DAMN this woman for answering this question truthfully!

She should have lied!

Oh wait....

It's interesting that neither McCain nor Huckabee would attack Obama on the Wright thing, but Hillary is now doing it, probably after seeing that Obama is rebounding from it.

Her legacy is not permanently tarnished. I will not vote for her again for any public office and will actively work to make sure she is not re-elected to the Senate in New York.

Maybe she doesn't trust herself not to misspeak.

Clinton happens to be right.
90% of the people defending Obama wouldn't go within 5 miles of that "church."

How can a guy with a Harvard degree, who TAUGHT at Harvard law school make a wanna be rap star, his spiritual advisor? Take his children to worship in this character's church?

He anticipated a career in national politics and didn't understand that Wright would be a potential hazard?

There are no new age, multi racial congregations in all of Chicago? THIS is what our enlightened unifier thinks of as spiritual?

How sooooo human of her.

Lovely. This is how she avoids the talk of padding her Resume. I have a feeling that this is going to backfire on her though. There has been a little too much of her camp stance of "I'm not being negative, I'm just saying he's a dick," and people are starting to see it for the BS that it is. Hence him getting within 10 in PA and leading by 20 in NC. People can tell the genuine from the contrived.

My relay call to the Clinton Headquarters:

slinkerwink: 703 469 2008 SIPRelay: Welcome to Sorenson IP Relay. A Relay Operator will be with you shortly. SIPRelay: This call is not encrypted. SIPRelay: Sorenson IP Relay does not accept international calls. SIPRelay: Call start time: 13:27:12 Mountain Daylight Time calling: 7034692008 Welcome to Sorenson IP Relay. I am CA2310(M). Please hold while I connect your call... SIPRelay: [Dialing...] SIPRelay: [Ringing...1...] SIPRelay: (2...) SIPRelay: (3...) SIPRelay: (4...) SIPRelay: (5...) SIPRelay: [Automated Menu] SIPRelay: [Female voice] SIPRelay: (Collecting information... please hold) SIPRelay: Thank you for calling Hillary Clinton for president. SIPRelay: We are happy to assist you with comments, questions, and concerns. SIPRelay: If you know your parties extension, please dial one at anytime, or for the dial by name directory, press nine. SIPRelay: To make a contribution to the campaign, please press two. SIPRelay: If you'd like to volunteer, please send an e-mail to volunteers@HillaryClinton.com or please stay on the line SIPRelay: and leave your name, phone number, and the state you wish to volunteer. SIPRelay: An organizer will contact you with more information. SIPRelay: To request a meeting or speaking appearance of Senator Clinton, please fax a request to 703-962-8607. SIPRelay: If you have a message of support, or comment or suggestion for the campaign, please press three. slinkerwink: press 3 SIPRelay: (Pressing 3) SIPRelay: (Collecting information... please hold) SIPRelay: [Automated female voice] SIPRelay: Please hold while your call is transferred. SIPRelay: [Ringing...1...] SIPRelay: (2...) SIPRelay: (3...) SIPRelay: (4...) SIPRelay: (5...) SIPRelay: (6...) SIPRelay: [An answering machine has picked up.] SIPRelay: [Female voice] SIPRelay: (Collecting information... please hold) SIPRelay: Thank you for calling Hillary Clinton for president. Your comments are very important to us. SIPRelay: Please leave a message at the tone. SIPRelay: [Automated female voice] SIPRelay: This mailbox cannot accept messages, because it is full. SIPRelay: For further assistance, press zero slinkerwink: press 0 SIPRelay: (Pressing 0) SIPRelay: (Collecting information... please hold) SIPRelay: [Male voice] SIPRelay: [Explaining Relay...] slinkerwink: This is Adam. I'm calling through relay because I'm deaf. SIPRelay: Okay. slinkerwink: I read your candidate's interview in the newspaper today but hearing Hillary Clinton attack Obama like that made me mad. How can she do that? It's an attack on my church! I belong to that faith, the united church of christ! SIPRelay: What is the specific article? slinkerwink: I'm mad! I am going to tell everyone I know to vote against Hillary. SIPRelay: I do not know the specific article. slinkerwink: She said she would leave the church if her pastor said stuff she didn't agree with. It's in the richard scaife owned newspaper SIPRelay: So I can't really comment on anything, I don't know which article you're referring to. slinkerwink: this is the same newspaper that attacked hillary Clinton for vince foster back in the 90s. I can't take Hillary Clinton's damaging the Democratic Party anymore.You can forget about my vote in the general election! SIPRelay: OKayl. SIPRelay: xxx Okay. slinkerwink: tell Hillary she needs to drop out NOW. SIPRelay: The thing is the Reverend Wright deal is she really does have a good point. slinkerwink: no, she doesn't. I belong to that faith SIPRelay: If the pastor is racist or anti-American, then having going to that church for more than 20 years slinkerwink: I know the Trinity Church is nothing like that SIPRelay: You should be able to figure out that you should go to another church. slinkerwink: I have friends in Chicago. they go to that church. They're mad as hell about how three minute clips out of 10 years of videotaped sermons are being taken out of context. Your candidate Hillary invited Reverend Wright to the White House SIPRelay: Well, the only thing that we know about the church is what we have heard from the media and other people. slinkerwink: back in 1998 slinkerwink: It was fox news that pushed this, remember? they're the ones that went after the Clintons. so why would you take a video clip edited out of context at its word from fox news? SIPRelay: It was in the 90s and Bill Clinton has meant tens of thousands of people. slinkerwink: why are you repeating right-wing talking points? I used to support bill clinton SIPRelay: There is a lot of situations where he is shaken hands with a million to 2 million people. SIPRelay: It is impossible to know everything about the people that go to the White House. slinkerwink: but I don't support him when he's race-baiting. Oh, please, Wright was invited TWICE to the White House SIPRelay: However these comments were made in June and November of last year not 10 years ago slinkerwink: If he was good enough for the white house back then. if he was good enough to have bill ask him for forgiveness for cheating on hillary....then why are they throwing reverend wright, a man they asked for forgiveness, under the bus? SIPRelay: Hillary and Bill did not go to the church for 10 years. slinkerwink: It's in the new york times article slinkerwink: It's an attack on my faith SIPRelay: It's a completely different story. slinkerwink: IT's an attack on people of fait. no, it's not. You guys are attacking the black church. that's why you're losing african american votes. do you know the damage your candidate is doing to the democratic party? SIPRelay: Well, I really can't comment beyond your opinion. slinkerwink: she might as well become lieberman slinkerwink: Of course you can't. What's your name? SIPRelay: If you fill it was an attack on your faith, and we do apologize for that, because it wasn't meant to be like that SIPRelay: . These comments were made by Reverend Wright. He is known to make comments like this quite often. slinkerwink: It's how people in the United Church of Christ are taking it. SIPRelay: We are stating the facts. slinkerwink: They are taking it as an attack on their faith. slinkerwink: THe facts you cite are based on a grossly misedited sound bite pushed by fox news. slinkerwink: I'm glad you spoke to me. SIPRelay: Well I can't comment on anything beyond that. slinkerwink: I know the truth now and I will publish this relay conversation and share it with my friends in Pittsburgh. thank you for showing your true colors. You are no democrats. brapolitics: end call operator SIPRelay: [Your call has been disconnected.] SIPRelay: [Thank you for choosing SIPRelay. 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Oh look... a shiny object.

I'm no longer concerned about why a prominent politician would lie about her 35 years of experience after getting called out in video form.

Exactly how stupid does she think everyone is?

This is only opening up more problems than their worth because she stayed with a straying husband for how many years?

He without sin may cast the first stone.

She who has dodged 'sniper-fire' must wait awhile..

Hillary: Goodbye, black voters. Hello, closet Klansmen!

Seriously--there's nothing good about Clinton sticking with this. Nothing good. The fact that she is reading stuff indicates just how explosive it is.

On the other hand, those tax returns aren't being discussed any longer, are they?

Or, second thought, maybe Hillary is just going to dismiss all these comments next week by saying "I say millions of words, and I was really tired after all that Easter chocolate I ate"

On the other hand, my guess this is the Clinton campaign's way of goading Obama. Don't take the bait, Obama.

Upon further reflection;

I am not going to be too hard on Hillary Rambo Clinton for this episode of false memory recovery. It may be that she just had a "Senior moment" just like John McCain did about Iran training Al Qaeda. Neither one of them are all that young you know.

What I am really now worried about is that Hillary Rambo Clinton's Tuzla recollection will cause her to suffer from severe attacks of Imaginary Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, which would make her unable to cope with the 3.00AM ringing of her Imaginary Red Phone.

Imaginary Combat can lead to Imaginary long lasting Trauma.

Say some Imaginary Prayers for our Hillary Rambo Clinton the Heroine of Tuzla...., and I will ask Reverend Wright to do the same for her!!!

But her husband would invite the guy to a prayer breakfast to save his butt during Monicagate . . . .

I've seen her read her responses like this before. After 7 years of parsed words, people might be sick of these carefully worded statements. It's her picking at the scab that will make news, not how she rationalizes her response.

Excellent that Hillary is finally attacking Obama directly. There is NO EXCUSE for him attending that Church for 20 years listening to Rev hateamerica hatethe whiteman Wright. Even Oprah left the Church when she heard his hatespeech. Why does this Church still have its tax exempt status when Rev Wright was bashing the Clintons from the pulpit using the N word? You think Obama did not hear of that? If you do I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you.

Now for Josh Marshall singing "Kumbaya"

Jonathan Chait and I would rather vote "for Hitler's dog"

Can you post the Obama response:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/25/806513.aspx

“After originally refusing to play politics with this issue, it’s disappointing to see Hillary Clinton’s campaign sink to this low in a transparent effort to distract attention away from the story she made up about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia," Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton writes. "The truth is, Barack Obama has already spoken out against his pastor’s offensive comments and addressed the issue of race in America with a deeply personal and uncommonly honest speech. The American people deserve better than tired political games that do nothing to solve the larger challenges facing this country.”

"I was asked a question, so I have to bring it up at every opportunity, as do my surrogates and supporters"

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Let's just call it what it is: desperation.

Reverend Wright served in the Marines. Bill Clinton avoided the draft. I think that Reverend Wright has already put his life on the line to defend America.

Is Senator Clinton running against Rev. Wright or Senator Obama. I know you would like to make it against Rev.Wright, but he is not a candidate for President.

Senator Clinton is running for President and she has endorsed War Monger McCain as being qualified to be Commander in Chief, ahead of Peace candidate Obama of her own party.

That makes Senator Clinton still a war enabler. If she truly wants to see the Iraq War, which she voted for, ended, she could never state that the man who wishes to continue Bush's Iraq War would make a great Commander in Chief.

I don't care about which gender is in charge. I do care that there is only one true Peace Candidate. Senator Clinton voted for the Iraq War, and late last year she voted for the Kyl/Lieberman ploy to attack Iran.

Now she endorses War Monger McCain ahead of Democrat Obama. That makes Senator Clinton a traitor to her own party.

Hillary is the new Lieberman.

Reverend Wright served in the Marines. Bill Clinton avoided the draft. I think that Reverend Wright has already put his life on the line to defend America.

Is Senator Clinton running against Rev. Wright or Senator Obama. I know you would like to make it against Rev.Wright, but he is not a candidate for President.

Senator Clinton is running for President and she has endorsed War Monger McCain as being qualified to be Commander in Chief, ahead of Peace candidate Obama of her own party.

That makes Senator Clinton still a war enabler. If she truly wants to see the Iraq War, which she voted for, ended, she could never state that the man who wishes to continue Bush's Iraq War would make a great Commander in Chief.

I don't care about which gender is in charge. I do care that there is only one true Peace Candidate. Senator Clinton voted for the Iraq War, and late last year she voted for the Kyl/Lieberman ploy to attack Iran.

Now she endorses War Monger McCain ahead of Democrat Obama. That makes Senator Clinton a traitor to her own party.

Hillary is the new Lieberman.

Well, she has nothing to lose.

This kind of action is the only way she could win the nomination. She will stop at nothing.

Wright will not be her pastor and she won't be my President.

PS: Some jerk on TV was just now stating that this is good politics because it diverts from her Bosnia troubles. But I think this is good filth.

Good politics is doing good for the People.

Who -IS -Hillary Clinton, Oh Yeah, Thats that white lady who USED to be First Lady until Bill found Monica, than she became Second Lady, And now she thinks that is a ticket to the BLACK (Formerly -WHITE-) House. No way lady, do the math- for you there is no path ! You say you'll win, but that's just spin. We look at you, and what we see is the reason for our victory ! You are NOT a good person Hillary, we KNOW what you did !

Holy shit she's reading from a fucking script. This is totally over. Obama's going to slay her for it and the supers will go over to him immediately. It's one way thing to stay mum on the absurd attacks being thrown at Obama right now. It's cowardly when the Clintons as much as anyone understand absurd personal attacks. But it's obscene to drag this up again because she'd rather questionable, hashed out attacks lead the evening news instead of her stupid gaff regarding Bosnia. Which, you'll note, neither Obama nor his staff has really done much at all to push.

I was 99% sure Hillary had decided to go the route of Huckabee and play nice in public while waging a strong campaign till she couldn't win mathematically and hope that something happened in the interim where she could take it. I thought evidence to the contrary from her campaign was just poor message control. Wups.

Gotten up and walked away just like I did when Bill cheated on me for the umpteenth time. Oh, wait, I stayed around for political gain, that's right.

Why is it negative for Hillary to respond? Race is such a touchy issue. As a white person I could never have gotten away with saying any of those things that Obama's pastor said in church. Why is it that we must somehow understand his comments? Why must we understand why Obama chose only to distance himself from some of those comments? Are we saying that racism against whites is acceptable? Is Obama implying this? To me that is like saying that racism is evil when practiced by whites against blacks, but excusable when practiced by blacks against whites. Obama's speech was brilliant, and he delivered it in a calm manner. But it was a deflection. It was designed to quell a political firestorm. And now attempts are being made to turn Hillary's remarks into what? A racist attack?

I say it again. If Clinton's pastor, or McCain's pastor had preached the kind of stuff that Obama's pastor has preached, there would be no question. It would be condemned, and Clinton or McCain would be condemned at the very least for not getting up and walking out of his church for good. Had they delivered a speech twice as eloquent as the one Obama delivered, it still would not have been enough. African Americans and whites alike would be outraged.

Like it or not, Obama has been sullied by this, and it will be used against him. Don't expect the Republicans to be kind or understanding. They are going to be brutal. This hits at a central pillar of Obama's popularity - his image as a uniter - especially his image as someone who can transcend America's racial divide.

If you want to attack Hillery for saying that she would not have remained in his church, ok. But the Republican attack will be far, far worse. And remember, this is not a bogus issue. One may disagree with some of what one's pastor says, but Jeremiah Wright was far more than just a pastor to Barack Obama. Obama simply can not disassociate himself from Wright, which is why he didn't even try.

I understand the anger from my fellow posters.

On the other hand I am glad Hillbilly did this.
If I may steal and twist a line from a poster here:

THIS IS BAD NEWS FOR HILLARY!!!

This will rebound and stain her deeply. She has gone from being a lame duck candidate to being simply a lame dead duck.

Hillary Clinton: Working Hard to Elect John McCain

Hillary makes a perfectly reasonable comment about her taste in pastors and Josh Marshall presses the panic button. Deep down he knows that political math trumps Obama math.

Obama + Wright = President McCain.

Please stop this woman now. Tell her she can stay in the race until she is trounced in North Carolina, but let her know that every time she says a word about Obama's pastor, Obama's unreadiness, and Obama's inferiority to McCain she is sinking the party's chances in November. Thank you.

And if she wins? Perhaps you could be concerned with the daily "kitchen sink" attacks from Obama's camp? You'd think asking the Atlantic to snoop into Bill Clinton's sex life, Secret One World Order Bible Study Group associations, calling them tax cheats, racists, unelectable, untrustworthy, devisive, etc actually might hurt her chances in Nov.

Never knew the party was half filled with with supremely hypocritical whiny snots.

Sigh. Well, she just helped me make an important and dispassionate decision. If she wins the nomination by exploiting this Wright story the way the right-wingers have, I will not vote for her in the fall. I'm convinced that if the Democratic Party tolerates and enables this stragegy, it will be ruinous. I fear she is now "burning the house down."

I wish she hadn't gone this far.

I can well understand why Hillary would not attend Rev. Wright's church. After all he was asked to the White House to witness her humiliation when Bill confessed his sins publicly.

But now get to watch her own humiliation as she parses words to show she is not making a personal attack on Obama. It is as effective as Bill's "is" statement once was.

She is going to lose not just the nomination but now the respect of a great majority of Democrats.

This is a sad day to be a Democrat.

Of course Hillary would have abandoned Rev. Wright because she wouldn't take the chance of doing anything that isn't polticially expedient. She would probably abandon her own daughter if it would advance her ambitions.

Had enough?

The Obama campaign's response was spot on, hopefully if the media mentions her attempts to exploit the Wright issue they will also give the Obama response.

Why is it negative for Hillary to respond? Race is such a touchy issue. As a white person I could never have gotten away with saying any of those things that Obama's pastor said in church.

I can only think that very few of you are from the south because it's increasingly clear to me that not one of you understands about African American churches, the role they play in African American society, how important they are to the communities and just what Black Liberation theology is about. I'm no expert - I don't care that much because I'm not religious. I'm also not black, but I do understand something that I keep seeing totally missed by people - even Josh is questioning Wright's past sermons and statements.

People, do not do this. You could not make a bigger mistake. Please, get some information on the church in the African American community before any of you says another word about it. It's really important - ok? Don't make us look any dumber than we already look with our total "huh?" reaction to Rev. Wright.

You just don't attack the church or an African American minister for saying things you as a white person, think are "loony" because things are said that white people really don't want to hear because the church has been the only place in the past where such things could be talked about.

This really needs to stop. Either let's talk honestly about race in America or stop this right now.

Well what happened to the separation of church and state? What business is it of Hillary's or anyone else's what church Obama attends? And why is no one reporting that it took a lawsuit and the FOI Act to get those First Lady records released? And of course we're still waiting for her tax returns. If she has nothing to hide, why does she keep hiding and prevaricating - oh and lying about her foreign policy adventures? So much for her saying she was going to focus on the issues.

What part of "what I would do" don't people understand in that she was stating what she would do. She didn't mention Obama's name that I am aware of nor did she bring this up on her own. I think there is enough to be critical of her without inventing stuff.

If she wins the nomination by exploiting this Wright story the way the right-wingers have, I will not vote for her in the fall.

O I would give anything if she'd shut up now, and I'm getting more and more angry.

But - I will vote for her if she's the nominee.

I do not want McCain in the White House or putting justices on the Supreme Court.

Why the Wright-Clinton photo matters

Here's what the Wright-Clinton photo means:

1) Wright is not a fringe figure, but a mainstream black church leader. Thus the FoxNews/ABCNews smear campaign consisting of 15 sec clips mixed together is shown to be a lie, and a BIG LIE.

2) Clinton KNEW Wright, and Wright helped Clinton when he was in trouble with Monica. Now that Wright is being smeared by ABCNews and FoxNews, Clinton sits in cowardly silence, never defending him from these attacks.

If Clinton had any honor, he would have stepped up and said Wright is a good man and the 15 sec splice and dice video smears (from garbage peddler ABC) are NOT ACCURATE.

In essence, Wright saved Bill when the GOP was attacking him, but the Clintons TURNED THEIR BACKS on Wright when he is under assault.

http://truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com

In case you missed it...Just Embellished Words: Senator Obama’s Record of Exaggerations & Misstatements
Once again, the Obama campaign is getting caught saying one thing while doing another. They are personally attacking Hillary even though Sen. Obama has been found mispeaking and embellishing facts about himself more than ten times in recent months. Senator Obama’s campaign is based on words –not a record of deeds – and if those words aren’t backed up by facts, there’s not much else left.

"Senator Obama has called himself a constitutional professor, claimed credit for passing legislation that never left committee, and apparently inflated his role as a community organizer among other issues. When it comes to his record, just words won't do. Senator Obama will have to use facts as well," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said.

Sen. Obama consistently and falsely claims that he was a law professor. The Sun-Times reported that, "Several direct-mail pieces issued for Obama's primary [Senate] campaign said he was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He is not. He is a senior lecturer (now on leave) at the school. In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles. Details matter." In academia, there's a significant difference: professors have tenure while lecturers do not. [Hotline Blog, 4/9/07; Chicago Sun-Times, 8/8/04]

Obama claimed credit for nuclear leak legislation that never passed. "Obama scolded Exelon and federal regulators for inaction and introduced a bill to require all plant owners to notify state and local authorities immediately of even small leaks. He has boasted of it on the campaign trail, telling a crowd in Iowa in December that it was 'the only nuclear legislation that I’ve passed.' 'I just did that last year,' he said, to murmurs of approval. A close look at the path his legislation took tells a very different story. While he initially fought to advance his bill, even holding up a presidential nomination to try to force a hearing on it, Mr. Obama eventually rewrote it to reflect changes sought by Senate Republicans, Exelon and nuclear regulators. The new bill removed language mandating prompt reporting and simply offered guidance to regulators, whom it charged with addressing the issue of unreported leaks. Those revisions propelled the bill through a crucial committee. But, contrary to Mr. Obama’s comments in Iowa, it ultimately died amid parliamentary wrangling in the full Senate." [New York Times, 2/2/08]

Obama misspoke about his being conceived because of Selma. "Mr. Obama relayed a story of how his Kenyan father and his Kansan mother fell in love because of the tumult of Selma, but he was born in 1961, four years before the confrontation at Selma took place. When asked later, Mr. Obama clarified himself, saying: 'I meant the whole civil rights movement.'" [New York Times, 3/5/07]

LA Times: Fellow organizers say Sen. Obama took too much credit for his community organizing efforts. "As the 24-year-old mentor to public housing residents, Obama says he initiated and led efforts that thrust Altgeld's asbestos problem into the headlines, pushing city officials to call hearings and a reluctant housing authority to start a cleanup. But others tell the story much differently. They say Obama did not play the singular role in the asbestos episode that he portrays in the best-selling memoir 'Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.' Credit for pushing officials to deal with the cancer-causing substance, according to interviews and news accounts from that period, also goes to a well-known preexisting group at Altgeld Gardens and to a local newspaper called the Chicago Reporter. Obama does not mention either one in his book." [Los Angeles Times, 2/19/07]

Chicago Tribune: Obama's assertion that nobody had indications Rezko was engaging in wrongdoing 'strains credulity.' "…Obama has been too self-exculpatory. His assertion in network TV interviews last week that nobody had indications Rezko was engaging in wrongdoing strains credulity: Tribune stories linked Rezko to questionable fundraising for Gov. Rod Blagojevich in 2004 -- more than a year before the adjacent home and property purchases by the Obamas and the Rezkos." [Chicago Tribune editorial, 1/27/08]

Obama was forced to revise his assertion that lobbyists 'won't work in my White House.' "White House hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was forced to revise a critical stump line of his on Saturday -- a flat declaration that lobbyists 'won't work in my White House' after it turned out his own written plan says they could, with some restrictions… After being challenged on the accuracy of what he has been saying -- in contrast to his written pledge -- at a news conference Saturday in Waterloo, Obama immediately softened what had been his hard line in his next stump speech." [Chicago Sun-Times, 12/16/07]

FactCheck.org: 'Selective, embellished and out-of-context quotes from newspapers pump up Obama's health plan.' "Obama's ad touting his health care plan quotes phrases from newspaper articles and an editorial, but makes them sound more laudatory and authoritative than they actually are. It attributes to The Washington Post a line saying Obama's plan would save families about $2,500. But the Post was citing the estimate of the Obama campaign and didn't analyze the purported savings independently. It claims that "experts" say Obama's plan is "the best." "Experts" turn out to be editorial writers at the Iowa City Press-Citizen – who, for all their talents, aren't actual experts in the field. It quotes yet another newspaper saying Obama's plan "guarantees coverage for all Americans," neglecting to mention that, as the article makes clear, it's only Clinton's and Edwards' plans that would require coverage for everyone, while Obama's would allow individuals to buy in if they wanted to.” [FactCheck.org, 1/3/08]

Sen. Obama said 'I passed a law that put Illinois on a path to universal coverage,' but Obama health care legislation merely set up a task force. "As a state senator, I brought Republicans and Democrats together to pass legislation insuring 20,000 more children. And 65,000 more adults received health care…And I passed a law that put Illinois on a path to universal coverage." The State Journal-Register reported in 2004 that "The [Illinois State] Senate squeaked out a controversial bill along party lines Wednesday to create a task force to study health-care reform in Illinois. […] In its original form, the bill required the state to offer universal health care by 2007. That put a 'cloud' over the legislation, said Sen. Dale Righter, R-Mattoon. Under the latest version, the 29-member task force would hold at least five public hearings next year." [Obama Health Care speech, 5/29/07; State Journal-Register, 5/20/04]

ABC News: 'Obama…seemed to exaggerate the legislative progress he made' on ethics reform. "ABC News' Teddy Davis Reports: During Monday's Democratic presidential debate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., seemed to exaggerate the legislative progress he has made on disclosure of "bundlers," those individuals who aggregate their influence with the candidate they support by collecting $2,300 checks from a wide network of wealthy friends and associates. When former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel alleged that Obama had 134 bundlers, Obama responded by telling Gravel that the reason he knows how many bundlers he has raising money for him is "because I helped push through a law this past session to disclose that." Earlier this year, Obama sponsored an amendment [sic] in the Senate requiring lobbyists to disclose the candidates for whom they bundle. Obama's amendment would not, however, require candidates to release the names of their bundlers. What's more, although Obama's amendment was agreed to in the Senate by unanimous consent, the measure never became law as Obama seemed to suggest. Gravel and the rest of the public know how many bundlers Obama has not because of a 'law' that the Illinois Democrat has 'pushed through' but because Obama voluntarily discloses that information." [ABC News, a=href"http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/07/obama-exaggerat.html">7/23/07]

Obama drastically overstated Kansas tornado deaths during campaign appearance. "When Sen. Barack Obama exaggerated the death toll of the tornado in Greensburg, Kan, during his visit to Richmond yesterday, The Associated Press headline rapidly evolved from 'Obama visits former Confederate capital for fundraiser’ to ‘Obama rips Bush on Iraq war at Richmond fundraiser' to 'Weary Obama criticizes Bush on Iraq, drastically overstates Kansas tornado death toll' to 'Obama drastically overstates Kansas tornado deaths during campaign appearance.' Drudge made it a banner, ensuring no reporter would miss it." [politico.com, 5/9/07]

If we are going to hold who Obama chooses to associate with against him, the same should apply to Hillary Clinton. While Obama does not share Wright's more controversial views, Hillary Clinton does share a number of views with the members of the religious right who she chooses to associate with:

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3070

Rev. Wright is a legitimate target for the same purpose. And militant Barackists have NO ONE to blame for this, but Obama himself.

Ok, it's your funeral. And the Democratic party's.

Maybe someone should ask her if she would have accepted the endorsement of Hagee (the anti-every-denomination-he-isn't) who claims all catholics are evil, etc. And would she have accepted an invitation to speak at Jerry Falwell's school, in light of his comments right after 9/11, blaming gays, feminists and others for the attack?

And, Bill's a Baptist, I think. Is she? Does she think, like Huckabee, that the Constitution should be changed to comply with Baptist dogma?

Does she even go to chruch? (Not that I care, but since it seems to be an issue, what are her beliefs?)

What racism against whites are you talking about?

Senator Clinton certainly has a long history of holding people in her life accountable.

Let it go Hillary, let it go.

You can think whatever you want about Wright. Go to his church. Call him your "moral compass." Consider him your spiritual guide. Write a book about him. Heap lavish praise on him whenever you can, to as many people.

But don't bother wasting everyone's time and money running for president of the United States of America in the year 2008. And you certainly shouldn't waste everyones time if you are so politically tone deaf or lack the commonsense to give the bigot an official position on your presidential campaign.

Don't bother..because you don't stand a snow ball's chance in hell of actually winning in Novemeber.

FACT: You can't win an election with just black people, white latte liberals and yuppies.

What racism against whites are you talking about?

Do I really have to point out how absurd that is? How in the hell can white people be discriminated against in a society they formed, they wrote the rules for, and they rule and have ruled for 200+ years?

Where does this insane notion come from of "racism against whites"?

I don't get this one. Usually I can at least see what the echo chamber is whining about. But what did she do now? She didn't say he should leave his church and pastor. She said she would have. What if someone asked you that direct question? How would you answer it?

If you were a member of Wright's church and you learned he had given sermons in which he said god damn America, chickens coming home to roost, would you stay with the Church or leave?

Finally, and I really don't know whether this is true or not, did Oprah really leave Wright's church? If so, did she say why? I've noticed she's not said anything about this flap.

Damn I'm amazed by the extremism of viewpoints.

HRC has in fact got quite a bit of experience. She's also exaggerated some of it. BO has a year or whatever in the senate and some Illinois political time. That doesn't of course mean he's not ably suited for the presidency.

But all this freakin' "pathological liar" bs and people ranting that they'll jump ship to McCain if HRC miraculously gets the nod and the handwringing of 'this is the last straw' just drives me batty.

This is all just minor politics. If you are so overwrought that you think some embellishment about snipers - and I can't believe anyone thinks HRC could be so dumb as to expect that she could calculate to say it without it being noticed, particularly when she was already on record with the real truth in her book - or underestimating financial advantage from a real estate deal a la Rezko is enough respectively that you would wash your hands of either candidate then, with respect to either side in this Dem. race, you are completely and utterly insane.

It also amazes me that it's what? 25% of Dems saying they won't vote for the other one if their choice doesn't get the nod?!!!?!! Insanity of the first order.

Never forget the Supreme Court when you go to cast a ballot for McCain, thinking you are raising the finger to HRC or BO because your choice didn't get up.

In think it is now safe to say...

...Hillary took the red pill.

Honestly, has anyone else noticed that the blogosphere is full of whiny Obama supporters? They're absolutely everywhere. You just don't see thousands and thousands of crybaby posts from supporters of the other candidates.

Okay, so what's big bad Hillary done to poor little Obama now? Is she actually suggesting that he assume some responsibility for having a radical ignorant hate-monger as his mentor for 20 years?

It also amazes me that it's what? 25% of Dems saying they won't vote for the other one if their choice doesn't get the nod?!!!?!! Insanity of the first orde

Ask again in October. That's just right now and has about as much meaning as the polls do this far out.

And just for the record - this past weekend, there were Clinton supporters posting all over the internet their intention to support McCain if Hilary didn't the nomination.

So there ya go - neither side has a patent on that threat, but I first saw it from Clinton supporters this past weekend. I saw the first threat on Burntorangereport, out of Austin, Tx, and then I started looking, and they were everywhere.

But I don't agree with it, whoever says it. In the end, the enemy is the Republican party and we need to remember that, I agree.

Hillary Clinton has gone completely around the bend.

Apparently, the prayer breakfast Wright attended at the White House in 1998 was photographed. Guess who was seated next to Hillary Clinton?

Yes. Of course.

As an African-American and as a pastor, I consider the Clinton campaign to have launched an attack against the black church. I am quite sure I am not the only person who will see this situation the same way. Chickens will indeed come home to roost in ways the Clinton campaign will be sorry to see, both sooner and later.

Sooner could come as early as the North Carolina primary. Later will come when she runs for re-election to the Senate in New York. She is burning bridges that cannot be rebuilt.

I hope that the meme that Hillary is in it for herself, for 2012, starts getting picked up in the media. I doubt it will, but I hope it does.

The thing is, though, is that she's not going away. EVER. Even when Obama is finally named as the Democratic Nominee, which will hopefully be sometime soon...(And I doubt we'll even hear any sort of concession speech from her at all)...she's not going away. She's going to still be there, behind the scenes, trying to tear him down. That's actually what I'm afraid of most. Right now, she has to stand in front of us, in front of the cameras and campaign for herself. Once she's forced out of the spotlight, and goes back behind the scenes, that's what I'm really worried about, because whatever she does or reveals about Obama, she really won't have to answer for it. I'm mean, right now, she's lying, making up stories, throwing kitchen sinks, placing blame on others, etc, etc....can you imagine what she'll be like when she doesn't have to get in front of us on a daily basis.

As from the story:

"...her suggestion that Obama should have left Wright's church."

How bad would an Obama response as follows be:

Her ability to judge why I would stay in the church is as useless as my conjecturing on why someone would stay in a marraige with a serial adulterer. Unless you've been there and walked in their shoes, it's impossible to say what someone else should do.

This monster is going to run as an Indie. Just watch.

This latest tack of theirs, it seems as though
they are now laying the groundwork for a campaign in 2012, assisting McCain over Obama this November.

We care what this bald faced liar says because...?

Stop and consider what has been revealed about Hillary through her Bosnia Sniper story. She told a very vivid detailed story of how she ran through a sniper gauntlet. She even disputed Sinbad's version, which has since been proven to be true.

Hillary now says that she misspoke or got confused, or got it mixed up with some other sniper experience that she never endured either.

It now comes down to only one of two options: Either Hillary is lying or she is delusional.

If you give her the benefit of the doubt, then you have to conclude that she actually believed that the event actually happened as she described it.

We now know that it did not, so there is a reasonable chance that Hillary may actually not have a very firm grip on reality. In other words, she may be delusional.

Do you really want someone like that answering the Red Phone, and responding from a memory bank of false recollections, that she is convinced actually happened.

We are talking about the Commander in Chief position here folks, with all the awesome powers of War and Peace that position controls.

What if Hillary does not really have a firm grasp on reality. Her Bosnia Fairy Tale could lead reasonable people to conclude that might just be the case.

Most people see Obama for the hack he is:

http://www.slate.com/id/2187277/pagenum/all/

It's only the militant Barackists who keep imposing their will on other people and intimidating anyone who dares to oppose them.

Stupid, stupid move, Senator Clinton.

The reason Obama keeps pointing out that Bill Clinton used Wright at the tearful "black ministers, rehab my credibility, after telling a huge lie on national television" breakfast is because the Clintons DID use Wright.

Used him, and now throw him away. Wright was THERE for Bill Clinton, and this is how they reward him!

For Clinton to now throw Wright under the bus is a huge betrayal.

The Clintons. There when they need you.

Hardball is doing a nice job exposing her lies about her opposition to NAFTA.

Bill Burton's disappointing dig about dodging:

it’s disappointing to see Hillary Clinton’s campaign sink to