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Ferraro Resigns From The Clinton Campaign

Geraldine Ferraro has announced in a letter to Hillary Clinton that she is resigning from Hillary's campaign finance committee:

Dear Hillary –

I am stepping down from your finance committee so I can speak for myself and you can continue to speak for yourself about what is at stake in this campaign.

The Obama campaign is attacking me to hurt you.

I won't let that happen.

Thank you for everything you have done and continue to do to make this a better world for my children and grandchildren.

You have my deep admiration and respect.

Gerry


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Her white children and grandchildren...

"The Obama campaign is attacking me to hurt you."

Nice departing jab. "See how I did that... I'm flipping on em' Hilly" :)

I wonder how that meshes with her previous comments that people were attacking her because she is white?

Interesting what you see when the white robes with the pointy masks come off.

The Obama campaign is attacking me to hurt you.

She just doesn't get it. She really thinks that what she is saying is legit. Amazing. I actually feel bad for her. Will someone from the Clinton campaign explain to her that she's said some stupid and offensive shit over the last few days? Maybe she'll listen to friends.

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Huh. I thought she didn't work for the Clinton campaign. That's what she said, didn't she?

And if she keeps talking, it's still going to be a problem, because she's going to be identified as a "Clinton supporter" every time she opens her mouth.

This is just ugly, at this point.

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Yup... that's what she said! So if we can't trust that statement of her.... well, hmmmm

Yuck!

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What a complete shithead.

Ferraro has damaged her reputation more than anyone else this election season. Hillary still has a chance to catch her for that honor, but it'll be hard to do.

I think Hillary got that honor, at least for a lot of us. Sure, her supporters pretty much refuse to acknowledge (or maybe many of them don't know) all the lies and dirty tactics and blatant hypocrisy coming from her, so maybe they will still like her, but I think her and Bill both soiled their reputations in this campaign (I didn't start out hating either of them, they earned that honor through hard work).

Gerry just went from obscurity to the nut house. No one cared about her before this, and no one is going to care afterwards, so she doesn't lose too much.

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I cared about her before this, and hence I was deeply disappointed to see all the crazy coming out of her mouth. :(

Oh, brother.

I, too, am unassociated with any campaign. So let me speak from the heart:

Good riddance, you miserable wretch. You do represent the ideals of the Democratic Party. You have done your damage and now you have moved on. Congratulations! You have also ruined your reputation forever. You have not apologized because you cannot grasp what your words have done.

Don't let the door hit your miserable ass on the way out.

Er, do NOT represent.

That's what happens when you post something with clenched-teeth anger. Apologies.

Please...what nonsense.

BARF.

'The Obama campaign is attacking me to hurt you.'?? WTF???? Who in the Obama campaign is attacking her?

And the key phrase is, 'I'm stepping down so I can SPEAK FOR MYSELF...' Does this mean she's not going to shut up about Lucky Black Men (tm)? Looks like it.

Wow what a *$#@$

Amen.

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That letter made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

That letter made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

I would like to propose a moratorium on this phrase, please. No offense intended, but it was only funny for a few months when it first appeared in common usage a few years ago. It has run it's course. Snettles has spoken!

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A few years ago? I'm 35 and we said that in elementary school.

And it will never get old.

NEVAH!

And didn't she say, as part of her initial defense, that she wasn't part of the campaign? I guess someone explained to her what it means to be a National Finance Co-Chair.

24 hours too late.

So much for sound judgement and leadership, Hillary.

Ferraro is playing what Bill Maher suggested is the 'older white woman against the young black man' card.

Next thing she'll say is, "just please take my purse Barack, but don't shoot me."

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Maher has to be pissed that this, of all weeks, is his show's week off.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

I like to think they all got scared by the impending Keith Olbermann Special Comment scheduled for tonight.

I'm not kidding about this. He is probably going to eviscerate them both tonight. Set your DVRs.

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Love your avatar. That guy is definitely on the list...

I also love the avatar.

me three!

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Wow...even better!

Stay classy, Gerry!

"I go now to spend time building my bunker against the darkies."

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My bunker, which I call "Archie."

(With apologies to Will Bunch.)

This woman has a pattern, and doesn't unapologetic.

Geraldine Ferraro is a bona fide racist. April 15, 1988, Washington Post:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/11/21956/1233/291/474642

How classless. At least Samantha Power had the taste and good sense to just resign quietly, without feeling the need to get in some last-minute shots, and let the issue die. If Ferraro is at all representative of the Hillary campaign we can expect quite the 4-year gong show if she get the White House.

Ferraro is just an instrument here. I want to hear the campaign reject and or denounce her remarks, not aid and abet her martyrdom.

Geraldine Ferraro is a lovely woman who solely pointed out a fact, correctly "if Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position." However, Gerry, you're being attacked because you are pro-Clinton by the Obamaistas and left wing media like KOS, MSNBC of no ratings, TPM, and other leftist Obama loving sites. Not too sure about the white stuff though.

However, you are correct, "if Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position." UPWARD MOBILITY, Obama a third year part time US Senator, former Illinois State Senator, a statutory part time job, and "community organizer" whatever that job description encompasses. I think Tony Rezko meets the same job description.

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If Obama were a white man, Hillary would've already stepped down.

So long, Gerri! So long, Black Privilege!

Boring and wrong.

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Dear Marginal,

this much:

However, you are correct, "if Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position."

is true. He'd be the nominee at this point, because this race would have been over in January.

Now what else were you saying?

Yeah, there are way too many people getting the U.S. presidency based on affirmative action, so right. All these Blacks, Latinos, Asians, South East Asians, Middle Easterns and so on taking over the oval office. These days it is hard to know whether you are in the White House or in U.N.. Frankly, you are lucky if you find a White man cleaning or working in security.

What also seems to need a review is the legacy thing. Because, it is too bad that only Black guys can make it to president, but it is not good either that out of the White minority with access to the Executive power only Bushes and Clintons are entitled.

Nasty, bitter, passive aggressive. Pitch perfect.
And so much for her not working for Hillary.

ROFLMAO

Thank you for everything you have done and continue to do to make this a better world for my children and grandchildren.

This from someone who makes money off the backs of immigrants making 3 cents a stitch working in sweatshops on the lower east side of NY...

A SOHO building partially owned by U.S. Senate candidate Geraldine Ferraro and managed by her husband, John Zaccaro, has housed 35 Chinese garment-manufacturing companies over the past few years--many of them nonunion and some apparently illegal.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/9810,212225,143,1.html

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Wow, MrJJ, when I read your link, what popped up was this speculation: Ferraro would know how to achieve illegal Hillary fundraising using NY immigrants/dishwashers as front donors. You remember, the ones who were able to donate a thousand or so each to Hillary, the ones who couldn't be found in any data bases or voter rolls.....

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You kidding? Show us the link, 'cause it ain't the one he gave. Or, you are kidding.

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I want to thank Ms. Ferraro for helping us to see the truth in all of this smoke!

I do not believe that we are helping our situation if we refuse to see what is right in front of our faces.

It is plain that Barack Obama would not be in the position he is in, if he were white! He would not have made it through the winnowing process of the primaries against Senators Dodd and Biden and Richardson, Kucinich and the others. He is less experienced and less proven. There is nothing that says that these other candidates could not have "brought us together" as Obama desires to do. Being black does not make him more able to do that! He has benefitted from this being the election where we would elect either our first female, or first black president. That has seemingly overshadowed the real issues we face in this country.

I am also of mixed race. I believe I understand the confusion and energy around race in this country, having lived it and observed it. I think that it does allow a valuable perspective about race to have the experiences I have had.

I think I understand our society's limitations of women, though from a less experiential perspective.

I believe there is a very real prejudice against women being in positions of power. Simply look around and notice how few there are.

That said, it is also true that Hillary Clinton would not be where she is if she hadn't been married to Bill Clinton. This is equally true! That is not to say she might not have been able to make her way to the Senate on her own, without that connection and international visibility. I believe her to be a very capable candidate. But, it remains that she has benefitted from her marital relationship. This doesn't disqualify her, it simply is the truth.

It saddens me to see that Ms. Ferraro's telling it like it is, has turned into such ugliness and revealed the lack of a quality conversation around the choice of our national leadership.

We are in a very sad state, indeed!

I would love to hear more people willing to say what they see and feel without censoring their truth, for the fear that they will be misunderstood, and attacked. I understand the reluctance to do so in the current environment.

That would be something I would expect somewhere like Nazi Germany and not what is purportedly the greatest democracy on Earth! There needs to be a free exchange of ideas! We are certainly far from that.

We need more truth tellers, Not fewer!

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How many women are there in the Senate?

You're acting like Hillary will be relegated to birthin' babies if she doesn't win the nomination. Don't be absurd. Hillary Clinton was from Arkansas until she moved to Washington, DC. Then, after eight years, she was suddenly from New York! Then she was elected to the Senate! Wake Rip Van Ferraro up when a black person, male or female, is able to pull off that miracle.

It is plain that Barack Obama would not be in the position he is in, if he were white! He would not have made it through the winnowing process of the primaries against Senators Dodd and Biden and Richardson, Kucinich and the others. He is less experienced and less proven. There is nothing that says that these other candidates could not have "brought us together" as Obama desires to do. Being black does not make him more able to do that! He has benefitted from this being the election where we would elect either our first female, or first black president. That has seemingly overshadowed the real issues we face in this country.

For a whole bunch of words, you realize you aren't saying a damn thing here? Not a single coherent point to bolster your conclusion that she's speaking the truth.

How any intelligent person can label the following "truth" is beyond me. Opinion, fine. But when people start throwing words like "fact" and "truth" out there it really diminishes their credibility.

"It is plain that Barack Obama would not be in the position he is in, if he were white! He would not have made it through the winnowing process of the primaries against Senators Dodd and Biden and Richardson, Kucinich and the others."

None of this is "truth." It's an unprovable opinion, which you are more than allowed to have in this fine democracy. But you must be able to stand by your opinions, and in the end, live with their consequences.

Ferraro was unable to defend her opinion admirably, people disagreed (including Hillary), and she's tarnished what was otherwise a solid legacy.

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Perhaps you didn't notice that when there were 10 Democrats running, and HRC was the presumed frontrunner, nobody was talking about Obama being in a privileged position because of his skin color. It was his answers to questions, and his speeches, that made people sit up and take notice. At that time, polls showed over 80% of Black voters supporting HRC. She lost them when Barack Obama showed us who he is. She also lost me, a white guy with a picture of Bill Clinton on his wall (which I have since taken down).

HRC has lost her lead because we found a better candidate who has shown the judgement and temperament to be Commander in Chief while she has whined and complained that people aren't voting for her because of her gender, then has the nerve to say people are voting for Obama due to his race. Tell that to the voters in Iowa, Idaho, Montana, Nebraska, Kansas, etc. And meanwhile HRC takes every opportunity, even during debates to say that women should vote for her because of her gender. Now she uses her surrogates who have nothing to lose, like Ferraro, to blatantly appeal to racist voters. Even if they don't see themselves as racists, they are happy to use those who are to get votes. When you lie down with dogs...........

He would not have made it through the winnowing process of the primaries against Senators Dodd and Biden and Richardson, Kucinich and the others.

Ah yes, Obama's organizational skills in Iowa had nothing to do with his beating the entire slate in the pivotal first contest. The uber-white Iowa elected him... because he's black!

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Bob, c'mon now. Did being black help Jesse Jackson? He's great orator too. And let's be clear, GF didn't just say that being black has helped Obama (which in itself is debatable given he also loses some votes dues to his ethnicity), but she asserted that his ethnicity was the MAIN REASON he has been this successful, which is utter, baseless nonsense.

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It is plain that Barack Obama would not be in the position he is in, if he were white! He would not have made it through the winnowing process of the primaries against Senators Dodd and Biden and Richardson, Kucinich and the others.

Try this:

It is plain that John Kennedy would not be in the position he is in, if he were white! He would not have made it through the winnowing process of the primaries against Senators Humphrey and Johnson and Governor Stevenson and the others.

Get it? Do you see how asinine this line of reasoning is?

Don't try to justify it. Just don't.

There she goes, leaving with all the grace and class we've come to expect from Hillary's campaign.

But I have a feeling they let her keep her official campaign dogwhistle when she was clearing out her desk.

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The message is out- mission accomplished. Did you all read Josh's link to Attytood today about Archie Bunker democrats? It rolled out everything I've been thinking since South Carolina.

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For those that missed it:

http://www.attytood.com/2008/03/geraldine_ferraro_and_hillarys.html

"Those were the DAYS!!!"

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Thanks- I'm too lazy to figure out links, youtube embeds, blockquotes, etc.

I agree with some who said it here;

Ferraro's mission is accomplished, now she can go. She's stirred the pot and sent the CODED MESSAGE to the racist Clinton supporters.

Whiskey Tango Echo, man, could the Clintons get any more vile and dirty...?!?

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Yes. The siren song of "Whites are getting a raw deal 'cause of all those minorities!" is now in full bloom. Thanks, Clintons, for yet another uplifting moment in our country.

Geez, stop the boo hooing Gerry, get over yourself! Hillary's pity party is running on bare tires. Go away, far away.....please!

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Want to take action?
Call Howard Dean
202-863-8000


You will be put through directly to Dean's comment line. My message was that Ferraro as a senior member of the party can be and should be taken to account by her peers, the DNC leadership. While they cannot undo the hurt she has inflicted on anyone of color who has achieved something in our society, they can offset the harm she has done to our party. How?

strip her of her superdelegate status.

lol, she even goes out on a crazy note

yes, unlike when the Hillary campaign went after Power's head, that wasn't to hurt Obama, nooo...

hey, it isn't like Ferraro was a senior foreign policy advisor, it isn't about hurting her campaign, it is about a crazy person with a history of bigoted remarks, and it is about fairness

This is so symptomatic of "old racism". People who suffer from old racism are so numb to their own prejudices that they can't see past it. I think she legitimately believes she said nothing wrong. It's like kids these days calling each other "f@gs" and thinking there's nothing wrong or offensive about it. They just can't fathom that there's anything wrong.

Gerry is a pissed-off lady who has believed for the past year that her avenging angel Hillary was going to win the election in some kind of cake-walk coronation. Now that Obama is the odds-on candidate her true colors are showing at last. She's so upset and in such a state of stunned disbelief that she can't control herself.

Sad.

THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!!! FOR HILLARY!!!!

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Samantha Power resigned almost instantly, with no whining or parting shots at the Clinton campaign. It's too bad Ferraro doesn't have the same class. But she's served her purpose and the message is out for Pennsylvania.

your comments says more about you than gerry ferraro resigning.

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Who were you replying to?

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I hope that she is able to get some time away and get some perspective about why her remarks are insensitive and inappropriate.

A more thoughtful person would really say something like - I can see how what I said could be offensive and I apologize. Instead, she plays victim and goes on all the talk shows to decry the Obama campaign.

It's all really sad. The kind of thing we should have expected in the general election.

I don't think the Hillary campaign had anyhting to do with her comments and they were put in a tough spot just as Obama was with Powers and her "monster" comment. To Obama and Powers credit they took responsibility and acted swiftly. The Clinton campaign fumbled and bumbled until now and coupled with WY and Mississippi results, completely have lost any and all good news coming out of March 4.



I'll pass on your sentiments to Presidents Jackson, Sharpton and Mosely-Braun. Dumbass.

SHOO!

The damage has been done. The Clinton strategy of white victimization has been put into play. Ferraro is now the martyr of political correctness that will spur Clinton "low information" white voters to the polls. Remember, she says she won't stop doing the media circuit. Just that she won't do so under the rubric of the Clinton Campaign. Plausible deniability. If you thought Mississippi black/white voting was lopsided, wait until you see Pennsylvania's.

Hillary will indeed take that state by at least 25 points.

Clearly, this is a calculated move by the Clinton campaign.

Well done good and faithful servant!

Nonsense. This presumes everyone in Pennsylvania is either stupid or bigoted.

"I'm a crazy old lady from crazy land, and I need to be free to spout my crazy talk!"

They just don't make em like Geri anymore! Thank god.


Geri The Jackass. I was sure she was going to cry on Good Morning America.

Don't worry Geri - Chris Mathews is taking up your cause and spinnin the hell out of what you said.

You've come a long way baby! Now go away.

"Thank you for everything you have done and continue to do to make this a better world for my children and grandchildren."

...and the Republican Party come the general election.

Ms. Ferraro, you will not be missed.

The Clinton gang know a winner when they see one. I think it actually helps them, the fact that Ferraro has dominated the news cycle so completely. It's straight out of the Republican playbook. Pretty impressive (in a puke-inducing sense).

Martyrdom is right. I suspect it happened sort of accidentally but what a great one-two punch.

#1: TAKE HEED everyone!! In case you haven't noticed: he's BLACK. That means bad things, like the fact that he doesn't have any 'real' qualities, he's just in fashion this year.

#2: Another one of the bad things about his being BLACK is that little old white ladies wind up getting beat up. Remember me, over here in the corner bleeding, when you go to vote.

If she didn't mean her comments in a racist way, then this would be a wonderful opportunity for dialog, to show how strong and pure-of-heart Clinton and her supporters are.

You know, this politics of high emotion and victimization is really doing an awfully good job of reinforcing the very worst stereotypes about women. Reminds me of the first (maybe only?) woman baseball umpire. She was scheduled to have her first public appearance at a minor league park but didn't show up for the game.... turns out she was having an emotional melt-down back at the hotel, had locked herself in her room, just anticipating that people might say something unpleasant things to her.

I'm a woman so I hope I have standing to say that all this crap is insulting and demeaning .... to WOMEN! **Most** of us manage to act like grown-ups, some pretty exceptional and admirable grown-ups.

a "better world" ....

Polka: Yep, and as Kos points out on his site, after Gerry went out and continued her rant on all the networks this morning she decided to pile on to the friendly, Angry White Guy audience of Bill O'Reilly! That might actually be worse than Bill Clinton showing up on Limbaugh's show before Texas & Ohio voted.

How can anyone defend these tactics???


Ferraro should have known better that to speak the obvious truth in the current political environment. If Bill Clinton was crucified for saying that Jesse Jackson won the South Carolina primary, she should have known better than to point out that 98% of blacks and guilt- ridden liberals are voting for Obama primarily because he is black.

As good Democrats, we all must go on pretending that race has absolutely nothing to do with the current race, even when 70% of whites are voting for Clinton while 90% of blacks for Obama. Then when Obama inevitably loses to McCain in the fall because the country was never ready for a black president (or even discussing the fact that he's black and what that really means), we will at least have had the satisfaction of knowing that his color didn't matter to us, and that the Republicans and Independents are the real racists because they voted on the basis of color. Unlike the Democratic voters of Mississippi.

So either way, we win by proving we're better than them, and that's all that really matters in the end. Isn't it?

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We need more racists like you in the party. NOT.

Thanks for proving my point.

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Ferraro should have known better that to speak the obvious truth in the current political environment.

It's neither true nor obvious to me that a black individual named Barack Hussein Obama, running for president, is where he is today because he's black. Gimme a break.

Than give us your explanation as to why 70% of white voters in Mississippi voted for Clinton while over 90% voted for Obama - an explanation that has absolutely nothing to do with their race. If race weren't a factor in the Democratic primary, you simply wouldn't have such lopsided vote totals. We know that gender is an issue too, and we're not afraid to talk about that even though the difference between men and women voting is nothing when compared with white vs black.

My problem with Obama is not that he's getting over 90% of the black vote - my problem is that he doesn't say anything about it because, so far, it has worked for him. I don't hear him saying to black voters, "don't vote for me because I'm black." And I don't here him saying to white voters, "Don't be afraid of me because I'm black." I don't see him saying anything about race at all, even though race has always been one of the most important issues in America, and it's even more important and relevant in this particular presidential race. Instead, what he and his campaign do is to demonize anyone who dares to talk about race as being a factor in this campaign.

There's an opportunistic shortsightedness about Obama's campaign that, when the reality of the situation finally comes through as it inevitably will, it's likely going to bite Democrats in the butt this November because, as a party, we had our heads in the sand and were afraid to even talk about race.

"What he (Obama) and his campaign do is to demonize anyone who dares to talk about race as being a factor in this campaign."

You bring up a good point, but you have to understand that it goes the same way regarding gender -- if what you said about Obama seems plausible enough, than you have to admit that Clinton -- and yes, Ferraro as well -- are "demonizing" anyone that dares to talk about gender the same way Obama is talking about race.

Obama doesn't talk about race. Obama said just today that discussions about race are "counterproductive."
At the same time, he complained that Clinton invokes race in oh-so-subtle ways. He won't talk about race, but he is effectively calling the Clinton racist to discredit her campaign and keep his margins up within the black community. It's a very dangerous game, and I don't see Hillary playing the same game at all.

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WTF? "So either way, we win by proving we're better than them, and that's all that really matters in the end. Isn't it?"

No, I guess we win by acting exactly like them (i.e. shunning minority candidates from rising too far in The Pary, but, wait, would that include women, too?).

BTW, what Gerrie said is NOT correct. 1) Obama is not where he is because he is African American (obviously it's an anamoly rather than the expected fate of other Lucky Black Men just like him all over the country), and 2) she was not being attacked because she is white (her comments were scrutinized because what she said is demonstrably false, and racially insensitive to boot).


Thinking monkey, you've got some more thinkin' to do before you "get it" on race and politics.

. . . or even discussing the fact that he's black and what that really means . . .

I'll admit it. I'm dying to know. Tell me what it "really means" that Obama is black.

It means that Clinton gets 70% of the white vote while Obama gets 93% of the black vote.

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Wow, a lot of black people must have voted in Wyoming, then.

Oh, you're basing your assumption on a single state—Mississippi. Well, you know what happens when you assume…

I used to have an uncle in Chicago who hated Martin Luther King and constantly used the N - word. But he loved Sammy David Jr's voice and had all his records.

Obama is Sammy Davis Jr.

Obama's Jewish?

Your King hating uncle will be proud of you today. Keep it up.

By playing the race card, guilt ridden liberals have made support for Obama the litmus test of whether or not you are a racist. But what worked in the primaries is sure to fail in the general election.

Who cares?

I mean really. It seems doomed either way.

You are so dead on. Somehow I see a problem when 70 percent of the white Democratic vote is going for Hillary and 91 percent for Obama. I personally don't know of too many African American Republicans (except there is one who ran againt Obama, Mr. Keys of Maryland/IL after the prior GOP candidate was found to be a swinger).

If Obama keeps playing the race card, Obama electoral college victory will be the District of Columbia. Older Dems can easily vote for a McCain/Romney ticket over Obama/anybody.

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If Obama keeps playing the race card

Maggie Williams, is that you hiding behind "marginal player"? Who else could possibly say that Obama is playing the race card when it's a Clinton supporter who has explicitly brought race into the discussion and unrepentantly cries "racis" during that discussion?

Black is white. Up is down. Hillary is winning.

Perhaps it's time the 'older dems' are taken out to pasture, then? I'm a white woman in my thirties. I support Obama. Not because of his color, or his gender, or his name. It's because I agree with this stances on policy, his judgment, and his ability to handle a crisis. I'm not supporting him because of some kind of "white guilt" or "latte liberalism". Painting your fellow dems with such a broad brush makes me think you're in the wrong party.

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Please tell me: What does is "really mean" to be black.

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In 1984, the Democratic Party made history when it bit the bullet, took the chance, and nominated Geraldine Ferraro to run as the Democratic candidate for the vice presidency. It was about the only good thing to come out of that race. Most of you are probably too young to remember what she endured for all future women candidates. It was ugly but she held her ground in a losing effort and she made us proud.

Now she has made a huge blunder, said some stupid things, and people with no sense of history, who care only about winning this election, treat her like a freak or worse. I can understand why this makes Ms. Ferraro angry just as I can also understand why her words have made others angry. But I cannot understand the glee over her public humiliation.

Josh can call her a clown, and perhaps he has substantive grounds to do so based on her odd string of TV appearances, but I say to you that the Democratic Party and the progressive coalition owe Ms. Ferraro a little more than ridicule.

Some of you folks seem so intent on winning this thing that I think you have lost all perspective. Geraldine Ferraro is an ally of the progressive coalition who has worked on behalf of the civil rights movement in this country for decades. She is not a racist and mark my words, if Senator Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, he can and he will be knockng on Ms. Ferraro's door.

Prediction: Senator Obama will try and put this thing to bed as soon as he can. The only folks who think this is good thing for him politically are the folks who frequent this and other lefty blogs. The rest of the country doesn't like to see an elderly women with cancer who once ran for vice president being ridiculed and accused of racism. Keith Olbermann (a former Cornell classmate of mine) should be guided accordingly tonight, but I am not holding my breath.

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Geraldine Ferraro is a racist hag, and progressives owe her nothing but a kick in the pants on her way out the door. She dishonors the party she claims to represent.

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Feed your hate.

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No kidding.

This is an prime example of why Obama's promise of change is so very empty.

These people are beyond vile. Ms. Ferraro is one of the most respected women in the democratic party. I think these people are all closet freepers trying to destroy our party from within.

They aren't liberals, progressives, or interested in "change."

You missed a couple of words:


These people who are trying to justify/defend Ms. Ferraro's statement are beyond vile. Ms. Ferraro is one of the most respected women in the democratic party, that said, she made an incredible destructive and stupid comment that no progressive should endorse and that seems at odd with reality. I think these people are all closet freepers trying to destroy our party from within.

There, fixed it.

You are basing your opinion about a movement on a random comment in a discussion group. Logical fallacy, much?

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Respected?

Most people thought she was dead until a couple of weeks ago.

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Yo hater. You called Ms. Ferraro a racist and a "hag". Hag is a sexist term so you are at best the pot calling the kettle black.

What a joke. You express rage over Ms. Ferraro's racism and then you sound like a sexist pig. So hypocritical on your part that it's almost hilarious.

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Wallow in your hate. USE your hate. Become one with the darkness. Hillary is your Lord and Savior. You must rip out and destroy the root of goodness that is within you. Darth Hillary is your salvation. There is power in the Dark Side. Give in to it. Hillary '08.

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Cute follow-up, but substantively meaningless.

I see no retraction of your sexist, swine-like comment, to wit, that Ms. Ferraro is a "hag". As such, two quick points: (a) you prove without ambiguity that you are a hypocrite; and (b) by not retracting what you wrote you prove you are a sexist pig.

I'm old enough to remember, and I thought highly of her. She has gone through the personal ringer as well with her husband and her son.

However, what she said was stupid. It would have ended there if she didn't compound the blunder by acting like "how dare you criticize me, I'm Gerry Ferraro!" SHe is a victim, just like Hillary. People are tired of that from the Democrats. I can't stand Bush, but I respect the fact that he doesn't act like a victim.

The notion that he will be knocking on her door is a bit silly, as well. She is of the old, "fighting" wing of the party. Old politics. That was the problem with Edwards as well. More interested in fights than results.

Gerry will go back to Blank and Rhome and will never be heard from again. She older than McCain, shouldn't she be in Vero Beach by now anyway?

And, by the way, when did Keith Olberman pass the threshold of relevance? He was fabulous sitting next to Dan Patrick, since then, 100% hack. He is not even close to influential. Buffoon, yes; influential, not even close.


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"The notion that he will be knocking on her door is a bit silly".

Wanna bet?

Her brand of politics gets him nothing.

Like I said, I remember her and I bet she could have been valuable, but the demographic that she helps with has been poisoned by she and Hillary and will vote for one of their own, John McCain.

Young people don't want a fighter, they want competence and judgement, something that is lacking on the CLinton side of the discussion.

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Birds:

Thank you for your polite colloquy. I can tell you that I am the very proud father of four children, three of whom are voting age and each of whom is an ardent supporter of Senator Obama. My 18-year old son cast his first vote ever in the NY Primary for Obama, he was leafletting at the train station at 6 AM on the day before the election, and last week he spent the afternoon making calls to folks in Ohio on behalf of Obama. Now he's getting ready to make some trips to Pennsylvania. He has made me really proud even when we argue about the relative strengths of our respective candidates. I am very familiar with what young folks want and I applaud Senator Obama for inspiring the next generation of leaders. I'm not sure I agree with you, however, that uniting and not dividing is a concept that was invented by Obama. :)

I don't have bad feelings about Senator Obama (other than the kinds of feelings you get in the midst of a heated campaign) and I will support him wholeheartedly if he is the nominee of the Democratic Party. That said, I spend lots of time here and I am totally not into the whole intra-party character assasination thing. I don't defend Geraldine Ferraro for what she said but I do defend her integrity and I am grateful for her service to this country and to the Democratic Party. I will not take away a lifetime of service for what she has done in the past few days. But that's just me and, I think, millions of other folks who ain't posting here.

Finally, I think Obama will call on Ferraro because: (a) he is supposed to be a uniter; but (b) in any event, he will need the cash she can raise. Remember, this ain't beanbag. Regards.

Bruce

Finally, I think Obama will call on Ferraro because: (a) he is supposed to be a uniter; but (b) in any event, he will need the cash she can raise. Remember, this ain't beanbag. Regards.

a) I agree that he is a uniter, but he is also pragmatic. His vision is a forward viewing vision. Despite what she has done in the last 24 years in the private sector, she is only really relevant as the last non-white man national candidate - 24 years ago!!! Your kids weren't born yet. He should move beyond her and let her ride into the sunset as gracefully as possible.

b) He absolutely does not need her to raise money. He raised 55 Million Dollars in February. He is in great financial shape, and should opt for public financing to strap McCain anyway. The estimates are that he will bring in 50 new house members, and his money for their campaigns will go over well.

Peace.

Finally, I think Obama will call on Ferraro because: (a) he is supposed to be a uniter; but (b) in any event, he will need the cash she can raise. Remember, this ain't beanbag. Regards.

a) I agree that he is a uniter, but he is also pragmatic. His vision is a forward viewing vision. Despite what she has done in the last 24 years in the private sector, she is only really relevant as the last non-white man national candidate - 24 years ago!!! Your kids weren't born yet. He should move beyond her and let her ride into the sunset as gracefully as possible.

b) He absolutely does not need her to raise money. He raised 55 Million Dollars in February. He is in great financial shape, and should opt for public financing to strap McCain anyway. The estimates are that he will bring in 50 new house members, and his money for their campaigns will go over well.

Peace.

bslev at 5:52, then tell her to apologize, if she is such a stalwart progressive and civil rights champion tell her to f!cking apologize. personally. call Barack and apologize.

Otherwise I agree with BlueStateRedHead at 5:39 that the DNC should discipline her in some way. Not now, but at the convention. Samantha Power is not even a citizen and could not be a delegate, super- or otherwise; she was just an academic advisor. Ferraro is a party official who abused her party position and her campaign position to denigrate one of the two leading candidates for the Democratic nomination. I can see the credentials committee revoking her credentials in a heartbeat.

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Vote of confidence in the Dem party, also me.

Thanks Fractal @ 6:12. I had written in the heat of the moment-literally, having just arrived from abroad. I wondered if I had reacted too strongly, given GF's freespeech rights. Thank for doing the thinking that I should have done before writing.


She speaks as a superdelegate. She divides the party as a superdelegate. She errs as a superdelegate. She hurts the party as a superdelegate and like Lieberman, she ceases to be a superdelegate. Or should cease.

This is a test of Dean's leadership and thus of his power for the MI/FL vote. He and the DNC cannot wait anylonger because between the FL/MI and Ferraro affairs, HRC's campaign is doing the republicans work for them.

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No one is accusing her of being a racist. We are pointing out that she is one. She proved it by her coments.

Prediction: Senator Obama will try and put this thing to bed as soon as he can. The only folks who think this is good thing for him politically are the folks who frequent this and other lefty blogs. The rest of the country doesn't like to see an elderly women with cancer who once ran for vice president being ridiculed and accused of racism.

I agree, and in a way he already has. This whole dust-up was cleverly handled by the Clinton camp to fan the fumes of racial divide, which they appear to believe helps them in Penn.

Look at the chain of events: Hillary starts with her "I disagree" response, followed by Maggie Williams "look at them play the race card" retort, then Wolfsen's "we've clearly rejected it all along" confusion, and finally this non-apologetic resignation by Ferraro of a position she purportedly never held.

The reason this is a story is the Clinton camp fanned it. IMO, they like the way this plays into those rural areas of Penn filled with working class folks that are looking for someone to blame for their loss of jobs. Her words sound an aweful lot like alligations of affirmative action, which is sure to play well there. I for one hope it backfires.

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If she's not a racist, she's a tool of those who have used her to say what they want said. Race is the American original sin and using it as a wedge to divide your own party and incite further division in your own country is about as vile a strategy as I can imagine. I seriously cannot imagine a more despicable campaign strategy. But I'll place the blame where it belongs -- on Hillary Clinton.

Meh. To be totally honest, I am quite tired of the mechanics of the Democratic party being so ruled by "this person did something important 24 years ago, you owe them".

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GF ain't no saint, or hero. Her history and track record has some highlights, but also some lowlights. She chose politics and knows what to say and when to say it. She shoved her own foot deep in her own mouth, and then chose to shove it deeper rather than take any kind of high road to rephrase her truly insensitive remarks.

Anger? Hell yes! Some of us Dems expect something a bit better than the slovenly performance we just witnessed from someone we used to think of fondly as the Dem's example of progressiveness. And then she goes out there and undoes the whole darn thing. Yetch!

Contrast with Samantha Power who said she had a moment of weakness which unfortunately hurt someone she deeply admires and respects. How her comments were hurtful and she was sorry for them.

What a b*%$h, oh sorry, is that a feminist jab?

At least someone got to her and told her she was hurting the ticket...if not the party. Lets see what the next few days bring from the classy lady...

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Dear Hillary –

I am stepping down from your finance committee so I can speak for myself against the Black Threat and you can continue to speak for yourself about why you and the Republicans are better for this country than a negro.

The Obama campaign is attacking me because I am white.

I won't take crap from a negro.

Thank you for everything you have done and continue to do to make this a better world for white people.

Sisters in whitedom forever.

Gerry

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Thanks for the laugh.

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And she had the nerve to talk about how she has worked for civil rights for 40 years in one of those ridiculous interviews she did. If she truly got the concept of equal rights, she'd never have said the f&*#ed up things she has, about Obama recently and about Jesse Jackson 20+ years ago.

She embodies that republican slur against democrats and civil rights to a "t". The derogatory right-wing comments about the supposedly big-hearted whiteys who claim they care about racial and ethic minorities but really prefer to forever be in the "helper" role rather than allowing minorities to do for themselves.

I say this is a sign of the times, and Geraldine and other small-minded old-school lefties need to step aside now and let people like Obama move forward on their own.

He doesn't need your help, Gerrie, fundraising or otherwise. If you can't do anything constructive regarding race relations, just shut up and get out of the way.

No problem there. I'll be happy to step aside on election day for you all to take your man over the top.

Too bad for Ferraro and for America. She may be a bit testy in the current campaign but her comment and comparison about Obama's success based on his race is true. If he was not Black, he absolutely would not be where he is today in the campaign. I think he is the benefit of affirmative action by many supporters finding this a way to prove they are not racist and to relieve any perceived guilt. This becomes the Obama Cult because pointing out facts like his lack of experience, his spoonfed success in Illinois Senate, his corruption with Rezko, his lies about this and other things, his pandering (e.g., NAFTA), his rudeness, and so forth is met with disbelief--almost as if the critique is not politically correct--and often followed by accusations of being racist. Ferraro is right, remove race from the equation and folks would have a hard time believing and supporting Obama. It is sad that this is occurring and it will be the downfall of the Democratic party this fall if Obama secures the nomination as result of this affirmative-action blank check to the nomination that so many people are rushing to provide.

"It is sad that this is occurring and it will be the downfall of the Democratic party this fall if Obama secures the nomination as result of this affirmative-action blank check to the nomination that so many people are rushing to provide."


I think that you're probably racist. I mean, just a little, right Matt?

The truth is not racist. Your rants are as bad as being racists. The Obama Cult that posts here are so close minded as to be easily comparable to skinheads and their like. Luckily, you and others like you are NOT representative of the Democratic party.

Are black people representative of the Democratic Party?

Yes, most African-Americans are part of the Democratic party. They are often blind members that vote with it regardless of who leads it and what they advocate. Obama has seized their support, around 90% in the latest primary. But, come election time, do remember that they are only 13% of the population. Loyal to the party, but still only a small fraction of voters needed to win. Obama has become the black candidate, taken this vote, to his detriment in the nomination process and, if he were to secure the nomination, to his loss and the party's loss in the fall. This is not racist but fact. If he is not the nominee the black vote still goes to the Democrats.

You know, the only real racism I see is coming from Obama's campaign and supporters, especially the Obama Cult that wants to label everything and everyone racist that doesn't agree with their viewpoint or candidate. This is so foolish, immature, and a sure course to failure.

Matt, Obama is polls ahead of both Clinton and McCain in head to head match ups. There's no way the 13% of the electorate you mentioned is wholey responsible for these poll results. Therefore, some other groups of people must also be voicing support for Obama. Who could they be? Who could they be?

Polls don't bear out this argument. Obama is doing fine against McCain. It will certainly be competitive. HRC, on the other hand, will lose a number of black voters because of her campaign's repeated race baiting.

Yeah, there are way too many people getting the U.S. presidency based on affirmative action, so right. All these Blacks, Latinos, Asians, South East Asians, Middle Easterns and so on taking over the oval office. These days it is hard to know whether you are in the White House or in U.N.. Frankly, you are lucky if you find a White man cleaning or working in security.

What also seems to need a review is the legacy thing. Because, it is too bad that only Black guys can make it to president, but it is not good either that out of the White minority with access to the Executive power only Bushes and Clintons are entitled.

So please explain. If he is here because of affirmative action, why has every other black candidate for president failed so miserably? Where were all these whites pining to assuage their guilt in 2004 when Carol Moseley Braun was running?

"The truth is not racist."

So you speak "truth," do you? That is most impressive.

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If you have a hard time with Obama supporters at this site, sure you can find some where people like to rail against minority candidates and mistakenly tie that to rants about affirmative action elsewhere. And just like Gerrie the racist, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. McCain will gladly take your bigot vote any day of the week. Just ask John Hagee.

Matthew is in denial about his racism. His level of denial is only exceeded by Hillary, who believes she still has a shot at winning the nomination.

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What an absolutely filthy, racist comment.

No, sorry, not racist. Just some clear thinking not blinded by being a member of the Obama Cult.

Clear racist thinkin'!

Normally I wouldn't do this but reading your comments and trying to follow your logic just compels me to want to share - you're just fucking stupid aren't you? Seriously. Take your time, reflect, think about your past. I think you'll see it too. You can only deny it for so long and then, boom! Like a brick to the head. You awaken to the reality. You're just fucking stupid.

The ignorance that permeates your statement knows no bounds.

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Yeah, I know when I think about what I don't like about Obama the first thing that comes to mind is.....his rudeness

ZOMG!!! Obama is rude!!@#!!

Hilarious. Hard to take anything else you say seriously after that...

"If he was not Black, he absolutely would not be where he is today in the campaign. I think he is the benefit of affirmative action by many supporters finding this a way to prove they are not racist and to relieve any perceived guilt."

What a steaming pile of horseshit that is, it seems that Hillary supporters will gleefully leave their common sense at the door and warmly embrace racism as if it was a long lost sibling. Especially when you consider that he was president of the Harvard Law Review, Professor of international politics and Constitutional Law, his time in the Illinois state Legislature, his time in the Senate - the mere fact that his oratory crushes Bill Clintons and he has more foreign policy experience than Bill had when he ran for president. To imply that he is where he is because of his skin tone is both insulting and intellectually lazy, only because you shamelessly promote a point that rational people already know is bullshit. Seriously, fuck you.

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Especially when you consider that he was president of the Harvard Law Review, Professor of international politics and Constitutional Law, his time in the Illinois state Legislature, his time in the Senate - the mere fact that his oratory crushes Bill Clintons and he has more foreign policy experience than Bill had when he ran for president.

None of that really matters, though, does it? You and I both know that the real reason we're supporting Obama is only because he's black. If he had exactly the same ideas and gave exactly the same speeches but he was white, we wouldn't give him the time of day. It's all about getting a brother into office, right? He could be a child molester and a crack dealer and we wouldn't care. Just as long as he's black, that's all that matters. Right? Yeeeahhh.... right.

I have been looking for someone or something more disgusting and racist than the comments of Ms. Ferraro.

I think I just found it.

What a vile human being you are.

Unaccomplished losers always bitch about affirmative action. They need an excuse for their own shortcomings.

From what I can tell, Obama is the best political talent in the Democratic party since Kennedy, regardless of race. He has as much relevant experience as George W. Bush or Bill Clinton, and has more experience that HRC in elected office. Granted he doesn't have as much experience as Dick Cheney or Don Rumsfeld, but he has adequate experience, by the standard set in previous elections.

Still, he must deal with the claim that he is only where he is because of race. Pathetic.

'cause really - there's no better way to be elected president than by being born black. History proves this.

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...and Hillary is soooo qualified right, having been the spouse of a Governor and then President, having only been in elective office for a few years? Nothing resembling affirmative action there. Nothing at all in her campaign's constant reference to her gender, as in "elect here because she is a woman. Yup, she only wears it on her shirtsleeve.

Oh, and thanx for further embarrassing the Democratic Party. I guess many of us foolishly hoped racism wouldn't rear its ugly head until the general election (which incidentally will be a side issue like your and Gerrie's black-hate).

If one candidate is trying to scare you and the other one is try get you to think, if one candidate is appealing to your fears and the other one is appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope. -Bill Clinton

I choose hope. You go with your fear.

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Your posts are so full of holes that it's like a private Spitzer-Vitter party.

I get that you don't like (upwardly-mobile) black people. I really do. But don't pretend that you're actually thinking when you make your statements. I'm sure that a black person is fine as long as they're serving you, but anything else is "affirmative-action" despite the fact that white women have been the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative-action.

Your post is not only breathtakingly stupid, but it has had the effect of whisking me back to a simpler time when one could get away with showing white hands ripping up a job application with ominous music playing in the background on a small market station in North Cackalackey in the heady late 1980s slash early 1990s.

So let me make sure I have this exactly right. I voted for Barack obama because I wanted to assuage my White Guilt.

Oh, lordy day. I must remember to go home and brush off my copy of To Kill A Mockingbird, settle in with some Billie Holliday, and sip slowly at a glass of scotch while I remind myself that ignorance often does not know partisan boundaries.

Thank you, Matthew Weaver. Thank you for helping to reaffirm in me exactly why I went to Youngstown for a week to volunteer on Obama's campaign.

Because you, and people like you, your time is coming to an end. Old ways of thinking, old ways of judging others. Sitting there with your balled up fists, angry at what the world hasn't given you, angry that the world itself has moved beyond a time when negroes didn't play their steel drums on street corners.

You are a sad sort of man.

Thank you for reinforcing me.

Geraldine, The Clueless.

Why couldn't Ferraro say Obama arrived where he is at because he has great character, or gives great speeches, or has shown fine judgment, or has positions similar to Hillary's, or maybe because hillary has such high negatives, democrats have to turn somewhere else? She could have even said it was because he is a man, and Hillary isn't (as far as I know...). No, Ferret has to credit skin color. Of all things...SKIN COLOR! And then she has the audacity to say her comments aren't racist, but she is being attacked because she is white? Hillary Clinton has many proponents who have ably advocated her candidacy without being attacked by the Obama campaign "because they are white." If Geraldine doesn't understand the distinction, she is as sharp as Dan Quayle. How can Ferraro be certain she wasn't attacked because she is Italian??? Gerry (a gender bending name like Gerry didn't hinder her career), you are pond scum for introducing this bile back into the forefront of this Democratic Party primary.

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Another loss for the master race.

Hey, Gerry! I didn't get *my* invite to the pity party? What up with that?

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She wouldn't let *you* play with her children and grandchildren. Somebody would get a firm scolding for letting you on the Ferraro property, if she happened to catch you on the backyard swingset.

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Something tells me that I'd want to stay clear of any rope on the Ferraro property...

(Kidding, folks...c'mon, if we can't laugh at racists...)

All due respect to all the foregoing comments, I think you're missing something. I'll quote:

"I am stepping down from your finance committee so I can speak for myself and you can continue to speak for yourself about what is at stake in this campaign."

So I can *continue* to speak for myself.

She's not done with this. Ferraro has merely been detatched from the campaign officially. She's going to continue churning this racist swill for the Clintonistas; today's development only gives Wolfson, et al. the cover to say 'Well, we can't comment on what a private citizen says; she's entitled to her views', etc.

In other words, they've just made it easier to move forward with this putrid strategy.

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Yep. I noticed that. But somehow, I think cooler heads will prevail--at least I hope so. Cooler heads who will sit with Ferraro and talk her down from doing something that she'll probably always regret...I think she's angry, and probably a bit racist, but I just don't see her deliberately going out of her way to stoke the white victim card...

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Thanks for pointing that out.

This whole episode, by the way, sheds a little light on what it means that the country is run by 70 year olds.

Yeah a real classy woman... look behind the mask

A SOHO building partially owned by U.S. Senate candidate Geraldine Ferraro and managed by her husband, John Zaccaro, has housed 35 Chinese garment-manufacturing companies over the past few years--many of them nonunion and some apparently illegal.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/9810,212225,143,1.html

bslev: Ferraro, if she is indeed an ally of the progressive coalition, should have known better than to inject race into her attempt to advocate for her candidate. For her to turn around and cry "I'm being attacked" for somehow being "honest" is a complete crock.

I see her comments as typical cheap dog-whistle messaging to all the anti-affirmative action racists out there who, they are hoping, will vote for Hillary. When she goes on O'Reilly (that true champion of the Progressive Cause) to continue pushing the message, it confirms my worst assumptions. If she resents being mocked then she shouldn't go out on a massive press offensive and lash out in a way that makes her appear slightly unhinged. That "elderly women with cancer" was about to snap Diane Sawyer's head off this morning.

If she was an ally of a coalition that was even remotely progressive, she wouldn't be supporting Sen. Clinton.

Having been the producet of a retro-grade community at the edge of the San Fernando Valley in the fifties and sixties which was then 95 percent white and 5 percent latino, I find myself hoping that someone will *itch slap the *itch until she wakes up.

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So what I'm seeing these days is that Hillary's supporters are so crazed to get her into office that they have quite literally lost their minds:

- They're now willing to write off Ted Kennedy and John Kerry--two of America's great liberal Senators--because they don't support Hillary.

- They're willing to twist themselves into pretzels in order to excuse and endorse the racist comments of Geraldine Ferraro simply because she's a Hillary supporter.

- They're willing to support a candidate who recently endorsed JOHN MCCAIN--the warmongering Mini Me to George W. Bush--even if it means another four years of the destruction of America.

- They're willing to insist that the votes in Michigan and Florida--states where the other candidates did not campaign or were not on the ballot--are "fair" because their candidate "won" in those states.

Hillary supporters: you've lost your minds. The grief of losing is driving you crazy. Think for a minute. You sound like goddamn Republicans. Not only that, but you're bordering on becoming racists. And for what? To get Hillary in office? She's using the black arts to turn you into cretins.

"Hillary supporters: you've lost your minds. The grief of losing is driving you crazy. Think for a minute. You sound like goddamn Republicans. Not only that, but you're bordering on becoming racists. And for what? To get Hillary in office? She's using the black arts to turn you into cretins."

You of all people shouldn't be talking about crazy. Please refer to your 4200 retarded and hateful posts, and then get back to me. Is this where you work out all of your anger issues? What, no Bitch comments today? Feeling a little blue?

What do you think Obama himself would say to the above, btw? Good to see that his message of hope, civility and change has filtered down to the troops. You're an arrogant hypocrite, engaging in the same character assassination you accuse HRC of employing.

As an African-American, I'm getting sick and tired of these racist accusations being thrown around like nothing. Usually by white people.

Geraldine had to go - what she said was ill-advised and ignorant. But now she's a racist hag? Where is the perspective?

Talk about the blind leading the blind.

Obama supporters: Unifying the Democratic Party with grace, wisdom and maturity since 2008.

Indie:
I don't give a rat's ass about the democratic party- especially a party that allows a candidate to continue- even after a) she declares her fellow democratic opponent to be unfit to be C-in-C and endorses McCain; b) Leaks a sinsiter "Islamic" costume photo to the press; c)And uses 3 A.M. republican adds to scare fucking morons in rural OH, who will be the last on earth to have any threat.

By the way, let's see if McCain calls her fit to be C-in-C. If I'm right repubs would call her nothing but a clean up lady after her husband's intern bang.

Hillary would do anything to be president; Though I always supported Obama, I respected my state senator and addressed her a Senator Clinton until a week before the March 4 primary. Then I was reminded Clintons are politcal whores.

I don't think Obama is a messaih who will save us all, but for sure he is the better candidate. And there no general trend on how a candidate supporter conducts himself or herself.

Take a look at you, you sound reasonable and rational even though you support Hillary.

She has done more for black people in general then anyone here including the people who run this site.

Care to qualify this sweeping assertion?

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Yeah, that's rich.

It's like wack-a-mole here now. The racist lunacy just keeps popping up and we gotta knock it back down over and over again.

It's why I have had difficulty really aligning myself with Democrats for a long time now. I'm registered Green, but actually excited about possibly voting for a Dem Pres candidate again for the first time since '92 (assuming Obama gets the nomination).

You are probably wasting your breath as most of these writers were at best in diapers when Ferraro was running for VP.

And yet our votes count just as much as yours. Black voters too. Must just burn you up inside Matt.

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I wasn't in diapers then, but that old-school racism sure feels good now for ya, don't it?

Can you provide me some examples of things she's done UNIQUELY for black people? Also, can you please explain why this is relevant to Ferraro's statements?

Thanks to all her help to "black people" because of her it's easy now to be the president in this country if you're a black man. By the way, can you give us some evidence of her help for black people?

sayonara banzaï !

Dear Hillary:

I am stepping down from your finance committee so I can speak for myself and attack the Obama campaign and its silly supporters on my own, unencumbered.

All that maddens and torments; all that stirs up the lees of things; all truth with malice in it; all that cracks the sinews and cakes the brain; all the subtle demonisms of life and thought; all evil, to crazy me, are visibly personified, and made practically assailable in Barack Obama.

I shall pile upon the candidates great dark hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by my whole race from Adam down; and then, as if my chest had been a mortar, I shall burst my hot heart's shell upon it.

To the last, I grapple with him; From Hell's heart, I stab at him; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at him.

Thank you for everything you have done and continue to do to make this a better world for my children and grandchildren.

You have my deep admiration and respect.

Gerry

Nice Melville reference, though I like Montalban's delivery in the Wrath of Khan!

The truth - yes...
That is why your racist candidate almost had Chris Matthew's head for saying Hillary wouldn't be where she was today if her husband hadn't cheated on her. THAT was the truth. Offensive yes, but the truth.
Obama by contrast has gotten where he has DESPITE his race just like Hillary has gotten where she has DESPITE the deck being stacked against her for being a woman.

I am a white woman btw and I think she is a racist hag.

Ergh, this was in response to rstephen and Gerry is the racist hag, Hillary is just an opportunist.

This is all part of a plan. Gerry just got a gig on Faux News and is a now a regular on BillO's radio show. The Hillary camp put her out as a surrogate on PURPOSE. Spread the black man vs white woman myth to all the low brow whites in Appalachia? (PA,KY,WV) and reap the rewards.

I used to love and respect Billary. What a shame...

Stay classy, Geraldine.

That's what I wanted to say but you nailed. I'm gonna steal some of your lines for tonights bar conversation. Thanks!

Uh, sorry. That was for hrebendorf's comment...

Being the first "viable" black or female candidate is nothing to be ashamed of and supporters on both sides of the fence are very enthused about the prospect. Are women who support Hillary and admit that one of the primary reasons is because she could be the first female president sexist?

What Obama and Clinton are trying to do is avoid making race and gender the primary issues. Yet, it seems that more of this stuff originates from her side-at least this is my impression.

I think the wording of her letter is sad. A smart letter would have said something like, "I cannot be of further use to you...etc" w/o naming Obama.

Hey, hon -- don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!

But damn, ain't she got nice hair?

And note to Matthew Weaver: believe it or not (and I have a feeling you'll have difficulty doing so), my support for Obama has absolutely nothing to do with his being black -- honest! Why is it that people like you cannot accept that a person (like me) can appreciate/like the message a candidate presents and want to vote for him? I suspect you support Clinton only because she's a woman -- so there! (And btw, what corruption he has with Rezko? It was a real estate transaction, ferchissake! Switch to a different flavor of Kool Aid).

There seems to be a weird sort of doublethink at work among the pro-Hillary faction, at least in this thread.

You remember how, in Orwell's original usage, doublethink refers to the ability to maintain two completely contradictory ideas in the mind at the same time? Well...

#1. Obama has only made this far BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.

#2. Obama doesn't have a chance to get elected BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.

And not only that. But Gerry has been trying to tell us BOTH OF THESE THINGS AT ONCE. And they're both true!! Despite the fact that they mean opposite things.

But we just won't listen!! So we deserve to lose, and that'll show us.

And by the way, we ought to be thanking her.

I remember watching "All In The Family" with my family back in the seventies. It was definately a different time.....my sisters and I loved the show, we laughed and cried through every episode. My father however just didn't get it and thought the whole thing was ridiculous, especially Archie. It was painfully obvious to us kids that good ole dad didn't find Archie funny or interesting because he was Archie.

Alas, it seems that Gerry Ferraro is in the same category as my father was.............but its not the seventies anymore.

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If you are correct...jeebus!

There is nothing accidental about Ferraro's comments, her rants on the media circuit and her cheap shots on her way out today Hillary continues to use the fear strategy.

Be afraid of that negro Obama:
he might be a Muslim
your sleeping children and aren't safe at night if he's in charge
he'll attack an older white lady
he's uppity a doesn't know his place

Ferraro's mission is accomplished. She got the message out there: Pennsylvania, do you trust this black man in the white house? It will dominate the news cycle for the rest of the week. Watch Hillary's numbers go up in Pennsylvania.

Hey, easy on "all the low brow whites in Appalachia". I think it's quite possible that, by not telling Ferrraro to shut up already, the Clinton campaign is underestimating working-class white voters in PA.

I'm optimistic that a lot of white working-class Democrats in PA think about their votes as much as anyone else. There's no reason to think racial chauvinism is more powerful with them than with any other demographic. And they may not be flattered at the impression of the Senator from New York and her Washington advisors that the best way to win the votes of supposed hicks from the sticks is to play on their (presumed) racial resentments. Oh, great, a bunch of New Yorkers looking down on them as a bunch of redneck Archie Bunkers. People in PA, WV etc. have always appreciated that. This is a high-risk strategy that -- I hope -- may backfire on the Clinton campaign.

No offense, but I was born in KY so I know the type. Drive around the 'hollers' and you'll see 'Appalachians' living in corrugated sheet metal trailers with Bush/Cheney 04 yardsigns still out!

I still think the pattern of Gerry with her hiring/gigs etc. was on purpsose and so was the target of her message.

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I am using "Truth", perhaps differently than you do.

When I think of "Truth", I think of the story of the blind men and the elephant. How each of the blind men had their individual experience of the elephant and it wasn't until the elephant changed positions that they understood that the others experienced something different. Each was "true", but it was necessary to take a wider view to take in all of the aspects of the "Truth".

The blind men had the ability to accept the experience of one another as a part of the "Truth". Rather than each arguing that their point of view was the only "Truth". It is an ability I think would be useful to have in these times.

As Pete Seeger once said, "The truth is like a rabbit in a briar patch. About the best you can do is point and say, "it's in there somewhere!"

This is a race between two very unique INDIVIDUALS: Hillery Clinton and Barack Obama.

It's very sad to me that Geraldine Ferraro is so blinded by her deeply ingrained, stereotype driven prejudice that she can't see that.

Please, Geraldine Ferraro, stay away from this campaign.

Can't wait to hear Keith O do his special comment today -- any bets on how the Clinton team will react to it? Will they insist that he be fired for media bias? Shot at sunrise? Stay tuned!

Who? Is that someone from MSNBC, the cable channel that had the debate that nobody watches? Is he the gray hared crazy one or the fat bleach blond that looks like Tweety Bird?

Yes, and he's going to be talking about the candidate that fewer people are voting for.

Wow! Complete denial. Poor Gerry. Victim of her own words.

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Geraldine Ferraro, Vice Presidential Candidate/Racist

way to go with the legacy there, Gerrie! best of luck with Fox

Here is an interesting perspective on Geraldine stoking racist sentiment.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_03/013314.php

Having read this, I'm even more certain that she's right. Spot on about the comments and especially about the reaction to them.

The link makes an interesting point, but I don't see how it leads to the conclusion that "she's right."

The post in the link doesn't question that it was a dumb thing to say, just her motivation for saying it.

She was on NBC news a half hour ago, to say that she wanted this to get out of the news.

She then attacked Obama's divisive racial tactics. The anchor subbing for Brian Williams had a hard time not expressing astonishment.

Geez. I support Obama, but on some level the fact that he is such a great candidate right on the issues is enhanced by the historic aspect of his candidacy (i.e., being black). That said, Hillary would NEVER have been voted to the U.S. Senate if she hadn't been married to Bill Clinton. If she was male, she'd have been run out as a carpetbagger. Geraldine's comments were poorly thought out, but her stubbornness is to admit a mistake reminds me of Hillary. There's a certain sense of arrogance and entitlement in these comments. It's time for Hillary to go. He's ahead in elected delegates, popular vote, overall delegates, and won almost double the States. Tearing things down don't build anything up.

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I am stepping down from your finance committee so I can speak for myself and you can continue to speak for yourself about what is at stake in this campaign.

Wait a minute. If she had to quit so that she could speak for herself, then who was she speaking for before? Hillary? Has she just admitted those racial remarks actually represents the Hillary camp's consensus?

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HRC wld not be where she is if not for the luck of Bill's blackness.

Bear with me if I twist the twisted logic.

If I understand your 'reasoning' it follows that

If Bill Clinton were not so black that he could overcome his whiteness to be called the first black president by a black woman and for the name to stick, he would not be where he is today.

And since at least some of Hillary's 35 years of experience comes from having married Bill the Black President --certainly the c-in-c red phone day one experience--Hillary wld not be where she is today if not for the advantages accrued by Bill's being a black male.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

I can't believe this moron was once a VP candidate for the democratic party.

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Kash79 - You can't imagine how dumb she is. Her hubby was up to his eyeballs in OC, filed fraudulent tax returns which she signed, and then gave what's now known as the "Italian Wife Defense" -- "How do I know what's in there? He says 'Sign!', I sign!'. BTW - I know Gerry will be throwing her heart and soul behind Obama should he somehow miraculously gain the nomination. She will, won't she? No? Oh...

From the desk of:

Geraldine Ferraro

I have decided to resign from the position that I have never held with the Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign.

I am deeply disappointed that Senator Obama has chosen to attack me in such a racist manner. However, should he become the nominee of our party, I am still willing to engage in fund raising for him, provided that he changes his ways, and promises to stop being a Black Man.

I can hear Hillary saying "Heck of a job, Gerrie! Thanks for helping me deliver Pennsylvania!". Ms Ferraro played the "race card" for whites who they think will be "affected" enough to want to vote for Hillary. While the Obama campaign is trying to run a campaign to try to bring the country together, the Clinton Campaign is using divisiveness to keep the country apart and fighting among one another. The two campaigns are as different as night and day.

This is a sad moment for democrats and for democrasy. Ferraro has long been one of the purest minded democrats our country has ever known and has spent her entire career battling racism, sexism, and other forms of bigotry. What she said, in effect, was what a lot of people already believe--it is the elephant in the room. This is partly why the press has coddled Obama, lest they ever be accused of being racially insensitive. The Obama campaign staff will not waste a second to spin the race card into any comment being made, meanwhile claiming they are trying their darndest to issues of race out of the campaign. The voters are starting to see that and are now dividing along the racial lines. It's probably too little, too late for Hillary, but unfortunately this buyer's remorse and cynicism will benefit McCain later on, with or without Hillary on the ticket as VP candidate.

I don't know if the link to Diane Sawyer's interview with Ferraro has been posted here.

In it she has a new spin. She says she was merely celebrating that fact that a black man is running for president, and Obama should be grateful. See for yourself.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Ferraro_Obama_spinning_me_as_racist_0312.html

What makes her a moron? That she is speaking her mind straight from her heart, calling it as she feels she sees it? That she is saying only what a great many people already think but are afraid of speaking aloud, lest they become labeled as racists. Or, how about her reactions to the Obama attacks? Do you not see that she as well as Hillary are being attacked for anything that comes out of her mouth? It is behavior like this, i.e. race-bating, that has only now begun dividing the candidates along racial lines.

Oh, excuse me! Why am I even responding to you. Anyone who writes what you just wrote must certainly be a moron.

I've heard quite a few of people saying that they agree with her, but I haven't heard one coherent explanation of how "Obama is only here because of his race." It wasn't a coherent point when she made it, and none of the people agreeing with her here are offering any kind of meaningful back up argument.

So Folkwolf, or whoever: Can you please explain to me how it is that "Obama is only still in this campaign because he is black?" How so? What do you mean?

I agree Rep. Ferraro isn't a moron; she knows exactly what she's doing and what it means.

And she's to be condemned in the strongest possible terms for all of it.

You're awesome. Did you really think there wouldn't be a progressive around here who'd heard of Focke-Wulf? Defending casual racism is one thing, but doing it behind a name cribbed from a Nazi Luftwaffe airplane builder is pure bloody genius. Wow.

Folkwolf101:

It's purely because of your white ass you've had a chance to drag your half brian to school and learn to type a few English words.

If I said that to you, I'd be a Moron. Get it???

So, lets not worry about her right to speak her mind- it's common and powerless people like you and me who are in danger of loosing our right to speak our minds.

New York- one of the most liberal states in the union- will elect the first black person as Governor and that is only because the white guy messed it up. How is it being black make it easy to be the President of this country? Many called Geraldine a racist. I don't think she's a racist, but she certainly is a moron.

You're calling me a moron because I called a politician a moron? Hmmmm.....interesting.

If you want, please go ahead and become the chair for Geraldine for President campaign - that's your right.

I can speak my mind and call a politician a Moron, and I know that's my right.

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Olbermann just crushed Clinton.

When he was tearing up Pres. Bush and his fould regime (with total justice) I would always, somewhat reflexively, say to myself 'Good stuff, but will he ever say these things about a Democrat?'; thinking he was one to cast principle aside over partisanship, etc, etc.

I guess he will . . . 'cause he did.

(paraphrase) 'You're now running as the Republican'.

Doesn't get any more succinct than that, does it.

Just a side comment here at 9PM:

Keith Olbermann is officially my hero.

Make of that what thou will.

Re: Olbermann

Somebody had to say something.

How long before Clinton demands Olbermann be suspended or fired?

My guess is they'll pretend it never happened and go on as planned. If he does it again, then they'll send the dogs out.

The worst part of it?

No one else in the MSM has (or will) articulate anything close to this.

I would agree, too. I wonder if any reporter will directly ask her for a response though.

A print reporter might (to which they'll receive a measured, totally unintelligible skein of campaign bopilerplate for a reply), but a television journalist won't. And I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for either.

Asking Sen. Clinton about Olbermann's comment is an acknowledgment of its strength; acknowledging its strength indicts the rest of the MSM for their moral cowardice. It simply can't be done.

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There are people for whom one must feel a sense of compassion when disaster strikes them. One such person today is David F. Girard-diCarlo, who is the Chief Executive Office in the law firm, Blank Rome LLC, where Geraldine Ferraro is a partner. Can you imagine the embarrassment he and the other partners feel today as they watch the reputation of their firm crumble as Geraldine Ferraro digs herself into a deeper and deeper hole. It's always sad to see a lobbying firm take such a public relations hit. Messages of sympathy can be sent to: girarddicarlo@blankrome.com.

The only way Rep. Ferraro could become untenable for a Lobbyist pit like Blank Rome is if she does something that might destabilize the system or threaten the sanctity of their bottom line. All she's doing is acting as an arm's-length representative for a campaign that has adopted a policy of racial division to advance their fortunes; no more (or less) than that.

A Clinton Presidency would be fully in the class interest of Blank Rome. They won't break a sweat over Ferraro.

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I have seen this meme stated repeatedly that Gerry Ferraro was just telling the truth, stating a fact. I do not get this. Can somebody explain the statement that he is the front front 'because' he is black? How does his ethnic heritage give anything to the equation. How does it trump his performance, his behavior, his communication skills, his organization skills, his policies, his personal charm? If black folks are 13% of the electorate, how does that provide him with an advantage? And how is claiming that her comments were absurd reverse racism? And how does objecting to unfair, false claims constitute an attack on Hillary. I just do not get it? Can one of you folks claiming Gerry is simply stating a fact explain this causal relationship between ethnic identity and winning the nomination?

Recall the LA Times endorsement, which was pretty blatant in stating that he was a pretty Black face that would put a new face on our foreign policy and so forth to correct current problems. Not his experience or ability to cause change. A good speaker with teleprompter. Further, there is a definite pattern of of folks, what I and others often call the Obama Cult, that push him because is is so different--namely Black. What other newness is there because as we find out more about him--which gets a quick racist and non-pc criticism--we find he is corrupt with Rezko, he lies about his past, lies or panders about his positions (e.g., NAFTA), he was spoonfed his supposed successes in Illinois, he has not done anything in the US Senate, even to the point of not even holding hearings for a committee he is chair, and so, so much more. Yet, so many folks don't want to hear about this. As Farrakhan said in endorsing him, he's like a savior.

So, what did Ferraro say? That if he was not Black, he would have been held up from more critical inspection. True. Part of this is simply because it is hard to question or critique without being called racist. Ferraro is also true on this, and she has 40-something years of history working on civil rights issues, the Obama campaign and his supports play the race card to beat back criticism. Just look at comments on TPM. Writers often use it as a means to discount criticism rather than engage in serious thought and discussion.

While I still write comments on TPM I am disgusted by the Obama supports invective against people, their shallowness, their claims of racism, and so forth. I am 48 years old, I am not racist and in both my personal and professional life have always rejected racism and sexism. I've fired people for both. I worked on Jackson's campaign. I remember the racist comments but never once did I or anyone I know respond racially. It is too bad the Obama campaign and supports are not as mature.

James R. Hoffa, Sr. was once asked if he was innocent of the charges the Kennedy Justice Dept. had brought against him. I'll paraphrase his response:

Saying you're innocent is like saying you're a lady. If you have to say you are, then you probably ain't.

Jump through that.

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If you'd stop being so mired in racial resentment you might notice that other attribute of Obama's that was frequently mentioned earlier in the campaign but has now been all but forgotten. He's a new YOUNG face. The Democratic Party is full of old fossils. I have considerable respect for all those old white guys who were lined up next to Obama and Hillary on the stage during the early debates but they are all OLD. They are senior citizens. The Clintons had no coattails. They did not energize new voters and new elected officials to come forth and win governorships and Senate seats. Only in 2006 did we begin to get a few new faces in national office. That's why Webb is often mentioned as a possible VP choice for Obama and he's not young either. If there had been a charismatic young white guy available, he'd have done as well as Obama in Iowa for sure and it was Hillary's loss in Iowa that set the stage for her hopefully imminent downfall.

It's about CHANGE or it was before we became mired in the sorry racial divisions of the past.

I call shenanigans. You cite a host of criticisms that have been lobbed at Obama - Rezko, the NAFTA Canada backchannel communications, his State Senate record, the Senate Subcommittee on Europe - and claim that those allegations are "get[] a quick racist and non-pc criticism."

That is a crock. Obama supporters have factual responses to each of those claims. They have been repeated here and elsewhere on the web ad nauseam. Neither the campaign nor the vast majority of his supporters have "cried racism" in response to those allegations. They have claimed that they are incorrect, underhanded, non-substantive, and typical of the GOP. Nor did people "cry race" in response to Krugman's articles or the "shame on you Barak Obama" fit.

Discussion of race arises when Senator Clinton and her supporters try to suggest that Obama's success is due to his race. Either because he is a regional candidate, or because people are afraid to criticize a black man.

Look I understand that Clinton supporters are angry that their attacks don't stick. But it is not because his supporters are cultists, or because their is some overhanging white guilt. We have simply examined out candidate an like him better. You like Clinton better. That's understandable. I disagree but its understandable. What is not acceptable is to try to diminish the a candidate because of his race.

Clinton supporters love to cite the results from places like Mississippi as evidence that he is a limited, polarizing candidate, but Obama has drawn votes from a broad coalition. He has won more votes from whites than blacks. He may have trouble drawing support in areas with high degrees of racial intolerance. That may even hurt him a bit in the general. I believe (and the polls bear out my belief) that he will make those votes up elsewhere, drawing in new voters, independents and even some open minded Republicans. But more importantly, I am not going to let my vote be dictated by racists who won't vote for a black man.

I'm sorry Clinton is losing. But she is not losing because of Obama's race. He is beating her in spite of it.

It's not your fault and it's not our fault. Somewhere beween 40-45 years of age there is a generational divide where we perceive matters of race based upon a completely different paradigm. It's a completely different mode of perception. Some that are older already held that perception and some that are younger don't have it, but the divide is just a sign of the times. I was worried about the venom back and forth but somehow, I think it'll be fine by the end.

I know one group that will have all seen Olobermann's Special Comment last night... Super-delegates.

I can agree that Obama has gotten a lot of attention because he's black, running for president and winning primaries and caucuses.

But you'd have to be deaf, or must have lived sheltered from bigotry, to not hear the dog whistle wail, to not notice the effort to inject negative racial stereotypes into the contest.

"That if he was not Black, he would have been held up from more critical inspection. True. " No, that's bullshit. If that were true, Jessie Jackson and Allen Keyes would've gotten much farther by now.

If you want to defend Clinton, do it honestly. And take an honest look at how she's ruining her chances here.

Well, for one thing Obama has inspired a record high voter turnout among black voters. And he inspires other races and ethnicities, and he himself is mixed. So in that way, if he were white I don't think the turnout would be so high. I didn't find Ferraro's comment that far fetched; she's right. I just wish she would have stopped already,with the TV appearances

But for Obama's camp to call "racist" is dopey and it is a turnoff, at least to me. I'm a Clinton supporter but have always like Obama, though not particularly his supporters.

Given the events of the past 48 hours, it is now time for John Edwards and Al Gore each to announce their endorsement, of Barak Obama.
This latest affair has so alienated progressives and true liberals, that if Clinton were able to somehow capture the nomination in Denver, Ralph Nader would likely get more votes than he did in 2000, to John McCain's great benefit. Until Ferraro's faux paus, I was looking forward to a pitched contest all the way to the convention. But not now. Now there is a big problem and only Gore and Edwards can stop the conflagration by holding a joint news conference.

As far as I know, Geraldine Ferraro is not a racist

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Whether or not Geraldine Ferraro is a racist isn't relevant. Her behavior either was wacky and out of control or calculatingly divisive. Even if not racist, she presented a pathetic approach to politics. I can only feel sorry for those who are in business with her. Can you imagine?

I think jakespeare was making a tounge-in-cheek allusion to Sen. Clinton's slimy 'as far as I know' tag on '60 minutes' when asked if Sen. Obama practices the Muslim faith.

I'm sorry, I like Olbermann, but tonight he came off as an angry jerk.