Do we eat here or at the next place?

He said that the Wright comments raised "a legitimate question."

Repeating any question does make it is legitimate it appears.

Another Power play, here!

This is a campaign of opportunistic political whores. Where is the leadership of the Democratic party to put a stop to this?

Still staying classy, I see.

I'm truly sorry to see the Clintons doing this. There's no good to come from it. None. She already has a big lead in PA, so what's the point? To get North Carolina? Indiana? What?

Crash and burn, and bring the rest of the party with you, Hillary.

When's the last time Niall O'Dowd stood up and even asked Hillary Clinton about something he disagreed with?

Like, never.

Greg, will you be posting the radio interview Hillary gave today where she said she hasn't mis-spoke for 12 years, yet there are FOUR counts of her on the campaign trail mis-remembering the sniper incident?

Just wondering...

yep, a Hillary Clinton White House would be a very
classy group indeed. They would make us all very proud.

I wonder, has she contributed dollars to the McCain campaign or just supplied Swift Boat talking points to help
him get elected over Mr. Obama?

They just had to keep throw this back into the public consciousness ONE MORE TIME... Enough already!!

Something very strange just happened. Drudge put Hillary's attempt to revive Wright on the top of his page, but after about 15 minutes, he buried it down in the body, well below other stories. It's almost like the muckiest of muckrackers just said: "Not this time."

I really can't see how Obama supporters can claim to be uniters if they can't see the other point of view.

This could make for one odd family reunion: Barack Obama is a distant cousin of actor Brad Pitt, and Hillary Rodham Clinton is related to Pitt's girlfriend, Angelina Jolie.

Researchers at the New England Historic Genealogical Society found some remarkable family connections for the three presidential candidates — Democratic rivals Obama and Clinton, and Republican John McCain.

Clinton, who is of French-Canadian descent on her mother's side, is also a distant cousin of singers Madonna, Celine Dion and Alanis Morissette. Obama, the son of a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya, can call six U.S. presidents, including George W. Bush, his cousins. McCain is a sixth cousin of first lady Laura Bush.

Genealogist Christopher Child said that while the candidates often focus on pointing out differences between them, their ancestry shows they are more alike than they think.

"It shows that lots of different people can be related, people you wouldn't necessarily expect," Child said.

Obama has a prolific presidential lineage that features Democrats and Republicans. His distant cousins include President George W. Bush and his father, George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Harry S. Truman and James Madison. Other Obama cousins include Vice President Dick Cheney, British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill and Civil War General Robert E. Lee.

"His kinships are across the political spectrum," Child said.

Child has spent the last three years tracing the candidates' genealogy, along with senior research scholar Gary Boyd Roberts, author of the 1989 book, "Ancestors of American Presidents."

Clinton's distant cousins include beatnik author Jack Kerouac and Camilla Parker-Bowles, wife of Prince Charles of England.

McCain's ancestry was more difficult to trace because records on his relatives were not as complete as records for the families of Obama and Clinton, Child said.

Obama and President Bush are 10th cousins, once removed, linked by Samuel Hinkley of Cape Cod, who died in 1662.

Pitt and Obama are ninth cousins, linked by Edwin Hickman, who died in Virginia in 1769.

Clinton and Jolie are ninth cousins, twice removed, both related to Jean Cusson who died in St. Sulpice, Quebec, in 1718.

The New England Historic Genealogical Society, founded in 1845, is the oldest and largest nonprofit genealogical organization in the country.

*** I found the above information on yahoo...... well if obama and bush are 10th cousins, that realllllllllly sucks, its like putting another bush in the white house again.

Aren't there any e-mail id's for the so called fu--king party elders, so that we gatecrash them to move their collective fat and quivering asses ? What a bunch of lily-livered poltroons ?

Pathetic. The desperation is simply pathetic.

Maybe it was because Obama wasn't around when Wright said those things? Also could be because if you watch the actual videos, in context, instead of just the sensationalized Fox News smear clips, nothing he said was all that out there:

http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/03/in-defense-of-rev-wright.html

To put it simply, the Hillary campaign is shameless. They just can't get enough of using right-wing smears, which is pretty pathetic given that both McCain and Huckabee have defended Obama. Also pretty pathetic given Hillary's own sketchy church associations:

http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/03/hillarys-own-church-problem-plot.html

May I ask, Why are you guys helping revive this BS? You need to call for release of her income tax. Talk about her lying about Bosnia.

And how did Obama use race exactly? At no point did he do anything that could be construed as exploiting race one way or another. Give me a break. I'm so sick of so many Democrats showing that they are nothing but hacks.

Sinbad! Welcome back, I've missed you!

As for the above, to paraphrase Bill the Cat "Phfffpt!"

What I find interesting is the "he worshiped this man" comment. While it's a figure of speech outside the context of religion, within in the context of religion the implication is that Obama worships a man rather than (or in addition to) God, making him a heretic (or whatever they call it these days). Cast a little further and Wright becomes Satan and Obama the anti-Christ.

And thus does the frustration and fury of Hillary and her minions that this has not brought him down finally comes oozing up through the muck.

Does anyone with a brain still question that they are the "rival campaign" that pushed this story out to the MSM? And does anyone not notice the remarkable, indeed, downright eerie, similarity between what this doofus said when he thought he couldn't be overheard in America and what Hillary's totally-not-affiliated-in-any-way-with-the-campaign supporters have been saying here in post after post after post after post here at TPM?

Yes, they were all very slick and clever. Got their BFF's at ABC and Fox onto this very important story without leaving any fingerprints and then sat back and cackled like a comic book villian who at last has that insufferably resiliant hero in an unbreakable trap. But, wouldn't you know it, he once again got out of their deathtrap, turned it into a moral and political triumph and once again thwarted their infallible plan for global domination. And now that their beautiful plan has come crashing down in ruins, we get the inevitable inabiity to leave it be and move on to the next plot. No, now comes the inevitable descent into nihilism--push the big red button marked "Destruct" while screaming "You will never beat me! I'll bring this entire mountain down on both of us, before I let that happen!"

I would say that this makes me likely to stay home and not vote if Hillary won the nomination; however, I luckily can avoid saying that, since there is absolutely no chance of her winning this race. All she's doing is mucking up her already mucked-up "legacy" of inaction and cynical "triangulation".

Clinton problem here is the assumption that the code is understood by all, I suspect Duke is not widely known as O'Dowd suggest and his accent does not help. This will not ignite the issues on Wright, the legitimate question line will ignite Bush, Rove, etc.

The subtext of this election is Bush, not race. Clinton has been trying since January to make it race, and will continue to achieve what she has earned to date.

Blujig - this BS is being revived because people other than in the very left blogosphere and those who listen to Air American - are still talking about it. It's still affecting their psyches.

We should just do something very very novel - which is to allow people to vote (c'mon, if were offended by the Republicans who disenfranchised people to win, then , let's not act like them).

Historically, people have marched for their voting rights - so let's see what PA, KY, IN, NC, PR, OR and others say about the Wright controversy. If it hasn't affected how they view Obama, then, he's the better candidate - he wins. If his popularity and "momentum" has stopped and he sinks, then, we know he's not viable in the GE.

Democracy is great. Support it.

How can Hillary like Obama's speech, and then come out with this line of BS? Oh, because she's Hillary, that's why.

She trying to secure the bi-polar vote again.

"*** I found the above information on yahoo...... well if obama and bush are 10th cousins, that realllllllllly sucks, its like putting another bush in the white house again."

I laughed so hard at this I dropped what I was holding and nearly started to hyperventilate.

Clinton/Madonna '08

It is time for Pelosi, Gore, Edwards ..time for you and time for me to show that harpy the door

Flush her

So much for Marshall's mush-mouth middle sermons

Stop whining, children. If Obama is grown-up enough to be President, then he - and all members of his cult - should be grown-up enough to deal with it when things don't go according to the little American Idol script.

Obama brings this on himself by trying to pretend he has no more choice of pastors than he does of his "typical white people" version of a grandmother. He does have a choice, one he has consistently gone with for almost 2 decades now. If it blows up in his face, too bad. Choices have consequences. Isn't it better he learns that now, rathar than once he's in over his head in the Oval Office?

Freakin' amateur hour.

How long must we wait for Obama & Co. to rub Doug Coe in Hillary's face? Come on, Barack, it's long past the time when you should have trotted this out for the American public, and you don't have all that much time left to mess around here being high-minded.

For Hillary to utter one peep about Wright when she is a devotee of this slime Doug Coe is just, well, it's so "Hillary." What a disgraceful human being she is.

"Hillary's exit strategy begins. Pennsylvania is last best chance to kneecap Obama. She begins campaigning for 2012 as Obama limps into the general election."

But Hillary will be finished after this. She has no political future because Democrats will not forget this.

Oh, yeah?

STAINED DRESS!!! STAINED DRESS!!! STAINED DRESS!!! STAINED DRESS!!! STAINED DRESS!!! STAINED DRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now! Now! Now!

Now the heads of the party need to start figuring this out!

Obama weathered that storm perfectly and for her to now go after it is absolute proof of scorched earth. This is it. Right here. She's officially determined to make the Democratic front-runner unelectable. This is an admission of such.

Everyday Gore and Edwards sit silently by I lose more and more respect for them. By no means am I asking either of them to endorse Obama, but is it too much to expect them to speak up and say, "Enough is enough"?... Apparently so.

Look at it this way, everybody: If THAT is her best shot at Obama, after the speech he gave, then this race is essentially over. It only means they have no better arrows left to use and desperately try to reanimate what wouldn't live on otherwise.

Will this approach gain her any leverage with superdelegates, her only hope left? I mean, for real? I don't think so. Therefore, the "scorched earth, try again in 2012" theory looks more and more credible.

In other words, if the leaders of the Democratic Party don't intervene, they will carry a large share of the responsibility for a potential loss in the GE.

I used to think Howard Dean was pretty good. At this point I think he's a failure for not having brought this whole thing to closure.

He has a party to protect; far as I can see he's dropped the ball horribly.

The only thing I can think is (1) that the campaign got back some really, really bad internals on the whole Bosnia thing, or (2) the appropriate response when in lockdown is to attack, or (3) both.

I think I pick 3.

The Clinton campaign appears to be becoming increasingly desperate. She's called out on a lie, the media is giving it attention, and she is trying to divert attention from it. The MSM is also giving some attention to the fact that she has virtually no chance of winning. A new poll shows her ahead by only 10% in PA. So she is again searching for an issue to bring him down. Obama's speech last week was ground breaking, eloquent, and extremely well received. He explained himself and Rev. Wright. The polls showed people were receptive and were trying to understand a complex issue. Now she is trying to push it into the limelight, and force Obama to address the issue again and again.
She is doing a grave disservice to the Democratic Party, and makes me think that she is being extremely selfish and self-serving.

This thread is up for an hour. Strange that Greg Sargent has not even promised to seek a comment about what O'Dowd said, from the Clinton Camp.

Why not?

Interesting how the Irish interviewer had a different take on some of the Wright comments about the historical points like the atom bomb. It's not a hard sell in much of Europe to say that America is hypocritical in how it treats much of the rest of the world.

All of the "objectionable" Wright quotes that I've seen talk about racism in government or society--systematic or institutional, rather than being of the nature of "white devils" or "kill whitey." He says America is controlled by rich white men, and America does bad things. I haven't seen him say that whites are bad.

CPR: Clinton Punditry Resuscitation.

Wake up, pundits! Hillary's got some more stuff for you to argue over while this country - and this primary battle - goes to shit.

So maybe Obama needs to bring up the point that, in the same way Hillary wouldn't have stuck with Rev, Wright, he wouldn't have stuck with an unfaithful husband for so many years.

shit, do i have to go to PA now to help shut her down? i was hoping to avoid that. oh well, ROAD TRIP!

Obama using race where it suits him? No way, you mean this Harvard grad candidate while campaigning in front of a Black audience in South Carolina used the words "Okey Doke, Bamboozled, and Hoodwinked"? Say it isn't so.

Well, I'm Bush's ninth and twelfth cousin, and I haven't committed any war crimes or tortured anybody. (I'm also FDR's cousin, and I can't avert the looming depression, alas.) So don't worry about Obama's relations.

Has Hillary no shame? Well, we know the answer to that one already.

Listen to Jeremiah Wright's "chickens coming home to roost" and "God damn America" sermons in full. Virtually every claim of fact he makes is absolutely true. (Obama can't say that, of course.) He is in the prophetic tradition, calling his country to account for its sins like the Israelite prophets of the Old Testament. And listen to his sermon "The Audacity to (not of) Hope." It is truly beautiful.

To compare him to Duke is an obscenity.

Curious how Obama's folks will react. I say ignore it. Time to act like the frontrunner. Hillary's on the ropes. Just shake your heads and move along. No one wants to see someone embarrass themselves like this. It's just sad.

From day one, I doubt that Barack Obama ever expected to win over hard-core racists. I have no idea of whether the Wright matter itself will make much difference, should Obama become the nominee. Race itself would be an issue and if it was not Wright, some other excuse would be find to activate it.

For the life of me, I do not understand why the Clinton campaign is placing so much emphasis on personal attacks either on herself or by her. It would be appropriate to respond to one made face-to-face by another candidate.

Maybe I'm not paying close enough attention but I do not think this is standard operating procedure for any presidential candidate and, when it occurs, it is usually done by supporters, organized or not, rather than the campaign itself. If they are acknowledged at all, isn't a "Is that the best you can do?" shrug the way to handle it? Why take the bait?

Perhaps my confusion will clarified as time passes but for now this looks like a very poor and ill-advised strategy.

Correction and amplification.

What, exactly, has he said that indicates he thinks blacks are genetically and culturally superior to whites, have a God-given right to subjegate then and constrain their of political and economic rights and, if they deem fit, kill them on a whim? That's "racist." That's what the Klan does. That's what David Dukes did.

What Wright did was, during seven minutes of his career, state that America's foreign policy was sinful and that blacks had a right to be angry that white people were crapping on them. You can take issue with both of those statements, and Obama did, but comparing that to the ideology of the Klan (and the official policy of many state and local governments until about 1970), is deranged.

Christopher Hitchens, Charles Krauthammer, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Bill n Hillary Clinton didn't wind up on top of the same fence post at the same time by accident

This is the War Party's doing and it is every bit as vile as it was before Bush accomplished the Clintons' Mission

The Clinton's are so obviously desperate to keep this story alive.

The Clinton's refuse to die with anything resembling dignity.

It is time not only for the Clintons to go...It is time for their penny-ante shills to take a hike as well

KLEEFELD FOR EDITOR

This morning David Brooks put a 5% chance on Hillary's nomination

Opening line tomorrow morning heading for PowerBall odds

Thank you for this post. It inspired me. To donate another $50 to Barack.

Well, it's late afternoon and so far the MSM hasn't picked up Clinton's Wright comments (at least not on their websites). MSNBC is still leading with the Bosnia talk, CNN's lead is about McCain taking advantage of the Dems still fighting for the nomination, The Wash Post is talking about Bill's "evolving" role, Fox leads with Obama's tax returns. So HRC's attempts to turn the talk back to Wright haven't worked (yet).

Hillary's whole campaign is acting like a bunch of fucking white supremecists at this point. How on earth can someone be so stupid as to equate a preacher angrily condemning racism with people who believe in the inherent inferiority of black people? Its not even that these people are just merely incompetent - they're dumb. And very poorly educated. Is this the kind of 'talent' Hillary will bring to the White House?

It's been clear for some time now that the Clinton campaign is dying and knows it. They will do ANYTHING to keep the nomination race alive and, sadly, their stamp-your-feet tantrum will linger LONG in the memory.

It seems lately there's a lot of comparison between the candidates, as in "if HE said that, what would happen" etc.

Well, time for a little more. If Obama was running second to Hillary with nothing but a distant shot at winning the nomination, it's pretty obvious there would be MAJOR pressure from all corners for him to pull out of the race.
To me, that is a BIG double standard.

As I said earlier, very sad to see the kitchen-sink strategy so clearly on display from the HRC campaign but it's not like anyone can claim to be surprised!!!

As Senator Obama said in his speech, if we keep getting distracted by this type of stuff- nothing will change in our country. The people know this.

It is my view that most Americans want change, need change, deserve change. This country is falling apart.

Let her say what she wants. She is revealing who she is. To me it is clear who has integrity, courage and the judgement, record and experience to lead.

I only wish some of the other Democrats would speak up about the importance of this, as Richardson did.

Ah, yes... Wright made several passionate comments which demeaned the state, and David Duke led a racist organization known for violently repressing Black, Jewish and Catholic individuals for having the audacity to not be both white and protestant.

No difference, no difference at all.

Her campaign is like a drowning man, they (she) will grab hold of anything to stay alive!
It's actually pretty disgusting that she's taking the direction she is. I know the kitchen sink strategy has been in play for a while but, come on. Her use of the (for want of a better phrase) "Wright controversy" shows her true character. She won't say what is right, only what is best for her.

Redshift said it best "I don't know what things are like in O'Dowd's world, but normal people don't "denounce" their friends and pastors when they say something objectionable. They may disagree. They may think it's worth mentioning that they disagree. But normal people aren't assumed to share every opinion of the people they associate with."

The obvious addition to this is....
unless they are part of the Clinton campaign.

Finally, please don't judge us Irish based on the rantings of a sycophantic gobshite. Some of us are quite educated.

p.s. BIG shout out to UVa Gooner!

The story is getting old. Obviously it hurt Obama in the short-term but the speech brought him back. He's ahead again in North Carolina, which will be the death knell for the Clinton campaign. The racists in this country will continue to push it, but those are the people that Obama never had to begin with. Hillary is desperate once again and needs to change the subject from her sniper lies. This is who she's always been and will always be...a woman with no integrity or principles. A loser and a sore one at that.

Hillary Clinton did not criticize Obama for sticking with his pastor, she said she would not continue with him as her pastor.

All Hillary is doing is making impossible for anyone that has supported Obama to vote for her if she were to snatch the nomination. She is not thinking beyond today. This kind of stupidity is exactly why she would not be effective in foreign relations.

Why the Wright-Clinton photo matters

Here's what the Wright-Clinton photo means:

1) Wright is not a fringe figure, but a mainstream black church leader. Thus the FoxNews/ABCNews smear campaign consisting of 15 sec clips mixed together is shown to be a lie, and a BIG LIE.

2) Clinton KNEW Wright, and Wright helped Clinton when he was in trouble with Monica. Now that Wright is being smeared by ABCNews and FoxNews, Clinton sits in cowardly silence, never defending him from these attacks.

If Clinton had any honor, he would have stepped up and said Wright is a good man and the 15 sec splice and dice video smears (from garbage peddler ABC) are NOT ACCURATE.

In essence, Wright saved Bill when the GOP was attacking him, but the Clintons TURNED THEIR BACKS on Wright when he is under assault.

http://truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com

This Clinton surrogate is a real bad liar.
1) Obama was not "in the pews" when the speeches were made from which the soundbites were taken.
2) Nothing Wright said is similar to David Duke's statements.

Honestly, I used to be a Hillary defender. No more! She has disgusted me.

This would have been an "unnoticed interview" had Greggie not been spoon fed the story again by his colleagues in Hillaryland. Do you have no shame, Greg?

Speaking of David Duke and Pat Buchanan, here's a Jake Tapper article about the intersection of their views:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/04/pat/index.html

Some excerpts:

"David Duke is busy stealing from me," Buchanan said in 1991. "I have a mind to go down there and sue that dude for intellectual property theft."

"Rail as they will against 'discrimination,' women are simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism ... The momma bird builds the nest. So it was, so it ever shall be. Ronald Reagan is not responsible for this; God is"

"Nixon characterized Buchanan's views as "segregation forever."

"After Nixon was reelected, Buchanan warned his boss not to "fritter away his present high support in the nation for an ill-advised governmental effort to forcibly integrate races."

Well, hell's bells.

Why have Republicans in the race at all, if a Democrat is going to step up and play the "fear the brown people" card?

I'm about to the point where if she's the nominee, I'll be staying home. I may already be there. Seriously.

Holey moley amy and henry! I want some of whatever drugs you're on.

Well, then again, maybe not.

Hillary Clinton 08,
your not a real person, are you.

But all those words are political "dog whistles" that grab the attention of certain desired targets. You know they will just come up with new ones. "Just words" ... talk, talk - elephant talk.