Hillary Spokesperson: Obama-Rezko Story Should "Set Off Alarm Bells In Newsrooms Across America"
Hillary advisers continued pushing the press to get tougher on Obama on a conference call with reporters just a few moments ago, urging the media to take a much closer look at the Obama-Rezko story than it has thus far.
To make his case, Hillary spokesperson Phil Singer pointed to this little detail in the Chicago Sun Times today:
Tony Rezko's wife, family members and friends crowded behind him onto a courtroom bench. Spectators spilled into an overflow courtroom. Among them was a staffer from U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign, taking detailed notes.
Singer noted that Obama has a staffer on hand at Rezko's trial, accused Obama of failing to answer questions about his relationship with Rezko, and concluded that the story "should set off alarm bells in newsrooms across America."
It seems clear that Hillary's bash-the-press strategy -- and it is a strategy -- is working by various measures, but it's unclear as yet whether it will have proven too little, too late. We'll find out soon enough.















So where's that tax return, Hillary?
March 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
This issue has already been explored fully by the Chicago newspapers who spent this whole campaign trying to turn this into more than it really is. Hillary is just helping to do the Republicans' work again by making it sound like there's more to do this, just like she made it sound like there was something to the Muslim smear.
March 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Where's the story? If I were Obama, I would have someone there too, just to be able to respond to what's being said there. What's so dramatic about this?
March 4, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. It would be more concerning if they weren't following the trial.
March 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
"too little, too late." Well, no one can say you haven't done your part Greg.
March 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
i think greg is one of the sfew fair bloggers on this site especially..........what about the press conference yesterday where he walked off after 8 questions and reporters yelling that he dodged half the questions .....no MSM report on that .....he cant answer if he dosnt have h9is monitor with him
March 4, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
This despite the fact that Obama hasn't done anything illegal, and there is no proof of anything even underhanded. The real estate thing has been debunked, the helping his company thing has been debunked, it is all bullshit, and Obama has been completely open about his so-called "relationship" with Rezko.
And this is pretty funny coming from someone with more than enough dirt surrounding her, from Norman Hsu to Marc Rich to name just two. And why do you refuse to release your tax returns until after you win the nomination...?
I'm sorry, but fuck you Hillary, you hypocritical lying backstabbing bitch. Go join the Republicans already, I'm tired of you pretending to care about Democrats.
March 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think this is a strategy to draw Obama into a mud fight, where Hillary has the advantage. Not because she has more mud (she doesn't), but because she's better prepared to throw what mud she does have. It's her kind of fight, and she wants him to engage in it.
Hopefully, he'll have the judgment not to.
March 4, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm in total agreement with you Ben. The initial response is to get angry and respond in kind. But I think what Makes Obama unique is the ability to look beyond petty politics. If HRC wants to engage in the same old politics, then power to her. Just like MLK when spoke about peace and non-violent resistence, Obama supporters should attempt to practice a little self discipline as well.
March 4, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm so disillusioned with Hillary right now. If she makes the nomination, I will not vote for her.
March 4, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I tell you, she's treading on very dangerous territory here. Is she blind to the skeletons in her own closet? Is she not aware that people can throw out insinuations and scandalous rumors about her (that have nothing to do with Vince Foster?) Does she really think that the Obama team is going to continue to be kind to her if they are feeling threatened and their backs are up against the wall? Just read this post by John at AmericaBlog - the gloves are going to come off if her campaign persists in this kind of mudslinging:
http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/what-will-republicans-throw-at-hillary.html
Seems to me that there's a treasure trove of stuff to be picked over with regard to the Clintons - some (or all) of it might not be true, but the Obama campaign can throw it out there the way she's doing to see what "sticks". I would like to see him not do this (he's run a fairly clean and above-board campaign so far), but fair is fair. Let's hope that the voters in Ohio and Texas decide this thing tonight and she concedes before she does any more damage.
March 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think you underestimate the power of the "the press has been unfair" theme that the Clinton campaign has successfully managed to ram down the media's throat.
The treasure trove has to get out to be effective, and if the press hesitates for fear of being too onesided, the Clintons win.
March 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
You may be right about that ... but if she keeps sticking the press in bathrooms, they won't stay in her corner for too long! :)
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/4/111232/6027/523/468324
March 4, 2008 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I saw that. Hilarious! And they took it!
Ouch.
March 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pages and pages of controversies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Clinton_administration_controversies
Many of which focus solely on Bill but many of which do not.
March 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seems pretty smart to me. Republicans and the Clintons seem hell bent on making a mountain out of every mole hill. Better to prepared for the unexpected than be caught flat-footed
March 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
And if the groundhog pops out of her hole today and smells even the faintest whiff of victory, it means six more weeks of slimeball attacks.
March 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rezko tourette's syndrome. Does anybody know of a cure? There have been nearly 300 news stories on this non-issue. I'm really tired of it.
By the way, did anyone see the picture of obama's house in chicago? Wow. I would love a comparison to the clintons' mansion. Do a side by side. That picture was worth a thousand words. They should put it on the front page of every newspaper in the country and this primary would have been wrapped up a month ago.
March 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
And, isn't this nice?
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/did_i_say_osama_i_meant_obama.html
Ugh, I'm losing respect for her by the minute.
March 4, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Come talk to me when there's actual evidence that Barack Obama has done anything remotely wrong. And if the Clintons think it's fair to play the game of guilt by association, perhaps the press should be discussing Mr. Hsu, Johnnie Chung, Charlie Trie, Bill Clinton's own disbarment, Marc Rich et al, not to mention Bill's lucrative dealings brokering uranium contracts with third world dictators.
March 4, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
For a cool 130 million!!! Rezko is small potatoes. Gee, I wonder who else has "donated" to the clintons' foundations. I bet it would be very, very interesting information.
March 4, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillary somehow wins this, it will be worse than the McCain's "black baby" campaign waged by Bush.
Seriously, how can the CLINTONS of all people, with their Whitewater scandal, make this Rezco thing an issue?
Yes, Obama has an aid there. It's called "quick response." Obama has not been accused of any wrongdoing with Rezco.
Hopefully, Obama will respond to Clinton soon, because this line of attack is NOT what our country needs to focus on!
March 4, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
An Obama win in Texas will take care of everything.
