING in there...nope...dont need to look in there!!!..." Even if it turns out there is nothing wrong with whats ont he returns, WHY make look so ??? There is a veil of "something" going on here, and quite frankly - I deserve better ! We all do !! So disapointing, and so damn frustrating !! ( and I kinda like the gal !! But, shes losing me. )
March 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
What Obama is trying to do is to figure out how he can continue to be on a roll without the media on his side.
But the problem is that that was always basic to his success. Take away the glowing commentary going his way, and what's left?
March 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Before the Iowa caucuses I don't recall all that much "glowing" coverage of Obama. Instead, Edwards had more of the "glow," IIRC. But then Obama out-organized everybody in Iowa, doubled the turnout, brought an entire new generation into the caucuses, in other words, succeeded. First, he succeeded. Then, he started getting glowing coverage.
Obama's face on the cover of Ebony, Newsweek and BusinessWeek (or was it News & World Report) all in the same week happened after Super Tuesday, not before.
Although, there was a lot of glowing coverage four years ago after his Dem convention speech.
March 4, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Barack can go negative without appearing negative. He needs to do this ASAP.
Billary = Deadlock.
Billary = Republican Fundraising.
Billary = Scandal.
Billary = Negativity. Not Solutions.
A rough brainstorm: Is there a way for Barack to tie the rise of FoxNews and Right Wing radio to the Clinton rise in the 90's? Say something like: "If Hillary goes forward, we will see MORE Rush, Hannity, Michael Savage.... They love her because she gives them hope and money and a reason for being mean, dirty, and loud. Bush became President becuase of Billary's failings."
March 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a FULLER account of his comments today (the Page and Ben Smith only glossed over them).
http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/obama_says_he_will_campaign_as.html
March 4, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Publicus H., How about this from Michelle Obama?
"This is a tough game, you know. I mean, this is how it goes," she said. "This hasn't been anything other than what we expected. So, you know, you gotta be ready for tough questions and I think he's handled himself well…He's been pretty cool, calm and collected through this whole year, most of which he's been down in the polls. He wasn't supposed to be here…He's shown his toughness."
Fractal H.
March 4, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Plus the article quoted a campaign source as saying turnout in heavily Hispanic precincts is lower than expected, is higher than expected in precincts which are heavily African-American, and is slightly higher than projected in precincts dominated by students. Source said turnout is strongest in Dallas and Austin.
The fact that turnout among Hispanics is often low is consistent with their turnout over the past several election cycles, which is the exact reason why those Hispanic precincts get less credit in the post-primary caucuses that will start at 7:15 tonight. Clinton was complaining that that second step of the "Texas two-step" is unfair, but those are the rules, Senator.
March 4, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Barack should also slam the MSM for not covering his clear VICTORIES with enough positive coverage. That might be a way for him to spin it back his way.
March 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, he's been very clear, just the other day on 60 minutes he indicated that he was not going to go dirt digging, period. So I'd like to see him reminding the press and Hillary and McCain that he expects them to stick to those ground rules - in fact I'd like to see him reminding them every time he's asked one of these gotcha questions.
He can raise the bar on our ugly campaign process but I don't believe he'll be able to do it without embarassing the others into going along.
And if he figures out how to do that, I can't see how he can lose the election in November, people are so fed up with the ugliness.
March 4, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
so greg points to the opinions of writers and political hacks as proof that the media is tougher on hillary.
opinions are facts.
when you have some concrete facts, then we can talk. but just because joe klein (among other people) is buying into hillarys whining, doesn't make it true.
March 4, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary has proven that she can handle the pressure and the scritiny that comes with running for the highest office in the land. She has been attacked personally for years. She gets up and continues fighting. Obama says everyone is picking on him. We can't call him by his name, we can't question his boneheaded mistakes, we can't ask why he lied about the Canada/NAFTA meeting. He needs to answer tough questions and be able to stand up to scrutiny if he wants to lead this country.
March 4, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
its been my experience watching this campaign that it has been Hillary who has been whining about the press "picking on" her.
but maybe you've been watching these events from another universe than i.
March 4, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
What sells papers are fires, murders and anything gory, and a good horse race. The press wants a horse race, folks! Hillary stumbled out of the gate in Iowa, is still behind at the 3/4 pole, and won't come home ahead on the short track ahead of her. She should have thrown off Mark Penn and Bill to lighten her saddlebags before she got in the gate. Tear up your Hillary tickets everybody!
March 4, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's not forget another huge motive for the media to further the illusion of a horse race: most of those many millions of dollars that Hillary and Barack are raising go into the media coffers so long as the race continues. When it ends, that particular gravy train gets derailed.
No small consideration.
March 4, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course, it's hard to write nice things about someone who has lost the last 11 primaries and caucuses and who has not had a delegate lead at any point in the dem race thus far. And it's been a long race this time 'round.
The press has basically been carrying Hillary since Super Tuesday -- any other repeat-losing candidate would have been laughed off the stage by now -- and Camp Hillary is going to complain about coverage?
Camp Hillary is obviously working the refs -- whilst they concurrently sow a 1000 seeds of doubt in 100 different directions. "Obama is definitely not a Muslim, as far as I know," with a wink Hillary sayeth.
If Hillary wins anything today (even +5 delegates, still leaving her way behind), the press will carry her futile campaign another 7 painful weeks until PA. That's gonna hurt... me, Dems and the nation. She'll get uglier and uglier as her campaign just runs on the free ride the media gives her and her negative campaign.
The press will continue to give her a free ride as if she is owed something that no other candidate in either party has been. Bill might owe her. Many party insiders might. But we don't, democrats don't, and neither does the press.
She deserves decency, as any candidate does, as well as their supporters, but if she does not stomp Obama tonight and seriously pull mega delegates to her camp, the press needs to call a spade a spade and say she's done, not enable another 7 weeks of ugly campaigning from a guaranteed nomination loser (not to mention her GE weaknesses such as half the country insisting they would never vote for her).
Perhaps the real key to understanding her working the refs strategy is not so much to recognize her desire to puff up friendly coverage for herself or negative stories on Obama per se, but to see how it allows her to proceed on as if the nomination is somehow achievable for her, to have the press ignore the obvious reality and not write that the emperor simply has no clothes, all in the slim hopes that Obama somehow steps on own his dick before the convention.
March 4, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe Obama should start crying like Hillary?
No, wait, he has class. Nevermind.
March 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Greg, here's a thought. Instead of waiting for Obama to (finally, as you put it) push back on the idea that the media has been tougher on Hillary than him - as if you needed some sort of cue from him to stop repeating Hillary's talking points verbatim - you could just stop repeating Hillary's talking points verbatim. You know, save yourself a few keystrokes and all.
March 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmm.. you mean actually do their job and not take their writing assignments from Hillary's campaign?
There's a novel idea.
March 4, 2008 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not really sure how long ago Clinton started using these "unfair press coverage" talking points, it could have been going on behind the scenes for months for all I know. Just 'cuz Greg gave some coverage today to the fact that the press started surveying itself and navel-gazing about their "boys on the bus" pack mentality last week doesn't necessarily mean Greg is carrying water for Clinton.
If you checked out the Swamp item linked by Publicus Hussein, you might relax a little. I get the feeling Obama's field staff knows they are going to crush in Texas, so they are soft-peddling the turnout numbers. I sure hope so, anyway.
March 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's easier for them to type straight off the Clinton talking points than it is to engage in actual critical thinking.
March 4, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's like Bush complaining that the press only covers the bad stories of Iraq, and not the good stories.
March 4, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Made me laugh with that one!
March 4, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmm... this trend seems to occur every time we near a primary date in which the momentum appears to be in Obama's favor (remember New Hampshire anyone?).
Perhaps we should look at the motive of the press in more simple terms... the longer this battle continues, the higher their ratings are sustained and the more news cycles they process.
I imagine we'll see the momentum start to shift back to Obama's camp after tonight, when Hillary declares victory. And I suspect she will, regardless of whether she wins or not.
March 4, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
ErinR, I think you nailed it. If Obama had won NH, a lot of advertisement would had been been lost
March 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
It depends on the way you consider "tougher." On BS stories about her, definitely yes, but a lot of it was space-filler over last year (And Obama got some of it too. Remember his "madrassa"?). But Maureen Dowd raised a great point, and Jon Stewart followed up on it when Clinton went on his show last night. If the positions were switched and it was Obama who had lost 11 primaries in a row, wouldn't the press be demanding he get out? On that and a lot of policy and transparency issues, I think Clinton's gotten off easy.
March 4, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everyone is saying that the press has been bias toward Obama, but what has the press said about Clinton this is unfair? The way I see it, bad actors should get bad press! Unless you are on CNN, then there are two side to every issue, and neither one is ever wrong, no matter how ridiculous the situation.
March 4, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well well well...who's whining now?! Let's face it...whoever is behind is going to whine, be it Hillary or Obama. Now it's his turn.
Hillary's supporters make up a much larger group than Barack's supporters seem to realize. What part of 45%/45% don't they understand?
If Hillary wins even Ohio, and comes in neck and neck in Texas, don't think she's going to bow out of this one. She has never said she would, though several others have made that prediction. And she shouldn't. If half the popular vote is hers, the Superdelegates have every right to vote in her favor.
BO thought he had put HRC behind him, and started acting like the nominee. How arrogant! Even McCain, who very obviously has the nomination locked up, is keeping humble about it.
March 4, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Let me ask you: Is there any candidate other than Hillary who could have lost 11 contests in a row, never led a day in pledged delegates, trail by 150 delegates, and still be considered a viable candidate by the press?"
Let me ask you: who was the last candidate with more than 1,000 delgates in March who the press insisted should drop out of the race? Just because Obama supporters want to declare "Mission Accomplished" doesn't mean Hillary is under some obligation to do what they say.
And by the way, she trails by about 110 delegates when the supers are included. They do get a vote, you know. I know Obama's supporters have already assigned the vast majority of those to Obama, but it appears they're sticking with Hillary.
March 4, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Funny how quickly Obama starts to whine and whine and whine when, for the first time, bad press goes his way.
March 4, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
In whining about the press, all the while losing 11 in a row (sometimes by huge margins), Camp Hillary made the press part of the story. Obama has a right to respond.
March 4, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Might work with more integrity-driven people. Not with the MSM. Not in a presidential election.
Carville's right about at least one thing. Repetition. Repetition. Repetition. Not everyone is paying as much attention as you are, unfortunately.
March 4, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess Barack needs some Cheese to go with that Whine. But I know he and his backers will cry and whine and get their way, they always have.
March 4, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
The fact that Obama even says this speaks volumes. I guess he wonders how he made it this far without anything really non positive being spoken of him and doesn't like the scrutiny of late? That was obvious in the clip of his press conference when he walked off the stage. As one who questions the media's role in making Bill's comments about "fairy tale" suddenly racist, because the Obama camp complained, is definitely more tough on Hillary. The fact of the Obama campaign complaining to CNN and having Begala, Carville, and Zimmerman removed from their lineup shows a little more toughness on Hillary than Obama. I didn't see any of his supporters being removed. Or we have the slurs about Bill and the Jesse Jackson comment being racist while CNN discussed this earlier and it was not deemed racist then. Yes, I personally feel the media has been tougher in their coverage of Hillary especially CNN with the likes of most coverage couched in derogatory or negative terms. Since when if ever have the Clintons been accused of racism until the Obama campaign started complaining of such? Maybe I am biased being a woman also, but I think if you are going to cover a campoaign then at least do it with some modicum of fairness. I wonder if the Obama campaign would be accused of, if behind, throwing the "kitchen sink" at her? And I am still waiting for the media to discuss his suits, hairdo and voice. And would someone correct me if I am wrong, but don't tax returns have to be openly filed after you become the candidate and not a necessity before? And would anyone really change their vote for her if she did release them? That is nothing but pure spin and another something that can be thrown at her meaning nothing.
March 4, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good call Obama.
The Clinton campaign has been working the refs for weeks. Now, get back on offense. And move beyond the wisdom you showed in opposing the Iraq War. You’re starting to sound like a one-pony show.
Instead, find a way to challenge HRC’s claims to 35 years of public service. This is a national job interview – and her resume is padded.
The past – Part I
* Ask her to explain the public service component of her work from 1977 to 1993 at the Rose Law Firm, where she was its first female partner. Does that count as 15+ years of public service? Or does it mean, she really only has 20 years of service?
*Ask her to explain her role in the failed healthcare reform initiative she spearheaded – and account for why she never took up the fight again during the remaining years in office.
* Ask her about her input into the Clinton Administration’s decision to not intervene in the slaughter of the minority Tutsi ethnic group in Rwanda – the worst genocide since 6 million Jews were killed in WWII. Per the NY Times, June 10, 1994: The Clinton Administration’s response to rising pressures to stop the mass killings was to instruct its spokesmen not to describe the deaths as genocide.
The Present – Part II
* Ask HRC to explain how Bill used his connections during a September 2006 visit with the Kazakhstan dictator and human rights violator, Nursultan Nazarbayev, to secure a huge uranium contract for Canadian mining financier Frank Giustra – a deal “that stunned the mining industry.” (Guistra later returned the favor with a $31.3 million donation to the William J. Clinton Foundation, on top of the $100 million already pledged). Per the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html?pagewanted=print
* Ask about Bill’s now-severed ties with entrepreneurs Ronald W. Burkle and Vinod Gupta, who used Bill’s clout to expand their businesses while making the Clintons rich through partnership and consulting arrangements.
And when you done asking these questions, I’m sure you’ll have a good idea why the Clintons won't make available records about her years as First Lady, come clean on the Clinton Foundation and don’t want to release their tax returns. They're hedging their bets that if she loses, they won’t have to.
March 4, 2008 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Still waiting, btw, for TPM reporting on Hillary's endorsement of McCain over Obama:
Rachel Maddow: "That's what you say when you want to be John McCain's Vice Presidential choice. That's not what you say when you are trying to become the Democratic nominee for president."
Keith Olbermann: "Unbelievable."
TPM: [crickets]
Oh well. It's been covered pretty extensively elsewhere. Guess TPM can just blow it off.
March 5, 2008 4:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just an overall observation here: You ever notice how most Obama supporters are completely uneducated in the history of the last 16 years? Maybe it's because they were still in diapers when most of recent history was occurring, but still....
Anybody who thinks Clinton has gotten a free ride needs to watch just a little less American Idol and Entertainment Tonight and um... you know... read. Learn history. And TV Land doesn't count.
March 5, 2008 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink