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Gallup: Obama Takes Eight-Point Lead Over Hillary

Today's Gallup tracking poll shows Barack Obama taking an eight-point lead over Hillary Clinton, beyond Gallup's three-point margin of error. Here are the numbers, compared to yesterday:

Obama 50% (+2)
Clinton 42% (-2)

Late Update: From Gallup's analysis:

Obama clearly has weathered the Wright storm, while the dark clouds have shifted to Clinton over whether she has exaggerated her foreign policy credentials. This week she has had to defend her repeated claim that she came under sniper fire while visiting Bosnia as first lady, which news video clearly disputed.

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Once people find out about Rezko and Obama’s crazy preacher, the poor guy won’t have a chance.

Except they already know about Rezko, and they know it has already been repeatedly debunked and Obama did nothing wrong, and they already know about his preacher, which also has nothing to do with Obama, and obviously people still prefer him to Hillary.

Now do you really want us to start talking about Marc Rich and Norman Hsu and all of Bill's shady business deals? You might want to quit trying to bring up the Rezko bullshit in a desperate answer to everything negative for Hillary, it isn't flying, and your candidate is sitting in one hell of a glass house.

I think he was being snarky.

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Dude, the guy was kidding. Calm down.

Hey-oh, buddy! Too snarkified for my own good, I see.

Sometimes it's hard to tell the dif between trollers and jokers.

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It is sometimes hared to tell who is actualy serious as well. It takes some back and forth to tell a troll from a fool.

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Lux, I think billysumday was throwing a joke there.

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In the first place, Obama just did a two-hour Q&A with the Chicago press, where they threw every Rezko question they could think of at him. They came away satisfied, according to most who attended. In the second, you should learn to read. The poll says that Obama weather the Wright storm. You don't get it. Obama's poll numbers went UP after the Jeremiah Wright thing happened. You really don't enjoy reality too much, do ya?

I suspect this is a momentary surge based on the Tuzla flap (comparable to the bump Hillary received on the Wright flap).

Furthermore, I suspect the race to even back out in the near future to near neck-and-neck numbers again, given there are no new flaps the MSM echo chamber creates.

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That's probably a reasonable assumption. But it will be interesting to watch polls now that the establishment media has begun to report that Clinton really has little chance of overcoming Obama's lead. Combine that with the effect of the slow trickle of high profile SD endorsements (for Obama) and we may see a trend. However, as I said at the top, your reasoning is probably correct.

A small correction. I think there was limited reasoning in what I said, and more than a fair share of bald assertions/suspicions.

Looking at the Pollster.com tracking figures since the start of this fracas in Iowa (and before), I think it is obvious in the particulars that media coverage has been pushing this race in many ways.

The assertion in the nascent MSM meme that HRC cannot win, except via "Hail Mary," I suspect, will have a profound effect on these polling figures. Interesting this meme is developing four weeks out from Penn.

Plenty of time to force an Obama victory. Perhaps the "liberal media" is seeing how potentially destructive HRC stonewalling through the convention can be to Democratic chances? But, that's just the conspiracy theorist in me.

My whole-hearted belief is that this Tuzla story may have legs, because it strikes at a deeper memory of the Clintons, and is a perfect example of their parsing and their "misstatements" from the '90's regime. I think this perspective/assertion will be supported by further erosion of HRC's Gallup/Rasmussen numbers next week. No one, Republican, Democrat, or Independent, desires a continuation of lying or misrepresentative Presidents. Hence, the Republican nomination of McCain, who is perceived by all too many as a "straight shooter."

Look to Thurs/Fri releases of polling figures, since we have learned that weekend figures are rather unreliable.

I really desire a SUSA poll of Pennsylvania, post-Tuzla,

I also think that this poll may also be reflecting the recent assertions from the MSM that the race is, for all intents, over.

It's one thing to back a fighter.

Quite another to back a delusional one.

Short of political Hiroshima, she loses delegate race, popular vote race and very likely the SD race too.

She can stay in it, but she'll start looking more and more like Huckabee if her only hope is miracles...

Unless HRC comes out with a stirring speech on "lying" and how we as a country "must look directly at the issue honestly & openly", it ain't gonna happen on it's own.

OBAMA turned it around becuase he took the race & Wright issues head, on in a very public way, and talk to Americans as adults and with respect.

HRC doesn't have the class to try let alone the talent pull it off, especially on her making up WAR STORIES.

The polls stay this way for the foreseeable future. There's nothing left for them to attack Obama with, thought I suspect HRC will continue to try.

Each time count on another super delegate to come out for Obama.

"There's nothing left for them to attack Obama with" ???

Don't tell me that. What about that.. that.. professor thingy ?

Wow, last night's numbers must have had her below 40% for first time. Game over!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this an all time high?

So much for Hillary's hopes of exploiting Fox New's Wright smear to her advantage. =)

Idiotic? Sinbad?

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O hell, it's over.

Bill is saying she'll win the "popular vote" in the upcoming primaries. Ok, I have to say this, finally - they are still bitching about the caucuses - one thing that I think I saw happen here, where in certain parts of Dallas County (read South Dallas, Oak Cliff, West Dallas - predominantly African American areas) people have had a tough time voting. Certain precincts are constantly fucked with. So everyone who supported Obama here got the message and made damn sure that our votes counted by going back and doing what we were asked to do in this participatory democracy. It was brilliant. It was the most astounding thing I've seen happen here in an election.

I'm really tired of the Clintons denigrating the process like they are. It's just more damage to the Democrats. The Dallas News will not let up on it - they seem to want to delegitimize all the thousands of caucus votes along with the Clintons. It is only in the most technical sense that that caucus votes weren't
"popular" votes. What the hell else were they? Regular voters lined back up and voted again.

His lead in the Gallup tracking was briefly this big at the end of February, but it's quite a recovery over the past week. It's now well outside the margin of error. And Rasmussen now has him up as well, too, pointing to a clear Clinton drop. I don't think Clinton's fall can be attributed entirely to Bosnia, can it?

No, it is not just Bosnia. But just like the weather forms as a result of myriad different conditions, Hillary's many problems (most of all a poorly run and financed campaign) have accumulated to where a tipping point may have been reached. If that tipping point has in fact been reached, then her decline will not be saved by minor random fluctuations, but will continue, absent a catastrophic blunder by Obama. Once the public stops believing her (or Obama for that matter), then it is pretty hard to win them back.

My feeling is that an Obama blunder is her remaining trump card, and that is what she is hanging on to...just hoping for an Obama blunder. So in the coming days, she will provoke Obama to try to induce a catastrophic blunder. Obama's team needs to know that is hers and Bill's game, and just cool it.

Strategy for Obama: ignore Clinton, attack McCain.

Okay, not to say I toldja so (though I did), but this would tend to confirm my theory about the real purpose of the increasing frequency and ridiculousness of the Pennspin. It's starting to sink in that she can't win the nomination in a way that won't destroy her chances of winning the general, and all she's doing is hurting our chances of winning in the fall.

And, of course, that whole exposure of her repeated Bosnia lies and her lame-ass response is pretty devestating too.

THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!! FOR HILLARY!!!

Confirms Pew, esp when you consider this is a tracking poll, Pew isn't


Last dog dying fast

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As an Obama supporter who has absolutely been sickened at what has happened over the last 8 years, I have to say that I don't think Hillary should drop out or quit fighting for power.

Doing so would be going against everything the Clinton's believe in, which is that they - and they alone - are capable of leading the Democratic Party.

So Hillary, fight on! All summer long just keep campaigning as hard as you can. And if Barack manages to win the nomination at the convention, I hope you immediately start planning your run for 2012. Do whatever you have to do to torpedo him so he loses to McCain. That way a grateful Democratic electorate will turn to you in 2012.

And if Obama should somehow win in November, then on the day following the election I hope you start planning how you and your supporters will bring down his Presidency. Maybe you can find a way to force him to resign from office, setting you up to win the nomination in 2012! I know it is a dream, but sometimes dreams come true if you just fight hard enough.

Be true to yourself, Hillary, and your absolute conviction that only you are capable of leading the Democrats. Never give up! Never give in!

I'm sure that someday, if you keep at it, we Democrats will all wake up and realize that - yes - we were wrong to think that anyone other than a Clinton could lead the party.

I thought it was closer to this before Wright?

This is more than just the Bosnia story. It's the realization that Hillary's path to the nomination is virtually non-existant barring a catastrophe for Obama and that is starting to resonate with voters. As such, her tactics no longer appear helpful and are seen as damaging to the party as a whole.

Brilliant post Choska! Clinton cannot win. She cannot capture the will of the party, the popular votes, the delegates or the super-delegates. Obama is the candidate of hope, she is messenger of doom. Clinton will keep siphoning votes to McCain and try to tear down Obama just to feed her massive ego.

No, it's tied for his biggest lead. Obama also led 50-42 in the tracking on March 1.

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This is probably a post-Bosnia bounce. She'll come back up a bit in a few days. What I'd like to see is if he comes back down or if the past week convinced a bunch of folks for good that Obama is their candidate.

The big difference between Wright and Tuzla is that Obama expanded Wright into a discussion of race that left many, left and right, with admiration. According to polls, most of those who thought worse of Obama after his speech were (a) those who would never have voted for him and (b) were matched by those who thought better of him. People may want to hear more from him, but he has given himself and the voters a way out.

There is no comparable way out of Tuzla for Clinton. While the Tuzla lie does not matter much as an isolated fact, it goes to the heart of Clinton's struggle for a good reputation. That she tried to minimize initial skepticism from Sinbad by stating he was just a comedian reminded me of the Clintons' trashing of Lewinski until the semen DNA showed up, just as the video at the tarmac gave convincing evidence about the lie.

Another difference is that Mr. Clinton went on a "forgive me, I am so bad" campaign while Mrs. Clinton gave a flimsy and non-credible answer -- sleep deprivation, or millions of words, or I said it correctly in my book. In summary, Clinton lied about Tuzla several times, got caught with unimpeachable evidence, and now has absolutely no rationale for her lie. That will never go away. I still don't understand why she was so reckless, after being challenged the first time. That's a bad character trait for a president.

The other big difference is one candidate actually said the offending/inaccurate words herself, the other did not.

exregis:

Indeed, and furthermore, to chide the press that they need to "lighten up" when it was she who was trying to lend the gravity of wartime to something that was little more than a cheer-up-the-troops mission strikes me as rather pathetic. It's not like she was joking -- should we all therefore just chuckle it off?

I really admired Bill's tenacity when he was fighting the Ken Starr smear machine, but now I see it as the same kind of desperate behavior that we see from Hillary now. Unfortunately, in both cases, we may see the party struggling to recover at the end of it all.

The Richardson endorsement has brought out the narrative of superdelegates rallying around Obama. I'm not sure many people would actually support Obama just because Richardson does, but it does demonstrate how difficult it will be for Hillary to win through superdelegates when even Richardson is rallying to Obama. Pew found 51% of Clinton supporters still think she will win (33% think Obama will). As the media narrative changes, more of those people will realize Clinton has lost and will start supporting Obama for the sake of the party. Casey's endorsement and Leahy's statement today will continue the trend. Even Dean is asking undecided superdelegates to make up their minds. If this pace keeps up, PA may not even matter much in the end.

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Uh oh, time for the clintons to lob another stink bomb. Run for cover.

I think the Kitchen Sink's just about empty and with it the Clintons' Cofers

To paraphrase Jonathan Alter, since HRC's only shot at the nomination would be a catastrophic implosion of the Obama campaign and since they are not in the position to spark such an implosion, it is far better for HRC to withdraw from the race now and come in later as a white knight if and when that unlikely implosion occurs than to continue driving both her own and Obama's negatives up, which only helps McSame and the GOP.

The professor thing is over too, the University of Chicago released a clarification today. Of course, Hillary was spreading lies again.

Oh, what the hell these guys know, they are just law professors..

BTW, that and my ealrier posts were snarks.

That is pretty much the epitome of why her campaign is gross. Anyone who knows anything knows he was perfectly correct in this, and not just technically. She went to law school; she knows, I'm sure her campaign people went to college. They're manipulating the facts to bring down Obama, and it's wrong. Attack him on the issues, don't lie about things that could hurt the party in the general.


"And, of course, that whole exposure of her repeated Bosnia lies and her lame-ass response is pretty devestating too."


It's certainly devastating to those people who are really tuned in to politics and already inclined not to like Hillary. As an Obama supporter, I think it's devastating. But I'm hesitant to conclude that the Bosnia lie will have a broad effect on the numbers here.

Will it turn independents away from Hillary and toward Obama? Will it turn Hillary supporters from Hillary and toward Obama? Will it disgust Hillary supporters and make them stay home? All three of these questions are big unknowns to me.

I'm certain that it will energize Obama supporters. But, frankly, Obama supporters living in the remaining primary states are probably already as energized as they are going to be.

Clinton, you've fought a hard fight, but it's time now. Everyone knows it but you.

Your own advisors are giving you a 10% chance. It's time.

His troubles aren't over, but he has weathered the storm. Time to put Hillary behind him and start thinking about how to deal with McCain. And that's where the public dialog from his camp needs to focus. From here on out, Hillary should be a non-issue.

Shame on you! Ready on Day One! Commander-n-Chief Threshold! Lifetime of Experience! As far as I know. Celestial choirs! Disenfranchise voters! I'm a fighter! I did not have sex with that women,Miss Lewinsky!(oops,wrong clinton)McCain and I are qualified,Obama has a speech. Just a few fave bullet points for Hillary supporters who might be feeling a little down these days. I'm sorry, did I say bullet points? Gotta go, Incoming Sniper Fire!......Fork,meet Hillary.

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Indepatriot: Stop it, you're killing me! ROFL.

Great cartoon re: Bosnia-gate (sniper-gate? tuzla-gate?) -- see today's entry from Steve Sack:
http://www.startribune.com/galleries/16178252.html

Snarky, no. Wingnut who supports McCain - yes. I think Rezco and the crazy preacher won't mean shit to the 60% who0 will vote for Obama after they get through listening to McBush when he starts peddling how great the surge is going, and why we need to make tax cuts for the ultra-rich permanent, and when his solution to the foreclosure/credit crisis is to convene a commission of accountants. Believe me, Jeremiah Wright isn't 1/10 the albatross George W Bush will be -- and McCain is tying himself to Dubya at the ankles and wrists.

More I think for some Tuzla was an 'unforced error' of great magnitude. She didn't have to make those statements, those exaggerations, they served no real purpose. So she ends up, like many of us, caught up in defending a stupid lie. Like her defense of a stupid war, this just make people question not her competence or policy, but her integrity and common sense.

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Oh, what the hell these guys know, they are just law professors..

Ya know I went to law school and I actually agree with this in a lot of ways.

Law professors who are tenured and make a full-time career of it are some of the the most myopic, naive silly-minded people I ever met.

But I'm talking about the full-timers. The article explains that he had a special status that is reserved for professors who are politicians or other figures with positions that require a lot of their attention.

The whole Tuzla thing seemed silly and inconsequential to me: except for the context that it came as part her Ready on Day One argument, and thus undermined the central thrust of her campaign. Of course, the same was true of Pastorgate, but Obama just found such an eloquent and couragous way to respond to that. I think if she drops more, it will have more to do with people buying the Let's Unify Behind the Winner argument. That argument works more subtly, more subconsciously on people. No one wants to be told, you can't support Candidate X, because she has no chance of winning. But if you hear Candidate X has no chance of winning, and that Candidate Y is the best hope of your party to take the White House, and you keep hearing that, then eventually you'll say, Yeah, I'm with Candidate Y.

THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILARY!!!

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too true.

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