Wow. I almost feel bad for these sad excuses for human beings.

I would expect nothing less of them. This is what they do and should come as no surprise. Anybody who has seen Fox News recently knows that this is all they got against him.

As Obama said:
NOT THIS TIME

I really don't think this crap is going to work this year.

There is no doubt the GOP slime machine will make much hay of Jeremiah Wright in the GE campaign. The question is, will such tactics work with a candidate like Obama?

"a candidate like Obama"? what does that mean? such tactics would work on any candidate. it stinks, but there it is. wright is worse than rezko. wright (what he can be made to symboloize, not what he "really" is) is the worst albatross any american presidential candidate can have.

obama would not get his picture taken with gavin newsome. and he let wright baptize his daugters? he is still willing to say wright converted him to christianity? that is political stupidity of the highest degree. (but i'm happy he is saved.)

to be clear, i am not attacking wright's arguments. many of the things people are so angry about are in fact true. that's why they are angry.

but to think that such a figure can be your spiritual adviser and think you can elected POTUS, is insane.

i am afraid he needed to bring billy graham with him yesterday to still be viable.

May god blind and cripple their children.

Seriously though, may god blind and cripple their children.

Well, gee. If all these Republicans are threatening to start up 527's to smear Obama, I guess he should opt out of public financing for the general election to make sure he has the money to fight back.

Hagee

Dobson

Roberts

Jones

Any of several thousand of the American/Rupturian Taliban

OMFG . . . This is a case of the pot calling the kettle . . . Ooooops.

These rightwing nut jobs don't scare me, and they should scare democrats. You have to remember, the dems are going to have the cabbage to counter this nonsense.

And, in other news, the sun came up this morning.

Why run this crap and give Civitas and Wilson a platform?

Should Barack Obama survive the Democratic nomination, our Senator Empty Suit is toast. Sooner or later Senator Empty Suit will be forced to address which Wright sermons that were anti-American, anti-white and if he was present.

While Senator Empty Suit of eloquent rhetoric can sell this to the Kool-Aid drinkers, black supremacists, and guilty liberal white latte/brie types, Obama will have his racist supporting butt handed to him by the GOP. The Rev. Wright tape that will give on and on. God Bless Reverend Rev. Jeremiah Wright, keep those tapes a coming.

Here is a plausible vision of our electoral future. Many of you will mock now. But will you remember in Nov. that you scoffed now?

http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/03/fun-with-electoral-college.html

As for who I am for, I plan to vote for the democratic nominee. I was initially an Obama supporter. The campaign has changed my mind. I also voted for Kerry and Gore and Dukakis and Mondale.

Won't be fooled again.

Dick Morris was on FOX last night saying how Obama's speech failed because he didn't throw Wright under the bus. He said he wasn't ruthless enough to be President, that good Presidents have to toss even their closest friends to the side in a crisis.

Have you ever heard anything so rife with bullshit?

Marginal player, you're REALLY marginal. You're a 25 per center.

sorry about the triple post.

i hate dick morris.

he was right, if perhaps rhetorically over the top.

when you say get new material, j-h 1414, i assume you are talking aobut the obama campaign. b/c they need some desperately.

well, I for one have been waiting for this. Look, you got a politician who belongs to a fruitcake church (well, I think all churchgoers are by definition fools, but this is a really wierd church, rivally the nutty fundamentalist churches in the South for nuttiness) and for 20 years he listens to a scary, angry, crazy religious nut who thinks the CIA invented AIDS to kill all the black people, and who hates the modern world so much that he thinks it's justified for OBL to kill 3k people just because the US has some bases on the Arabian peninsula? (I'll grant Wright to be right about one thing only, which is that 9-11 and Us foreign policy are related. Duh.) And Obama's speech? Oh gag me, especially the finale, about some old black geezer saying "I'm here because of Ashley," after her ridiculous I Ate Mustard Sandwiches For A Year Because Mommy Had Cancer story.

Obama is basically an amiable guy who has zero actual accomplishments. The public's ga-ga response to him reminds me vividly of the movie Being There. I am very leary of electing someone with such deep associations with a lunatic religious enterprise.

They do so at their own peril. They might just find themselves self-marginalized.

..... my goodness the man I support is an empty suit? If in my entire life I can fill the pocket on the empty suit with my accomplishments as that empty suit has in about three years of his I will consider mine a more valued existence. Yeah give me a man that has walked the streets that has organised with the downtrodden that has a totality of experiences most city blocks have never endured. Did you see the NYT article that they did on Barack Obama's mother, the one who carried a male name her entire life because her parents wanted a boy and named her as such anyways? Give me THAT MAN to possibly rescue this country from the abyss it's sprialing down.

......WAHHHHHHHHHH THE 527'S will get him, oh be still my beating heart we can't possibly serve up somebody some nasty naughty 527 group will skewer. Toughen up buddy, if the muck of the scum is that which you prefer to remain mired in and hope to nominate someone immune to the reach of 527 groups that candidate is uh, give me a few months and perhaps a name will come to me. If $$$ and persistence will be all that is needed to overcome these groups that will keep you up at night in a cold sweat Obama will surely have that in abundance. Or we could go establishment which is fighting back voraciously to assure that they will have a candidate regardless of which party takes the White House.

NOT! THIS! TIME!

Obama did nothing imo, to settle the matter.

He never answered the question as to why he chose Wright to start with. He could have chosen another church. And if he didn't know about Wright when he chose him, when he heard that first hate speech, why didn't he leave then?

The constant hate speech had its affect on Michelle Obama, obviously:

"America is a mean country." "For the first time in my life I'm proud of my country."

Obama was too clever to get caught on tape (as far as we now know) saying such things. But how does he argue he doesn't believe/feel this way when

1) His wife does and
2) His pastor and his church does.

It strains reason, and his speech did nothing to explain it or answer the questions people now have about him.

And to compare Wright's hate rants with Geraldine Ferraro's comment is outrageous or to compare his Pastor and his hateful ranting with his poor old grandmother is perhaps even more outrageous. I guess since he couldn't really throw Wright under the bus without alienating his pastor and African Americans who share those views, he figured he'd offer up his grandmother instead by referring to her occassional racists remarks that made him cringe. Was was his point? To say: "See? My own grandmother said racial things!"

Rae

How is this new(s)?

This morning NYT editorial:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/19/opinion/19wed1.html?hp

"Yeah give me a man that has walked the streets that has organised with the downtrodden that has a totality of experiences most city blocks have never endured. Did you see the NYT article that they did on Barack Obama's mother, the one who carried a male name her entire life because her parents wanted a boy and named her as such anyways? Give me THAT MAN to possibly rescue this country from the abyss it's sprialing down."

Do you realize how crazy this sounds? His mother had a boy's name, and he spent a few years as a community organizer, and that makes him your Savior?

Eh, I was a community organizer too, a complete waste of time, riling up ignorant poor people to complain about how life ain't fair.

Oh, and I don't know about the rest of you, but in the wake of yesterday's speech, I sent a little more money Obama's way.

Not too many people heard about it because "the speech" got all the attention, but

Jack Murpha endorsed Hillary Clinton ! Yeah!

Rae

Spring is in the air. Rae and Marginal Player's eyes meet across a crowded message board. Sparks fly. "Hey - YOU'RE a racist, uninformed dumbass? I'M a racist, uninformed dumbass, too!"

Oh, please, please let this tender bud of like-mindedness blossom into the full-fledged romance for the ages that it surely is destined to become.

Come on, guys. You *know* you want to run away together.

If nothing else, could you at least run away seperately?

"GOP strategist"

Isn't that an oxymoron after Iraq?

It's important to remember that these warnings of future attacks ARE the attack. They know this issue won't have nearly the legs in the general that it does right now, since Obama has to some extent put it to bed and given the uncommon exposure it's getting for a primary season issue.

Why are these people publicly announcing their plans to attack him in the fall unless that annoucement itself is the attack. Why continue trying to hurt the nomination chances of the candidate you claim to want to face in the general? The fact that the right wanted to take him out now during the primary race belies their claim that they want to face him in the general. (Their concerns about Obama are about fundraising, new demographics, and GOTV.)

Yesterday they thought they had him on this one but today they're not so sure, so they're pushing this "you better not nominate Obama or we'll take him down in the fall" argument.

They know Clinton, the pundits, and others have a stiffy for the "electability" criterion right now and they're exploiting that. Please don't buy into it.

If I were a GOP strategist, I wouldn't go there.

At this moment, someone is composing a loop of Pastor Hagee's anti-Catholic tirades.

Imagine the play they'll get in, say, suburban Philadelphia.

Also can we PLEASE retire the phrase "throw under the bus."

So over it. New metaphor needed.

LaCivita is truly a dispicable man. He had close ties with the Virginia Republican party and especially Senator George Allen (R-Macacca). He will stop at nothing to lie, smear, and make personal attacks that go far beyond politics. A disgrace to the nation.

From your link:

"Have fun with the map trying to construct a win for the Democrats that has only two of those states in the blue column."

Not that difficult--SurveyUSA already did it.

http://www.surveyusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/mccain-obama-final.png

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Of course Republican strategists see an opportunity to hit Obama on Wright.  Fox News has already made their intentions abundantly clear.  Barack Obama and John McCain might keep it clean but MoveOn and other Democratic-leaning 527's will not let the Swift Boating go unanswered.  After being burnt in 2004 and seeing the consequences of another Republican term, it's not going to be the same situation.  Democrats see an opportunity to hit McCain on Hagee and his Falwell/Robertons flip-flop.

They like to try to scare and intimidate in Rovian fashion acting as if they have something up their sleeves.  2006 showed that they're full of it and it will be much the same in 2008. 

The Wright situation is still, a blessing in disguise because it debunked the whole Muslim thing.  They were saying he was unpatriotic anyway (that silly Pledge of Allegiance lie where Richardson and Hillary had their hands on their chests during God Bless America and Obama didn't & the goofy flag lapel pin thing). 

When Obama is trying to save soldiers lives by getting us the heck out of Iraq while John McCain is trying to keep us for 100 years and trying to start a new war in Iran, the reality based world will be able to see through the Republican B.S.   Plus, several pundits have pointed to the age difference including, yes again, Bill Maher who said that the sight of the young vibrant Barack Obama and "Grampa Munster" will be enough to sway voters.

Besides Iraq, the economy is tanking and McCain has already painted himself as ignorant on the subject.  As the recession deepens, hurting voters won't be swayed by Rovian tactics.  Plus, they must be in a fantasyland if they think that Democratic 527's won't be refreshing and rehashing the McCain scandals, his divorce, his heiress druggy wife, his flip-flop on torture, his flip-flop on religion:  that great line that he used in a debate on Romney about being 'the candidate of change' will be used on him. 

Remember that The New York Times story that bursted the McCain-media love-a-thon is still being worked on and is sure to come back up with stronger evidence and probably at the worst time for him when Hillary Clinton will be a long forgotten and he and Obama will be duking it out.  He'll find out like Obama has that the honeymoon is over.

Plus again as Bill Maher puts it, "He's old!" McCain will be trying over and over to use the Reagan line against Mondale ("I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience.") Unlike Hillary who doesn't have much more experience than Barack Obama in the Senate, John McCain does and the typical handicap that Senators have when running for president will hurt McCain far more than it helps him.  That's why Dick Durbin and others were pushing Obama to run now rather than wait because he doesn't have that baggage of decades in the Senate.

Back to the age thing, McCain is more Bob Dole than Ronald Reagan.  It will show when there is another cool Black Eyed Peas You Tube video and McCain has the Charlie Daniels band backing him.  (Can you say Net Roots, Republicans?) When people start pushing him to release his medical records and asking more about his health and past cancer bouts, he'll be more Paul Tsongas than Paul Tsongas, only I don't think that he has the stamina to do pool laps like the late senator.

Remember that he's attached himself to the most unpopular president in a generation and will be handicapped in much the same way that Al Gore was but much much worse because Bill Clinton was not the bungling fool that George W. Bush is.

If you haven't read it yet, I think Frank Rich's column "Who's Afraid of Barack Obama?"still makes the most powerful case for Obama and more than anything shows why the Republicans are working so hard to help Hillary steal a victory.  I highly recommend it.

There are other McCain minuses that TPM readers probably have that I haven't thought of, but Republicans are in for a rude awakening.  Enough prominant Republicans and conservatives have already predicted a huge loss in Congress and the White House.  

Most of all money talks, sh#t walks.

Given that the news directors and editors apparently don't have a much longer attention span than the general public, it's laughable that this issued would have any effect on Obama in a general election.

Given that the Democratic nomination is still up for grabs (thanks in larger part to the Clinton campaign's willingness to crawl through the mud to get to the White House) and the party's convention is in August, that's five months for this thing to sit and gather dust. If the Right Wing pulls it out, the effect will be minimal. People will have forgotten and think, "so?". And even if certain people buy into it, they were not likely to vote for Obama anyway.

Say you've got Mr. and Mrs Joe Schmo sitting around after dinner two weeks from the General election and its between McCain and Obama. THey are white and in their early '50s and suburban. They are moderate-vote Republican sometimes, Democrat sometimes and are concerned more with the character as much as the policies...

would swiftboat attack ads work on them?