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New Hillary Campaign Video Seeks To Revive Samantha Power Controversy

One thing this contest has brought us is the advent of the attack video as official campaign statement, and the Hillary campaign is out with a new one today that seeks to revive the controversy over Samantha Power.

The vid shows footage of Obama saying we need a clear and unambiguous plan for exiting Iraq, and juxtaposes it with vid of the now-infamous interview Power gave to the BBC in which she seemed to suggest that Obama might not follow an Iraq plan announced during the campaign and that it might prove merely a "best case scenario."...

Given that this is a weeks-old story, the timing of its release is pretty obvious: The Hillary camp is hoping to use it to overshadow Obama's big Iraq speech today.


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And you dutifully post this as if you're "reporting news."

Guys, what is happening to this site?

"She was also involved in helping her husband win congressional approval of the North American Free Trade Agreement, a deal she now criticizes and says she would try to change.Her schedule for Nov. 10, 1993, shows her speaking at a NAFTA briefing closed to the media, with 120 people expected to attend."

http://www.clintonlibrary.gov/hrcschedules.html

Doesn't that contradict her claim about not supporting NAFTA in the White House?

Webster definition of monster: A person, typically a child, who is rude or badly behaved. She is badly behaved. She is trying to subvert the system and steal the super delegates. It is a legitimate thing to call her at this point. She was a person to admire, she is now a person lacking all respect.

She is therefore, a Monster.

"subvert the system"? "steal the superdelegates"?

What planet are you on? The superdelegates are just as much of the system as are the undemocratic caucus delegates. There's no subversion here, there are simply rules. Both Hillary and Barack are doing their best to bend them in their direction.

Let me make sure I understand this:
caucus deleagates are worth less because they're an undemocratic attempt to make sure enthusiastic partisans can win the primary.

superdelegates are worth more because they're an undemocratic attempt to make sure enthusiastic partisans can win the primary.

Do I have that straight?

Hmm...that's an interesting thing to make up. Show me where I said that, please. I was saying that caucus delegates are as worthy as superdelegates. That the two go hand in hand, and you can't have one without the other.

Therefore, winning superdelegates is no more a subversion of the system than winning caucus delegates.

You got it mostly right. You forgot about the pledged delegates - those in big states that are located on or near the coast - count more than pledged delegates in fly over country.

Oh, and states that have a lot of blacks or almost no blacks at all don't count. Big states with lots of Hispanics count more, but we're not sure how much more just yet.

Planet I am HRC, therefore, I am all, Obama is nothing, ignore the populace, I deserve to be the nominee due to my name and hateful ads.

Sorry, but I haven't seen Barack try to change the rules (like including Florida & Michigan and/or revoting in those states). That's been Hillary's thing; and she will use whatever it takes---lies, outright lies, and open deceit to try to get elected.

Yes, she IS a monster.

Greg:

Funny enough he addressed this very "non-troversy" in the speech. I'm sure there's video of it available (I think Halperin has piece up on his website). Or at a minimum, you could post the full speech (or parts of it). Or something to water-down the image of you being a conduit for the Clinton disinformation machine.

Just because a campaign forwards you crap, doesn't mean you have to post it without a balanced picture--we can go directly to the campaign websites for that.

Here's the excerpt where he references Clinton's criticism:

Let me be clear: ending this war is not going to be easy. There will be dangers involved. We will have to make tactical adjustments, listening to our commanders on the ground, to ensure that our interests in a stable Iraq are met, and to make sure that our troops are secure. Senator Clinton has tried to use my position to score political points, suggesting that I am somehow less committed to ending the war. She makes this argument despite the fact that she has taken the same position in the past. So ask yourself: who do you trust to end a war – someone who opposed the war from the beginning, or someone who started opposing it when they started preparing a run for President?

Ah, Hillary. Desperation becomes her.

Is this HillaryClinton.com or TPM? Because I sure am confused nowadays.

Look, I don't mind the fact that Dkos and MyDD are split over thier candidates, but I expect this place to be a bit more neutral. And yet every day it feels more and more like HillaryHub. All I want from this place is some evenhandedness - is that too much to ask? If so, I'll go somewhere else.

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Patagonia, you're absolutely right. And count me as someone who has NEVER accused a site of pro-Hillary or pro-Obama bias. I always felt like accusations of bias were intellectually lazy.

But something is going on in this site, it has taken on a decidedly different tone as of late. The selective quoting of polls, the posting of meaningless slam YouTubes like this, the pronouncements of "a loss in X state would be devastating for Obama" when it's mathematically impossible for Clinton to win...

Something definitely uncool is afoot at TPM - which for a long time has been my go-to source for election news.

Ditto. Front page still has good non-election stories, but the front page election coverage is.. less than desirable.

The proper name is HRC Election Central, where everything Hillary is BIG!!! NEWS!!! and everything Obama is understated.

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This is counter productive for Hillary to be REPEATING to voters. Anyone with a bit of common sense KNOWS that neither she nor Obama knows where things will be standing when they take office in Jan of 2009. By that time Iran or Syria or Turkey could have invaded Iraq and we could have a full scale WWIII on our hands.

To imply that SHE (Hillary) would GUARANTEE that she will remove troops is not only naive - it's plain STUPID.

American's are much smarter than she gives them credit for.

Coonsey, right. I mean, the last thing we want is a president who looks at all the information and puts thought into his actions!

I think that's the point - she's stated her position very clearly from the outset, saying she couldn't guarantee when they'd be out.
I agree it isn't necessarily the best ad though.

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[Americans] are much smarter than she gives them credit for.

Henry Mencken would disagree:

No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.

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Yes she was. Of course we don't find this out till AFTER the OHIO and TEXAS primaries.

What ELSE will we hear only AFTER Pennsylvania's primary?

Guys, please stop with the bias stuff. Greg is reporting spin and tactics, not endorsing them. If he said, "New AWESOME campaign video..."

anneeliz

Don't go putting ideas into Greg's mind

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Thank you. Speaking as an Obama supporter, let me say that if you don't want to hear about what's going on in the campaign, or only want to hear about it if it's accompanied by commentary about how evil the Clinton campaign is, don't read a site called "Election Central."

Greg's description included "attack video" and "Given that this is a weeks-old story, the timing of its release is pretty obvious..", so it's not exactly a flattering post.

Personally, I like knowing what we're up against, even if it's annoying. If you think anything but cheerleading is bias, stick with barackobama.com.

First Politico. Now TPM. Hard selling soft HRC points. Way to go (....towards MyDD).

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This is the Hillary campaign's official response to Obama's speech today. Posting it is no different from posting a statement from the campaign. It is news, and this isn't changed by the fact that some people find its contents questionable.

Where's the post of the Rasmussen tracking poll that shows an Obama lead of 5 points over Clinton?

But don't you guys, you know, vet the news?

For example, if Bush says a big old lie about how we much give telecoms immunity in order to save lives... you call them on that shit.

So, when the Clinton campaign (or Obama, for that matter) uses BS attack ads, doesn't TPM have a duty to look beyond the press release?

TYPO - "must" give

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No it's not their official response to Obama's speech today. This is their official response:

http://thepage.time.com/clinton-camps-response-to-obamas-iraq-speech/

An official response is something that is sent to reporters so they can include a response quote.

What you posted is a YouTube that is negative online "viral" advertising. It is not their campaign's official response.

There is a difference.

I agree with you completely das2003, and I'm not one to complain about a perceived bias.

This is NOT an official response. This IS video ad directly off of Hillary Clinton's youtube profile. It's a bit of campaign snark that they obviously hope will go viral in an attempt to discredit Obama. That's fine, but there is no reason for TPM to report this as an "official response". It's insulting to us as readers to attempt to go that route.

It's interesting that it wasn't highlighted in the thread itself as an "official response". But when questioned, it is now official.

Honest question, Greg. Who have you been talking to that would elevate this youtube video in your eyes to an "official response"?

indeed. you got suckered, Mr. Sargent.

