MSNBC Reporter: Obama Campaign Didn't Push Story That Hillary Was Behind Passport Files Breach
I noted below that I was going to try to establish whether the Obama campaign really was peddling the story that Camp Hillary was somehow behind the security breach surrounding Obama's passport files.
After checking into it, I can say that it appears that there's no evidence that this actually happened.
Today on a conference call, a top Hillary adviser attacked the Obama campaign, pointing to the fact that it was alleged on MSNBC this morning that the Obama camp was pushing the tale. This claim appears to have been based on this quote from Morning Joe...
JOE SCARBOROUGH: It's hard to say. It's probably not going to be that big of a story except for the fact that it really helps Barack Obama get some bad news off the front pages of the paper going to the weekend. I think what you're going to see, and already it seems the Obama camp is trying to push the narrative that the supervisor in this episode was a Clinton appointee. They are going to try to point their fingers towards Clinton and make it political.
This appeared to be a reference to a story that MSNBC's David Shuster did yesterday reporting that the former chief of consular affairs received an ambassadorship from Bill Clinton.
But Shuster, who is MSNBC's lead reporter on the passport files story, indicates to me that any reporting suggesting that the Obama campaign pushed this story to him is false. Shuster emails me this:
All of my reporting on the passport story has been based soley on State department and Department of Justice resources. I have received no tips, ledes, contacts, guidance, spin, or anything else from any political campaign.The story I broke last night about the former chief of consular affairs, Maureen Harty, having received an ambassadorship from Bill Clinton in 1997, was obtained by (1) researching state department web sites and other data bases for the names of current and former consular affairs chiefs, (2) finding a state department biography for Maureen Harty, (3) confirming her ambassadorship via a Clinton foundation web site that had the 1997 press release.
Presuming that Scarborough (who didn't return a call) was basing his assertion on the work done by MSNBC's lead reporter on this story, which seems quite plausible, it appears that Scarborough had this wrong.















Appreciate you running this down. Any chance you all will run with the Washington Post's fact check of Clinton's Bosnia trip? She received 4 pinnochios(sp)!
March 21, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
the Clinton campaign falsely accuses the Obama campaign of doing something malicious...
surely not.
March 21, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lead it for idiot Joe Scarborough to tells lies.
He's trying to downplay the connections the Clintons have with Jeremiah Wright
Hillary & Jeremiah
http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/did-hillary-sit-next-to-rev-wright-at.html
Bill & Jeremiah
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Jeremiah_Wright_was_White_House_g%20uest.html
Joe who has been sling mud each morning on Morning Joe against Obama, tries to dismiss this news.
March 21, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Scarborough has been trying for some time to slime Obama, in a subtle way. Instead of saying Wright is a demon and Obama is in bed with him, he constantly claims that voters will not be convinced by Obama's speech. He also belittles the speech as an attempt to distract voters. He's full of sly conjectures.
Well, polls already show a majority believe Obama. And the race speech has been highly praised as a noble effort whether or not Obama becomes president.
March 21, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think he has been "subtle" at all. I think he has been very overt about his dislike of Obama. I think he is tolerant of Clinton, loves McCain and despises Obama. Do not be fooled by the fake compliments that are immediately contradicted by whatever follows.
I quit watching his show Wednesday and feel so much better.
Boycott Morning Joe.
March 21, 2008 11:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
It would also appear that Phil Singer had it wrong.
March 21, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, David Shuster. Heh heh heh.
March 21, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe has been doing his best Fox News imitation all week. I caught some of this morning and he was pushing every piece of news and spinning it against Obama. His poor co-host, Mika brzenski was left to chime in only when Joe would take time to draw a breath. I did like Tiki Barber!
He probably realizes this thing is over and he needs to soften up Obama for the general.
MSNBC sure is a schizophrenic network with their competing hosts' political allies.
March 21, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice logo, The Band is one of my favorites.
March 21, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for noticing. My favorite album ever. I bet Joe Scarborough has never heard it.
I like to change my logo every now and again. This is the latest.
March 21, 2008 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously. How could the Clinton campaign run with some idle speculation by Mornin' Joe?
Just makes them look like they're grasping at straws.
Oh.
Tough day for the Clinton campaign.
BTW, MSNBC has been flogging a comment by Bill Clinton at a campaign stop all afternoon long. Apparently, Bill said if Hill and St. John Straight Talkin' Maverick McCain are the candidates, the election will be between two people who really love their country. He added that people would then be able to really choose on the issues, rather than "all this other stuff that seems to come up".
MSNBC has been flogging this.
I, personally, think it's hilarious that Bill Clinton thinks "other stuff" won't come up if Hillary is the candidate. Talk about a fairy tale!
March 21, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Scarborough had this wrong?
How about Clinton communications director Phil Singer(you know, the guy responsible for vigorously emailing you and various other media outlets Clinton's perspective on the news) had this wrong, based solely off of unconfirmed and unsourced speculation from Joe Scarborough, a former GOP elected official?
And Obama is running an amateur campaign?
Hillary, for the good of everyone involved, please end this now.
March 21, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
took the words right outta my mouth...
March 21, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
"...it appears that Scarborough had the background of this wrong."
Gee, who could have predicted that?
You mean there is no substance to the bullshit that GOP shill Joe "I have a dead girl in my office" Scarborough tosses to get the Democrats to eat their own?
I'm shocked.. shocked I tell you!
Greg, I can't believe you seriously entertain 9/10ths of the crap that the Clinton's and the GOP's try and throw at Obama, as having merit.
Being hard-hitting and fact-based in critiquing candidates is a good thing, but that has not been what MOST of the nonsense being tossed around for months now is about. You really need to consider the source on most of this drivel. Joe Scarborough and you think it might have been a legitimate question? Get real.
March 21, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
So let me get this right. David Shuster found out about the Clinton connection by DOING HIS JOB!! How novel a concept, an investigative reporter actually doing some investigative reporting.
March 21, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has the kitchen sink run dry?
Certainly nothing of value coming out of the spigot anymore.
March 21, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
The spigot is working as it always has:
1) The red handle is hot lies
2) The blue handle is cold lies
March 21, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice.
March 21, 2008 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tiki Barber was fantastic on Morning Joe this a.m.!! I had no idea who he was (okay - so I'm a baseball fan, okay?) but his input was very interesting ... and needed! The Tiki/Mika Show?
Does someone want to investigate this? I haven't had time but I smell a rat. ------ Joe S. said at one point that the Geraldine Farraro quote was read by him to someone from the Obama campaign (Susan Rice, perhaps?) and "I believe that was the first time they'd heard it." ---- Later, however, Joe himself, Geraldine herself, and many other in the media, on MSNBC and elsewhere, have simply taken it as a given that the Obama campaign found the quote in the Daily Breeze and brought it to everyone's attention as a 'gotcha' at the Clinton campaign.
My gut tells me they didn't. In fact I believe it was what Joe described, maybe even Joe himself: a media person who ran across this 'hot item' and then started asking the Obama people to comment on it. I'm not even saying it was malicious on the part of the whoever in the press did it - just going after a good story. But if it was the Obama campaign, then it would have been malicious or at least 'Clintonian'. Certainly not a 'new kind of politics.' I'd love to see the record cleared but haven't had time to do the research.
As to Joe, I feel sort of sorry for him. Obviously he, and others, have been given marching orders to stop 'favoring' Obama (thank you, SNL), and he's a Republican and would really rather have his party face Clinton in the fall .... but he LIKES Barack. It seems to pop out at the oddest times and he said so pretty seriously on the new David Gregory show earlier this week.
March 21, 2008 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
The story was actually broken on DKos by a random blogger.
March 21, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg,
Thanks for this update. Joe Scarborough will surely return your call soon; please don't forget to bring us up to speed then.
March 21, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
The biggest issue is that the timeline for peeking at Obama's passport seems to dovetail with the release of the 'traditional garb' photo . . . AND a simple glance askance at Clinton's campaign leaves even the most die-hard of Clinton supporters wincing because this sort of bull-hockey is just the cup of tea of the Clinton camp.
In short, Obama does not have to fan the fire's of Schuster's observation . . . AND Clinton is even more unhappy that she did not get Shuster fired.
March 21, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Abosolutely anyone who knows the Clintons and has watched Hillary Rove-style campaign knows her operatives may well be behind the Obama file security breach. Obama's campaign does not need to encourage people to suspect the obvious. It is more than enough to learn that a Clinton loyalist was in charge and supressed the information about the breach and allowed three breaches to occur, that Hillary suddenly reveals a breach of her own file from last year (come on!), and then the Clinton campaign attacks Obama in a effort to divert attention from Hillary.
The Clintons will do anything and everything to win, and anything and everything is becoming alarming. Why does the Democratic leadership not intervene. Will they wait until Hillary assures a Republican victory?
March 21, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Some old Clinton shit.
Throw something outlandish and let the guy deny it.
Joe Scum should be demoted like they did it with Fucker Carlson.
March 21, 2008 6:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
SCARBOROUGH'S HEAD ON A PIKE!!
March 21, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
OT: Gov. Bill Richardson over at CNN touches on how and why the Clinton campaign lost his endorsement and why it is losing:
March 21, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe has been consistently off the mark on issues and substances. Sometimes I wonder if he just gets up in the morning and spews out some bad breath and passes it around as journalism.
After Obama's race speech, he recited a remark made by his "progressive" friend that Obama has "thrown his grandmother under the truck".
And after some platitudes on how the speech was "historic", he keeps on going and going about how Obama could throw his grandmother under the truck and compare her to Dr. Wright. Speaking "objectively", he wonders if that would hurt his chance among voters in November.
I'm so sick of this Joe Sa@t that I switched off the TV.
March 21, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Obama campaign may not have been behind the story, but Josh Marshall himself was beginning to get a little grassy knoll on us last night. A few more nuggets like that and he'll drive Keith Olbermann to do another Special Comment--"Hillary: The New Gordon Liddy!"
March 21, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's folks always seem to be on point. HRC's folks seem to be so embroiled in chaos, egotism and ignorance its shocking. If HRC can somehow can win is this the leadership we can look forward to? I have never seen a candidate with a team that is worse than a Mondale election effort.
March 21, 2008 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
When this race is over, some big names in the liberal blogosphere won't have a leg to stand on when reporting on the rightwing lies in the MSM as they've peddled shameless stories from Penn and Co. without any verification.
March 21, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
More bad news for NAFTA:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/from-the-fact-c.html
No wonder she came out with the papers AFTER Ohio.
March 21, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shh . . . don't tell Pennsylvania
March 21, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I would eat this up like cake."
-- GOP hatchetman Rick Wilson, who did the 2002 Cleland-Osama morph ads,
talking about what the GOP will do with Obama-Wright connection,
"It’s harder for people to say it’s taken out of context because these are Wright’s own words.
You let people draw their own conclusions. You don’t have to say that he’s unpatriotic; you don’t
question his patriotism. Because I guaran-damn-tee you that, with that footage, you don’t have to."
-- Chris LaCivita, GOP hatchetman who helped craft the Swift Boat commercials against Kerry"
March 21, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see you're not even pretending to not be a Republican any more.
March 21, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let us give a warm farewell to Hillary until then shove your junk in your republic behind.
This fear card shit is getting really old and tiring.
March 21, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
"It’s harder for people to say it’s taken out of context because these are Wright’s own words.
You let people draw their own conclusions. You don’t have to say that he’s unpatriotic; you don’t
question his patriotism. Because I guaran-damn-tee you that, with that footage, you don’t have to."
Maybe there are fewer knee-jerk racists in the USA than Wilson thinks. Time will tell.
March 22, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
This morning on Diane Reihm, Tony Blankley, former Wash Times op-ed editor, tried to float the idea that Clinton was behind the passport breach, when he said Hillary's campaign, seemingly out of nowhere, started making a big deal that Obama hadn't really ever left the country except for a trip to Africa.
And that pulling dossiers on opponents was SOP for the Clintons, since they'd supposedly used the FBI against him when Bill was in office.
Two grains of salt, but it's what he said.
March 21, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, first Hillary says that she's qualified to be commander in chief and McCain's qualified, but implies that Obama's not. Now, Bill says that Hillary loves her country and McCain loves her country, but implies that Obama doesn't.
Do either of them really belong to the Democratic Party? Or do they belong to the Clinton Party? It sure sounds like they're going to vote for McCain if Obama is nominated. They're treading awfully close to the land of Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller.
March 21, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Filegate" began on June 5, 1996, when Republican Pennsylvania Congressman William Clinger, chair of the House Committee on Government Reform and Oversight, announced that the committee had found during their ongoing "Travelgate" investigations, that FBI background reports on Travelgate figure Billy Dale had been delivered to the White House.[8] The following day, the White House delivered to the committee hundreds of other such files related to White House employees of the Reagan Administration and George H. W. Bush Administration.[8] Initial White House explanations for what had happened varied,[9] and Republicans made various charges, including that the file transfer was motivated by a desire to slander Dale and other White House Travel Office officials and thereby justify their dismissal.[10] At first Attorney General Janet Reno asked the FBI to look into it;[10] FBI Director Louis Freeh acknowledged that both the FBI and especially the White House had committed "egregious violations of privacy"[3][10] (in some cases the background reports contained information about extramarital affairs, trangressions with the law, and medical issues).[11] On June 21 Reno decided it was a conflict of interest for the U.S. Department of Justice to further investigate the matter, and thus recommended that it be folded into the overall umbrella of the Whitewater investigations, under charge of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr.[8][6]
On June 26, 1996, Clinger's Government Reform and Oversight Committee held hearings on the matter.[12] Livingstone, who announced his resignation at the start of his testimony, and his assistant, Anthony Marceca, insisted during the committee's hearings that the mishandled files were a result of a bureaucratic mixup and that no improper motivations were behind it.[12] They said that when the George H. W. Bush administrative staff left the White House in January 1993, they had taken all the files of the Office of Personnel Security with them for use in the Bush Library, as they were permitted to do under law. The OPS staff were trying to rebuild these records to include those of permanent White House employees who remained to work in the Clinton administration; Marceca, a civilian investigator for the Army, had been hired for this task.[3] In doing so, they received an outdated list from the Secret Service of White House employees, which included many names who were no longer employees. This list was then given to the FBI and the personnel background files returned as a result.[12] Lisa Wetzl, another assistant, testified that she discovered the mistake in mid-1994 and destroyed the request list.[12]
Also called to testify were former White House counsel Bernard Nussbaum and former associate counsel William Kennedy III.[12] Livingstone, Nussbaum, and Kennedy all offered apologies to those whose files had been obtained.[10] On September 24, 1996 the Government Reform and Oversight Committee approved, on party lines, an interim report on the affair, blasting the Clinton Administration for a "cavalier approach" towards sensitive security procedures and saving that further investigation was necessary to determine if the events surrounding the files handling were "a blunder, the result of colossal incompetence, or whether they are established to be more serious or even criminal."[13][9] The Committee does not seem to have ever issued a final report.[14]
The Senate Judiciary Committee was also involved in investigating the matter, holding hearings beginning June 29, 1996,[15] and focussing on allegations that White House was engaged in a "dirty tricks" operation reminiscient of the Nixon administration.[15] Looking into accusations that senior White House officials or First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton may have inappropriately perused the files, in October 1996 Republican committee chair Orrin Hatch requested that the FBI do a fingerprint analysis of them.[16] On November 3, 1996, the FBI informed the committee that no fingerprints of either the First Lady or any other named senior official were on the files.[16]
A secondary question of the Filegate controversy revolved around what the Office of Personnel Security was, who had authorized the hiring of Livingstone, and whether he was qualified for the job. The Office was not responsible for actual White House security, as that was the charge of the United States Secret Service,[3] nor did it perform background checks on potential White House employees, a task done by the FBI,[17] nor did it keep the regular personnel files of employees, which were held in a different office within the White House.[9] Rather, its role was to keep track of who was employed by the White House, make sure their security clearances were up to date, and give security briefings to new hires.[18] Nevertheless, Livingstone seemed to lack qualifications for even this position; he had worked on a number of Democratic Party campaigns and transitions,[17] including being an advance man for the Clinton-Gore 1992 campaign,[3] and his only prior job in the "security" field was that of a local bar bouncer[4] at a Washington, D.C., night club. (At the congressional hearings, Livingstone objected to "false and unfair caricatures of who I am. [...] I have worked hard for little or no pay in political campaigns for candidates who I felt would make this country a better place to live."[17]) Clinton opponents stated that Livingstone had the highest level of security clearances in the U.S. government.[19] White House officials could not explain why Livingstone was hired, nor who had hired him.[12]
An FBI document suggested that Livingstone had been given his position because First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton was a friend of Livingstone's mother and recommended him. Hillary Clinton stated that while she was once photographed with the mother in a large group, she did not know her,[20] was questioned by the Independent Counsel in January 1998,[11] and in 1999 gave a sworn statement that she had nothing to do with Livingstone's hiring.[7] Livingstone also stated under oath there was no truth to the supposed hiring relationship.[7] Hillary Clinton would later refer to the whole affair as a "pseudoscandal".[21]
On November 19, 1998, Independent Counsel Starr testified before the House Judiciary Committee in connection with the Impeachment of Bill Clinton over charges related to the Lewinsky scandal. Here, for the first time, Starr exonerated both President Clinton and the First Lady of complicity in the FBI files matter, saying "while there are outstanding issues that we are attempting to resolve with respect to one individual [we] found no evidence that anyone higher [than Livingstone or Marceca] was in any way involved in ordering the files from the FBI. Second, we have found no evidence that information contained in the files of former officials was used for an improper purpose."[22] (Starr also chose this occasion to clear President Clinton in the Travelgate matter, and to say that he had not committed impeachable wrongdoing in the Whitewater matter; Democrats on the committee immediately criticized Starr for withholding all these findings until after the 1998 Congressional elections.[23])
In March 2000, Independent Counsel Robert Ray, Starr's successor, issued the office's final report on the matter. Ray determined that there was no credible evidence of any criminal activity by any individual in the matter.[24] It attributed the improper collection of the files by Marceca due to his having an outdated Secret Service list of White House passes, as Marceca had originally claimed.[24] It stated that even though Marceca's statements were sometimes "contradictory and misleading",[8] they were "sufficiently transparent"[8] and there was insufficient evidence to prove that Anthony Marceca had made false statements to Congress during his testimony.[7] The report ascribed the FBI files matter to "a failure of process at many levels," saying that the Secret Service had provided critically erroneous data,[8] and that this was compounded by the White House's informal process of requesting sensitive information by "inexperienced, untrained, and unsupervised personnel with backgrounds as political operatives."[8]
Based on an investigation that included the prior fingerprint analysis,[24] Ray's report further stated "there was no substantial and credible evidence that any senior White House official, or First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, was involved in seeking confidential Federal Bureau of Investigation background reports of former White House staff from prior administrations of President Bush and President Reagan."[7]
Ray's report also concluded that there was no credible evidence that Bernard Nussbaum testified falsely about not having discussed Livingstone's hiring with the First Lady, and found as well that there was no personal relationship between the First Lady and Livingstone that had formed the basis for his hiring.[7]
Separately from the Independent Counsel investigation, Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group, engaged in long-running litigation over the White House personnel file controversy.[25] Judicial Watch's Cara Leslie Alexander et al. vs. Federal Bureau of Investigation et al. class action lawsuit, filed on behalf of several members of the Reagan and George H. W. Bush Administrations,[26] alleged that Livingstone, along with Anthony Marceca and William Kennedy, obtained the files and then rifled through them. As late as January 2000 they were filing affidavits in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia under Judge Royce C. Lamberth related to the case.[27] In their $90 million lawsuit,[28] they claimed that the First Lady did, despite her denials, know Livingstone — indeed, that Livingstone had bragged to associates he was very close to both the president and his wife, and that Clinton had personally hired him for the security job.[28] (White House defenders pointed out that Livingstone had a long history of exaggerating his importance and connections.[3]) Judicial Watch also said they had five sources who claimed Livingstone had been hired by and worked under the First Lady,[28] and also discovered some photographs of Livingstone in the vicinity of the First Lady (but not talking with him).[19] In December 2002 Judicial Watch obtained a ruling from Judge Lamberth that recently uncovered White House e-mails be searched for possible evidence in the lawsuit.[29], and Judicial Watch founder Larry Klayman and Clintons antagonist suprême said that, "Hillary Clinton was the mastermind of Filegate. She will not escape justice."[29] Klayman and Judicial Watch had a severe falling out in 2003,[30] however; as of June 2007, nothing further appears to have happened in the lawsuit other than a court document filed in April 2004.[26]
March 21, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I watched Morning Joe and David Axelrod hinted that there may have been some political motive to the leaks.
March 21, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, good thing OBama would never do something like this, like personally peddling the lie that the Clinton campaig gave Drudge the turban photo. And instead of the hate, how about if one of you fools responds with anything that substantiates that story?
March 21, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, Duh. It was Drudge who claimed the photo came from a Clinton staffer.
March 22, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey dilluminati, did you write all of that? I assume you did, since I'm sure you would have had the decency to cite your source. You know, the ones who put in all of those footnotes? Thief.
March 21, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL I just read your posts at your profile.
I bet you loved the endorsement today of Obama by Richardson. I bet he gets huge coverage this Sunday and that time is elapsing for a endorsement to be meaningful.
Did you catch the fact that the Hillary coffers are empty?
March 21, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wiki fair use policy, what part of Wiki don't you get? They don't require no stinking royalties and the authors were volunteers and the content was collaboratively done.
You sound like a Clinton schill in need of sending a much needed campaign contribution to Hillary but more bitter emotionally than foolish with your money.
March 21, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
A "wiki" is just a specific type of a content management system. It does not imply any right to reproduce, and both the authors of the individual pieces and the site as the compiled project retain their copyrights. The Fair Use doctrine allows for using excerpts and requires that the source is referenced and linked to when possible.
This is not to say you "stole" this text, but in almost all cases (unless it is in the Public Domain) some type of attribution is required.
So please always cite your source and link when possible.
Personally I would also appreciate only posting short excerpts and linking for the rest to avoid huge blocks of text.
March 21, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
It simply doesn't matter who pushed the story -- however, I find the late revelation that HRC's file was breached last year by a trainee a little silly. Not even in the same class of breach.
March 21, 2008 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, Obama had a more serious breach???
WTF are you talking about? Maroon.
March 22, 2008 3:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just came out of nowhere Greg! *shrug*
Couldn't have been TPM. Couldn't have been the Obama campaign. Hmmph? Maybe Hillary planted it?
But as Josh said, it really looks like we need to be more candid, it looks like this campaign is over. And, as Josh said, his email inbox is pretty light. I think it's time for Hillary to give up.
/TPM Foot Soldier
March 21, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's the lead reporter? It's not particularly encouraging that he got Maura Harty's name wrong then...
March 21, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
We demand that Hillary apologizes and be fired from the campaign.
March 22, 2008 1:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Call me crazy or uninformed but:
This is from a March 12th Clinton Memo:
"As voters evaluate you as a potential Commander-in-Chief, do you think it's legitimate for people to be concerned that you have traveled to only one NATO country, on a brief stopover trip in 2005, and have never traveled to Latin America?"
Here is the link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/12/clinton-camp-to-obama-yo_n_91156.html
How did the staff know on the 12th of March about Obama's complete international record? Including the very specific "stopover detail" (something you could get from passport records. Does everybody know this stuff? Am I just being delusional by seeing something fishy here. I have been delusional before, so, no worries.
Mike
March 22, 2008 2:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
In 2005, Obama was in the U.S. senate. All of his trips as a Senator are a matter of public record.
March 23, 2008 5:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Obama Campaign Didn't Push Story That Hillary Was Behind Passport Files Breach."
No, but TPM had a "Recommended Reader Post" this morning with that title. Since removed.
March 22, 2008 3:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
"The State Department last night said one of the persons responsible for the inappropriate behavior was employed by an information technology firm headed by one of Mr. Obama’s foreign intelligence advisors."-Washington Times 03/21/2008
March 22, 2008 4:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey dilluminati, you idiot. It doesn't matter if it's required that money change hands or not. You posted a lengthy entry of someone else's writing and gave no credit. That's stealing. You weren't even smart enough to take out the footnotes. Although after seeing that your only response was a completely unrelated swipe at Clinton's finances, I'm not surprised that you don't feel confident in using your own thoughts.
Thief.
And yeah, I'm really concerned about Richardson's endorsement. He'll really deliver that Latino vote. You know, the one he couldn't even deliver for himself?
March 22, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Scarborough needs to join Tucker in the unemployment line.
They are both hacks with no talent, who depend on their political and family connections to retain their jobs.
Now that Tucker's abysmal ratings finally forced MSNBC to drop him like a cold potatoe, they should take a close look at Morning Joe's constant failures, and decide what it is that he brings to the table.
As far as I can see it, Scarborough's another albatross hanging around MSNBC's ratings neck. No offense to CNN or anyone else, but with Gregory, Matthews, Olbermann and Abrams lined up, I can now watch that channel for a whole stretch and not be compelled to turn the channel out of disgust. Now if they would just give Shuster and Maddow a feature spot, that would be a full line-up.
Nora O'Donnell and her fellow cute-girl cheerleaders need to move to Fox, though, Nora's got some serious credibility issues that are getting more obvious the closer we get to the 111th COngress being elected. She's clearly biased against Democrats in general and particular Democrats in excess.
March 22, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone who believes anything written in the Washington Times needs a thorough brain-cleaning.
Moon's agenda is so pernicious, considering his old door-knocking money-beggers and the Scientologists' family fortune raiders are two of the biggest recipients of faith based moneys, is it any wonder they would do whatever they can to maintain the status quo?
ALWAYS consider the source, and always keep in mind there is more than one source "out there" in the MSM that is so completely bought and sold by our worst rogues, you can not read anything they write without a big dose of skepticism to guide you in your study.
March 22, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Chriso;
your comment, "And yeah, I'm really concerned about Richardson's endorsement. He'll really deliver that Latino vote. You know, the one he couldn't even deliver for himself?" is the best example here of hypocrisy. As one of the Clinton cultists, you obviously would have lauded the wonderful Gov. Bill had he endorsed Hillary.
But now he's an impotent hack, because he endorsed Obama.
Tirvializing his endorsement is nothing more or less than an admission of desperation on your part. Seems as if the Hill Cult is having trouble keeping it's brainwashing cycle running.
March 22, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've given up watching Scarborough too. He's just another Rove schooled right winger.
March 22, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
What iis in a passport file ? Application, birth certificate, place/date of birth, hospital, mother and fathers name, ethiniticy.
If Obama is who and what he claims to be, what does he have to worry about?
Can you say "smoke screen"!!!???
March 22, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sir --
It is not the idea of hiding, it is the idea that outside people can access someone records who are under secret service protection. There are a lot of wackos out there, and the fact that "assasinate obama" is one of the highest google searches makes a severe breach in national security.
March 22, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, the "Clinton appointee" line was first pushed by Keith Olberman about 9:40 pm the night before - referencing David Shuster, of course.
As Keith was reporting this Very Super Important Fact, he raised his gargantuan eyebrow so high, I thought it was going to merge with his hairline.
March 22, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I still can't see where passport gate leads to anything but smoke screen. You can find out much more about a person on-line than you can from a passport file.
And i submit that there is more on-line about Obama at this time than any other individual in the world.
March 22, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with all your posters about Joe Scarborough, the failed congressman, failed lawyer. I wrote several letters to MSNBC about him and his bigoted co-hort Pat Buchanan spewing filth and running the Rev. Wright's loop a zillion times. He, Scarborough,is such a bully and never lets his cohost Mika finish a sentence. Of course, nothing is ever done. He really belongs on Faux news.
However, I am as concerned with Rush Limbaugh being held accountable for what I consider voter fraud. Between Hillary lying about Nafta and him asking listeners to change party affliations for "one day" and vote for her, I am convinced that skewed the win in Ohio for her. Obama lost delegates because of this fraud. He should be brought up on charges of voter fraud as should those Republican who changed parties for "one day". Obama finally did win Texas, but he might have won more delegates without this serious fraud. With the states coming up, they will do the same thing if allowed.
Does anyone out there know what happened to those alleged 80 districts in NYC where Obama did not receive one vote. Especially Harlem where, Charlie Rangel the congressman from that district is a Clinton supporter.
I think Hillary should just go Republican and be McCain's vice president nominee since she is such a buddy and since they have all the qualificatiions and are the only patriotic one in the race !! I damn sure don't want her in my party.
March 22, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
You might want to note that the CEO of the firm which conducted the 1st 2 intrusions into BO's file gave HRC a $1000 contribution for his first Dem. contribution ever.
When? within 24 hours of the 2nd event. And what happened right after that. HRC's campaign pushed the fact that BO had only ever been to 1 NATO country. Wonder where they might have found that interesting fact?
March 22, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Obamabots didn't need Schuester to tell them Hillary was behind it. They were all over the web with their accusations before the spittle in Condi Rice's mouth went dry.
March 22, 2008 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know Maura Harty, she's a career diplomat. She received her ambassadorship after a career of service to her country. She's not a political appointee with some outside agenda. Not to mention she retired in February, before the last passport breach.
March 22, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
"your comment, "And yeah, I'm really concerned about Richardson's endorsement. He'll really deliver that Latino vote. You know, the one he couldn't even deliver for himself?" is the best example here of hypocrisy"
This is hilarious, not to mention stupid. So I'm a hypocrite because my comment was in conflict with what you say I would have said? Are you shitting me? If Richardson had endorsed Hillary I would have welcomed it, like any endorsement. But I would hardly have described it as the earthshaking event so many Obama supporters are making it out to be, and I definitely wouldn't have portrayed it as having an effect on the Latino vote. I've argued with people before that Richardson didn't make sense as a potential VP for Hillary, since she didn't need someone to help with the Latino vote.
Richardson got about 1 percent of the vote, so it's just idiotic to claim that his endorsement means something. If it wasn't for the fact that there's no primary for another 30 days this would have received about the same level of attention that Dodd's endorsement did. So until you know what the fuck you're talking about, maybe you should just shut up and stop claiming you can read minds.
March 22, 2008 9:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Probably trying to find about the fact he's really an Arab-American.
March 22, 2008 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
JEPO7-
I agree with you about the Wash. Times.... How's CNN for a better source? Or do we need to wait for it to turn up in a Kos diary before we can abandon our skepticism?
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Chief of firm involved in breach is Obama adviser
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The CEO of a company whose employee is accused of improperly looking at the passport files of presidential candidates is a consultant to the Barack Obama campaign, a source said Saturday.
John O. Brennan, president and CEO of the Analysis Corp., advises the Illinois Democrat on foreign policy and intelligence issues, the source said.
Brennan briefed the media on behalf of the campaign this month.
The executive is a former senior CIA official and former interim director of the National Counterterrorism Center.
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/22/passport.files/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
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Oh, and "billreef" - look here re Brennan:
"He contributed $2,300 to the Obama campaign in January."
So the Pres & CEO of the company snooping into Obama's passport is not only former CIA, but a current Obama for President advisor! Wow! How 'bout them odds!
Yep, sure smells like that big, bad Clinton Machine is behind it to me.
Hillary and Bill probably got to that Obama advisor. They no doubt covertly snuck into his office via the ceiling ducting... then surprised him from behind, drugged and hypnotized him simultaneously, after which they made him order his employees to engage in the Obama passport spying! Ooh - they are too wicked and stealth! And then hypnotized him yet again so he would report the info back to the Clinton camp to use as Oppo research.
Little did the Clinton's know their tactics would, in the end, serve only to take the news focus OFF of the infamous Rev Wright story, and thereby relieve Obama of his most awkward and debilitating moments in his campaign.
Cui bono?
March 23, 2008 2:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Has anyone heard who the unnamed reporter was who contacted the State Department? It's odd that the top dogs at state new nothing about it till the reporter asked them. How did the reporter know about the breach to start with?
March 23, 2008 5:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama want us to unite,if we would tell the truth, his brand of unity has divided the Democratic Party, so much that, McCain is now favored to win the Presidency! Four more years of Bush's policy, How sad!
March 23, 2008 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Scarborough just isn't very intelligent. He's that "same old" dip-stick bully Republican politician that showed up in DC in 1994. The people of FL must be retarted or something - when was the first time they actually did something positive for politics in this country? Scarborough is a clown in a fleece and a narrow-minded butt hole. I do watch the show however because Jackie Meretsky is hot, and she really puts Scarbumhole in his place.
March 23, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink