It wasn't just an error; it was practically the foundation for the column. Maybe he should just retract everything and start all over.

Posters still slamming Obama about this need to realize they are now in the same company as Bill Kristol, forced to lie in order to support their position.

Obama has been vetted. He not only survived, he's still more popular than Hillary. Ouch.

Oh Bill Kristol, are you EVER right?

Bill Kristol should be made to appear on every cable station and apologize to Barack Obama.

What Kristol has done is possibly damaged Obama's chances by even SAYING this LIE, and then REPEATING it with a correction.

This is a man's REPUTATION we're talking about -- not JUST a candidate for president.

So he corrected it. You think that's going to stop the wingnuts from citing it as gospel?

It's amazing to me that our wingnuts seem more frightened by the prospect of an Obama presidency in the 21st century than the whites in South Africa were of a Mandela presidency in the early 90s.

He should be fired by NYT and removed from Clinton's campaign!

Kristol is a hack, plain and simple. The NYT should fire him for using NewsMax as a source.

New York Times: lies, lies, and more lies.

Let's see -- Obama's being attacked for being a member of a Christian church? But I thought...

Posters still slamming Obama about this need to realize they are now in the same company as Bill Kristol, forced to lie in order to support their position.

They are in the same company as Kristol. And worse, they're completely out-classed by John McCain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQquSOnlxJ8

Part of McCain's response to Hannity: "I do know Senator Obama, and he does not share those views."

It's the sort of response that one might hope a fellow Democratic candidate would be able to bring herself to make.

newsmax?

kristol?

Puh-leeeze! Only far right wing blindered robots read their crap.

when has either of them ever been correct?!?!

Kristol's intent is to put anti-Obama information "out there," not to convey accurate information.

Whether the info is from Newsmax or Drudge or The Washington Times is irrelevant. Kristol is among the propagandists trying to throw enough crap into the air that some actually settles on Obama.

The shame is that the delivery system is the NYT.

RaeK illustrates the workings of a right wing zombie lie. No amount of evidence and debunking will convince him that this claim is false, so he will continue to repeat it.

Tne rethugs have just boxed themselves in corner. In one week they have lost both the Wright talking point and the Muslim email smear against Barack.

Where to go, guys.

Barack say if they swiftboat me, I will answer them with the truth. He just did and won. Hillary must be very sad.

"However, I have to think that this Wright thing will be more of a slow burn, an e-mail campaign a la the Muslim smear."

I'm chuckling at the thought of the next anonymous e-mail campaign. "We retract everything we said in our last smear e-mail because it completely contradicts our new round of smears."

"Posters still slamming Obama about this need to realize they are now in the same company as Bill Kristol, forced to lie in order to support their position."

I don't think the whole Wright brouhaha is going to be that big of a deal by the time November comes around, but your argument here is illogical and somewhat ad hominem. Whether the Wright mess is a big deal is a question that should be answered on its own merits not by saying that if you agree with such-and-such, you must be wrong. By the same specious logic, one could say that because you support Obama, you need to realize that you're in the same company as Farrakhan. This sort of argument is neither sound nor helpful.

And you've done similar research on the Republican turn-out for Obama early in the campaign? Yeah, I thought not.

The audacity to hope that Obama supporters would practice what Obama preaches.

oh well...

more like a tin foil hat and ear plugs ;)

This new Newsmax non-retraction is hilarious. Did this person actually read the article. Obama gave a speech in Miami at 1:30 pm that same day, July 22, and this hack-a-second journalism claims he "could" have attended the early service 7:30 am or late service 6 pm.

Forget the fact that this hackery claims he was there and offers not proof, and then insultingly asks Obama to prove he was not. And when Obama offers credible proof he was not, they say he "could" have attended early or late services. In what universe? Even if he had a private jet and a motorcade, it would be extremely unlikely to attend a full service, get to the airport, through security, off to a city across the country, disembark, grab luggage and transportation and get to speech in a matter of hours, much less the reverse, complete a speech and sprint to a plane, and go through the same rigamarole to catch a sermon hours after he was giving a speech across the country.

This is where journalism is these days. Call it "tabloid devolution" or the "Drudge effect" or whatever. News has become merely a business that generates demand for its product to fabricating insinuatation and scandal. Its revolting as it is asinine.

And when you have gullible people like this recent commentor calling it the truth, I am compelled to go back into teaching critical media literacy. I wouldn't say this passes even kindergarten competency.

The difference, of course, being that Republicans and Independents who register as Dems in the primary to vote for Obama do so with the intent of voting for him again in November.

Republicans voting for Clinton have no intention of doing so.

SAY A LIE 10,000 TIMES AND SAY THE TRUTH 100 TIMES - WHAT WILL PEOPLE BELIEVE?

The Republican lie factory is built on getting more impressions per lie than the retraction of the lie gets - and so the lie lives. It is built upon the model of beer advertising which is that those with the most airtime win.

So we see liars like Kristol get airtime and press time for their lies forever....

Go after the NYT... they are party to these crimes. One reader above has nailed it... unless that correction gets the same audience as the lie - the lie succeeds.

The Main Stream Media is complicit in the lying... there is news payola at play here... follow the money.

I love the juxtaposition of reading your line "a comically disreputable outlet", and then seeing a Newsmax.com advertisement directly below it!!

RaeK et al.,

This new Newsmax non-retraction is hilarious. Did this person actually read the article. Obama gave a speech in Miami at 1:30 pm that same day, July 22, and this hack-a-second journalism claims he "could" have attended the early service 7:30 am or late service 6 pm.

Forget the fact that this hackery claims he was there and offers no proof, and then insultingly asks Obama to prove he was not. And when Obama offers credible proof he was not, they say he "could" have attended early or late services. In what universe? Even if he had a private jet and a motorcade, it would be extremely unlikely to attend a full service, get to the airport, through security, off to a city across the country, disembark, grab luggage and transportation and get to speech in a matter of hours, much less the reverse, complete a speech and sprint to a plane, and go through the same rigamarole to catch a sermon hours after he was giving a speech across the country.

This is where journalism is these days. Call it "tabloid devolution" or the "Drudge effect" or whatever. News has become merely a business that generates demand for its product to fabricating insinuatation and scandal. Its revolting as it is asinine.

And when you have gullible people like this recent commentor calling it the truth, I am compelled to go back into teaching critical media literacy. I wouldn't say this passes even kindergarten competency.

I don't want to knee cap him, making him a unich is fine. I want him to still play basketball.

Do we have to wait until after the Democratic primary is over before you start removing racist remarks?

Or are you going to exercise some ethical control now on your website and kill this guy's account? Free speech principles does not mean your website must tolerate racial venom. Quite the contrary.

TPM: Get your priorities straight and exorcise this demon.

No one except Obamacrackheads here care which exact moment for wiggle room moment he heard it talking points.....he heard it, he knew it, he accept it and it ain't gonna fly. If you nuts think it will well God bless your dumb asses. The average person will not vote for him now. Maybe the fringe nuts here but the party IS in trouble.

Obama was making a speech in Florida that day, nimrod.

It's well-documented---you could look it up.

But you won't.

Wow! I am at a loss as to why we aren't focussed on the Bill Kristol and HRC ties... both have ridden on their daddie's coat-tails... both are Goldwater Girls... both have dedicated their lives to destroying Progressives... for the good the country, we can only hope that Obama kicks them both, HRC and Kristol, into the gutter from where they were born.....

The people that hold the New York Times accountable for this are absolutely correct, and in spades. This newspapers knows perfectly well that William Kristol is a smart-aleck, right-wing buffoon with no credibility. They don't care; they run his column so that disgraceful failures of American politics like Dick Cheney won't criticize them. It is craven, it is venal, it is with open and notorious disregard to the truth, and it is *official New York Times policy.* Don't let anybody tell you different. These are the heinous cowards that brought us "reporter" Judith Miller parroting convict "Scooter" Libby's inane disinformation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Miller_(journalist)

Kristol is an ignominious clown. His venue, the Times, which knows that to be true, pretends to be the newspaper of record. The disgrace is on them, in its entirety. Don't let the swine off the hook.

Yes, liberal historian has it right. Marginal Player has certainly demonstrated it's marginal in a number of significant ways, but the time has come to marginalize MP's combination of racism and ignorance. I realize stupidity and ignorance alone aren't enough, but come on TPM.

"unashamedly Black" and "unapologetically Christian".....Oh the horror. Think of the children.

The NYT's taking on Kristol, in the first place, demonstrates the paper's lowering of its standards in order to appease the right-wing, alternative-universe nutball writers of the Weekly Standard... And I have to wonder why the NYT allowed Kristol on their op-ed pages... he no qualifications except that his daddy is Irving Kristol who, at least, was an original thinker... anyway, Kristol's column is a sign of things to come as the neocons become increasingly marginalized....