March 4, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've got the paperwork ready to change my party affiliation from Democrat to Indepedent or Green. I will not be a member of party that could nominate a Rovian candidate like Clinton.
March 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
So Greg......you admit that the Clintons have you crapping yOUR pants to do her dirty work...What a bunch of losers that call themselves the press.
March 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Clintons have brass balls, don't they. They plan on taking Obama down by any means necessary, even when actively hurting themselves. Obama has one scandal - Rezko - and in the case of the land deal, he has stated that it was boneheaded, he gave the money back, but has consistently stated that the public trust was not breached. How many scandals are the Republicans going to cart out against the Clintons? Innumerable. She has not been "vetted." She has not been tested. The shit is going to fly on her in the general. And how many of these scandals has Obama mentioned in this campaign? None. He knows that Dems need to rally around their candidate in the GE in order to win against McCain.
Clinton plays the experience and foreign policy card on Obama. Yet it will turn on her in the general, just as it turned on Mondale in '84. This is just OBVIOUS.
Clinton refuses to reveal her tax returns yet claims Obama is being duplicitous on NAFTA. Clinton claims Obama is all talk and no action yet can't provide any instances of her own in dealing with a crisis. She has less legislative experience than he does.
How does she think this kitchen sink strategy is going to help her? It hurts Obama and it hurts her. I think that is obvious. Why is she doing these things if it is clear that it will turn Dem voters away from her? Because she will tear down Obama at the benefit of the other party. She has become what she hates. She is trying to smear another Dem instead of attacking his positions.
Go away cookie man!
March 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jesus Greg, carry a little more water for Hillary, would ya?
What I'd like to know is when SHE will be subjected to this kind of scrutiny. Because for all her bluster and BS about being vetted, nobody has put the squeeze on her about her tax returns (don't want to look rich in front of blue-collar Ohioans!), Bill's post-presidency influence-peddling (that NY Times story from the end of January has been all but ignored), or what exactly her national security bona fides are. Apparently because she says she's been vetted and she's "ready on Day One," she just is and nobody bothers to question her on it.
But we sure know what the narrative is at gregsargentforhillary.com - I mean, TPM Election Central.
March 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hope that everyone does take a long hard look at this. Democrats want transparency (where are those tax records and appointment records anyway, Hillary?)
If all that's discovered is that Obama had a friend that was highly regarded in the community that started to make some shady and illegal deals when his businesses started to fail, and Obama had NOTHING to do with them in any form whatsoever, I hope that Hillary supporters and the Media will let it go. We're not holding the Hillary campaign responsible for Norman Hsu (who goes on trial soon too).
If Obama did something illegal, then by all means, let's examine this and reprioritize our candidates. The last thing ANY of us want is another crook in the White House. However, if he did nothing other than accept a campaign donation and receive real estate advice, and he's already returned the donations, then we need to back off.
I think the reason that Obama has a staffer in the courtroom is simple. Whatever is said in the trial is going to be used by McCain/Clinton '08 and their 527s or 501 c organizations will be bringing up as much mud as possible regarding the trial. Better to get firsthand notes and prepare for the onslaught of mud that Hillary McCain is going to be throwing...
March 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
More bogeymen from the Clinton campaign. The histrionics and drama knob is certainly cranked up to high with this group. The thinness of their arguments can be measured in direct proportion to the level of hysteria and excitability they use to describe it. Rezko! NAFTA! Plagiarism! Press! Press! You must act or we'll accuse you of bashing us!
Of course this has nothing to do with facts. Never does with the Clinton/Rove crowd. This is only about associating Obama with scandal. The Chicago press has exhaustively covered this "story" for years.
Understandably there is an Obama rep at the trial. How is that of any interest at all? It's not like the Clinton campaign hasn't been banging that drum since this campaign began. You can't be expected to respond to courtroom statements you're unaware of.
And aren't they lucky that Obama refuses to play this game against them?
March 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
"the Obama campaign can throw it out there the way she's doing to see what "sticks"."
I hope this is true. The negative information about him is turning into a cascade, and there's been no pushback whatsoever.
It's time to go negative, Barack. She will not stop until she is stopped. And there are enough skeletons in her closet to throw a Halloween Party for all of those kids she claims she cares so much about.
March 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Whitewater. Somebody just say it already.
March 4, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, PLEASE someone say the word "whitewater" already, and let that "someone" be the media....loud and clear.
March 4, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, I've said it half a dozen times. The spectacle of Hillary implementing the VRWC's Whitewater stragegy against a fellow Democrat is stomach churning, as is the way the MSM is now eagerly chasing the fake bunny on the rail. I defended those two among the loony Republicans who inhabited this state during the entire Whitewater inquisition until I was blue (pun intended) in the face. And now she's doing the same thing to Obama that the Arkansas Project did to her and Bill.
And yet, no one seems to think that that her brazen, gleeful hypocricy is in any way concerning. From those on the right, we get, "well, what did you expect? We told you for years that she was a sociopath. Not that there's anything wrong with that."
From those on the left, we get a shrug of the shoulders and an airy dismissal. "Hey, better it happens to him now than in the general." I utterly reject that proposition.
First, it is not better for it to be happening now. If anyone assumes there will ever be an "end" to this nonscandal, now that Hillary's given it life, they are fooling themselves. Just as in Whitewater, the MSM is now operating on the assumption of guilt based solely upon their innate cynicism and profound suspicion of anyone who seems better than they are. No, it will go on and on and on and, just as in Whitewater, the inability of the MSM to find any actual wrongdoing will inflame their suspicion.
Like Whitewater, this is not about a few "troubling unanswered questions." The idea that there are just a few lingering questions that would cause the whole scandal to go away if they were just answered by those stubborn people is nonsense. The only answers that will satisfy them now are answers that satisfy their presumption of scandal. Give them answers that don't support that presumption and they'll keep asking them and calling them unanswered. Conclusively prove to them that their suspicions are utterly unfounded, and they'll just make up a new set of new "troubling unanswered questions."
By pimping this story herself, she is giving it a cred and a life that it would never have had if it came from the Republicans, and particularly, from Republicans supporting a guy who was one of the Keating Seven. She has guarenteed that we will hear this throughout the campaign after Obama wins and all of our protests will be met with, "hey, Hillary started it so it can't be partisan."
Second, at the risk of repeating myself--hell, it's no risk, I am repeating myself--why isn't anyone on our side even remotely concerned about what this shows about Hillary's character? Anyone other than just us cultists, I mean. The woman wants to be president. A person I want to be president who had lived through this ordeal, is one who would say "that was destructive to the point of nihilism and reprehensible beyond all bounds of what should be acceptable in a democracy. It poisoned our politics in a way that brought the government's ability to actually govern to a screeching halt and nearly brought about a virtual coup de tat. At all costs, we must extirpate such tactics from our political discourse." Not Hillary, however. Hillary just took collected those tactics up and tucked them into her toolkit.
By attempting to reinvent Whitewater and directing it against her foes within the party, she is displaying a level of pathological cynicism one must usually go to a one-party police state dictatorship to find in a leader.
And yet, many on the left, particularly people who were in their twenties during the 90s and thus came to believe the abohorrent degenerate politics praciced during that decade was somehow normal and/or acceptable, just shrug their shoulders and say "hey, politics is a rough business." And many others seem to say, "hey, are you just finding out now that she's utterly ruthless, vindictive beyond all reason and willing to say anything or do anything it takes to get her hands on the levers of power? BFD. Yesteday's news."
Well my answer is no, I am not just finding that out now but I do find it a little odd that after eight years of the Cheney-Rove Administration, more people don't seem to think that those are undesirable character traits in the leader of a democracy. In a way, these people remind me of the MSM's response to the Downing Street Memo.
When the Downing Street Memo leaked, the blogs went crazy and the MSM shrugged its sholders and said, "BFD. Old news. Everybody always knew Bush lied us into this war, so there's no story here." When the left of Franco blogs responded "Hello? You say 'everybody always knew that' and yet none of you bothered to report this important fact that everybody knew at the time we were making important decisions," the MSM responded with a lot of dismissive snorting and huffing about angry leftwing bloggers.
So as long as I'm in broken record mode, I'll say it again. Look at the way Hillary has conducted herself in this campaign. Look at the pathological cynicism. Look at the brazen hypocricy, the paranoia and the self-pity. Oserve the repeated display of a self-centeredness bordering that is well on its way to outright nihilism. I really need someone on the other side to stop whining about righ twing talking points and preaching to me about who has the best policy positions, look at all of these things with as much self-honesty as they can muster and answer a more fundemental question: what is is, exactly, that leads you to believe that giving someone who plays the game this way a lot more power will mitigate, rather than amplify, these character traits? How can you even contemplate giving a person like that the presidency. We've already run that experiement, twice. Back in 1968 and 1972. It did not end well.
March 4, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said.
March 4, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
NCSteve says, "Look at the way Hillary has conducted herself in this campaign." Kudos, NCSteve, for a well reasoned and powerful commentary.
I would add that we should also look at what Hillary is counting on achieving by a careful strategy of omission. She has so far conducted her campaign on a basis of non-disclosure of facts.
Anyone else notice that the Clintons are refusing to make public the very records which could help primary voters be informed in deciding whether to trust her claims and rhetoric? So far, she has had more than a year to come clean on her earmark requests, tax returns, and White House documents.
Hillary's hyperbolic rhetoric, coupled with the obviously intentional non-disclosure of records that might not support that rhetoric, reminds me every day of the Bush team strategy to get us into an Iraq War, i.e., get the deed accomplished before anyone has a clear timely chance to consider facts.
March 4, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ugh, horrid.
Is it time for Obama to hit back hard with all the dirt on Hillary? How about the time she, as a court appointed lawyer defended a man accused of raping a 12 year old by accusing the girl of seducing him and having a thing for 'older men'? How about that Kazakhstan thing? There is so much dirt on Hillary out there it's absurd. She is the far dirtier candidate.
I don't know if Obama even needs to do this in order to win at this point. I suppose we'll see by tomorrow. I hope not, but I can't stand all this vitriol. God damn the Dems are pathetic. Hillary &co. epitomize the "I want to win more then I want to fix the nation" mindset that infests the party. It's disgusting.
March 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama winning this thing is the only reason I won't be switching from Dem to Independent. If Hillary somehow (I don't know how) got the nomination, I would switch that same day, and I would NEVER vote for her or support her in a million years. She is despicable, she is dirty, she is worse than the Republicans as far as I can tell. It is no coincidence that Dante's lowest level of hell was saved for traitors.
March 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'll tell you what should set off alarm bells in the Democratic party...
HILLARY CLINTON ENDORSED JOHN F-ING MCCAIN!!!!
March 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Michelle Obama sat on the Chicago Landmarks Commission during the period of time in which the Commission granted the application to split the property into the house she and Obama subsequently purchased and the lot which Rita Rezko subsequently purchased.
Michelle was a member of the Commission from Nov 4th 1998 until she resigned on March 28,2005. The Chicago Landmark Commission will confirm this if you ask them.
From bloggers I believe that there were two applications made concerning the sale of the Wondisford property located in the Kenwood District. The first was to sell and the second was to divide. It is probable that the application to divide was made under the economic hardship provisions available in the online copy of Landmarks Ordinances -- if so a public hearing was required, the application forwarded to the Chicago City Council Finance Committee and from there to the City Council.
What is unclear whether Michelle voted directly on the applications or whether these were assessed by staff and the commission simply rubber stamped them. The commission deals with some 1,800 applications per year the more routine of which are dealt with by staff.
Kenwood District page of the Chicago Landmarks website describes Kenwood as follows:
Once referred to as the "Lake Forest of the South Side," Kenwood developed as a pleasant residential suburb between the late 1850s and the 1880s. The area retained its suburban character even after annexation to Chicago in 1889. By the turn of the century, Kenwood's residents included lumber merchant Martin Ryerson, meatpacker Gustavus Swift, and Sears Roebuck executive Julius Rosenwald. Kenwood's large single-family residences, set on spacious lots, made the neighborhood unique in Chicago; among the influential architects who designed houses in the district are: George Maher, Benjamin Marshall, Howard Van Doren Shaw, and Frank Lloyd Wright. snip
So you can see that spacious lots are part of the ambience they are trying to preserve. Corner lots are subject to increased scrutiny because they have two sides visible by the public which is what the Landmark Commission supervises.
So if Michelle voted on the application to separate the lots at a time when she wished to buy the house for a price less than the offering price for the combined house and lot, she had a conflict of interest and should have recused herself.
General information from the Chicago Landmarks website:
As of Jan. 1, 2005, 259 Chicago Landmarks have been designated by the City Council, including 217 individual designations, 38 landmark districts, and four district extensions, totalling 6,500 properties.
The Commission is also responsible for reviewing any proposed alteration, demolition, or new construction affecting individual landmarks or properties in landmark districts as part of the permit review process.
Rezko was dirty from the start: he got his start with minority set aside grants of restaurant slots at the O'Hare airport which he later failed to renew. The take from that restaurant chain wen from 200,000 to 2 million. The minority business set aside was not renewed and Chicago revoked the grants on the grounds that the alledged minority participation in the business was phony.
March 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Funny, after reading some of your post, the first question that popped into my mind is did Michelle vote on or approve the sale/divide. Here's what you wrote:
March 4, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I would submit that assume is the wrong word. A more appropirate word would be pretend or manufacture. There is nothing to assume, because there is nothing there. It's a complete distortion by the clintons to manufacture a controversy. However, if they keep it up through June, people will be really, really, really tired of it. I know that I am.
March 4, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, block quotes went a bit crazy. Only this phrase was from the original:
March 4, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
AJM, you say: " Michelle Obama sat on the Chicago Landmarks Commission during the period of time in which the Commission granted the application to split the property into the house she and Obama subsequently purchased and the lot which Rita Rezko subsequently purchased. [False, AJM]
Then you say, "Michelle was a member of the Commission from Nov 4th 1998 until she resigned on March 28,2005. The Chicago Landmark Commission will confirm this if you ask them." [True, AJM]
Then you go on to insinuate a conflict of interest about Michelle voting on the matter of the fence. [nice try, AJM]
Please back up and get your original facts in order. Perhaps you can even check the posting over at TPM Muckrakers for the timeline. Michelle Obama sat on that Commission until March of 2005. The sale went through on June 15, 2005. AFTER the sale went through, the Obamas hired an attorney and architect to get guidance about the fence from the Commission on Chicago Landmarks, which request of the Commission was first answered by Landmarks deputy commissioner Brian Goeken on July 15th, 2005.
It was impossible for Michelle to have voted on the fence matter.
March 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Check the facts before you make assumptions.
Archpundit here in IL has done extensive research on all of these issues, spoken with the local reporters digging into all this for several years and put together the details:
Rezko Primer 1 - http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/01/24/the-rezko-primer/
Rezko Primer 2 - http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/01/26/rezko-primer-ii-political-donations-2/
On the house purchase:
http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/01/24/rezko-primer-vi-house-purchase/
http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/02/18/seller-confirms-obamas-version-on-house-purchase/
and
http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/02/08/the-lot-history-for-obamas-house-and-the-vacant-lot/
The property was listed as separate lots in the Record of Deeds prior to Obama's involvement.
March 4, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
God I hate it when Dems act like Repubs. "Too little too late?" Are you kidding me? Is sincerity even a factor anymore? I'd like to think that one reason to support Clinton is that eight years of a president above the law is eight years too many. But that clearly is not her argument. I'd like to think that truth and inspiration are important in a democracy. Not to Hillary, though. I'd like to think that journalists seek facts and not just report innuendo. But not so much, eh Greg?
March 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Does the Hillary campaign have somebody in the Rezko courtroom?
March 4, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Are you kidding me? They flew someone to indonesia to interview his kindergarten teacher, I am sure they have people sitting in the courtroom.
March 4, 2008 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Many Obama supporters are not going to vote for HRC, many Clinton supporters are not going to vote for Obama. Let's guess, who is going to be the next President?
March 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's easy to read a handful of passionate posts by Obama / Clinton supporters and conclude: there is NO way they'll ever vote for the other candidate!
But, in a general election against John McCain, I still believe either Hillary or Obama would be preferable.
Of course, it's easier for me to say this knowing that the chances of Hillary becoming the Democratic Nominee are fading every day.
March 4, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not so. As the lines continue to blur between Hillary and McCain, so do the distinctions.
Yesterday's report that Hillary is unlikely to pull the plug in Iraq makes the point. And Bill Clinton's entire presidency (the very essence of triangulation) was to push the Democratic party to the soft middle.
March 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
March 4, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillary steals the nomination despite having fewer pledged delegates, I rather suspect you'll find out diffrently.
March 4, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sure seems odd that after YEARS of being attacked about WhiteWater, that the Clintons would now attack a FELLOW DEMOCRAT over his affiliation with a man that EVEN THEY NEW and met at Carol Mosel Brauns fundraiser in the 90's.
Guess they learned a lesson from their enemy the GOP -- attack attack attack attack and if that isn't enough, attack again.
March 4, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
I gotta hand it to the Clintons -- they have some kind of love of living on the edge that scares the bejeezus out of me. Next week, it will be tax return time.....
March 4, 2008 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Hillary Spokesperson: Obama-Rezko Story Should "Set Off Alarm Bells In Newsrooms Across America""
I get it:
Hillary's team tells reporters what they should think, and they blindly follow along.
March 4, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
i can tell most of you are young and dont understand campaigns.....wait until the general election and see the scrutiny obama will get (if in fact he is the nominee) the MSM wont be able to save him from the GOP attacks .....so far this has been kiddee games for him
March 4, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
She's no legging to stand on. Let's talk about all of her sleazy campaign contributors. Let's see her tax returns. Hypocrite Rodham Clinton.
March 4, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
greg is one of the fairest bloggers on this site .......where is the MSM coverage of yesterdays press conference in which obama walked of after 8 questions with reporters yelling he dodged 4 of the 8 questions
March 4, 2008 11:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
TAX RETURN
TAX RETURN
TAX RETURN
CLINTON-GIUSTRA
CLINTON-GIUSTRA
The press does need to look into Rezko fairly but they also need to look into Clinton's tax returns and Bill Clinton's library, foundation, and how library donors use him to get foreign deals with dictators and how Bill Clinton calls them democratic and publicly goes against US foreign policy for his donors (google Nazarbayev, Clinton, Giustra)
March 4, 2008 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
her financial statement is filed in the senate as is all senators go to the senate site and read it ,,,,,the library has to do with her husband not her
March 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the problem, she took $5MM from their joint account. Her senate disclosure don't require her to list, with any specificity where the funds in those accounts come from. Moreover, Bill Clinton is allowed to draw a salary (of unspecified amount) from the donations to his foundations and the Clinton Library. So to the extent those funds have found their way into their personal bank accounts, I think it is rather reasonable to address questions about where he earns his money.
March 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
There are MANY unanswered questions about Rezko!!
And the media has given Obama a pass from the gitgo.
Why won't Obama release the documents for the house closing?
Why did Obama reach out to Rezko for financial help? - KNOWING he was the target of a federal investigation.
Rezko toured Obama's house with him before he bought it. Obviously Obama didn't mind locking arms with Rezko.
btw - Hillary is releasing tax returns next month.
March 4, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
What financial assistance did he provide him? There's no evidence of a loan. He didn't sell the strip of land to him at a discount. Obama has no right to use the property. No option to buy the property at below market value. So, again, what financial assistance or benefit did he provide Obama? As for Rezko touring the property, he's a real estate developer/investor and Obama sought his opinion on the property. If that's a crime, then a lot of folks should be in jail.
As for the Clintons tax returns, I believe her 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006 tax returns have been completed and should be readily available. There's no reason to delay providing those.
March 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
What documents? You wanna see the HUD-1? What do you think there would be in the contract or settlement documents that would have anything to do with the (nonsensical) allegations made in this matter?
March 4, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, any time a piece of real estate is sold, certain records derived as a result of the real estate closing are entered into the public record. Transfer of title or deed, is recorded at the county clerk's or registrar's office and is available for viewing by any member of the public who should so choose to access it.
Go look up his closing records yourself. Stop trying to excite concern with a bunch of exclamatory! questions.
March 4, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
An obvious point that shouldn't be missed. Singer is telling the media they should be covering this story by pointing to a media article covering the story. Pretty funny if you ask me.
March 4, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Funny, in a trainwreck kind of way. I have little confidence that the media will get the issue.
How about those Giants?
March 4, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
How much money did Hsu donate to Obama's HopeFund??
Wasn't it about $60K?
March 4, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not sure the exact amount, but the funds were disgorged. How much money did Hsu raise at Clinton's direction to retire Vilsack's campaign debt? Did Vilsack ever disgorge that money?
March 4, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Umm, the "my husband, not me" line ain't gonna cut it in the general. Everybody knows he'd be a major presence in her administration.
March 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama/Rezko08
March 4, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clintons/Guistra/Hsu/Rich/FALN/
I can keep going if you like....
March 4, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Condescending much?
I find it disgraceful that Clinton is using the same tactics against Obama that the Republicans used against her. But I guess at 47 I'm just too young to get that this is how things are done.
As for the ridiculous "wait until the general election" theme that Clinton, and Clinton supporters have been hammering, why wait? Clinton is dishing out the same slime that Republicans will.
And you know what? If Hillary is the nominee, we can look forward to Republicans saying "Even Hillary said McCain would be a good president"...Thanks, Clintons, for a really well-done campaign. Scorched earth, indeed.
March 4, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Republicans will attack Hillary with equal or greater vigor should she somehow secure the nomination. Who the Democratic nominee is makes no difference.
March 4, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
i agree but we all know she can take a bashing ....obama has shown he gets upset with tough questions and gets shook up at critisim
March 4, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwg6vwJdOyI
Hi Pot, haven't heard from you in a while.
Sincerely,
Kettle.
March 4, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's CNN.com covering Limbaugh today:
He also said Clinton is more willing than the Republican National Committee and John McCain's campaign to criticize Barack Obama.
"We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically. It's obvious that the Republicans are not going to do it, they don't have the stomach for it," Limbaugh continued. "As you probably know we're getting all kinds of memos from the RNC saying we're not going to be critical. Mark McKinnon of McCain's campaign said he'll quit if they get critical over Obama. This is the presidency of the United States we're talking about. I want our party to win I want the Democrats to lose.”
March 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has been very deceptive!
He used "Harry and Louise" ads against universal health care that the Insurance industry used in 1993-94 to kill UHC.
Then his own ads say he supports UHC! but he doesn't even have a universal plan.
Obama's race baiting via surrogates - then blaming it on the Clintons - is despicable!
Obama has continuously played the Victim Card.
March 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good god - did you not see the last debate? Oh, poor Hillary, she always gets the first question (which is absurd on its face - I think she gets the first question about 65% of the time, which is NOT "always" - and, sometimes when questions are not directed at her she answers first anyway). She is the consummate victim "waaa, waa, the press is so mean to me". Please, your argument has no basis in fact. An ad mailer that may be reminiscent of Harry and Louise (I'm not so sure it is) is NOTHING compared to the constant cries of foul from the Hillary campaign - most (if not all) of which are bullshit.
March 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excitable! JoseyJ!
I live in Massachusetts. We have healthcare mandates. They suck. If you try to register a car, get a new job, enroll a kid in school, you have to prove you have health insurance. In real life, they feel very much like Orwellian Big Brother intimidation. If you don't have it, no car, no job, no education for your kid.
And who benefits from mandates? The sick? The infirm? Nope. The insurance companies, of course. Because what Hillary has neatly packaged as "universal healthcare" isn't universal healthcare at all. It's universal access to health insurance. And when it's mandated, the insurance companies profit. They love Hillary's plan, btw.
What the Obama mailers have rightly done is remind people of the gnarly and unseemly details of these mandates. They are presented by the Clinton campaign as benign and benevolent. They are anything but.
March 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
well im 67 and voted for JFK and the general is the major leagues.....your whining in the minors ...if you think its not going to be rougher in the GE your dreaming
March 4, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
The only campaign whining is the Clinton campaign. Don't confuse supporters on this thread crying foul with the Obama campaign. They've rebutted every challenge, but not complained. You can't with a straight face suggest otherwise. Of course, as a Clinton supporter, that's not going to stop you from advance the bullshit meme anyway.
So tell me about Guistra? Clinton refused to answer any questions about their relationship with him.
March 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have no doubt that it will "be rougher" in the general. The thing that I also have no doubt about is that there is nothing there to be concerned about obama's background, unlike the clintons. The clinton machine has dug up, delved into, and distorted as much mud as they possibly can on obama. I am sure that they left no stone unturned. What did they find? Nada.
On the other hand, 130 million from a uranium deal with the kazahkstan dictator. How many more millions did the clintons obtain for their "foundations" with the promises of sweetheart deals when she gets to be president, because it is owed to her. Mr. Bill is going to have to pay back those markers and he won't be able to. Huge problem for them. What a shame.
There is absolutely no comparison between the dirt and filth associated with the clintons and obama.
March 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chivalry is not dead. The fair maid, a damsel in distress, calls to her knights to come to her aid, and, lo, they ride forth to slay non-existent dragons. Though there are no dragons to slay, the knights-Ridder, et. al., can sit tall in their saddles, confident that they have not failed to protect the fair, blond, maid.
March 4, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
What Clinton supporters fail to realize is that voting for the lesser of two evils is not going to get Obama supporters to the polls in November. Short of choosing him as a VP, which I doubt he would accept, she has NO chance in November. Dragging down Obama is a disaster for the Democratic party. It not only affects the Presidential race, it hurts the party in close congressional elections across the country. It's arrogant of her to think that she can participate the way has and still get all the votes in November. I, for one, would never vote for her now.
March 4, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure that's true. I think we have a fairly narrow view of Clinton and Obama supporters based on what we read here and on other blogs (and blog posters seem to be a pretty passionate subset of the Democratic party). Every poll that's come out of the general public would be happy with either candidate and will vote for either in the general.
At least, that is my hope...the most important thing is to get a Democrat in the White House in November because McCain scares the bejesus out of me!
March 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anybody see this link on the front page? I'll bet a lunch that ohio doesn't get decided tonight. The clintons get to live on for the next ten days at a minimum. Very, very strange "extension." I wonder if the county administrator is a clinton supporter.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/04/court-order-calls-for-provisional-ballots-in-one-ohio-county/
March 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg-
In the Rezko case, is there even the possibility or the allegation of anything illegal or any wrongdoing? As US Senator when he bought the house, Obama did not have oversight of any government agency that regulated Rezko, or his business.
So this is a faux scandal, nothing like others (for example, Whitewater) where there was theoretical possibility of some quid pro -- then Governor Clinton had regulatory oversight of his friend, campaign donor Jim McDougal's bank. Hillary represented him before that commission.
Now I'm a Democrat, hated the right wing attack job that used Whitewater to cripple the Clintons, and don't like bringing it up now. But I do so because the Clintons are using the exact same kind of Rovean dirty tactics against Obama that were used against them -- with the substantial difference with Rezko that there is not even the remote theoretical possibility of similar wrongdoing. In Rezko, it's Governor Blagojevich who is in the position to have done wrong, just like Governor Clinton was in that position with McDougal.
Given all that, the Clinton's tactics are nothing short of slimy, disgusting, and depressing.
And the press? From what I can tell so far, they're just repeating the questions pushed by Wolfson, without even pausing to ask if there is a "there there."
Guess the "attack the press" strategy worked.
March 4, 2008 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
i have a thought about why HRC should take this to the convention
the dem party needs to wake up and change their system.....this system is set up for a disaster as this campaign has turned out to be.......proportional delagates and caucus's make it almost impossible for a candidate to reach 2025 delagates if the dem party is split on the 2 candidates as they are .and having open primaries where outsiders have a say in the parties selections is also stupid...by going to the convention maybe they will learn that this crazy system should be changed ...for example if they were winner take all like the repubs have hillary would have a 400 delagate lead after super tuesday.......her electoral vote lead would be way up also.....taking one stae like wisconsin where the dem vote was 50 to 49 in favor of obama ..because of GOP and independents it ended up obama by 17.......outsiders made it a big win for obama......this is not a way to pick a candidate....the dem party has to wake up and change the system
March 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the same system we were using in 2004 and 2000 and we had no trouble coming quickly to a nominee then. The results do not point to any sort of systemic failure in our mechanisms of selecting a nominee - indeed, precisely the opposite. This year things are actually working well. We are getting folks energized even in states like Ohio and Wisconsin and Nebraska - states which get little attention of ordinary seasons of late. We are simply blessed with a larger than usual selection of good candidates this year, and thus we have a hard time picking one based on this embarras de richesse.
March 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
TAX RETURNS!
March 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
ALLS FAIR IN LOVE, WAR AND POLITICS
quit moaning you obama people he has to grow up
March 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps you should deliver this message over at Hillaryis44.org or at HillaryClinton.com.
March 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Check this out:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/14/153522/320/811/456849
(this story is a few weeks old, but there's an update on the DailyKOS front page)
While Hillary is trying to destroy the party from within, Barrack is actually filming commercials and trying to get Democrats elected.
March 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think any Obama supporter have a problem with someone brining up Rezko- we KNOW it will come up in the general. I think we are just a little disgusted that it is Hillary not McCain. I mean- with Whitewater in her past there is a little more irony than I am comfortable with. Both are land deals that were investigated ad nauseum and yet produced no finding of wrong doing. I think there is no "there" there for either. What is notable is that Hillary uses Rezko and Obama doesn't use Whitewater. And if he did--- who would be the first to cry out "Republican talking points" or "Karl Rove playbook."
For a campaign thats talking points are all about a double standard- it seems to me the glaring one is how all of the Clinton scandals have been off limits. If she's the nominee- we will be re-visiting all the scandals (Travelgate, filegate, Monicagate, Vince Foster, whitewater-- should we go on????) and McCain has no problem using Republican talking points- he is after all a REPUBLICAN!!!!
March 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
But don't you know that's all old news. The republicans have either forgotten about the clintons' numerous scandals or they just won't bring them up. We all have amnesia according to the clintonites.
March 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
it was part of series of bad stories about obama that headlined the 5:30 news last night. what strikes me as unbelievable is that the MSM discusses how HRC is using this as a strategy and the MSM reports and then plays along. lemmings, all lemmings.
March 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry Carol, I've agreed with many of your posts. But I've voted Dem in every presidential election since I turned 18 in 1976 - never once voted 3rd party even though I didn't like most of the candidates. And as it stands now I will not vote for Hillary under any circumstances.
I didn't start out with that attitude and I've waivered some since then. But I won't vote for her. I guarantee I'm not alone. And she's going to have a hard time getting black voters to turn out in the record numbers they've provided for the last few elections. They're driving people away from the party, not bringing them in as Obama has already done.
The Clintons are as low as any Republicans when it comes to campaigning. And I think, maybe, they're as low as any Republicans - period. Yep, that's pretty harsh for a lifelong Democrat. But I honestly think they're scum.
March 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am with you on the scum part--- but I would urge you and all others here to remember- the SUPREME COURT hangs in the balance here. What ever you think of Obama or Clinton- come November- the vote must be for a democrat. You can think of it as a vote for a supreme court justice or you can think of it as an anti-Republican vote. But any lifelong democrat who votes for a third party or sits it out- has to seriously re-examine why they are a democrat- it's the policies stupid... The personalities come and go
March 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
And here we have the new ad for Hillary fear mongering:
It's a 4-4 tie on the Supreme Court. Who do you want to fill the tie breaking slot?
Actually, the Senate decides who gets to go to the Supreme Court. And my guess with Hillary on the ballot, the Senate will, once again, become GOP -- especially if the Clinton camp runs that type of ad.
Me? Why, if it's Hillary vs. McCain, I'm going to do what Hillary has told me to do all along:
Vote Experience.
March 4, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd vote for Clinton over McCain for any office, anywhere. I don't care if she fudged some taxes or what, McCain has done so much more than Clinton to make me worry.
I vote for perspective over experience. What good is experience when it gets you John McCain's record?
March 4, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
No need to be sorry! :)
You know what - I'm not voting for her, either - I'm from NY and I feel very strongly that, for myself, I have to lodge a protest vote in the generals if she is the nominee. I was never a Hillary supporter - I was originally for Edwards, and now for Obama. She has completely lost whatever regard I had for her as my Senator with her nasty, underhanded, slimy tactics during this campaign. I just don't think that most Democrats feel the same way we do, or at least they won't in November. The American people have a very short memory and I think the focus by then will be taking back the White House (and the country) - for most people, all will be forgotten and the way she ran her campaign against Obama will be chalked up to "well, that's politics". This, of course, is if she gets the nomination - I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the Ohio and Texas voters will send her a clear message that she is not the right candidate to beat McCain in November.
March 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hi Greg,
I actually commend you for this story. Although when I first sat down to read it, I felt the need to jump and point out the obvious bias. However, I think the fact that you wrote out a complete thought and posted it publicly points to the changing nature of the press in this campaign.
Essentially the press is "going nuclear" right now and unfortunately the stories have little teeth. I hate to be so literal, but in a world of irony I think my posts are refreshing.
March 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I sure wouldn't mind if Obama had some surrogates to at least remind people of the campaign donor issues that have surrounded the Clintons their entire career, Norman Hsu being even more recent than Rezko. And the company whose executives are mired in sexual harrassment cases. Hillary, always playing fair, is waiting for those cases to be adjudicated. All 103 of them. Where are the feminists now? Such hypocrites.
There's no one who can draw the parallel between Hillary sounding like the Republican hit men (pick a name, any name)? Just to put it in context and throw a volley that actually defines his opponent? I'm frankly surprised the campaign was not prepared to do this more effectively. For Hillary Clinton to make campaign donors an issue, and land deals -- LAND DEALS, for God's sake -- and the Obama people not be able to volley that back? I'm frankly, very disappointed.
And if they want all the info on Rezko (of which there is no more, or the Chicago papers would have been all over it), then you demand Bill's donor lists from the library and the foundation. That those numbers, and the source of their $54,000,000 worth is hidden, takes all the legs out of their chest-thumping.
I expected the Gates of Hell before March 4. Even I didn't anticipate the amount of mud they could sling, so fast. But Obama is still responsible for his response. I understand the high road, I really do. But it is still the candidate's job to define his candidate -- that's Politics 101. I'm not pleased.
March 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I suggest that Obama is still thinking long term -- and will stay on his track. This will pay dividends in the GE. While it may be a bit tougher to get to the GE, he won't be sullied.
Think biggest picture.
March 4, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm going to agree with clearthinker. Also, Obama's won more delegates than Clinton with the strategy his campaign has chosen. Why change strategies after today?
The only thing I've been disappointed with regarding Obama's campaign has been its less-than-dignified response to Clinton's treatment of the photo of Obama in Somalian clothing.
March 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I tell you what - I really, really hope that the press does focus and focus hard on the Rezko story. Once they do, everyone will realize that there is no there there. Right now, Obama's problem is that most folks merely know that there is some dirty business involving a guy named Rezko, but they do not know the particulars. Once this becomes 24 hour headline focus and every jot and tittle is aired in public, people will see that Gov Blagojevich is badly tainted by association with Rezko but Obama is mostly just an innocent-but-involved party. Better to immunize our guy against this issue in the fall by airing the whole thing out right now.
This issue is good for a short term boost for the Clintons because there is no time for a thorough treatment of the subject before voting is done, so it mostly serves to leave a taint in the minds of late deciders as they head to the polls today. It will have little traction for either of Obama's opponents (either Clinton or McCain) once the press really digs into it, however. As such, the sooner they do dig into it deeply, the better for Obama.
March 4, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
And her taxes? Her financial troubles pending in court? When does the press cover that, when the primaries are over???
March 4, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, that's certainly the way it worked with their investigation of the Whitewater nonscandal.
March 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.peterfpaul.com/
Why then don't you talk about Peter Paul Hillary?
March 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know the obamatrons are getting nervous when all of the ridiculous canards come out.
"Where are the tax returns?" is just a variation of the classic republican smear where you find one thing that the person can do beyond what is required and hammer them for not doing it. She has done every senate disclosure necessary, and nobody has any actual unanswered questions. What do you think you will find? A line item on a schedule C for bribes to kiddie porn dealers? It will just show the amounts of money they made, which are already disclosed in the senate reports. And calling for her to release her tax returns when Obama is still withholding some of his is even sillier.
"She endorsed McCain!" Everyone here knows that she was not endorsing McCain. Everyone here knows she was making the same argument she has made dozens of times: that she has the experience to counter McCain and Obama does not. If you think Obama has the experience, then just say that. But don't pretend that you actually believe she endorsed McCain. Should she lie and say that McCain has no experience? Should we just not mention that the guy was a war hero and an extremely popular senator for decades and just HOPE that nobody notices? That is just silly. He is very experienced. Hillary commented on that and argues that he can counter it. Obama thinks McCain's experience is irrelevant because he brings hope and puppies for everyone. That's all there is to this.
"Rezko? Bring it on!" The story according to Obama is that he would not have been able to buy the house without Rezko's help. His biggest donor spent lots of money (not directly to Obama) to ensure that Obama could get a house that he otherwise says he could not have afforded. How is that good for Obama? How is that anything other than cronyism? How, if your campaign is based on "judgement" do you reconcile such a "boneheaded" move with your supposed good judgement? Even if there is nothing else here (and Obama has already had to change his story several times to account for facts he keeps getting wrong: underreporting donations, collusion on the land deal, actions that he took for Rezko, etc) that is pretty bad on its own. But if nothing else bad is there, why is a Senate staffer sitting in on the trial? Wouldn't that person's (government salaried) time be better spent preparing for Obama's first hearing in his subcommittee?
"But Hillary did X, Y, and Z!" Perhaps. But other than annoying comments from her staff members about who had what title, there is nothing new on Hillary. These things are bad because, like the NAFTA story, they drip drip drip out over the course of a week and continue to show deception with every new revelation. The NAFTA thing might fade with his loss in Ohio, but now Rezko will drip drip drip over the next few weeks. Not because Hillary is making stuff up or feeding the press, but because it is there. You only know about the Hillary "scandals" because people spent tens of millions of dollars building those molehills up into mountains a decade ago. Yet she is still the most respected woman on the planet (Oprah is #2), is more popular with Democrats than Obama (he is ahead through crossover votes), and is a viable candidate for president.
"She's throwing the kitchen sink!" Maybe just part of the spout (not including that little filter you already stole to use in your bong). Or the handle. If this looks kitchen sink to you, you are extremely naive. Dukakis got hit in the primaries with the "prison furlough" issue. It was a reasonable policy question: were the prison furloughs a good idea. It wasn't some secret policy--it was part of his record. They debated it. He won the primary. In the general election, the republicans picked out one guy who had been on the furlough program and ran ads saying "be scared of the black man." They painted a white guy with "be scared of the black man" and won on it, and you are afraid that Hillary is mentioning a sleazy donor? The republican attacks on Obama won't be for Rezko or NAFTA. They are going to beat the crap out of him with some obscure policy position that he took as a state senator, or find some guy currently in Guantanamo that painted his house in Indonesia, or some business dealing or law filing in Chicago that you have never heard of. They are going to drop the whole kitchen on him.
If this is what you are expecting to head into the general election with, you might as well start printing up your "Impeach McCain" bumper stickers now.
March 4, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The story according to Obama is that he would not have been able to buy the house without Rezko's help."
No, he said he couldn't afford to buy the house and the lot together. He didn't need Rezko's help to buy the house, and apparently there were other bidders on the lot (and on the house).
"His biggest donor spent lots of money (not directly to Obama) to ensure that Obama could get a house that he otherwise says he could not have afforded."
How so? The Seller says there was no connection between the two deals.
"But if nothing else bad is there, why is a Senate staffer sitting in on the trial? Wouldn't that person's (government salaried) time be better spent preparing for Obama's first hearing in his subcommittee?"
Read more carefully. It's a campaign staffer, not a Senate staffer.
"But other than annoying comments from her staff members about who had what title, there is nothing new on Hillary."
And what is new on Obama/Rezko?
March 4, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm an Obama supporter, but I don't mind the Rezko story. First, Obama and his team need the practice in dealing with this sort of thing, because there's going to be lots more in the general. Second, the more this particular story gets aired now, the weaker its legs will be in the general.
And I trust Obama will continue to have the good sense not to respond in kind.
March 4, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's campaign trying to point out a disgraced former fund raiser is just so ironic. In the last 16 years, how many fund raisers for the Clinton's have been accused of illegal or immoral behavior? If the press goes full bore on the Rezko situation, in all fairness, they have to dredge up all the past foibles of the Clinton fundraising activities.
March 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has flat out lied about his relationship with Rezko and the land deal. It is not whether he has been charged or not. What will come out as this trial gets going? We don't need to nominate. All of Hillary's dirt is public knowledge. Republicans have been trying to get her for over 15yrs and have failed. Obama is running as a holier than thou candidate. He is living in a glass house and he has been throwing boulders at Clinton for months. Just when he is finally asked some real questions, he turns into an equivocating politician. We already know Hillary, we don't know Obama. If there is nothing to this Rezko thing why can't he just put it to rest by answering the questions? You guys are willing to throw the whole election away, becasue you don't want to know. Obama is perfect in your eyes. The republians will kill him with this.
March 4, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Obama has flat out lied about his relationship with Rezko and the land deal."
How so?
March 4, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bret08: Most posts on this blog are relatively intelligent and insightful and therefore worth reading. Yours, however, is rife with misstatements, outright falsehoods and long-ago debunked Clinton talking points. Please go away. I thank you in advance.
March 4, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
justajournalist Are you saying he didn't lie when he said he had no idea that Rezko was under investigation? Are you saying that he didn't lie when he said he only did "5hrs of work for that individual". You can ingore the truth if you want, but He is not being forthcoming about his relationship with Rezko and it will only hurt him. He says he is different kind of politician and he wants to change Washington. I guarantee you that this will only get worse as the trial goes on. Stay tuned.
March 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama never reprented Rezko; as a junior associate he did about 5 hours of work for a non-profit entity that was in a partnership with Rezko to develop low-income housing. That's the facts.
March 4, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who has Rush Limbaugh told Texans to go out and vote for today?
Hillary 'McCain would be a better President' Clinton
Case closed. It's Obama or Gore as a write-in for me.
March 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Mrs. Clinton,
In the interest of full disclosure, let's go over it one more time--you know, the answer to how your private papers from the Rose law firm showed up mysteriously on your night table in the White House.
And, of course let's dig a little into your relationship with Vince Foster.
Oh, and while we're at it, those nasty little tax returns that you're holding onto, that might disclose where you found $5 million in pin money to help your campaign a few weeks ago.
Sincerely, Yarnman
P.S. You should be so lucky to have such benign press coverage!
March 4, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink