Mark Penn: Richardson Endorsement Of Obama "Not Significant" Anymore
I got on the Hillary campaign conference call late because of the earlier Obama one, so I didn't hear Mark Penn's surprisingly disparaging take on the Bill Richardson endorsement, but luckily, someone else did:
“The time that he could have been effective has long since passed,” he continued, “I don’t think it is a significant endorsement in this environment.”
It's true that much of the voting in states with heavy Latino populations is behind us (assuming no Florida revote). But that's nonetheless a surprisingly dismissive assessment, given that Richardson is close to the Clintons, served in Bill's cabinet, and is the first major Latino candidate for president. Plus, this kind of endorsement will matter to establishment Dems and super-dels.
Obama spokesperson Bill Burton pounced on the comment, and is urging reporters to ask the Hillary campaign what Penn meant.
Burton emails: "Since I think they consider the coming contests to be of significance and since they also continue to court superdelegates, you are probably as confused as we are."















Its because Richardson is from a small state, everyone knows small states don't matter including super delegates from small states. Duh
March 21, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am just totally guessing here, but something tells me that if Richardson had endorsed Clinton it would have been hugely significant.
March 21, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
And watch...the Clinton campaign will pick up John Edwards' endorsement - a white guy with less political clout than Bill Richardson has in his right thumb - and suddenly it will be the most meaningful political endorsement in modern history.
They will say anything.
March 21, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aaaaand....Bill Richardson doesn't matter. John Edwards, Joe Biden, do you guys want to matter or not matter?
I mean, this guy is so predictable I could host these conference calls and only change ONE million.
March 21, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, you would think that this guy would come up with another word for significant, or he would try a different spin. Will he ever get another job after this train wreck?
March 21, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently it's not just states that don't matter, but governors too! Congratulations to Bill Richardson on achieving the Hillaryworld status of the non-material. Is that like some disembodied state that enables him to levitate and see through walls and such? That'd be so cool.
March 21, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
The states Hillary wins are the only ones that matter, and the endorsements of Hillary the only ones that matter as well.
Or, Mark Penn may just be an idiot.
March 21, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
“What this man has done, Barack Obama, is, he, for the first time I think, as a black leader in America, has come to the American people not as a victim, but rather as a leader."
--Claire McCaskill
Notice the Clinton campaign didn't attack Obama for his surrogate's gaffe. Politics as usual with Obama.
March 21, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS TERRIBLE NEWS FOR OBAMA!!!
The only way it could get worse is if Edwards and Gore endorse him, and all the Super Delegates declare for him. Now that would be
A CATASTROPHE FOR OBAMA!!!
Fortunately, Matthew Weaver has Senator Obama's back, and is doing all in his power to save Senator Obama from such a faith.
March 21, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ahhhhhh. I wanted to be the first to post some "Richardson doesn't matter" snark.
But based on the picture on the TPM page, I do have to ask whether this was really Richarson or whether it was his alter ego from the evil Mirror Universe. (And what do you think Penn is like there--a guy with a conscience and a sense of shame, or so much hugely evil that he's like the villian in a James Bond movie?)
March 21, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do people even listen to Mark Penn anymore? He'll just try to spin everything 100% in Hillary's favor, no matter how ridiculous it sounds. He obviously hasn't learned that you need to make your spin at least somewhat believable. That said, the Obama campaign could probably be doing a little more aggressive spinning rather than worrying so much about the truth.
March 21, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who knew that super delegates were insignificant?
Penn (and by extension the Hillary's campaign) take politically self-serving behavior to new heights, or lows, depending. But it's not surprising. The undertone that I hear in her campaign just gets stronger everyday: if you can't get me elected, you don't matter.
Whether we're talking a political process (like a caucus), an entire state (like Illinois), or a former cabinet member of your husband's administration, who's also a former presidential candidate and current super delegate, if you aren't with her, you aren't important.
March 21, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Penn needs to go away. Seriously.
March 21, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. So darn insignificant that it is, well, significant enough to talk about during one of their vapid conference calls. Nice, Mark. Very nice.
March 21, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Edwards SHOULD turn coat and endorse Hillary -- he will be a hypocrite. He ran his campaign talking about the minorities and poor. He went down to Katrina area to withdraw from his campaign surrounded by black voters. The black voters are currently supporting Obama 4 to 1 -- if Edwards turns around and supports Hillary, he'd be proving that Hillary Promised him something for HIS personal gain....forget the poor minorities.
March 21, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Honestly. For any Obama supporter Penn is the gift that keeps on giving.
March 21, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can't we Dems, just once, not reduce a person to a single demographic? Richardson's importance is not only related to what will or will not happen with Hispanics. He's a governor, for godsakes, of a purple state. He was a presidential candidate. He was a U.N. ambassador. And on and on. I'm so tired of hearing about how the only thing that matters is a single demographic.
March 21, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. Not just a purple state but a western purple state which, if the democrats can turn blue would represent a seismic shift in the electoral map.
March 21, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
This guy is the biggest winner ever.
March 21, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sargent should have been watching instead of wasting his time getting talking points from the Head Shed
The lastest episode of The Last Dog Death Watch was really quite good. I particularly loved the part where, just following his statement of endorsement, Richardson threw his dear friends the Clitons under the bus to the effect
They had their time, now it is time for them to go
For the Democratic party the Clintons exit cannot come swiftly enough - sooner the better
Si se puede!
March 21, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is Bill acting as a mafia thug for his wife. Old story but still juicy given today's Penn's "sage" words
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004179017_apondeadlineclinton12.html
March 21, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, I'm still waiting for you to follow up on Clinton's claim that Obama says they're to blame for Passport-gate...
March 21, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
While the remaining states may have smaller Latino populations, isn't the Clinton campaign making a big deal about Puerto Rico switching to a primary to help her close the popular vote gap? Bill Richardson is Latino but he's Mexican. There is friction between Mexican and Puerto Rican communities in the states, but will that matter to Puerto Rican islanders?
March 21, 2008 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
People are being entirely too hard on Penn. His work for hillary has clearly prepared him for an important new job next year---as a judge on American Idol.
The chance that he would cause them to drop 30 percent in the ratings is exaggerated.
March 21, 2008 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
"His work for hillary has clearly prepared him for an important new job next year"
Seems the same could be said for Greg.
March 21, 2008 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill Richardson doesn't matter.
March 21, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm still wondering why Greg feels every belch out of Penn's fat mouth is worthy of its own post.
March 21, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because he thinks they're funny. And he's right. Penn's daily assults on the intelligence of the press and the American people are, in their own way, as hilarious as Idiotic's pronouncements of excellent news for Hillary.
March 21, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Penn = (enough) rope.
Not sure when exactly there's enough, but sooner or later this guy is going to start turning blue...
March 21, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
March 21, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Awesome.
March 21, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I sould say that I am slightly disappointed.
Shouldn't it have been, "putting down governors of the states that don't matter, is excellent news for hillary"
March 21, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every vote counts. Also, it would be weird if Senator Edwards endorsed Clinton because during the early part of the primary season, himself and Obama had more in common in their approach, their platform etc. And in general they are more similar.
Perhaps it is because Senator Kerry endorsed Obama and there is friction between Kerry and Edwards. He should have conviction though and endorse Obama, regardless of what Kerry has said about him. Kerry didn't loose because of Edwards. The American people know this.
If Edwards turns around and goes for Clinton, I think many people will be surprised.
March 21, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
If someone were to ask me to the most important reason that I do not support Senator Clinton I would respond that she has demonstrated extremely terrible judgment in her irrational devotion to the porcine, sneering Penn.
I simply can't believe that Clinton continues to keep him around.
March 21, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
The real question is why so many people are playing. The answer has more to do with media psychology than with practical politics.
Vanderhei/Allen
Practical Politics: Live by Inevitability, Die by Inevitability
Well I have done my best over these last, long months through thick and thin to impart some practical political learnin to SargentKleefeld.
Regrettably, only Eric passed the course. [xoxo]
Now we can all just sit back and watch the Last Dog's death throes
March 21, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also if Edwards did endorse Clinton I think he would be out-of-step with his supporters, most of whom in my opinion have gone with Obama. (Atleast from people I know.) His supporters would raise a few eyebrows and be dissapointed, I being one of them.
March 21, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Gov. Richardson's endorsement doesn't matter any more, then I guess the endorsement of all of the other undecided superdelegates don't matter anymore either, right? Right? Will they say the same thing about Edwards, and Gore, and Emmanuel, and Pelosi, and all of the other superdelegates who have yet to declare? Unbelievable.
March 21, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Latino vote doesn't matter to the Clintons anymore, see how the Clinton's used them.
March 21, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Annieratna
Edwards will at some point endorse Obama. This became clear just after SuperTuesday. If you'll recall, Clinton paid a visit to Edwards in Chapel Hill. The Clintons were quick to the conference call to spin the trip. Obama was scheduled to visit a day or so later but cancelled. He made the trip, unannounced, a week or so later
Edwards of course has been silent ever since despite tremendous pressure from the Clintons
He's been in Obama's back pocket since February
But don't tell Greg Sargent
We'll just keep that OUR little secret
March 21, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
The only way that Clinton can win is by the super delegates overturning the pledged delegate's vote. The only way that could happen is if Obama becomes unelectable as determined by the polls. Well folks that makes this a national contest again.
Imagine what would happen to Hillary's already minuscule chances if Obama starts to eat into her lead among Hispanics.
Yea that's right Mr Penn, these are not the votes you are looking for.
Honestly, if Hillary had hired a potted plant instead of Penn can you really tell me she would be worst off?
March 21, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why would Richardson endorse Obama unless he knew that he was going to be the nominee, i.e., that the DNC was not going to allow the nomination to be stolen? And if he knows, so does Edwards. Why would Edwards knowingly endorse the sure loser?
March 21, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. Not just a purple state but a western purple state which, if the democrats can turn blue would represent a seismic shift in the electoral map.
March 21, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's taken more money from lobbyists than the other candidates combined.
Edwards last October: "Senator Clinton's road to the middle class takes a major detour right through the deep canyon of corporate lobbyists and the hidden bidding of K Street in Washington," he said. "And history tells us that when that bus stops there, it is the middle class that loses."
If he endorses her his credibility is utterly gone, evaporates completely in a millisecond. He needs to either endorse Obama or publicly state that he will endorse no one prior to the nomination being decided. I supported Edwards, both times, but he's being kinda putzy on this.
March 21, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
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Everyone who has not drank the Obama Koolaid is now really questioning the judgment of a man - a politician - with all the negative connotations that the label “politician” elicits, a politician who would negligently, without thought, enroll his children in a hate preaching church, or with thought, calculatingly do so for political expediency, without care of the price it would cost him and his children; that price being the brutal assault on the new and fresh minds and souls in those young ones who would have otherwise been allowed to grow and flourish in a new and better world - a world free of much of the old prejudices and hatreds of an older generation.
But no, Obama took away that innocence from his children either because of a lack of awareness and negligence in parenting and role modeling, or done in a calculated choice and disregard of them for the sake of political ambition. Either way, you arrive at the same result, that of bad judgment.
Everyone should question Obama on that, supporters and non-supporters alike.
We expect our leaders to exercise better judgment than that. Heck, the average American typically would know better than that, even the typical white people Obama referred to in his latest speech explaining his ill advised comparison between his own grandmother and his pastor.
But if we expect even more from our leaders then can we not, should we not, now question those who knowing of this defect in judgment, still come out in support of him and even endorse him as Bill Richardson did today? And what does that say of Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, a republican who endorsed Obama when he did not know better, who now continues to appear on Obama’s behalf, knowing of this poor judgment?
These politicians are now saying to the American people, we don’t care about that judgment. Our judgment is the same and our judgment says we want this man, this politician to be our leader now, our children’s role model.
When these politicians come up for re-election, we the typical white people as well as people of color who think it unwise to teach our children hate, should not forget those who came out in support of this politician and his judgment.
Rae
March 21, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
i really hope Raek keeps posting. it's hilarious.
March 21, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since WHEN is a politician a role model for our children?
McCain is no role model, unless we want to instill infidelity.
Hillary is no role model, unless we want to instill triangulation and exaggeration.
They're politicians.
We're looking for LEADERS, not super-heroes.
Also, you refer to Obama's hate-filled church. I don't know you, so I may be wrong, but I will assume that you haven't bothered to look further into the claims against Rev. Wright. I assume that you heard what sounded plausible and fit your narrative and ran with it. If this is the case, you'd be wrong.
I refer you to this link that provides one of Rev. Wright's statements that has everyone in an uproar. Unlike the 30 second soundbite, however, it has what he said before and after as well.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/meet-the-white-man-who-_n_92793.html
All of Rev. Wrights controversial sermons are out there on YouTube, available for anyone that wants to see what Rev. Wright REALLY said and the context in which they were said. They might be uncomfortable, and might be different than something one expects from a quiet Sunday School, but viewing them in their entirety was an eye-opener. They're NOT hateful. They're NOT anti-American and they're NOT anti-white. If anything, they're thought-provoking, spiritual and uncomfortable... but nothing as they've been portrayed by the MSM.
Think for yourself, don't let Fox or CNN make up the news for you...
March 21, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
(O.K. - I'll chase you over to this post as well!)
Since you're parsing and cherry-picking, would that you were so concerned about the health and emotional well being of the children of all the candidates as well!
Imagine the judgement of someone who would drag their poor little innocent girl and expose her to sniper fire in Bosnia - "either because of a lack of awareness and negligence in parenting and role modeling, or done in a calculated choice and disregard of them for the sake of political ambition. Either way, you arrive at the same result, that of bad judgment."
"I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."
--Hillary Clinton, speech at George Washington University, March 17, 2008.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/03/hillarys_balkan_adventures_par.html
Lie, lies and propaganda.
Rae, honey, get off the ship.
Your pantsuits' getting wet.
March 21, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Calling Bo Peep:
You lost one of your sheep!
Get her back to the
MyDD pasture!
March 21, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why didn't Richardson endorse Obama prior to Texas, when it might have really made a difference?
Someone tell me, please: what the hell is John Edwards waiting for?
March 21, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Richardson isn't important
It's not like bill clinton spent Superbowl Sunday begging for Richardson's endorsement or anything like that
bill just couldn't find anybody else to watch the game with, that's all
just shut up and drink the fucking Koolaide, I'm Hillary Rodham Clinton, and I endorse this message
March 22, 2008 8:55 AM | Reply | Permalink