GOP Strategists Still See Opportunity To Hit Obama On Wright
Although Barack Obama's speech yesterday on race relations was generally received very well by the media, Jonathan Martin reports that GOP consultants still see the Jeremiah Wright controversy as ripe material for attacking Obama in the general election.
"You don't have to say that he's unpatriotic, you don't question his patriotism," said Chris LaCivita, the Republican strategist who helped create the Swift Boat Veterans ads in 2004. "Because I guaran-damn-tee you that with that footage you don't have to say it."
"Obama knows that if somebody puts him in church on some day that Wright said some crazy [stuff] like white people injected blacks with AIDS he's in a world of hurt," said Rick Wilson, who made the 2002 ads tying then-Sen. Max Cleland, a disabled veteran, to Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. "I would eat this up like cake."

Comments (120)
They SEE a Opportunity? They have been attacking Obama for about a week now on this already.
March 19, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. I almost feel bad for these sad excuses for human beings.
March 19, 2008 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, that's a shock. Do you have any insight eric on what the gop attack machine plans on doing with the dump truck load of garbage associated with the clintons? Any insight on that one as well. You should be "fair and balanced" you know.
March 19, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
I would expect nothing less of them. This is what they do and should come as no surprise. Anybody who has seen Fox News recently knows that this is all they got against him.
March 19, 2008 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
That speech signals the end of his viability as a candidate. He can't win as the African American candidate. He can only win as the transcendent candidate whohapeens to be part Af-Am.
He just told Americans his white grandmother was sometimes a racist. Many are going to hear that as him telling them they are racists. That many are racists will not change their resentment or their vote. A key trick to his campaign has been to get other people to talk about race--preferably outraged whites. Now he has outraged whites--or at least scared them.
He has now peaked--maybe not in the dem. nomination process (though I think so--he can still get that, unfortunately)--but as a GE candidate.
You saw the beginning of the end yesterday.
March 19, 2008 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not This Time.
March 19, 2008 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now all you have to do is make sure that Reverend Wright is the only topic of conversation from now until November. I know you'll do your part but, really, how likely is that? This is a valley, not a peak.
March 19, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe you said that. Obama's been AA all his life. Yesterday was not the first time the general public noticed who he is. Way back in Iowa Hillary's campaign has been making that point and has continued to do so since.
These people you speak are not going to vote for Obama.
March 19, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
As Obama said:
NOT THIS TIME
I really don't think this crap is going to work this year.
March 19, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
What exactly convinces you that the same American electorate that reelected Bush over John Kerry, a deoorated combat veteran that initiated the Iran-Contra hearings and brought down the money-laundering Bank of Commerce and Credit International, is ready to out grow the party of fear and smear and every-man-for-himself?
March 19, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know what's sad? Folks think that Wright's rant about the US giving black folks AIDS is crazy UNTIL they are gently reminded that the US gave black folks syphillis. Tuskegee Experiment (look it up). From the fact, it's not hard to see how some folks could share that sentiment. I'm not saying that the accusation is true or even reasonable in isolation. I'm saying that giving our history, I see how folks can arrive at the conclusion.
March 19, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
People from Chicago may remember the "ring of truth" in such theories and accusations.
http://www.thefileroom.org/publication/becker.html
March 19, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's a common misconception that black men were infected with syphilis in the Tuskegee "experiment." What happened at Tuskeegee is that treatment for syphilis was withheld from men who had already contracted the disease. A heinous act, to be sure, but not quite as inhuman as actually infecting people with a disease and then withholding treatment.
See
http://www.brown.edu/Courses/Bio_160/Projects2000/Ethics/TUSKEGEESYPHILISSTUDY.html
March 20, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is no doubt the GOP slime machine will make much hay of Jeremiah Wright in the GE campaign. The question is, will such tactics work with a candidate like Obama?
March 19, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
They'll make 527s about any Democrat that is nominated no matter who it is. If it's Hillary, you'll see that "I did not have sexual relations.." clip so many times you'll want to vomit. They'll blame Hillary for Bill's impeachment and they'll try to convince people that Obama is Malcolm X. That's how they work.
March 19, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
They'll have to find a way to turn the pastor into an imam so that it's consistent with the Obama is a secret Muslim smear. So it hasn't ALL been handed to them; they still have to find ways to be creative.
I'm also shocked someone actually said guara-damn-tee.
March 19, 2008 9:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's going to be that obama is a manchurian muslim, anti-american, anti-white, welfare king candidate. They can mush it all into one. It doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense because the statements that they will attribute to him came from a christian pastor. That's just a minor inconvenience.
March 19, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
"a candidate like Obama"? what does that mean? such tactics would work on any candidate. it stinks, but there it is. wright is worse than rezko. wright (what he can be made to symboloize, not what he "really" is) is the worst albatross any american presidential candidate can have.
obama would not get his picture taken with gavin newsome. and he let wright baptize his daugters? he is still willing to say wright converted him to christianity? that is political stupidity of the highest degree. (but i'm happy he is saved.)
to be clear, i am not attacking wright's arguments. many of the things people are so angry about are in fact true. that's why they are angry.
but to think that such a figure can be your spiritual adviser and think you can elected POTUS, is insane.
i am afraid he needed to bring billy graham with him yesterday to still be viable.
March 19, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
He need to bring Billy Graham with him? Perhaps you should spend sometime researching what Mr. Graham has had to say in the past. Hell, with your advice, he should have brought Falwell, Robertson and Hagee as well.
This tactics ONLY work if folks allow them to work. If you don't want them to work, then they won't. So where do you stand?
Not This Time.
March 19, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
That these folks could take the war records of decorated vet and turn those acts of heroism into liabilities still completely boggles my mind. The right wing slime machine is capable of anything, that much is clear. This is not argue for or against HRC or Obama, it is just a fact. These are just horrible, evil people.
The question is what can we progressives do in response?
March 19, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, yeah. But what's truly dispiriting is that voters actually *believed them.*
I was shocked by the Cleland smears, but absolutely dumbfounded by the Swift Boat bullshit. It was just stunning to watch Kerry, a war hero, stand and get pummeled by these people without giving a quick, passionate, and effective response.
So far, I think Obama's been better at returning fire very quickly, and I have hope that he can push this crap aside.
Not this time, indeed.
March 20, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
May god blind and cripple their children.
Seriously though, may god blind and cripple their children.
March 19, 2008 9:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
i dont see how how blaming hillary for bill's impeachment would hurt hillary among GE voters. if true, that would separate hillary from bill.
yes, 527s will come after either dem candidate. but attacks that play on racial fears are the most powerful ones in american politics.
yesterday, obama gave fodder to the attack machine. he did not distance himself from wright. he said wright baptized him as an american. admirable that he stands up for wright--but devastating as a candidate.
a terrible and likely fatal error.
March 19, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, gee. If all these Republicans are threatening to start up 527's to smear Obama, I guess he should opt out of public financing for the general election to make sure he has the money to fight back.
March 19, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know what that's an excellent, excellent point. I hope somebody from the obama campaign reads your post. I would make that statement today coupled with an attack against mccain's hypocrisy. Excellent point!!!!!
March 19, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
They'll do this tack, but it will backfire on them because we'll call them racists, and say to Americans, "They're only attacking Obama on this because he's black, and they haven't held McCain to the same standard because he's white." We will use the racism card, and force them to back down on this, which will marginalize the Republican Party even further.
March 19, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hagee
Dobson
Roberts
Jones
Any of several thousand of the American/Rupturian Taliban
OMFG . . . This is a case of the pot calling the kettle . . . Ooooops.
March 19, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
These rightwing nut jobs don't scare me, and they should scare democrats. You have to remember, the dems are going to have the cabbage to counter this nonsense.
March 19, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. We've got to quit being afraid of Rovian hatchet-men. It's high time the Dems capture the narative in national politics. Obama took a bold step in that direction yesterday.
March 19, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is NOT Kerry and will respond quickly and effectively to these attacks. Besides...the type of voter the "ads" would resonate with aren't voting for him anyway.
Also I wouldn't be surprised if this year we see third party groups attack the "attackers". This year, discrediting will be a two-way street.
March 19, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's a good idea. We can splice their racist comments together in a clip, and make their credibility on this issue worth shit by saying, "These people have nothing else, they don't have the issues, they don't have the vision, and all they have is hatred. Do you want to support their hatred or rise above it by voting for Obama?"
March 19, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama-Dodd '08 (Chris)
Obama-Edwards '08 (John)
Obama-Biden '08 (Joe)
Obama-Ford '08 (Harold)
Obama-Clinton '08 (Hillary)
make your pick.
March 19, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
All the combos look like a losing pair with Senator Empty Suit at the top of the ticket.
March 19, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama/Webb 08, that's the winning ticket. An angry white guy, gun toting, war hero (true one this time) progressive to counter the republican onslaught. How many angry white guy votes do you thing Webb could bring in? Look what he did in Virginia. It would be a landslide regardless of the wright controversy. Every republican wright commercial and we can have an obama/webb commercial intertwinning webb's vietnam pics and opposition to the iraq war, with obama's speech against the war.
Obama/Webb 08
March 19, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama/Webb '08
Hope with a side of National Security!
March 19, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Out of those I'd vote Biden - it'd help curb McCain's foreign policy advantage.
But, at the same time (and maybe this is not the right train of thought) I'm also looking toward 2016 and having a young VP all ready to take his/her shot. That's where someone like Webb really intrigues me (his telecom immunity vote notwithstanding).
March 19, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Erm...I didn't realize Webb was 62.
March 19, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't know that either. Wow, he's 62. I thought he was early 50's
March 19, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously. Biden is 65 but seems at least 10 years older than Webb. Richardson is 60.
Is there anyone out there who is "young" and has foreign policy chops? Or are the two more or less mutually exclusive?
March 19, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm still trying to recover from the 62 revelation. I can't think of anybody younger who would help obama. He needs someone with experience as his number 2 and the ideal age range would be mid 50's. However, I'm still for webb. He will look a young 70 in 8 years, unlike mccain.
March 19, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
haha, yeah. As I finished typing the first comment I thought, "Wait a minute. Webb was in Vietnam. How young could he really be?!?"
March 19, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but from what I recall he was in nam toward the end. Still, you're right even if it was at the very end, he would still be pushing 60. Damn, I guess I was just dreaming. He does look incredibly good for 62 though.
Obama/Webb 08
March 19, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
And, in other news, the sun came up this morning.
Why run this crap and give Civitas and Wilson a platform?
March 19, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Go right ahead and try it. They have no idea how much determination they'll be met with. What a pathetic excuse for a man Chris LaCivita is.
March 19, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Should Barack Obama survive the Democratic nomination, our Senator Empty Suit is toast. Sooner or later Senator Empty Suit will be forced to address which Wright sermons that were anti-American, anti-white and if he was present.
While Senator Empty Suit of eloquent rhetoric can sell this to the Kool-Aid drinkers, black supremacists, and guilty liberal white latte/brie types, Obama will have his racist supporting butt handed to him by the GOP. The Rev. Wright tape that will give on and on. God Bless Reverend Rev. Jeremiah Wright, keep those tapes a coming.
March 19, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
GET
NEW
MATERIAL
FOR
THE
LOVE
OF
GOD.
March 19, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
We all know that you are for mccain in 08. Why don't you play at redstate.com? Your empty posts devoid of logic and spewing hatred would be appreciated there. I think you should go where you are wanted.
March 19, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not This Time.
March 19, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Brain-freeze!
March 19, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
When I was a kid growing up in NYC, I used to love Mister Softee soft serve....until the Good Humor man came along and opened my eyes to the fact that Mister Softee only served white ice cream (vanilla, of course). No other colors, no other flavors. Just very white, very plain, and very cold stuff.
How appropriate is your avatar.
March 19, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is in response to Marginal Player. I've been reading your posts and i have a theory. You MUST be joking. All of your posts are so ridiculous and shallow that I wouldn't be surprised if you came back in the GE and said, "HA HA HA! I just wanted to piss you guys off! I toootally voted Obama."
So by all means keep posting:) You don't make me angry, you make me even more certain in my respect for Obama and what he is doing.
March 19, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here is a plausible vision of our electoral future. Many of you will mock now. But will you remember in Nov. that you scoffed now?
http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/03/fun-with-electoral-college.html
As for who I am for, I plan to vote for the democratic nominee. I was initially an Obama supporter. The campaign has changed my mind. I also voted for Kerry and Gore and Dukakis and Mondale.
Won't be fooled again.
March 19, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here is a plausible vision of our electoral future. Many of you will mock now. But will you remember in Nov. that you scoffed now?
http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/03/fun-with-electoral-college.html
As for who I am for, I plan to vote for the democratic nominee. I was initially an Obama supporter. The campaign has changed my mind. I also voted for Kerry and Gore and Dukakis and Mondale.
Won't be fooled again.
March 19, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here is a plausible vision of our electoral future. Many of you will mock now. But will you remember in Nov. that you scoffed now?
http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/03/fun-with-electoral-college.html
As for who I am for, I plan to vote for the democratic nominee. I was initially an Obama supporter. The campaign has changed my mind. I also voted for Kerry and Gore and Dukakis and Mondale.
Won't be fooled again.
March 19, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dick Morris was on FOX last night saying how Obama's speech failed because he didn't throw Wright under the bus. He said he wasn't ruthless enough to be President, that good Presidents have to toss even their closest friends to the side in a crisis.
Have you ever heard anything so rife with bullshit?
March 19, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but he (& you) didn't mention the fact that he threw his grandmother under the bus.
March 19, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Baaaaahhhh! You're delusional. Baaaaahhhhhh!
March 19, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've been hearing this in various places, and I have to say that, bar none, it is the stupidest reaction to the speech I have heard. What absolute nonsense.
March 20, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm an enthusiastic O supporter, but i think he's toast because of Rev. Wright. It was a great, important speech, and I'm glad he stuck by the reverand. But the 527s will crucify him. I'm not saying i'd prefer hc -- i'd rather go down with all flags flying with O. But that last undecided 5 or 10 percent of the electorate is pretty dopey, and i think they can be easily swayed by saturation advertising the week before the election that associates O with Wright. Snippets of his speech will help that cause.
March 19, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry, but that's such a bullshit cop-out.
If it wasn't Wright, the right wing 527s would find something else. Hell, they basically turned John Kerry into a war criminal.
March 19, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not so sure. I think we're working through something important right now and it may turn out to have been a cathartic process. Obama's speech was about race, but far more than race. In part, it was about hating the sin and loving the sinner, taking things and people and arguments in context instead of in sound bytes. Maybe I'm dreaming, but I think most voting Americans are capable of the kind of sustained thinking that will take them beyond knee-jerk reactions. I just hope that can find the energy for it.
March 19, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree and really hope you're right.
I just don't think we can let the right wing 527s dictate who we nominate.
March 19, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Marginal player, you're REALLY marginal. You're a 25 per center.
March 19, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
sorry about the triple post.
i hate dick morris.
he was right, if perhaps rhetorically over the top.
when you say get new material, j-h 1414, i assume you are talking aobut the obama campaign. b/c they need some desperately.
March 19, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think he was talking about Marginal Player. But I could be wrong.
March 19, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
well, I for one have been waiting for this. Look, you got a politician who belongs to a fruitcake church (well, I think all churchgoers are by definition fools, but this is a really wierd church, rivally the nutty fundamentalist churches in the South for nuttiness) and for 20 years he listens to a scary, angry, crazy religious nut who thinks the CIA invented AIDS to kill all the black people, and who hates the modern world so much that he thinks it's justified for OBL to kill 3k people just because the US has some bases on the Arabian peninsula? (I'll grant Wright to be right about one thing only, which is that 9-11 and Us foreign policy are related. Duh.) And Obama's speech? Oh gag me, especially the finale, about some old black geezer saying "I'm here because of Ashley," after her ridiculous I Ate Mustard Sandwiches For A Year Because Mommy Had Cancer story.
Obama is basically an amiable guy who has zero actual accomplishments. The public's ga-ga response to him reminds me vividly of the movie Being There. I am very leary of electing someone with such deep associations with a lunatic religious enterprise.
March 19, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Marginal Player, do you honestly, in your bones, think Obama is racist?
Because if you do, you're insane.
Really, the stuff you spew. Twenty years from now, you're gonna be Strom Thurmond, a pathetic anomal.
This campaign, at this time, has astonished me. That people could criticize Obama's specch, which was by FAR the most sophisticated, intelligent, and honest dissection of the racial troubles that exist in our country, strikes me astonishing.
After reading the criticims of this speech by white people, I, as a white person, despise white people
I mean, not my granma, but just the pundits, the political hacks, and the garbage that is spewed by the MSM.
Obama stepped up to the plate, and hit it out of the park.
His critics bowed over the toiled, and vomitted a torrent of nonsense.
March 19, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Who is Barack Obama? A racist, to some degree everyone is, buit overall, no. Michelle Obama, likely, a racist. Reverend Wright, absolutely, which is why I am annoyed Obama played politics and did not throw him under the bus.
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright spewed anti-American speech, cussed regularly, and clearly told a false history of HIV. If one looks at world history, ignoring racists like Reverend Wright brought on Hitler, as well as ethnic cleansing in Kosovo and around the world. America has paid for slavery in 600,000+ deaths in the civil war. Obama provided a white guilt trip that works with his followers but not with middle class America. If you haven't noticed, Bill-O gets 3-4 times the viewers that of Olbertwitt. Fox has 3-4 times the viewers than the Official Obama for President Cable Television Network and lead upward mobility talking head station, MSNBC.
March 19, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
TILT!
Marginal Player triggers Godwin's Rule! All his bases are belong to us!
March 20, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
They do so at their own peril. They might just find themselves self-marginalized.
March 19, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
..... my goodness the man I support is an empty suit? If in my entire life I can fill the pocket on the empty suit with my accomplishments as that empty suit has in about three years of his I will consider mine a more valued existence. Yeah give me a man that has walked the streets that has organised with the downtrodden that has a totality of experiences most city blocks have never endured. Did you see the NYT article that they did on Barack Obama's mother, the one who carried a male name her entire life because her parents wanted a boy and named her as such anyways? Give me THAT MAN to possibly rescue this country from the abyss it's sprialing down.
March 19, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course the republicans will make hay out of the Wright videos (or at least they will try to do so). No one doubts as much. That said, by this point we have only two choices: 1) Barack Obama or 2) Hillary Clinton. If you really think that there is less hay to be made if Clinton is the nominee then you are willfully deluding yourself. I wish that Obama did not have the baggage that his association with Wright brings, but it is no heavier a burden for him to carry than the baggage that Clinton will bring. As such, it is not clear to me how the knowledge that FOX & al will use Wright as grist for the slime-mill is especially relevant to our decision vis-a-vis Clinton or Obama.
March 19, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
......WAHHHHHHHHHH THE 527'S will get him, oh be still my beating heart we can't possibly serve up somebody some nasty naughty 527 group will skewer. Toughen up buddy, if the muck of the scum is that which you prefer to remain mired in and hope to nominate someone immune to the reach of 527 groups that candidate is uh, give me a few months and perhaps a name will come to me. If $$$ and persistence will be all that is needed to overcome these groups that will keep you up at night in a cold sweat Obama will surely have that in abundance. Or we could go establishment which is fighting back voraciously to assure that they will have a candidate regardless of which party takes the White House.
NOT! THIS! TIME!
March 19, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama did nothing imo, to settle the matter.
He never answered the question as to why he chose Wright to start with. He could have chosen another church. And if he didn't know about Wright when he chose him, when he heard that first hate speech, why didn't he leave then?
The constant hate speech had its affect on Michelle Obama, obviously:
"America is a mean country." "For the first time in my life I'm proud of my country."
Obama was too clever to get caught on tape (as far as we now know) saying such things. But how does he argue he doesn't believe/feel this way when
1) His wife does and
2) His pastor and his church does.
It strains reason, and his speech did nothing to explain it or answer the questions people now have about him.
And to compare Wright's hate rants with Geraldine Ferraro's comment is outrageous or to compare his Pastor and his hateful ranting with his poor old grandmother is perhaps even more outrageous. I guess since he couldn't really throw Wright under the bus without alienating his pastor and African Americans who share those views, he figured he'd offer up his grandmother instead by referring to her occassional racists remarks that made him cringe. Was was his point? To say: "See? My own grandmother said racial things!"
Rae
March 19, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
RaeK thinks Obama's speech was unsuccessful: Film at 11.
March 19, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Do you really think that America has been a paradise for African Americans? Is America immune from harsh criticism?
March 19, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think Obama wins, and i'm rooting for him. Why? Because I will laugh my ass off. I knew from day 1 that W was an idiotic, long before most people, and I thought he was an incompetent even back when 90% of you fools gave him your support (remember back in Sept 2001? October, December...)
Watching W, that dumb bunny Dr. Rice, and Rummy fuck up the war, among other things, had been hilarious entertainment for me. But you know what? Obama won't be much better. Oh, the US is so screwed, 12 and maybe 16 years of executive incompetence. Short the dollar : )
March 19, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
How is this new(s)?
This morning NYT editorial:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/19/opinion/19wed1.html?hp
March 19, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
.... how dare Wright not attribute the systemic racism endured through the 20th century of his congregants and mainly their ancestors and NOT chalk it up to randome chance or juss such an amazing set of coincidences, forget about giving voice to those that wished to silently go along with passive or not so passive racism which existed daily in the lives of his congregants and their ancestors........
March 19, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with Morris. Like others above , I voted
for Obama but yesterday's speech turned me to HRC.
It was an honest , thoughtful speech. They don't win elections. For that he would have had announce his immediate resignation from Trinity church ,renounce Wright and delete his honest description of the roots of Black rage. I think more highly of him as an individual for not doing that and less highly as a candidate.
It wasn't enough for him to say that white's suffer too. The emphasis should have been reversed: whites are suffering; oh, and blacks too.
Liberals make far too high an estimate of Joe Lunchpail's generosity of spirit. He's secretely disappointed that life hasn't turned out as he'd expected in high school. He'll vote for the candidate who gives him something to temporarily blot that: patriotism , his superiority to
someone else- muslims, blacks, whoever is the flavor of the month . That's why he watches Fox
HRC is less scrupulous and when, as it will , a similar situation arises during her campaign- if we're lucky enough to have her as the candidate- she'll do whatever has to be done,
"Nice guys finish last" Leo Durocher.
Pity.I think Obama might have made a good president. That train has left the station.
March 19, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's a very sad thought process. I mean that genuinely. You're basically saying, "integrity doesn't matter, I want someone who will do whatever it takes, trample whomever it takes, to win."
That's just very disappointing.
March 19, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
They don't call hope "audacious" for nothin'.
March 20, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Yeah give me a man that has walked the streets that has organised with the downtrodden that has a totality of experiences most city blocks have never endured. Did you see the NYT article that they did on Barack Obama's mother, the one who carried a male name her entire life because her parents wanted a boy and named her as such anyways? Give me THAT MAN to possibly rescue this country from the abyss it's sprialing down."
Do you realize how crazy this sounds? His mother had a boy's name, and he spent a few years as a community organizer, and that makes him your Savior?
Eh, I was a community organizer too, a complete waste of time, riling up ignorant poor people to complain about how life ain't fair.
March 19, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't see how you could have been a community organizer, considering your comments make your general hatred for people clear.
March 19, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Too bad for the GOP this came oyut in March!!
LOL
"Not this time" is right.
I bet the initial glee at RNC headquarters the reality has started to sink in -- this stuff would have been gold in October. Too bad Hillary and her allies put it all out there 8 months prior to the general. The issue is exhausted so well that we will just be tired of hearing and talking about it after another week.
Hillary has accomplished her goal of "Vetting". Too bad for the GOP there's nothing left.
Now the MSM should start "Vetting" MCcain .....
March 19, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
More Reverend Wright tapes to come; the best is being saved for last. I just hope it includes one with Obama sitting there nodding in agreement.
March 19, 2008 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did Obama kill your father or something? Fucking hell, shut up already.
March 19, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not this time.
March 20, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
"...WAHHHHHHHHHH THE 527'S will get him, oh be still my beating heart we can't possibly serve up somebody some nasty naughty 527 group will skewer."
Well said. You could nominate Abe Lincoln and he would be slimed and smeared by the GOP dogs.
I have an idea. Why don't we make some 527s to beat up John McCain in October?
Stop playing defense.
March 19, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, and I don't know about the rest of you, but in the wake of yesterday's speech, I sent a little more money Obama's way.
March 19, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good idea. I did too.
This is a battle for our country.
We all need to do our part.
March 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not too many people heard about it because "the speech" got all the attention, but
Jack Murpha endorsed Hillary Clinton ! Yeah!
Rae
March 19, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
ahem...Murtha.
March 19, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
What's that make it now, 1 to 47 since Super Tuesday?
March 19, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
ooops typo: yes, murtha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU
March 19, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the MSM needs to stop rolling over for the rightwing.
In 2004, they constantly replayed and broadcast the Swiftboat ads as "news".
This was a huge boost to the GOP.
The MSM needs to show some restraint in following the GOP lemming-like.
March 19, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Spring is in the air. Rae and Marginal Player's eyes meet across a crowded message board. Sparks fly. "Hey - YOU'RE a racist, uninformed dumbass? I'M a racist, uninformed dumbass, too!"
Oh, please, please let this tender bud of like-mindedness blossom into the full-fledged romance for the ages that it surely is destined to become.
Come on, guys. You *know* you want to run away together.
If nothing else, could you at least run away seperately?
March 19, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
"GOP strategist"
Isn't t