I hate this time of year when a big thaw sets in and flushes vermin like you out of your sewer habitat!!!!!

If you ever have the misfortune of meeting me, I assure you, sir, that I am going to piss on your shoes.

That is all.

How do figure that someone who hates Blacks, Jews and all non-whites loves America?

Go FUCK yourself, you diseased, rotten troll.

Just where the fuck do you get off saying Wright doesn't love America?

Is it because he refused to stand idly by while NeoCon Oil whores sent hundreds of thousands of MY COUNTRYMEN to get slaughtered and mindfucked for some Straussian manifest-destiny wet dream?

In my book he's a PATRIOT of the HIGHEST ORDER for standing against an immoral, unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation, and the bloodthirsty warmongers who cheered us into this mess are the goddamn cowards.

Jeremiah Wright is a cause of the hate-mongering white racists like David Duke. The hate and bitter racial divide that still exist in our country today are most prevalent in the more technologically-challenged, rural areas of our country, like the south, where people like David DuKKKe can still win elections. that is pathetic.

Marine veterans hate America when they aren't being jingoistic?

I posted some of this on another thread, but felt it needed to be said here, too.

What does the Clinton campaign have against Oprah's Church?

Perhaps Sen. Clinton and her staff and advisors might want to watch something other than FOX News before she decides to comment on a colleague's church?

Comparing Rev. Wright to David Duke is utterly absurd and completely offensive.

A recent press release from Trinity UCC, issued by the new Senior Pastor, the Rev. Otis Moss III, identifies Trinity's generosity and accomplishments, and then says that on Sunday mornings alone, over 36 years, Pastor Wright has spoken for 207,792 minutes. The video clips represent perhaps 15-20 seconds of that time. Those clips represent .0000012 of his total preaching at Trinity, and yet many - including Sen. Clinton - are quick to judge him, his church, and, indeed, the entire denomination, on this statistically ridiculous sample.

David Duke, on the other hand, has decades of consistency being a racist.

Quite the opposite of the Klansman turned politician, Rev. Wright, like other UCC ministers, regularly spoke about important issues of justice, and racism is surely one of them. To deny the reality of racism in our
nation — both historically and in the present day — is to ignore one of the most pressing social justice issues our nation faces.

But Jeremiah Wright needs no defense. Anyone who has built a congregation from 87 members to some 8000 and whose congregation has modeled ministries to one of the poorest areas of Chicago has provided a body of work that speaks for itself.

Thirty-six years later, as he retires, Rev. Dr. Wright's legacy includes more than seventy active ministries and eight corporations, including a credit union, a community development corporation, a health and hospice corporation, a higher education corporation, a day care center, two senior housing complexes, a federally chartered credit union, and an elementary school which has received a charter from the Chicago Public Schools Board of Education.

Trinity UCC is known for its benevolence and commitment to education. During his pastorate, Trinity UCC has given in excess of $1 million dollars in scholarships to high school graduates entering college. The congregation has also given in excess of $1.5 million dollars to assist members pursuing seminary education, and given over $500,000 to the Fund for Theological Education and several fully accredited (by the A.T.S.) seminaries including Chicago Theological Seminary, United Theological Seminary, The Lutheran Theological Seminary in Philadelphia and the Samuel DeWitt Proctor School of Theology at Virginia Union University.

I have first-hand experience of Trinity UCC, its leaders and its ministries, and I know it to be a faithful, generous and justice-minded congregation that takes seriously its ministry within and among the African American community on Chicago’s south side.

The United Church of Christ includes many of the oldest congregations in this country. More than 10 percent were formed before 1776. It is socially, racially, economically and theologically diverse, and its membership includes 10 members of Congress — five Republicans and five Democrats, including Sen. Obama.

I'm still waiting to hear Sen. Clinton's speeches on race and religion... (does she really want to dredge up all that "Fellowship" stuff??)

And, oh yeah, where's Sen. Clinton's comments on Sen. McCain's religious buddies like Pastor Hagee?

Where is her campaign statement against MSNBC commentator and David Duke impersonator) Pat Buchanan telling an African-American commentator to "shut up" recently? Or a statement denouncing his recent column "A Brief for Whitey" where he contends that black folks should be thankful for slavery?

Where's her outrage over what Pat Robertson and Jerry Farwell said around the same time as Rev. Wright?

you disgust me, and you have no idea what America is about in the first place

This is not even close to Samantha Power. Saying Monster or stating a position in phrasing the candidate has to explain (but by all logic is true) is just nothing like this0. This is trashing, calling racist and hateful the leading candidate to be the nominee of our party.
How could he keep going? Yes, he needs to answer that. Too bad he didn't explain it by saying something like:
It's a diverse congregation "that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS.

Most importantly, Rev. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. In other words, he has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn.

The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation."
Since I copied that from the post he made on March 14th I guess that he DID explain why he kept going
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-faith-and-my-church_b_91623.html

Should I still be aghast? Let me try it.
Shame on you Barack Obama! How can you sit and listen for 20 years and even expose your children to the gospel of Jesus. What kind of man would listen to someone preaching week after week about your our obligation to love God and one another. That kind of love speech soaking into your head would make you all about hope and unity and we can't have that crap.
Working on behalf of the poor, seeking justice at every turn? You leftist! Just because you choose to live your life with a loving heart, compassion and justice it does not give you the right to expose your children. And we know those code words.
Listen Mr. Barack Obama, we do not let people into the white house that could do dangerous things like honor the constitution, threaten to be honest and respectful and care about people in out nation. That is just not the American way.
And if you think we are dumb enough to think that the values Christ taught and lived are in anyway Christian you've got another thought coming. We've learned what Christian is and so we judge and condemn and seek not truth! But many wear a flag pin, yes sir.
So shame on you!

There. I guess I told him. OK so that was sarcasm since obviously he must be lying as we know the whole story from listening to a few short snips culled out of years and years of sermons. Cause the media doesn't distort things. Oh, darn I am being sarcastic again.

Look I realize not everyone wants to go beyong the impression we are given by the media but having read his words I thought they might be true. It doesn't take a lot of research to find out that they are. I have sent links to videos or text of his sermons, letters and posts and videos from those who know or go to the church and know well the Rev Dr. Wright, an educated and honored man...sent it to all the networks (well not Fox) and all of the shows. They don't seem to care.

I have heard more and more comments on panels from people who do know, my hope is they will do their research and report the truth. If nothing else it might stop the hate mail and threats the church has done nothing to deserve but go to this church to worship, commune and serve...when the preacher's words were about to be twisted and shaped into a weapon to attack a candidate who goes there. This should never have been allowed, whoever we support, the media should never have the power to invoke hate and divisiveness with extreme misrepresentation.

And for another candidate to try to stir it up and one of her people trying to flame it up overseas. Who is it damning America now.

Oh yes, it's Obama's fault. I almost forgot.

Only to moronic fuckwads like yourself it seems.

Are you kidding? What planet do you live on?

What's your argument here? You can't just make a statemetn like that and not substantiate it.

Yes, the candidate who has won the most elected delegates is entitled to the nomination. So what the hell is your point!!!!

cough-cough-Jackass-cough-cough

I once saw a rat eating the corpse of another rat, and that's pretty much the image you're putting forth yourself.

What? Raped? What on earth are you blabbling about. Let me guess, the rape happened at 3AM while our children were sleeping!!!

DUCK! SNIPER FIRE!!

Wait - did Wright rape someone's wife or advocate raping someone's wife? I'm confused -- but it may just be your stupidity that's so confusing. Yup, that's it. Nevermind, carry on.

I did NOT have sex with your great-grandmother!!!

Wow, I would say that's horrible and illegal. Rape of any kind is unconscionable. Wright made inflammatory remarks, but I don't recall (from those clips) that he told his congregation to go out and 'rape' because they were 'raped.' I don't recall that he told his congregation to oppress and discriminate. He told his congregation that, god damn!, we've not only got a long way to go to achieve social justice, but we seem to be going backwards as a nation. And not just for African Americans, but for whites, Latinos, Asians, native americans... pick your group.

Brain Dead? I keep my comments respectful. I wish you'd do the same. I and many, many others are reasonable, after all.

Sincerely,
Little Fish.

suppose someone punches you in the face? someone...please?

thank you

Look- when you examine the record of Clinton comments over the last few months, neither Ken Star nor foaming Obama supporters forced her to utter words that were certifiably false. It's called taking responsibility for the words that come out of your mouth. I'm not sure what Ken Star has to do with any of the most pressing questions today. If it wasn't him, it would be someone else with an (R) after their name. It's how this game is sadly played.

Otherwise, I guess the gist of your comment is that you're disgusted Obama supporters say hateful things about your candidate. I agree. Anyone who visits this site can see that for themselves. And it cuts both ways. And, you'll have to ask those supporters why they say hateful things about your candidate.

I can definitely agree with you that supporters of both candidates need to make a conscious effort to lift this debate back up out of the sewer. I'm making an honest effort to soften my perception towards both Senator Clinton and her supporters. I believe we can disagree about who started what and still come to the same conclusion.
But there is one delicious piece of irony here that I would like for you to comment on. Why is Senator Clinton trying to revive the Wright kerfluffle in fron of the man most responsible for those fifteen years of personal attack and smear the Clintons suffered through, Richard Mellon-Scaife?

If by "deal with race" you mean comparing people to David Duke, then no.

Or crying?

Publicus; Ebony, 1993,"For the first time in history, four African Americans, Ron Brown, Mike Epsy, Jesse Brown and Hazel O'leary, will hold seats in the presidential cabinet." "Never before has a president appointed so many Blacks to the highest ranks of the Executive Branch." " with the appointment of Clifton Wharton Jr.as the number two man at the state department, Black America has achieved yet another historic first."
in 1994 African American unemployment was at a twenty five year low and the median income for Blacks was up $3,354. There were two and a half more small business loans to the African American community during the administration of Pres. Clinton.The African American poet, Maya Angelou, wrote the poem read at his second inauguration and called him "America's first Black president." Pres. Clinton has said he understands why African Americans moved from Hillary after Sen. Obama won Iowa and they realized he was a serious candidate, but what I don't understand is why you have to be so nasty about her?