Greg,

I agree with you. There is nothing wrong with you reporting this, and you did have an earlier thread that reported on Senator Obama's Iraq speech. That strikes me as fair coverage on both sides of the issue.

Fair enough. Speaking for myself, my point was that Obama's speech already addressed this point. Nevermind, I'll just post it:

Let me be clear: ending this war is not going to be easy. There will be dangers involved. We will have to make tactical adjustments, listening to our commanders on the ground, to ensure that our interests in a stable Iraq are met, and to make sure that our troops are secure. Senator Clinton has tried to use my position to score political points, suggesting that I am somehow less committed to ending the war. She makes this argument despite the fact that she has taken the same position in the past. So ask yourself: who do you trust to end a war – someone who opposed the war from the beginning, or someone who started opposing it when they started preparing a run for President?


This is ugly. The timing of it, just a day after Obama's 'racist granny" speech, makes her look petty.

If they really want to revive the controversy, they can play this:

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=64614

And use the "C is for Clinton" jingle...

Since Hillary seems to value unwavering devotion to ones plans without any regards to reality or changing circumstances, shouldn't she still be supporting the war in Iraq.

Excellent point KenM1. She is spinning herself so fast, no wonder we get idiotic, incoherent, contradictory responses - which of course Greg will faithfully report as news .. or as spin.. or whatever.

KenM1. I please guilty to "plagiarism" charge and posted your excellent point in Ben's blog. It had go viral, sorry man. (But, I did give the credit to you.. you know, in case, try to all HRC on me)

oops. my, my - lacking hand-to-mind co-ordination.

KenM1. I plead guilty to "plagiarism" charge and have posted your excellent point in Ben's blog. It had go viral, sorry man. (But, I did give the credit to you.. you know, in case, you try to go all HRC on me)

BTW, is there anyway, I can redflag my own post ?

Greg Sargent, you are worthless.

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I want ALL the information I can get from any and all credible sources. This is news to me...this video...not Hillary's accusation.

Would the person that said Hillary said she, "couldn't GUARANTEE she would withdraw the troops" -- please post the link to this statement?

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4482242&page=1

Hillary Clinton spent the night in the White House on the day her husband had oral sex with Monica Lewinsky, and may have actually been there when it happened, according to records of her schedule released today by the National Archives.


We knew this was coming .....

This wont hurt her if anything if people start attacking her on that it will only help by making her more of a victim.

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I really despise abc "news." They are as bad as fox entertainment. CNN is only marginally, by a sliver, better than the two. WTF is up with the "news" media. It really is pathetic.

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I haven't clicked on the link, but is it terribly surprising that Hillary Clinton spent a particular night in the White House?? She, you know, lived there.

Oy yoy yoy. Well, I'm sure the media will ignore this and focus on the issues.

Let's not even go there folks.

I disagree with Hillary's political style and her campaign's tactics. However...

As a fervent Obama supporter, I ADAMANTLY denounce any attempts to besmirch Hillary in regards to the Lewinsky scandal.

I think supporters of Hillary and Obama alike should write to voice our DISGUST that they would post a story like that without ANY newsworthy information. It's salacious and demeaning to a fellow Democrat for no other reason than to hurt her and her chances.

Don't get me wrong, I want Obama to beat her FAIRLY. But for ABC to attack her for something her husband did.. that had nothing to do with her.. that's crossing a line that needn't and shouldn't be crossed.

I am outraged that they would pull such a nasty stunt.

I am also outraged that they play the Rev. Wright clip in a continuous loop.

Yet McCain gets a free pass.

Hillary and Obama supporters, we NEED to see that the MSM is trying to separate us, and force-feed Grumpy McSame on us.

Hillary supporters, I disagree with your candidate, but this DEMOCRAT's got your back on this one.

This is swill.

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Here here!

This crap is old news. I'm an Obama supporter, and I'm tired of the crap that ABC News thinks needs posting. This is OLD.

Stop bringing up the 90s, please.


I agree completely. I think it's way over the line to associate Hillary with the oral sex her husband received from an intern while she was in the building. There is nothing to be gained from reminding the country about President Clinton's semen sprayed all over the dress of a young woman who was not his wife. And there is CERTAINLY nothing to be gained from reminding the country that a current presidential candidate was the wife of the president who received oral sex and sprayed semen all over the dress of a young intern who was not his wife.

There is also nothing to be gained from reminding the country that the president lied about it and was impeached for it, and that it caused the country and the party great embarrassment.

The sooner we stop talking about the presidential candidate's president husband's semen and his sexual trysts with a woman who is not his wife, the better off we will all be.

Because that president has learned his lesson and at no time since has he sprayed his semen all over the dresses of any other women who are not his wife...

...as far as we know.

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Zing!

I mean, as far as I know....

no use reminding people that this behavior helped elect George W. Bush, one of the biggest idiots in the history of American politics, over Al Gore, one of the greatest politicians and public servants of our time, either. details about cigars, ejaculations, rimming, abuse of power and the like are certainly not going to come up in a general election! no! how could the right wing do such a thing? if this were going to come up, wouldn't her opponents bring it up in the primary? the only way it wouldn't is if she were running against someone with class and tact, and what are the chances of that?

Part of me is mad enough at Wolfson, Penn, et al that your post is hilarious.

The other part, the Democrat in me, is upset when either candidate gets attacked by the MSM while McSame gets a free ride.

Gramps can even get it straight who we're fighting in Iraq and who is supporting them, yet we're here yelling at one another about sermons and semen.

Both of which are in the past.

(Yes, Hillary fans, Obama didn't disown Wright)
(Yes, Obama fans, Hillary didn't disown Bill)

This is retardulous.

The GOP is the REAL enemy.

Not really sure what to make of that. Her preferred spin on it would be it "Oh, look at my scars, what a fighter I am, etc."

I think when she makes vague references to her "past troubles" (like at the end of the Texas debate), she's implying that her ability to weather her husband's numerous infidelities over all those years suggests the kind of fortitude or resolve that a President needs.

"Given that this is a weeks-old story, the timing of its release is pretty obvious: The Hillary camp is hoping to use it to overshadow Obama's big Iraq speech today."

The big Iraq speech which you are not talking about.

Even in your one post on it, no link .

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I just don't see this as that effective. Who's it supposed to sway?

The clip of Powers calling the immediate withdrawal part the "best case scenario" seems pretty reasonable. One that the Clinton campaign would probably agree with (not publicly, of course).

If it's supposed to sway antiwar voters, that dog won't hunt, thanks to Clinton's own voting record.

If it's supposed to sway military families, the "best case scenario" seems pretty reasonable.

So the only point of sending it out must be to influence the media description of Obama's Iraq speech.

As a campaign ad, I think it sucks, btw.

Err...Power is no longer with Obama's campaign, making this ad absolutely moot. One would think Hillary knows this, you know, since she demanded she be fired and all.

But it attacks Obama so it's newsworthy here at TPM.

Great point. I eagerly await HRC Election Central's report on what Geraldine Ferraro is up to these days.

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Memories......Oh how I wish they'd go away~~~~~~
By Hillary Clinton


Stories like this about Monica are EXACTLY why I don't think Americans want to go thru another campaign discussing these EVENTS, nor do they want to risk it happening again.

NOW the fun begins!

Watch Hillary strike back. Obama's bozo speech made his situation worse. Just look at the comments in newspapers all over the country.

People are disgusted with him. He is so OVER!

That he did not have the "JUDGMENT" to distance himself with Mr. Wrong - is his problem. When he or any of you loonatics on this site have the nerve to bring up Hillary's war vote - when he has the audacity to claim good judgment - this disaster will start up again. Fuel for Hillary, fuel for the Repugs.

Watch the SuperDelagates jump ship like the rats that they are. Watch Hillary as she scoops them up. HaHaHa! LOL!

He handed the gun to Hillary and said "just shoot me now - I'm an idiot."

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Dream~~~Dream, Dream, Dream~~~~~~~~~All I ever do is Dream, Dream, Dream~~~~~~~~~

I think Hillary's the one that will be seeing her polls fall off the clift REAL SOON!

Once Americans start hearing the Monica story and seeing Bill repeatedly kissing her in the crowd, hearing about the cigars and blue stained dress.

Don't get me wrong folks - I did NOT think this was an impeachable offense -- it was just disgusting as heck and very difficult to DEFEND.

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I don't care if Powers still worked for Obama -- what she SAID is true. Nobody knows what will be going on in Jan of 2009, nor do they have ALL the facts till they are ELECTED as President. To 'gaurantee' a removal of troops is ridiculous.

Here's something Ben Smith posted last week on this nontroversy:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Defending_Samantha_Power.html

Thank you Publicus Hussein. Exactly the post I was looking for to post here for coonsey.

You can how each one of her, overpaid, "media people" handle "hot potatoes" from Wapo's Dobbs. Pathetic.

Watch the entire video folks. Pay close attention to it all and you will catch the Clinton Camp actually posting the Big Lie. They write in big print: "Obama's advisers tell a different story" They do not provide any proof to back up that claim. They do not even list any current Obama advisers. Keep in mind, the Clinton Camp are the ones who wrote "advisers" plural, and "tell a different story". Samantha Power is not a current adviser to Senator Obama, so she is not in a position to still "tell" any story about what Senator Obama is currently thinking. Now, since the Clinton Camp says "advisers tell", someone need to ask them for the names and words of those advisers. Right Greg?

Aside from that, the clip of Samantha Power does not in any way contradict what Senator Obama said. She actually confirmed that what he said today was his intention based on his best judgment of how things now look. Of course you can not etch that in stone, because what may happen in Iraq between now and when he is sworn in may force any rational candidate to alter their forward looking plans.

A case in point: What if the Iraqi government orders the USA to withdraw over a hundred thousand soldiers from their country by May of 2009. They are a sovereign nation, and we would have to get out at a much faster draw down rate that Senator Obama or Senator Clinton, not to mention Mr. Stay a hundred years, have currently envisioned. All forward looking commitments are based on projections on how the situation is likely to be in Iraq next January. Senator Clinton needs to stop with this crap, because I doubt if she has a crystal ball tucked into her pantsuit.

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Yup. It's your basic Republican-style attempt to portray any admission of thoughtfulness and rational response to changing events as flip-flopping.

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Can I ask a somewhat unrelated question?

How does TPMElectionCentral decide which polls to put in the poll box (upper right)?

Is it possible to get a short explanation from either Eric or Greg?

Greg:

Have you realized that USA Today Gallup poll shows Obama with a lead of 7 points? The poll dates are the same as the Gallup tracking poll which is cited below.

USA Today/Gallup (03/14-03/16)
Obama 49, Hillary 42 (Obama +7)

"Even if there's a new upsurge of violence in Iraq she will stick to that plan, or is that just the best case scenario?" he asked.

Clinton aides Lee Feinstein, Neera Tanden, and Howard Wolfson argued back, with Wolfson finally cutting in to give a one-word answer to whether Clinton would bring the troops home no matter what: "Yes."

When Obama says he'll start removing brigades immediately, I believe him. Hillary - not so much. Besides, all Obama has to say in response is "Power is no longer with my campaign."

And it's a terrible ad anyway IMHO. At least there was some point to the 3AM ad. This one sounds like some child going "But but but SHE said..." and resonates sour grapes.

it's pretty disgusting when a candidate not only hustles a progressive foreign policy adviser as vital as Sam Power off the stage over a single ad hominem, but then takes the clip of this same adviser TALKING PERFECT SENSE and attempts to make a case against their opponent with it.

of course the plans on Iraq from a year ago or now will have changed, even dramatically, by the time there is a new President ready to enact them. OF COURSE that is the case; Iraq is a highly dynamic place. Power was being honest, and assuming her audience could keep up; Clinton is exacerbating and preying on their ignorance. all the while, of course, being hypocritical in that she herself, as well as her foreign policy advisers, believe exactly what Power is saying here, unless they're totally insane.

i'm tired of a President who treats Americans as idiot children, playing to the insecurities of the dumbest and least informed and not challenging anyone to understand the issues at hand. i'm tired of a President who tells us to sit back and shut up while they do all the important stuff. we've had a President like this for 8 years, and we've seen the results.

Isn't Lanny Davis associated with the Clinton campaign?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lanny-davis/two-questions-for-senator_b_92386.html

And before Obama supporters start going crazy on this one, I say don't. This is the Clinton campaign's attempt to keep the Wright situation going. It only gets legs if we start pointing fingers. Just make note of it and move on, otherwise you are playing into their hands.

Duly noted.

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Lanny Davis is one of those inside the beltway Dems that need to be moved out of the power structure. He's a total Clinton toady, and has been for years--and he says so, in the piece (well, he says he's a Clinton supporter).

That being said, these are questions that Obama should be prepared to answer. But what Lanny fails to point out (surprise! surprise! the hypocrisy alert starts to zing!!!) is that McCain can have a similar question posed to him, and secondly, McCain is going to ask about Hillary and the Palestinians.

Lanny Davis is starting to sound a lot like that toady on the other (Faux-R teevee) side - Dick Morris.

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Yes, he is.

Not only is he a total Clinton toady he's also a liar (is that a requirement?). One of his greatest hits on CNN a week ago or so was that Rezco purchased Obama's house for him.

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Greg, you're missing one of the big points of this video, at least in Hillaryland: Obama says: "in clear, unambiguous, uncertain terms...", when he should have said "no uncertain" terms.

Clinton is trying to attack him for a verbal slip.

Such a vile, petty shrew.

There he goes again....

LOL

Shut up, Clinton! No one cares anymore!

Posters above have pointed out that Obama has addressed this point already in a speech, but, frankly, Power addressed it pretty well in the original interview, from which this completely misleading clip is taken.

From Ben Smith:

"He will, of course, not rely on some plan that he’s crafted as a presidential candidate or a U.S. Senator," she said at one point in the interview.

Power downplayed Obama's commitment to quick withdrawal from Iraq on Hard Talk, a program that often exceeds any of the U.S. talk shows in the rigor of its grillings. She was challenged on Obama's Iraq plan, as it appears on his website, which says that Obama "will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months."

"What he’s actually said, after meting with the generals and meeting with intelligence professionals, is that you – at best case scenario – will be able to withdraw one to two combat brigades each month. That’s what they’re telling him. He will revisit it when he becomes president," Power says.

The host, Stephen Sackur, challenged her:"So what the American public thinks is a commitment to get combat forces out in 16 months isn't a commitment isn't it?"

"You can’t make a commitment in March 2008 about what circumstances will be like in January of 2009," she said. "He will, of course, not rely on some plan that he’s crafted as a presidential candidate or a U.S. Senator. He will rely upon a plan – an operational plan – that he pulls together in consultation with people who are on the ground to whom he doesn’t have daily access now, as a result of not being the president. So to think – it would be the height of ideology to sort of say, 'Well, I said it, therefore I’m going to impose it on whatever reality greets me.'"

"It’s a best-case scenario," she said again.

. . . and Greg, "now-infamous interview"? Come on. It's only infamous to those who haven't actually watched it in its entirety.

I WANT TO FIX HILLARY CLINTON FOR STAYING WITH BILL WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE DIVORCED HIM OVER:
1. HIS ANTIMASTURBATION
2. HIS CHEATING ADULTERY
ALSO IM AGAINST HER NOT LISTENING TO ME ABOUT VOTING AGAINST THE ANTI POKER BILL (PHONE CALLS, LETTERS) AND RECEIVING FUNDING FROM HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY OVERCHARGING AND AGE DISCRIMINATING. I ALSO BELIEVE LIKE JOE LIEBERMAN THAT BILL CLINTON SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED AFTER ILLEGALLY CHEATING ON HIS WIFE.

Frank,

You forget to yell at that whippersnapper Clinton boy; GET OFF MY LAWN!

"I have a plan to end the war. Trust me"

Who said that:
A) Barack Obama
B) Richard Nixon

"Trust me". Famous last words.

Obama-The Great Deceiver

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And who said it depends on what the definition of is is?

1) Slick willie clinton or

2) The twofer, h. clinton.

Does it really matter? Neither of them have any honesty or integrity anyway.

This is a lot more offensive to me than Rev. Wright. Scary and appalling. Despite Mother Jones article in 2007, this has NEVER been discussed in MSM. Very scary read.

Barbara Ehrenreich: Hillary's Nasty Pastorate

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbara-ehrenreich/hillarys-nasty-pastorate_b_92361.html

There's a reason why Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama's former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she's a lot more vulnerable than Obama.

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Well, that's a frightening read. What is wrong with our country?

Democrats may be queasy about bringing up Monica.

But the GOP will not be!!!

Agreed. That is not the way I want Obama to go to win, but remember, one candidate is getting the "vetting" from a fellow party member (and doing quite well in the process) while the other while the other has been free to slime away with very little questioning of her own very spotty past history.

One thing we can say for sure:
Obama's plan to end the war is at least as good as the plan of either of the other two candidates.

Clinton has lost. The race is over. Party elders need to step in.

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There are rules for the allocation of caucus delegates and pledged delegates. How do you "win" a superdelegate?

Is this HillaryClinton.com or TPM? Because I sure am confused nowadays.

Look, I don't mind the fact that Dkos and MyDD are split over thier candidates, but I expect this place to be a bit more neutral.

Greg, ignore this because you have attempted to report in an unbiased fashion.

These sort of ignorant statements, in my opinion, are the result of others at TPM tilting too much toward Obama. Thus, Obama fans developed the habit of flocking to TPM and getting carried away talking to each other and congratulating each other on the success of their candidate.

Even Josh Marshall got carried away so that he, amazingly, faulted the Clinton campaign for the Rev. Wright story hitting so hard so soon. Amazing.

This line of attack is patently ridiculous. Clinton has already said that once in office -- with full access to all information -- she'll request a withdrawal plan. Do you expect she'd stick with her current plan if confronted with hard data that suggests otherwise?

YouTube? Hills ought to be running this on TV in PA, NC, KY, IN, and especially OR.

Who can believe this Obama guy? -- he's still talking about his judgment after the Rev. Wright lapse in ... you guessed it... Judgment.

Irreparably damaged -- Obama.

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Note the absence of an "I'm Hillary Clinton and I approved this Message" tag on the video. This won't be a paid advertisement anywhere without that, it's just for the Internets, just red meat for Clinton supporters to keep their energy up. Ideally, press outlets, online and otherwise, will pick it up and run with it to get some exposure for this nonsense.

Samantha Power resigned from the campaign, in part for calling Hillary a monster, but more for this counterproductive interview. I'm not sure how her statements a few weeks ago are remotely relevant.

Greg, there was no "Samantha Power controversy." Ms. Power made a remark that the Clinton campaign objected to, and they demanded that she be fired. Ms. Power apologized for the remark. The Clinton campaign did not accept the apology and continued to demand that Ms. Power be fired. Ms. Power resigned. It all played out in less than a day, if I remember correctly, and Ms. Power has not worked for the Obama campaign since then. Conflict. Resolution.

A less lazy interpretation of the facts might be that the Clinton campaign has created a new attack video based on an insignificant personal slight by an Obama staffer that was resolved several weeks ago.

Someone called Hillary Clinton a "monster," off the record. Wow --- now that's a controversy! Expect all hell to break loose if anyone suggests that Senator Clinton has "cooties."

Meanwhile, the Michael-Moore-is-fat controversy rages on.

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