Breaking: Obama Campaign Raises $55 Million In February
In an extraordinary haul, the Obama campaign confirms that it raised an astonishing $55 million in February.
More than $45 million of it was raised online.
Woah.
Remember, when the Hillary campaign announced they'd raised in the neighborhood of $36 million for the month, the Obama camp played it close to the vest, saying only that they'd raised "considerably more." They held off on releasing the figures until now -- after the March 4th voting -- which prompted speculation that they were hoping to release the numbers to either shift the story away from Hillary's victories or put a final nail in the Hillary campaign's coffin had she not had a good showing.
Whatever their reasons for holding off until now, it's an extraordinary pull.
Late Update Some more stats from the campaign:
* Contributors: 727,972* First Time Contributors: 385,101
* Total Contributors – Campaign to Date: 1,069,333
Online Fundraising:
* More than $45 million raised online in February
* More than 90% of online donations were $100 or less
* More than 50% of online donations were $25 or less
* More than 75% of online donors in February were first-time online donors
* More than a third of those new online donors in February went on to engage in volunteer activity on My.BarackObama.com (planning their own offline events, making phone calls from home, joining local grassroots volunteer groups)















It's amazing the level of expectations Obama has set on fund raising that this seems good but not awesome. I would really be interested to hear what they picked up since Tuesday. Clinton is reporting $4 million, which is impressive.
March 6, 2008 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
What are you talking about? This is totally awesome. It's one of the most impressive fundraising months in American history!
March 6, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's the thing. By all realistic standards, it is awesome. But I have such high expectations of Obama's fundraising that I feel these numbers meet, but do not exceed, my expectations.
March 6, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I mean that I literally expected $60 million. That's why I thought they were so cagey. Not denying how awesome this is. I recognize that it's not only one of the greatest fundraising months ever. It is the single gretest fundraising month ever. And in just 29 days.
March 6, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stupid open italics tag.
March 6, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's amazing, doing the math his average donation amount is only $75 dollars. And yet he's somehow supposed to be the candidate of "limousine liberals" while Clinton is hauling in all these $4,600 dollar max-out contributions.
Excuse me while I take back my party. Go Obama!
March 6, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton hauled in 36 million?
And McCain hauled in, what, about $9.11?
This is obviously EXCELLENT NEWS for the Republicans...and points to the pitfalls that the Democrats will face.
Or so I expect to read in tomorrow's NY Times...
March 6, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Give 'em hell, Barrack! I did my part for today ($50). Any speculation on Clinton's numbers?
March 6, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I gave $25 today, and $25 two days ago. Obama, of course.
March 6, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is $20 million more than Ms Clinton and 5X that of Mr McCain. I am astounded.
Of course he needs even more now...
March 6, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! OK, Obama supporters, let's make it $60M in March! :^)
March 6, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Already did my part yesterday but will add more next pay-day! Gobama!
March 6, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
So will I! Obama '08!
March 6, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too. $100 yesterday, however much I can muster next pay-day.
March 6, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too. $50 is all my wife can afford this week (damn gas prices) but it's going to help provide for a more honest and honorable country.
We CAN change this country.
We CAN unite this country.
We CAN change our politics.
We CAN unite our party.
March 6, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup. Just donated again.
March 6, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
"the campaign said more than 90 percent of the online donations in February were for $100 or less."
It takes a lot to shock me anymore. That's freakin amazing.
BUT - did these donations come from small states, or big states?! Cause we all know big state donations are worth more.
March 6, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Beautiful.
obama 08' + 12'
March 6, 2008 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
go Obama...
March 6, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
March 6, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why does this still make me laugh every single friggin time?!? Thanks!
March 6, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me, too...
March 6, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL Jerome, is that you?
March 6, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
So $91MM in two months. Unfuckingbelievable. And I just donated again....
March 6, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yay! And Hillary is doing awesome, too! It is just an incredible year. These two candidates will both make history.
I think I'll go see if we can do $60 million for March...
:O)
March 6, 2008 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can someone please explain to me what Bill Clinton was doing on the Rush Limbaugh show the morning of the Ohio and Texas votes. I realize a vote is a vote but cashing in on the dittohead endorsement seems very, very wrong to me.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_030408/home.guest.html
March 6, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton was doing for Rush what Monica did for him.
Whoring himself out.
March 6, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's not fair ... to Monica. She was just Star Struck.
March 6, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the audio:
http://images.radcity.net/5155/2461772.mp3
March 6, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
This audio is unbelievable. Imagine if Obama had gone on the Limbaugh show and received this softball treatment. If you can't imagine it, just remember what happened when he made an innocuous statement about Reagan during the Nevada caucuses. The Clintons went ballistic and the media covered it non-stop for a week.
Where is the coverage of this far more interesting and nefarious connection to America's chief right wing nut?!
March 6, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Could be that they were just too busy counting the money to report it when she did.
March 6, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
So far, Obama has won more votes (600,000 or so), more pledged delegates, more states, more primaries, more caucuses, can beat McCain by a bigger margin, and now I see that he raised substantially more money in February. And yes, the obamaniacs of the world seem fired up and ready to go.
I have a hard time spinning it as bad news.
Felix
March 6, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Finally... signs of life from the BHO campaign.
March 6, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Check the website out. Super-delegates are coming in too. Not in the rumored 50-SD bloc as rumored, but so far 3 in 2 days.
Hillary had a fantastic Tuesday and netted what 8 delegates?
This Saturday *should* wipe those gains away with a quickness, and next Tuesday Obama should expand his lead.
March 6, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am an Obama supporter and I have given money to his campaign. But, as the campaigns have announced that they have raised massive amounts of money, I can't help but feel that money might be better spent in a charitable donation. It's becoming like an arms race.
March 6, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Think of it as an investment in our economic well being. The money is used to buy advertisment, rent offices, buy food, pay for transportation, all things vital to our economy. It's like a mini-stimulus plan that rolls around the country.
March 6, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is amazing and counterintuitive that all this money is being directed against Democrats by Democrats!
March 6, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
True, but Demcrats who care passionately about the future of their party.
No contributor should feel their money is "wasted", as long as they believe in the overall goals of their candidate.
Question though: can this money be used in the General?
March 6, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes - anything left is available for the General. Since so many of these donations are small, virtually all of this money is available now.
Compare this with Hillary who has almost a third of all her donors who've given the max in the primary AND already given her the max in the general. ($4600 total) http://opensecrets.org/pres08/donordems.asp?filter=A&sortby=X
March 6, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find myself wishing the primaries were over so I could start contributing money to help win in November.
March 6, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I donated my usual $25 tidbit yesterday. w00t!
March 6, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Impressive total but Ron Paul has raised incredible sums of money without that translating into political support.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/news-shocker-ro.html
March 6, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
And he didn't even have to loan himself $5 extra large!
March 6, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is your point. If Obama were really the Ron Paul of the Democratic party we would not be having this conversation. Obviously Obama's fundraising abilities have correlated with his electoral successes, as evidenced by the fact that he has one-time presumptive nominee on the ropes.
March 6, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great! So glad they finally posted the donations. I was getting a little worried there...not about the $$...just in terms of getting some good news out there again.
March 6, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Will this be the first time a candidate has a $100MM quarter? He raised $100MM all of last year. This is nuts. Just nuts. And I'm not even close to maxing out yet.
March 6, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Democratic Party:
Please take a look around and wake the hell up as to what is going on around here. Right-wing radio is actively campaigning for Clinton. She engages in mud-slinging then accuses Obama of imitating Ken Starr. She discounts red states and the will of voters in caucus states. Obama raises $55 million on the back of a million donors. He is breathing life into the democratic party in midwest and mountain west states.
Obama is the future. Clinton is the past.
You know this. So wake. The hell. Up.
Thank you.
March 6, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow.
And how much good did all that money do him on Mar 4? If he has to spend twice as much as Hillary (or more) to get far fewer votes, that should make the Obama campaign proud why, exactly?
March 6, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Held her to a net gain of 4 pledged delegates and I believe she was broke at the end of the month, or at least not paying her debt. Still 150+ pledged delegates ahead and picked up another 4 or 5 super delegates since Tuesday.
But hey, she won on Tuesday right? Cut his lead to 25 delegates. Wait, no tied him in delegates. Wait, what was the metric again that the Clintons were spinning prior to March 4th?
I'm going to go donate another $25 just for you posting a stupid comment.
March 6, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Poor return on investment is what I'd call all this money thrown at Obama.
But by all means, go ahead, throw away more of your money on the guy. It will be amusing to see all of you Obama supporters losing a little disposable income to no discernible effect.
March 6, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd say the same to you. Your highness promised you she would be tied in the delegate count after March 4th. How'd that work out for you?
March 6, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, and I hate to break the news to you still again, but Obama lost the popular vote in 3 of the 4 states on Mar 4.
The bottom line is that superdelegates are not likely to be impressed by Obama's margin in pledged delegates if Hillary wins the overall popular vote.
And, in fact, the more there's an obvious discrepancy between the popular vote and the pledged delegate count -- as was clearly true on Mar 4 -- the less legitimacy will be conferred by pledged delegate count.
So by all means, play up the fact that the pledged delegate count is so out of kilter with the popular vote. That's an argument that's very likely going to bite you in the ass at the end of the primary season, when your guy tries to argue with superdelegates that they should vote for him because of the pledged delegate count.
March 6, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remind me again how many popular votes does each candidate need to obtain the Democratic nomination? I'm sure you've got that number handy somewhere, right? Or is it big states that they need to win the nomination?
Seriously, you must be exhausted from constantly moving the goal posts. Can someone get frankly0 a fresh glass of haterade?
March 6, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not good at following logic are you?
Everybody knows that neither Obama nor Hillary is going to have enough pledged delegates at the end of the primaries to become the nominee.
They will depend on the superdelegates.
But the superdelegates will decide their vote based on the "legitimacy" of a candidate as nominee, as well as electability considerations.
But the number of pledged delegates is not going to confer legitimacy if the popular vote goes the other way. And nothing goes more to the heart of electability than success in large, swing states.
So by all means, play up how Obama has done so much better with pledged delegates than he has done with the popular vote. The more people in the public become aware of this, the less the public will see pledged delegates as anything other than an arbitrary and irrelevant number.
March 6, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do not understand the argument that success in primaries in swing states will translate to success in the general. If anyone can show me a past correlation here (from a year where the nominee was actually still in question when some of these states voted) I might buy it.
But your argument about both candidates needing super-delegates rings true. I wonder if these super-delegates might be interested in backing a candidate who has a record-breaking ability to raise money through tons of small donors, few of which are maxed out already? I think they might.
March 6, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, I do not know that Frankly0 has yet made a convincing point that was not trivially true, but I always read his posts. I suppose that is a testament to his entertainment value, and entertainment value is not nothing. As such, I tip my hat to you, dear Frankly0. You might be a clown, but you are a first-rate clown.
March 6, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I follow logic quite well. The popular vote count shows that Obama leads by 600M in DNC sanctioned contest, excluding several causes (Iowa, Washington and Nevada). So what's your point? Oh wait, you are moving those goal posts again, trying to make your alternate universe reality. All that and he's grabbed another 5 superdelegates since March 4th.
You realize when you have to spin that's proof that the facts aren't on your side. Seriously, why not head back to hillaryis44.org? I'm sure folks in that echo chamber would love to hear your fascinating new math. And I'm upping my donation to $50.
March 6, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Frankly0,
If Obama supporters are rubes for donating to a supposedly lost cause, I assume you have maxed out both the primary & general election contributions for Hillary. $4600. Talk about a sure investment from your vantage point. Who knows, you might get an autographed picture of her with Mark Penn.
March 6, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Frankly0, the SDs, being in general deeply pragmatic people, will look at those maps on TPMs front page- the ones showing Obama doing even better than HRC against McCain, the popular vote, the delegate vote, fund raising, enthusiasm and ability to choose decent people to surround himself with. They will look at HRCs entire campaign consisting of "I have more experience" and "I can out-thug the Republicans" and realize all America will fall over laughing at the thought of her going against McCain with these 2 arrows in her quiver. This will lead them to go overwhelmingly to Obama.
March 6, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude.
What are you talking about? The only thing that matters is pledged delegates, and Obama has a 150 delegate lead. Hillary won 10 last night. That's less then what Obama got out of DC alone.
Without the money, he would have done worse. So, if we donate to Obama, and he wins enough delegates to keep his margin, or even lose his margin by a small enough amount, he'll still be the nominee.
On the other hand, if we don't donate, and he dosn't have enough money to even keep his margin, then he'd lose and wouldn't be the nominee.
Hillary can continue to win primaries, and if she does good for her. But that alone will not make her the Nominee, because she's lost so many by such margins already.
March 6, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, did you say something?
March 6, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....
Oh, sorry, you thought you were saying something interesting.
How about this. Clinton was ahead by 20 points in all 4 states. Obama closed that gap and lost only 4 of his delegate lead on March 4.
Go ahead, try to argue his money wasn't well spent.
March 6, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Glad to hear this line again. Of course Hillary sure spent a lot of time an money on a couple states where she had 20 point leads a month ago. And that Texas money got him a net gain of delegates. But sure. I guess it didn't do him any good.
March 6, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
He got more delegates out of Texas than HRC. It's not Obama's fault HRC can't focus on what it takes to actually win.
March 6, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks to me like it got him 12 wins in a row and an almost insurmountable lead in pledged delegates.
But then, I am looking at reality, not fantasy-land where only a few states matter.
March 6, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now be fair. It was close in Texas, you have to admit. But essentially you're right. Had Obama invested his money in shit and shovels the way Hillary did, he'd have won hands down. Well, you know what they say: what goes around comes around.
March 6, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Democratic Party:
Please take a look around and wake the hell up as to what is going on around here. Right-wing radio is actively campaigning for Clinton. She engages in mud-slinging then accuses Obama of imitating Ken Starr. She discounts red states and the will of voters in caucus states. Obama raises $55 million on the back of a million donors. He is breathing life into the democratic party in midwest and mountain west states.
Obama is the future. Clinton is the past.
You know this. So wake. The hell. Up.
Thank you.
March 6, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
thats funny, i wonder how much of that he used in texas, ohio, vermont and rhode island, because the news reports show that he well out spent hillary clinton in those states.... well if he didn't spend that much, then i guess he doesn't have to ask for more money from the low to middle income people....
Its funny.........
Hillary raised less and yet she would texas primary, ohio and rhode island and he only won vermont and who knows she might pull off the texas caucus too........
So trying to buy those votes didn't get him anywhere....
GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess that's one way to think of it. Then again, the footing wasn't really even in any of those states.
March 6, 2008 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
At least you turned off the all-caps this time.
Raising money and spending it to campaign is not "buying votes". If you want a story with a whiff of vote buying, try this one: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/5/15316/82960
March 6, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought Obama was black...looks green to me!!!!
Go Big O!!!!
March 6, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
O'Bama!
March 6, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Donated another $50 to Obama. Glad to see that so many others are continuing to contribute - he's raised an impressive amount, but he's going to need all of the continued support that he can get in the coming weeks.
Money well spent.
March 6, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Short answer: Drumming up votes.
Longer answer: Pwning the Dem Party. Since these were most likely Repub voters that want to see a match up between Hillary and McSame.
March 6, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
If didn't help him in Ohio and Texas.
March 6, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just in case you forgot what the goal posts (as established by the Clinton campaign) were on Tuesday:
And after all that she netted: +4. I'd say that was money well spent. Still 150+ pledged delegates (and over 100 delegates) ahead. I'll take that all day and twice on Sunday's.
March 6, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
word.
March 6, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interestingly, the only MSM reporting this is CNN.com.
I am so sick of them.
Oh, but AP can make time to come out with yet another pointless story about Clinton's irrelevant and non-sensical smears about Ken Starr.
@($*&@#(*$
Not a word on Hillary's tax returns. Or her shady land deals. Or the fact that her experience, isn't. Or that she too accepted money from Rezko and his co-conspirators.
No, no, they have to talk about how Hillary is accusing Obama of being Ken Starr.
Whiskey.
Tango.
Foxtrot.
March 6, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
i wonder what the HRC camp reaction was when they heard the news?
It took them 48hrs to get some good news out, but it was worth the wait. This will be in the news cycle all weekend long and i bet the Hillary camp will try to do something to combat this.
knock this out of the news cycle.
March 6, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
One of the reasons the Clintons have held sway over the Democratic party for so long is their fundraising skill.
I'd wager the fact that Obama can raise simply staggering sums is going to be a huge factor for the super delegates.
March 6, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm in for another $100 today - despite the arms race nature of it all. We are fighting for the future of the country after all.
Regarding outspending Hillary. Why is this such a surprise? She is the wife of a former President for christsake. How else do you do battle with that sort of name recognition and following? Why does everyone forget that he's the underdog?
Man, it so clear to me that we just about had this thing licked. The Hillary supporters had virutally disappeared from the blogs and now they're back!
Oh, the damage that is getting ready to be reaped on this party. It looks like we may be ready to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory after all unless we find a way out of this mess.
March 6, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
FYI HillaryClinton08- yes, he spends lots of money on TV. because HE RAISED MORE THAN ENOUGH money, what's the point if he does not spend the money he got from people to campaign?! Logic is the key word.
March 6, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bret 08, didn't help him in OH and TX??!?!? Gee, I don't know, keeping the net delegate loss to 5-10 when having been behind by 20 points two weeks prior seems like a lot help to me.
March 6, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yea, if he has raised $110 MM, he would have won all four contests!
March 6, 2008 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess you didn't hear, she only got +4 delegates out of that string of victories, since Obama kept her margin so small.
March 6, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
LA Times says much of the money Hillary raised was from illegal immigrants and people that couldn't have afforded the donations.
March 6, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can you provide a link?
March 6, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama can take and raise all the money he wants to but he ain't going to buy my vote.
She is going to win Pennsylvania, north carolina and a few others with out having to raise that much.... she did it in texas, ohio and rhode island and she'll do it again:)
March 6, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really? Win NC? With AA's comprising 40% of the primary electorate and BHO winning them by an 80/20 margin or better? Good luck with that...
March 6, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
But it's not really about "having to raise that much." The campaign has already spent all of their reserved money and doesn't have the capacity to raise nearly as much as their campaign rival. For the Clinton campaign, the story is about what they can do with not enough money, rather than choosing to win frugally. There's no choice involved here.
March 6, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
... and she'll still lose the general.
Sorry, Clinton fans, the math just isn't there for you.
Hillary blew too many early states. But, if it's any consolation, she'll show up to the convention 100+ delegates short, and do her best to sabotage Obama. But, unless she can convince 2 out of 3 super delegates to swing her way....
March 6, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
If she wins North Carolina, I'll eat my hat and post the video on YouTube.
Ain't happenin'.
March 6, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
You seem to forget that Clinton started this campaign as the prohibitive favorite; her campaign pissed away more than $100 mil before Super Duper Tuesday; all of Obama's wins were "come from behind" wins.
Obama is raising money from Everyday People while Clinton is being bankrolled by The Big Money. If she wins anywhere else, it'll be because she bought the Resident Party Machine (see Rendell, et alia), not because she's pure and virtuous.
March 6, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
He doesn't need your vote. It's still a mathematical impossibility for Hillary to take a pledged delegate lead.
And what say you about the 527 that spend a million bucks in TX for her? Millionaire supporters trying to "buy" votes for Hillary.
Did you notice that 90% of Obama's donors in Feb gave under $100? That what's called grassroots support.
March 6, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry dear, Obama won Texas. That's what happens when you don't get distra oooh Ken Starr
March 6, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
HillaryClinton08...let's play let's pretend. Say she does what you say. Then what? Convince the supers to come over her to steal the nomination. Oh that'll be really effective in the general. I don't care if you suport Hillary, fine, but what about the party? What about winning in November? Tell me a good ending to this story because I just don't see it - objectively.
I like the point about the fundraising prowess. It's an obvious point yet it had never really occurred to me that way. I think it really could sway a lot of supers.
March 6, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think its funny.......... He raise 55 million and he out spend her in ohio & texas and yet he couldn't ended the game and become the parties leader.....
I am going to laugh all the way to the bank when she pulls off more wins, while he is raising raising raising all this money....
Maybe when she wins, he'll hand over all that money to her:):):)
Hillary can you spend me some of it when you get it....thanks
lol.... it makes him look stupid i think:)
March 6, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama won Texas.
Look at the DELEGATES, not MSNBC.
Next.
March 6, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
He outspent her 3:1 and erased her 20+ leads in both Texas and Ohio.
The Hillary camp likes to spin her great comeback, but folks here aren't that stupid. We saw that 3 weeks ago Hillary had double-digit leads in both states, huge name recognition advantages and he nearly beat her in the Texas primary, DID beat her in the Texas Caucus and got smeared re: NAFTA for something he didn't do, allowing Hillary to win a substantial victory in Ohio.
In Pennsylvania, the truth about who REALLY contacted Canada will be made known. In Pennsylvania, Rush can't motivate ANY votes.
Hillary has a 15% lead as of today. If Obama closes that to 4% by election day and concedes a whopping 6 delegates to her for the night, who REALLY won the night???
I thought so. Don't worry, he'll be a great President for detractors too...
March 6, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
What did he get for that? 465 delegates since 2/5 to Hillary's 352. That is what is known as the Democratic Nomination.
Money well spent I would say.
March 6, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe Hillary can use a little of her money to buy you a course in Hooked on Phonics.
March 6, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just sent $100. And will send $100 more the next time Wolfson or Penn say something stupid.
March 6, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
You may go broke at that rate.
March 6, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Whatever the reason," Greg? This is political chess 101. Obama knew he was going to drop Ohio and Texas; what better way to blunt Clinton momentum by making this announcement just a couple of days later.
March 6, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good news. I will give a little bit more this month than I gave last and hopefully this will get us where we need to be in PA in a few months time.
March 6, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
The story about the$55 million Obama raised appeared on the NYT home page, (web front page), for approximately 22 minutes.
March 6, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yoo Hoo. Superdelegates... You want some of this love?
That's these numbers mean.
March 6, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. I am sure that the supers are not blind to the financial realities at stake as a result of their choice.
March 6, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
It doesn't matter how much BozObama raises - it won't buy him the Whitehouse. It didn't buy Texas and Ohio. Real Americans can't be bought. Only fools are impressed by money. Its not how much money you have but what you do with it that counts. Yeah - she is poised to win Wyoming and PA. The MI and FL do-overs will go to her. Watch Puerto Rico come through. The patriots of America will vote for Hillary.
March 6, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
re: "Only fools are impressed by money."
Tell that to the wealthy folks who spend a million on Hillary's behalf via some 527 in Texas.
I'll let Obama contrast that in his own words (from an email earlier today):
"No campaign has ever raised this much in a single month in the history of presidential primaries. But more important than the total is how we did it -- more than 90% of donations were $100 or less, and more than 385,000 new donors in February pushed us past our goal of more than 1,000,000 people owning a piece of this campaign." [emphasis added]
March 6, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
And 3 more superdelegates today. Five since Tuesday.
March 6, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
NC? Stop with your crazytalk.....Stick to the idea that all the money raised doesn't count because it wasn't donated by "real Americans", that goes over alot better.
March 6, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn - imagine what all those numbers of donors and volunteers would mean in the general election.
March 6, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm in for another $50, but please don't tell my wife (she is for Obama as well, but is a bit more responsible when it comes to the family budget).
It will be interesting to see how March works its way out. I expect both candidates will do well at raising money, but Obama will continue to maintain an edge.
Too bad that Clinton has opted for the "kitchen sink" strategy. Worse that it proved effective. Obama likely has no choice, but to fight fire with fire (remember the Rose Law Firm, Whitewater, the "vast right wing consipracy," the 1994 Elections, the infamous kiss of Suha Arafat, and those pesky tax returns which she is waiting to reveal after she is the nominee).
As Democrats, wouldn't we all prefer both candidates to use their vast war chests and attack Bush and McSame and demonstrate how they would be more effective ont taking the battle to them? G-D knows that the GOP is going to continue to attack us.
I understand Clinton not wanting to get out of the race now (though the pledged delegate math is hopeless for her), but to continue to use the GOP playbook to go after Obama is murder-suicide.
Given that neither candidate can clinch the nomination without pledged delegates, Clinton must understand that her tactics run a huge risk of alienating super-delegates. Double that for super-delegates who live in the so called "unimportant, small Red states" that also just so happen to elect very important Democratic governors and members of Congress; e.g. Arizona, North Dakota, Montana, Kansas, etc.
In the end, if Obama maintains his pledged delegate and overall popular vote lead, no matter how slim those leads may be, it is very hard to see him not being the nominee.
March 6, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, small correction. HRC raised $35M in February, not $36.
You were perhaps thinking of BHO's $36M in January?
March 6, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think people are starting to take a second look at obama....
Here is a guy that raises 55 million for the month of feb. more than hillary clinton raised.
Spent more money than her in Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont and only won 1 of those states.
Won 11 straight wins and yet he couldn't win Texas, Ohio or Rhode Island after raising that kind of money....
I feel a CHANGE in the air.....Hillary is back:):)
March 6, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
She has a net gain of less than TEN delegates for all her "wins." Obama will make that up in Mississippi. You see the nomination goes to the person with the most DELEGATES.
March 6, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
He won Texas. So, they split the states. In any case, popular vote is meaningless. It plays no role in the selection of the candidate. Nor should it -- popular vote would effectively ignore caucus states.
There is no "taking a second" look at Obama. HRC won with uneducated whites and Hispanics who were never going to vote for Obama in the primary. Obama narrowed a 20 pt gap in a couple of weeks.
March 6, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Arguably, the most important decision in politician career is the decision to send young people to war. Nothing come close.
The History called HRC on the phone, in 2002, but she was busy doing political calculations. And who is paying the price: thousands of young people frying in the desert, and losing their lives, limbs and sanity.
Would trust her answering such a call again?
This race is a clash between 20th century mentality versus 21st century solutions. It's time to let the new century in. Old methods have brought is in the shitty state we're in.
Felix
March 6, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very, very well put. Thank you for this.
March 6, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
HillaryClinton08, if it is hard for you to be logical in thinking, just do simple MATH. isn't it ironic that a person who has no concept of logic or math is the one who laughs and "thinks it's funny"...
March 6, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
He could have dealt Hillary a knockout blow in OH and TX. He spent all of that money, got all of the newspaper and union endorsements, continued to have the MSM fawn all over him, and she is still here. She has more momentum than ever. Hillary is a strong, tough, fighter. Obama is weak. He has all of the advantages and he still can't outright win this nomination. He won 11 in a row and she is still a viable candidate. Something about Obama says not a real winner, not a fighter and not tough enough.
March 6, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The same goes for her. She started out this race with enormous advantages in terms of endorsements, name recognition, connections with party bosses and fundraisers and had leads in the polls absolutely everywhere but IL until she started campaigning. If his inability to win outright indicates that he is weak, then her inability to win outright indicates exactly the same.
I tend to look at it the other way around - the fact that neither can quite finish off the other testifies to both of their strength, not their weakness. If you prefer to put a different spin on it, however, and make out that they are both weak, suit yourself. I hope for all our sakes, however, that you are wrong about that.
March 6, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll remind you again of what Clinton said was the measure of success after March 4th:
blockquote>Tied in delegates.
How'd that work out for you? It must really burn your ass that she's losing so badly to someone you think is so weak.
And it's 12 in row chump. 27-14.
March 6, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Viable?!?
It's a mathematical impossibility for Hillary to take lead in pledged delegates.
Who's drinking the kool-aid now?
March 6, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Bret,
Take off the goggles for a second. Obama has "all the advantages?" In case you didn't know, most people in this country aren't paying as close attention to this as we do. Hillary is the closest thing we have to an incumbent, massive name recognition, entrenched institutional support, the list goes on and on.
Obama has neutralized some of those advantages by superior fundraising and of course, winning more states and delegates. It is called an election. He is currently winning it.
March 6, 2008 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Publicus - what three more today? I only saw 2. Then we lost Boxer to Clinton - supporting her constituents and all that.
McSame...hadn't heard that til today. AWSOME!
March 6, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
He also pick up the support of a superdelegate in West Virginia (in addition to Vermont and I believe Nevada).
March 6, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a pretty sad commentary that the greedy Obama campaign is all about raising ever more money from limousine liberals so they can outspend Hillary two to one, and drown out the voice of the working man and retired folks on fixed incomes. Wealthy Republicans have already installed their choice. Soon affluent Democrats will buy theirs too. And in the fall, most working class Americans will stay home and let the rich folks battle it out.
March 6, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Read the article, skippy.
* More than $45 million raised online in February
* More than 90% of online donations were $100 or less
* More than 50% of online donations were $25 or less
* More than 75% of online donors in February were first-time online donors
Damn limousine liberals cutting $25 checks!
March 6, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
From Daily Kos: "According to the figures from the Obama campaign, they raised $32 million in the month of January from 250,000 donors, which is an average donation of $128 per donor. I would guess that donation amounts have increased since then, just based upon repeat donations due to Obama's success in the recent primaries."
You're counting individual donations rather than donations per individual downer. Every time a limousine liberal gets up in the morning they cuss out the help and send another $100 donation off to Barack as penance.
I don't know why you bother denying that Barack's supporters are more wealthy and affluent when all the polls say so. That's fine. We're just getting a little tired of you waving your greedy money in our faces all the time, acting as if spending twice as much as Hillary makes it a fairer race. It doesn't, and it's getting so that all Obama supporters do anymore is curse out Hillary and announce they're sending more money to Barack. That's changing the tone?
I would like to see where Obama would be today if he didn't always enjoy a 2-1 advantage in money and commercials. It's amusing listening to Obamites saying "when they really get to know Obama, people start to like and vote for him." LOL As if they'd never before seen how politicians buy elections.
March 6, 2008 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ahem.
* More than 90% of online donations were $100 or less
* More than 50% of online donations were $25 or less
* More than 75% of online donors in February were first-time online donors
That's the exact OPPOSITE of "limousine liberals" who are, in fact, bankrolling Clinton's failing campaign.
March 6, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rich folks donating $25 or less? Hillary is the one with the most tapped out donors, those having given $2300, or even $4600 if you count the general election. (And that's not even mentioning Hillary's 527.) Most working folks I know can't give like that.
Perhaps you were being sarcastic
March 6, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember if you've reached your limit in donations, you can still donate by buying Obama gear at barackobama.com
I wanted Obama to win either OH or TX to seal the deal, but I've been turned onto the idea of killing the Clinton political machine with a thousand cuts.
No more drama, vote Obama.
March 6, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Big deal.
He got an extra day last month because it was a leap year.
March 6, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has all the advantages?
Hmmm, let's think, which candidate is
1) Married to the former president and arguably the most popular member of the party;
2) Started the race with a large financial advantage and has the personal resources to draw upon them when needed;
3) Supported by the party insiders and machine;
4) Been a nationally known figure since 1992
5) Blessed with the middle name of Rodham, as opposed to... well you know
6) Lucky to be in a race with a candidate, who has had the restraint not to mention Norman Hsu, Whitewater, etc. when his opponent raised Rezco(I think that luck jsut expired)
I could go on, but any truly objective observer looking at the enirety of this race would have to conclude that the fact Obama is still in this race in March, let alone leading, is a remarkable turn of events for an election that for much of last year and really up untill Iowa looked like it was going to be a coronation for HRC.
March 6, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
idiotic: I love you, never stop
March 6, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think HRC supporters should be the LAST ones to make comments about wasting money... $100,000 on groceries in Iowa, $1,000,000 on hotel rooms in Vegas, Mark Penn Mark Penn Mark Penn = $136,000,000 blown before Feb 5th.
People in glass houses and all.
March 6, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
And don't forget $1,200 in Dunkin' Donuts for Penn's fat ass . . .
March 6, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have done the math.... I'm counting on her to win huge in Pennsylvania and Have those delegates in florida and michigan seated and have the super delegates vote for her....And the polls show the race is tight in all the other states except pennsylvania where she is going to pull off a huge victory:) and win all the others.....
He can have wyoming and mississippi if he wants them.... Hillary wants the big states.... the big states is what it will take to win president, if obama can't win one big state then how can he win as president.....
I am so looking forward to more dirt coming out about him on the news:):)
But when it is all said and done, it will be a clinton/obama ticket
GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 6, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
You've done the math?
Well, so has Jonathan Alter and he came up with this, state by state: http://www.newsweek.com/id/118240
March 6, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
He has already won at least one big state (depending on how you define "big"). He won IL, which is big by anyone's standards. I notice that Mark Penn was counting MA as big as well, and if that is the case then he has won two, because GA is bigger than MA.
Meanwhile, speaking as an Obama supporter I appreciate your entheusiasm for your candidate. I find the scenario which you are spinning terribly implausible, but I think that you are a credit to Sen Clinton (who is a fine candidate) and it speaks well of her that she has been able to inspire the confidence of so winsome a supporter as yourself. I tip my hat to her campaign.
March 6, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is very kind of you--really.
The writer is very enthusiastic--and not in the typical, nasty Clinton supporter way.
March 6, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
The big danger in HRC's negative campaigning is that she is alienating Obama supporters at the same time. IF she wins the nomination, I doubt whether those Obama supporters will be rushing in to support Hillary no matter what. IF she loses, she will have provided ammo for McCain ...such as her comment that when the "phone rings in the White House," when someone answers (eventually) voters would prefer her or McCain over Obama. Hillary started this campaign with mega-negatives, which she is now reinforcing in her conduct of the primary campaign. Who could have believed that the presidency wasn't the Dems for the asking in 2008... but HRC's could prove that wrong.
March 6, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Limousine Liberals for Obama? I have given a few hundred dolalrs over the course of the campaign and drive a 1997 Corolla, work for a non-profit and will be paying off my graduate school debt till I retire.
If that seems too anecdotal, recall that more than 90% of Obama's online donations were for $100 or less and that more than 50% of his online donations were for $25 or less. Yes, that reamaining 10% consisted of some relatively large donors, but because of campaign finance reform, they max out somewhere around 2K. It is a fact that Obama has a much larger base of supporters and that HRC has been historically been more dependent upon the so called "limousine liberals" that you decry and maxed out on their contributions to her months ago. Hence, the need for illegal 527's to bail out HRC. Don't worry though, the FEC won't dole out any fines until 2010.
March 6, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Think of it this way - it's party-building at the local level. Campaigns are paying staff and opening offices in places that haven't seen much from the Democratic party in a long while. Dean changed that to some extent, but this is an intense though short-lived grassroots party-building exercise. Oh, and Obama's doing more of this and better.
March 6, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is about 2 million/day! I think the biggest in history. He beat the old record set by him last moth of 36 million(?).
March 6, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary has a strength that cannot be denied. Obama is timid and unsure. He can't take any pressure. He ran out of that press conference Monday like he stole something. He could not believe his buddies, the media, had the nerve to bring up Rezko, and he didn't have the nerve to answer them. He can't run out of the room everytime his feelings get hurt as president. I want a strong president. Hillary has been cursed out, and called every name in the book for over 15yrs. The media, the republicans, and Obama and Edwards were attacking her relentlessly in unison for months. She has gotten back up everytime. I admire her for that. It has not been easy for this woman. He has had a cakewalk until last week, and he failed miserably.
March 6, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Bret. Your blind ignorance makes me smile.
Thanks for the pick-me-up!
March 6, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're right Bret. I can't believe I didn't see it before. I am ashamed of myself for thinking that Hillary was just exploiting the fact that she was a women to gain power by playing the victim card, even when it wasn't realistically believable, since New Hampshire. At least you have set things straight. Can we count on you to make some more insightfull posts here?
March 6, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
April, May, June is along time away.....
I am so looking forward to hearing more about Antoin "Tony" Rezko trail
And don't forget that pennsylvania only allows democrates to vote in the primary and that the african-american population is not that big and pennsylvania is home to many of the same people in ohio:):):) I hope she pulls off a huge victory like john mccain did in vermont.
March 6, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
You hang on to your hope.
I'll stick with the numbers.
March 6, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nevermind. I've posted a link to that several times here and you refuse to acknowledge reality.
March 6, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I about Hsu. Remind me, did Granholm and Vilsack return the money Hsu raised for them at Clinton's direction?
March 6, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know what I'm hoping? (in contrast to Hillary08?) That the whole "vetting" of Barack Obama that the Clintonistas were so excited about comes back to haunt them, big time.
It's pretty hilarious, to me, that a Clinton is talking about "vetting" anyone.
March 6, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
just as it was hillarious (sad) that in a Kerry - Bush election it was Kerry's millitary record under attack. It is Rove strategy #1. Pre-empt your weekness so that when legitamate attacks come your way, they look like a "no you did it worse response". It also helps keep your oponent from bringing up a subject if you attack them on that ground first (whether or not it makes sense). The truth of the attack does not matter, so the winner is the one who is willing to attack with no remorse or conscience (ie. Bush). Hopefully this will not always be the case. The only way to stop it is to take the two things it relies on out of the equation, an intelectually lazy media and an uninformed and uninterested public.
March 6, 2008 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the closed primary plays to Obama since Republicans are unable to switch sides and vote for Clinton as they did in Texas and Ohio.
March 6, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary Clinton '08.
Do you really believe that all of Michigan and Florida's delegates will be seated based upon January's sham elections in which all of the candidates pledged not to campaign and only HRC's name was on the ballot in Michigan? (Most likely there will be some sort of re-vote, in which I expect HRC to win both, but by no where near the same ratio as before. Funny, how much harder it will be for HRC when Obama's name actually appears on the ballot and there is a real campaign).
And do you really think barring some crazy unforseen scandal that Obama is going to lose North Carolina and Oregon? Have you ever been to North Carolina or Oregon? Those states are up to their eyelids with Obama's core constituencies.
And finally, do you really think for a moment that Obama would lose the critical "big states" of California or New York in November against McSame?
If yes, I either truly feel sorry for you or think that your posts are a wonderful satire of a HRC supporter.
In the end, I will conceed that if HRC has more pledged delegates OR more popular votes than she will have a strong moral claim to the support of the supers?
Do you have the intellectual honesty to pledge the same if the situation is reversed and Obama continues to have the pledge delegate AND popular vote lead?
March 6, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Finally,,,,,,,,, NPR just reported Obama wins Texas,,, by 3 to 5 delegates.
March 6, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama HAS won more "big states" than Hillary:
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/obama_cant_win_the_big_states.php
And actually, I disagree that Hillary "won" Texas. Obama will win more delegates from Texas than Hillary.
Remember the rules: The one with the most Delegates wins!
March 6, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
thanks, hootowl! Good to see it's official: Obama wins Texas...
That big enough for you Hillary?!?
March 6, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillary is so tough then why does she ignore so many states and only claims to campaign in states where she has a huge lead weeks before the vote. And what's with the constant whining and victimization claims? Don't confuse tough with narcissistic. They are different, you know.
March 6, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
HillaryClinton'08 has "conservative troll" written all over him.
Anyone know how the candidates have done in fundraising since Tuesday?
March 6, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I sort of disagree. I think HillaryClinton'08 happens to be an enthusiastic and young supporter of HRC.
March 6, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ditto. I also think that HillaryClinton08 is a woman, although I do not know why I think that. Just my impression.
March 6, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Outspent Clinton 2 to 1 you say? Don't forget to include the $800,000 that the illegal 527 group spent for her on TV ads.
March 6, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
All those union dollars should be counted as expenditure from the Hillary camp as well.
March 6, 2008 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a little confused by your use of "should" here.
Do you mean in the sense "likely were" included in the Clinton figures, or rather that they "should have been but weren't" included?
I seriously doubt they were included in Clinton's figures since one of the main advantages of a 527 organization is to remain independent of campaign finance restrictions. Beside the obvious fact that it would diminish their spin of being outspent so much.
March 6, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama won Texas.
You know, they called it the Texas Two Step For a reason. In spite of negative campaigning, inspite of Rush Limbaugh telling Republicans to vote for hillary, in spite of her 20 point lead two weeks before, Obama held her to less than 5 points in the primary. Step One.
I just got off the phone with my sister who lives in College Station, she reports the many conversations she has had with people who took advantage of early voting weeks before March 4th to vote for Hillary. They were so turned off by her negative campaigning that they made a point of attending the caucus so they could switch their support to Obama. They are still counting the caucus votes. But apparently with 44% reporting, Barack is winning 56% - 44%. Step Two.
It is looking very good for Obama. He is poised to win Texas. And that would put them at 2-2 for March 4th. I also think that super delegates are not stupid. They are waiting to see how Texas turns out before making decisions. Final results will be reported tomorrow.
The news cycle going forward is going to be how Obama has raised a record breaking amount of money from a record breaking number of small donors, then we will move on to how the MSM called Texas for Clinton prematurely, and finish up with some more Obama victories in Wyoming and Mississippi. By this time next week, we will be back on track.
And who knows, maybe we can convince some of the new shows to report the truth of the Canadian scandal as well and about Clinton's Rezko connections. But that would just be icing on a very tasty cake.
March 6, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
And looking at demographics, Hillary totally dominated the racist vote in OH. Something to be proud of!
March 6, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dare you go there? So you call white people voting for Hillary to be racists but black people voting for Obama as having ethinic pride? LMAO on ignorant dude like you.
March 6, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, and HillaryClinton 08 - have someone who knows how to read share this with you:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/119010
March 6, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
No need to be nasty.
March 6, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
That could take 15 years!
March 6, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would like to give a shout-out to Greg DeLassus and everyone who writes thoughtful comments while keeping an eye on the big picture.
Passionate supports for Obama and Clinton should temper their trash-talking and save some passion for the election in November.
March 6, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's a witch.
March 6, 2008 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whatever it costs the taxpayers in Michigan and Florida to re-do their primaries – whether it’s $18 million or $25 million or even $30 million – would almost certainly be money well spent for their states. That’s because those states potentially stand to gain a lot more from having another round of what could be critical presidential primaries.
The Democratic Party stripped Florida and Michigan of their delegates because they moved up the date of their primaries in violation of party rules. If Michigan and Florida have primaries in June after the last scheduled Puerto Rico Democratic caucuses on June 7, and neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama yet has the needed number of convention delegates, those two states will become the center of the political universe.
Think about how many millions of dollars will be pumped into the Michigan and Florida economies. The two campaigns alone will spend millions in political advertising. Other outside political interest groups will pump in millions more in commercials. The hotels, restaurants and other related industries in the states will be in high demand.
Both of those states will also gain an enormous amount of publicity, not only in the United States but around the world. It would be a bonanza for their respective tourism industries. Just think about the coming economic gain for Pennsylvania which holds its primary on April 22. This is one of the best things to happen to that state in a long time.
Remember — those are key factors why both Iowa and New Hampshire are always so diligent in preventing other states from usurping their first-in-the-nation status for the presidential contests. People there make a lot of money from their caucuses and primary.
Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean says the national party can’t afford to foot the bill for another round of primaries, and that the states should pay for a re-do of the votes. (Normally, states pay for primaries; political parties pay for caucuses.) Politicians in Florida and Michigan say they don’t have the cash. That, however, may be a shortsighted stance.
One can make a very strong case that two more potentially-decisive primaries – with hundreds of delegates at stake — would not only determine the Democratic presidential nominee, but would in effect become a significant economic stimulus package for both of those states. It would be an amazing cap to an already amazing political season.
– CNN Anchor Wolf Blitzer
March 6, 2008 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have thought about this too.... the influx of money into those states with a new primary contest. In fact, I considered that such was perhaps one reason last summer that those state parties tried to jump the agreed upon calendar.
The more important jump-the-calendar reason, to my thinking, might have been to try use the campaign season to wrest control of the DNC back to the DLC beltway contingent.......the ones who have been less than happy with Dean's 50 state party building strategy, which allows grass-roots folks to challenge the beltway established Dems.
I think it is worth remembering that the Clintons are fully tied to the DLC group. And it is worth remembering that, in Florida, it was a state Democrat legislator who introduced the bill to do an early primary and that every state Democrat except one voted in favor of it. Likewise, in Michigan, it is Governor Granholm and Senator Debbie Stabenow [sp?] who are aligned Hillary, not to mention that they inexplicably received Hsu money in 2006.
March 6, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
HRC has said she won't accept a revote. She wants the original votes and nothing else.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/03/06/exclusive-interview-clinton-looks-ahead-to-mississippi.html
March 6, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love that BHO has picked up the extra cash, I sent a few bucks his way myself and I hope he uses it wisely.
There are plenty of reasons to support Obama over Clinton and one of the biggest is this:
Starting in 1980 we had two terms of GHWBush as vice president and another term at president. Then we had two terms of Clinton followed by another two terms of GWBush.
Bush, Bush, Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush
Two families, 28 years. It is time for a change.
ObamaMarch 6, 2008 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
It must be nice to have such a simple mind!
March 6, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is nice...
thanks.
March 6, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am so proud of him. It was quite exciting watching the counter head up to 1 million donors. But 385 thousand NEW donors is sure to make some people stop and think about just what this reflects. Sure, it would be really great to know data about the provenance of those donors. But just the number of individuals is really quite amazing.
Think about the disappointment of those 385,000 people if the supers do something slimy...
I'm proud to be one of them, too.
March 6, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I dont see how she will win MI when Detriot alone is 82.70% black and Jesse won it 55%
Im sure Obama can do better than Jesse
March 6, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama makes an analogy between modern politics and sports in his book, "The Audacity of Hope." This is so smart that I find myself thinking about it a lot...for better or worse.
Seriously, some of the above comments read a bit like Giants vs Patriots bashing except that it's NOT a game and we're ALL ON THE SAME SIDE! I think when Obama made the analogy he was thinking the animosity would remain mostly Republican vs. Democrat, though, not Dem v. Dem.
Admittedly, after crying on Super Bowl Sunday, I had to give major props to the Giants for some good football. I'll give the same props (and then some!) to HRC if she wins.
Speaking of sports, if you think $55 million is a lot of money "wasted," or could be spent on charity or whatever...it boils down to much less than admission to a Red Sox game for the average donating family, I'd bet. Just sayin'.
And giving money to Hillary or Obama is probably a better investment in the future and our country than hot dogs at a Red Sox game.
I plan to spend my $$ on both, BTW. ;O)
March 6, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remarkable – not the Obama Machine’s cash haul. Like Mr. Barnum says – “There’s a sucker born every minute.” And Obama seems to have at least 1 million of these poor souls totally fooled.
What’s truly remarkable is this guy out spent Hillary 2-1 and still had his clock cleaned in Ohio and lost Texas and Rhode Island as well. Now that’s remarkable. Go Hills!
March 6, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, enough suckers to elect someone President. I bet Clinton wishes she knew that many suckers.
And Obama won Texas.
March 6, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Superdelegates care about staying super. That means they'll support the candidate with the best chance of winning, and look for a rationale that'll make it possible for them to do so.
BHO consistently outpolls HRC against McCain. BHO is outraising HRC by staggering amounts. BHO looks more likely to win red states. BHO's message is part of what is driving record turnout in primaries. BHO will have more pledged delegates and more of the popular vote.
When frankly0 says pledged delegates don't matter if we end up with a brokered convention, that's nonsense. If the Democratic party picks a candidate who has fewer pledged delegates, less of the popular vote, less ability to win in November, and frankly less appeal, then Oxy Limbaugh and his ilk will be mighty happy.
Gave another $60 to BHO Wednesday, plan to keep on doing it.
March 6, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Make it 385,001 new donors. Limousine liberals? Thanks for that comment, Rush.
The nastiness of the Clinton campaign has convinced me that I'm donating to Obama. The DNC isn't going to see my money until I'm convinced it's going to put it to good use. If Hillary (and the DNC) thinks the best way to beat the Republicans is to emulate them, count me out.
March 6, 2008 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just gave $25 for Obama. I've never donated to any campaign in my life but felt it was due time. I'm really impressed with how he pulls together communities and is rebuilding the party from the ground up. Town by town, state by state.
March 6, 2008 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everytime the Clinton Campaign spews a new lie or smear we make a new donation to Obama. The ways things are going, my spouse and I will soon be maxed out.
March 6, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
We'll see how many of the Obamaphiles in the MSM follow up on this one. There were at least a thousand stories about the Hillary campaign buying donuts and coffee for volunteers. Where are all the stories about how the Obama cash is being spent? Could it be more of that good-ol-boy media bias against a woman with superior qualifications having the gall to run for president against the MSM's newest pretty-boy empty suit? I think so.
Go Hillary, the democratic insurgent candidate!
March 6, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
The MSM dutifully followed all of Clinton's negative lines of argument before Tuesday (and on Tuesday).
The MSM fell all over itself to prove it isn't "unfair", by following some pretty thin stories about Obama. So please quit complaining about bias now - it's silly.
I'm sorry your favored candidate receives less support. It must be because less people like her.
March 6, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Those stories you refer to was when her campaign was broke. The MSM started looking at where all the money went. Now that she has money again, the stories have stopped.
Why is it Clinton supporters, like republicans, have to spin every little thing into something negative? Does she not have enough good qualities to talk about? I'm beginning to think even her supporters believe the only good thing about her is she isn't Obama.
March 6, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
BBpdx,
You misunderstand -- I'm not complaining about it; I'm citing facts. With the limited attention span of the clowns in the MSM, one has to stay on these guys 24/7. Heck, every time Obama tanks these guys come rushing in to prop him up, and after colossal loses in OH and TX, they're doing it again.
It's the media bias that fuels the Hillary insurgency -- real working democrats see it. Don't you?
March 6, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Heck, every time Obama tanks these guys come rushing in to prop him up..."
Obama has been in the lead since Iowa. He hasn't tanked. He is the front runner with a lead in the popular vote and delegates since the first vote. He is even getting more delegates than Clinton out of Texas. He is the front runner.
But still, in no possible view of reality is Clinton an "insurgent". She is as establishment as it gets.
March 6, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Colossial loss in Ohio and Texas .. you mean the one that cost him lesss than 10 delegates? I would hate to see how you would have categorized Hillary's last two months.
Don't worry ... the Clinton's have found new friends in the media. Bill even went on Rush Limbaugh's show. Why not? Rush has never done anything to Bill. It's not like he ever personally made fun of his teenage daughters attractiveness or anything.
March 6, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
GMFORD,
Thank you. It is certainly a good thing to me that she is not Obama. By the way, are you one of those republican supporters of Obama that he's always droning on about? Speaking of republican supporters, I'm expecting Obama to announce an endorsement from a family of Bigfoots living in the woods of Pacific NW. You must be a republican -- only a republican would ask "Does she not have enough good qualities to talk about?"
Hello! The democratic nomination is not a personality contest. Hillary was fighting for democrats and democratic issues when Obama was spending his days smoking a lot of dope and going by the name of "Barry". You've got to be kidding me Hillary Clinton vs. the pretty-boy empty suit formerly known as Barry --- you must be a republican.
March 6, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
mikey500 - Texas was a colossal loss for Obama? Yes - sadly for Hillary her "victory" in Texas is exactly as meaningful as Al Gore's "victory" in the popular vote in 2000.
November is about the electoral college, primary season is about delegates. We can argue whether or not that should be the case, but that's the way it is and the smart one plays to win the game they're in.
I want the guy in charge to understand what game he's in. I don't have time for the whiner.
March 6, 2008 8:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
BBpdx,
Yeah -- "tank" as in can't win the big one -- "tank" as in can't put Hillary away in the big blue states -- "tank" as in outspent Hillary 2-1 in OH and lost by 10 points.
The delgate count? The last bastion of a loser --"Haw Haw Ha Haw Haw -- I'm still leading in the delgate count because I ran up big wins in states I'll never win in the general and lost the big states that a democrat must win in the general -- I'm still a pretty-boy empty suit but Axelrod beats Penn..."
Can't wait til PA.
Go Hills!
March 6, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gregwardo,
I love you. Please remember to visit this site and ring in when the superdelegates nominate Hillary for just the reasons you cited here. When all your fellow Obamaphiles are crying hysterically into their mochalattes and pulling out their really bad hair extensions, you just tell them that's the way it is in the USA -- it's not the pretty-boy empty suit with more delegates because he ran up big wins in red states no democrat will ever win in the general (even against John McCain) who wins --- it's the best qualified candidate who can carry the big states that the democrats can’t win without.
You are brilliant -- "We can argue whether or not that should be the case, but that's the way it is and the smart one plays to win the game they're in."
Finally a rational Obamaphile. Thank You.
March 6, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Am I the only one in this country that thinks campaign spending is getting way out of hand? People are losing their homes, groceries have skyrocketed along with gas and we are supporting the political equivalent of a fashion runway. This is obscene.
March 6, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Mikey I love you too :)
I prefer plain old drip coffee with a healthy splash of non-dairy creamer.
If Hillary has more pledged delegates, more of the popular vote, raises more money, and gets mroe people to the polls then she'll deserve the nomination. As it stands, none of those things are yet true and none are likely to happen. It's cool you dig your candidate - but I think you might be engaging in ad hominem attacks that aren't helping your argument. I don't speak Latin though so I can't say for sure.
If Hillary gets more delegates, mroe popular vote, polls better against McCain, raises more cash and gets more people excited she'll deserve the nomination and I'll vote for her. So far it looks very likely that none of that will happen.
You gots mucho passion which is cool, but we're kinda all on the same team here I think, I just prefer Obama.
March 6, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama, this is really no way to run a political movement...
March 6, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary Clinton is a monster. She must have her daughter:
Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”
– Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.
March 6, 2008 10:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mikey500 - I love ya back, but even our deep mutual admiration can't change the facts:
Obama has-
1. A delegate lead that will be nearly impossible to reverse.
2. A popluar vote lead since day one that is unlikely to be reversed.
3. A whole lot more money (grassroots support as opposed to The Machine)coming in.
4. Consistently better poll numbers against McCain.
5. A campaign that has inspired people in a way we haven't seen in a generation.
If you're point is that all of the above will change then I disagree pretty vigorously. If you're point is that HRC will or should get the nomination anyway then I am concerned for the future of the Democratic party.
Also, I prefer regular old drip coffee with some non-dairy creamer. Plus I think you may be engaging in ad hominem attacks. I don't speak Latin so I don't know for sure, but I think that kinda thing is generally frowned upon.
luvya mean it.
March 7, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
and by "you're", I of course mean "your".
You'll have to forgive me, English is not my second language :)
March 7, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink