Hillary-Obama?
Isnt the winner on top of the ticket and isn't the winner the one who picks the VP.
Iam really starting to get pissed at this, they are trying to belittle Obama.

What's the strategy here? To make undecided supporters feel good about voting for Hillary because that way they get both? To make it seem like she doesn't hate Obama even though she attacks him 5 times a day? To make a case for herself to be VP? I don't fully get it.

Perhaps Bill is conceding that Hillary is not going to be the nominee at the top. And is paving the way for Hillary as VP.

However, given the nastiness of the Clinton campaign up to this point, I think it's more likely that this is a bit of fakery to reassure Democratic voters that Hillary will put Obama on the ticket, so they can vote for her. Just don't see it happening, though.

I would love to hear Obama state unequivocally that he would not accept Clinton as his running mate, using as his justification that to do so would be to accept "politics as usual"; we need to turn the page in a definitive and decisive way, he could say

in other words, REJECT her, and do it NOW!

however, I realize that such might be impolitic ...

Uh, no thanks. Why would she extend the VP slot to someone she thinks wouldn't be a good commander-in-chief?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/03/obama-you-wont.html

Obama already put a nail in this idea.

The Clintons are throwing this idea out there so people think that they can get both if they vote for Hillary.

The truth is that they can't. After implying he's a under-qualified, Hope-monger why would he want to run with Hillary McMonster???

It's a dead story. It ain't happening.

And Obama/Clinton won't happen unless the party (Super Delegates) absolutely demands it.

Obama: "You Won't See Me as a VP Candidate"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/03/obama-you-wont.html

Good for him. Don't take the bait.

He's smart to do this and here's why:

1) Obama's vision for America does not include the ugly, divisive tactics of HRC's.

2) He is not going to play the "sidekick" figure that HRC and her old white crowd think that minorities should play. You know, like that asian boy in Raiders of the Lost Ark, or the black partner to the white cop. Sorry, he will not be the "bone" that HRC throws to the African American community in a spirit of tokenism.

3) After Al Gore's experience, no sane person would want to play VP #2 to Bill Clinton. Playing VP #2 to Hillary was bad enough.

4) I thnk he truly doesn't want to be VP. He is something of an idealist. The VP is a job, like governor, for people who want to hold high offices, instead of people who want to change the country.

5) Hillary can not win mathematically. She can't catch up. She;s hoping to try to steal the nomination in the back room. Problem is, if the first AA candidate in US history is robbed, the AA community (not to mention the millions of young people) will sit out November. She is guaranteed a loss if she steals it. By refusing to allow her to steal the nomination and put him as VP to quell the outrage, he is calling her bluff.

There he goes again! Bill putting Obama in the back of this election bus! What audacity they have to think Obama would consider being a VP to Hillary. No room for a VP if the Clinton are elected. Three's a crowd especially when two of the three have the massive Clinton egos. Let Obama choose someone fresh and new to the process. Bye bye Clintons. We've vetted you and found you wanting, over and over again.

Sinbad thinks that the Clintons are setting up a scenario where if Obama doesn't pick Hillary to be VP, she won't campaign for him.

Sinbad knows from his experience solving the refugee crisis in Kosovo with Hillary that she can be one tough lady when the situation requires it.

Sinbad is still waiting for a front page post on TPM. Sinbad needs some LOVE!!

There are two reasonable explanations:
1) They know the numbers and the superdelegates aren't going to break Senator Clinton's way and they are building pressure for a unity ticket to assure Senator Clinton becomes veep.
2) They're trying to depress Senator Obama's support with a wink and a nudge about putting him on the ticket.

And one unreasonable explanation:
3)They think they will win and they want Obama as veep.

Best to ignore the whole stunt. They will be plenty of time to pick a veep after the nomination is secured.

Maybe the press falls for it because they are 99% white.

Obama should offer her the ambassadorship to someplace nice, like New Zealand or some other country that's quiet and far away.

Oops! There goes Hillary's Richardson endorsement. Bill played the veep card too early.

Sinbad ... that is hilarious, or maybe hillarious.

The VP slot has been already filled. That spot goes to someone who can put a key large state in play. One person fits that description. Illinois and New York are safe Democratic States, so there is no need to have either Hillary or Obama in the VP slot.

I predict: The person who will get the VP slot, with either Hillary or Obama is..........

Ted Strickland, Popular Democratic Governor of Ohio.

Think about it. Ohio is a bellwether State. He can deliver it for either Obama or Clinton. It is the only choice that makes any real sense for either candidate.

New Zealand is waaaay to nice for Ms Clinton after the last 2 weeks. I would go more for Siberia or Greenland (where her & McCain were doing shots of vodka, she'll feel right at home).

BTW- add another state and at least 2 more delegates to Obama's lead. There are only 4 more counties left to report in WY and they don't have enough voters left to overcome Obama's 19 pt lead. I am just hoping they are enough to push him over the 20pt mark.

This is a Clinton line of attack and, as much as I hate to admit it, a pretty damn good one. It accomplishes a slate of simultaneous strategic objectives:

1. She gets to appear like she's taking the high road, providing excellent cover for herself as she slams Obama on other fronts.

2. She makes herself appear even if not ahead of Obama in the primary race.

3. She subtly backs up her experience argument by implying that Obama needs seasoning as Veep to be CIC.

The whole idea is a complete crock, of course. Obama sharing the ticket with Hillary-- no matter who was at the top-- would largely negate his appeal to his constituents. I mean, how can you embrace a dynasty and change anything?

I could swallow my dislike for Hillary and vote for an Obama/Clinton ticket. But Clinton/Obama? Norfolk and way.

Besides, why in God's name would Obama give up when he's got a significant (if not insurmountable) lead in delegates, more money, and more of the popular vote?

I hope he comes out and emphatically says no again.

There is no way in the world that Obama would or should consider the VP slot. Period. There is *nothing* in it for him except loss (of a promising Senate career, of the support of so many peple, most likely of his self-respect).

Maybe she can steal the nomination. I doubt it. Her 'McCain or me but not Obama' moment did away with Superdelegate support, I suspect. But if she did, without Obama, she would never win the Presidency. She will be "shredded" by McCain and (moreso) by the Republican machine. We've seen her fall apart when she gets hit, and she hasn't even *begun* to receive the hits that will really hurt. Obama, to his credit, doesn't believe in wrecking a fellow Dem.

THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY THAT CLINTON CAN BE ON THE TICKET AND HAVE THAT TICKET WIN IN NOV.

It's not a certainty, but it's a possibility. IF she contacted Obama **today** (or as soon as possible but definitely before Pennsylvania) and offered to 1) stop the attacks, 2) accept the VP spot and work hard beside him, and 3) promise not to pull her nasty technigues during the general campaign .... then it *might* be worth his thinking about that. He doesn't need or I'm sure want her as VP - far from it!! -- but to end the intraparty bloodletting and get that 'dream ticket' lock on all segments of the enlarged-by-Obama Dem party, it would be worth thinking about I guess. Perhaps.

But every single day the value of what she has to offer in exchange for that VP spot becomes less. Abd after PA, no matter what the result of that primary, it is virtually worthless - he is only going to get stronger and gain momentum from that point on.

So, if Bill and Ed Rendell and everyone else think that a 'dream ticket' is such a good idea, they ought to be having some serious heart to heart talks with her -- right NOW!

They're trying to push a new "inevitability" meme. As others have said--voters not paying attention will think it's a great idea. Obama needs to keep saying no and then change the subject. I am so sick of this crap.

On another note, great to see you Sinbad, and keep on posting! Share with us some of your lifetime of experience in the crucible of foreign policy, wontcha?

Why would Clinton choose a running mate for Vice President who she feels does not cross the Commander-In-Chief threshold?

That seems dangerously irresponsible.

Except for the Clinton portion.

McCain/Clinton '08

John McCain says that he will maintain George W. Bush's Domestic and Foreign Policies. Hillary Rodham Clinton has endorsed John McCain over Senator Obama.

Hillary Is The New Lieberman!

so, Clintons think Obama is not good enough for the west wing but just enough to work for Clintons. if Obama becomes Clintons VP -forgive me for saying this- he'll never become the president, or do you think?

think people.....this public olive branch, while continuing to smear and hate him....typical clintons...no thanks...obama has already won...do the math. the only way she can win is to steal the election and if the elders allow that to happen then we need a new party that is not dominated by sell outs who support fear and hate....

ABC= anybody but clinton in 2008

It's so condescending.

In some ways I actually support the idea although I am clearly in a minority among the blogoshpere. I'm trying to look at the big picture here which is that this thing cuts both ways. They are tacitly acknowleging that this has the potential to tear the party apart. Well it can work the same the other way. Obama wins and a fair portion of the Hillary supporters stay home. I have never liked the woman and like her less and less every day. But Bill is right about one thing - they would be unstoppable. They'd bring tons of dems with them down ticket.

So in a way I agree with the notion. But it's incredibly presumptious and condescending to assume she gets the top of the ticket. Vote for me and I'll give you the little black man too?? What I wish could be agreed upon is that the winner of the pledged delegates takes the runner up as VP. Then we'd stop this powder keg from blowing and handing the election to McSame and other repubs down ticket.

She trashes him for weeks, labels him unqualified to be president, a plagiarizer, slams him on nafta, says mccain would be a better president than him - but now wants him to be her running mate. She really is a monster. Give Power another Pulitzer.

In favor of an open convention, here. Finish up the primary season and go into the convention with the candidate undecided, if that's the case. Let the superdelegates exercise their independent political judgement, and let the chips fall where they may.

MSM should push this -- they stand to make a pile here if the Democratic convention is open.

Guess its time to fess up: the H in DHS stands for Hussein.

The VP statement that Senator Obama should respond with:

I have not yet focused on who I will select to be my Vice President.

Dream ticket:

Clinton/Flowers

>>>Imagine . . . The only person in the country who wants him dead and is mean enough to try being surrounded Secret Service folk located in an office he knows not to walk by.

Memorable comment on this from a pundit (can't recall who): "'Dream ticket' is not possible. Clinton wouldn't want want two vice presidents, and Obama won't want two vice presidents."

Hillary is just doing what she always has done: trying to get ahead by hooking her fate to that of a talented man.

Greg wrote:

Via the Page. Note the extent to which he volunteered her thinking on this. This report suggests that he offered this in an answer to a question. But Hillary floated this yesterday, and, now, Bill today -- and it's hard to imagine that both Clintons would be talking this up in tandem by accident.

Are you suggesting that the Clinton campaign planted the questioner to ask that very question to Bill, Greg? That would be huge news.

Bill was, in fact, responding to a question. So, unless the questioner was planted, it would seem to be spontaneous and only proof that they know how to answer the same question when asked. Big deal.

African Americans will never vote for a ticket with Obama as Hillary VP. We will campaign for McCain before we do that. Hillary is already looking at stealing the election. Hillary and Bill must think we are stupid.

Ah! How refreshing to see the Clintons in their cheery, white condescending mode towards a promsing young black fellow. What a relief for Missy Hillary and Master Bill. Who knows? If he works hard and doesn't get too uppity perhaps young Barack might be ready in about eight years,

Does anybody believe this idea would be being floated if Hillary was ahead or had locked up the nomination as she had expected? I wouldn't give her a crumb.

"Given the clear preference of most Democrats for the dual ticket solution, Obama's rejecting the entire idea out of hand is going to strike people as quite arrogant."

He rejected the idea of him being VP.

Newsflash: He is winning.

Americans like a winner.

"I see this as working very much in Hillary's favor -- she looks gracious and accommodating, and Obama looks like he's saying, "You're likable enough, Hillary."""

Whatever. That was so long ago, before her meltdown into a Rove figure. No more Mr. Nice guy.

Besides, it's a trap to push him into the likable little minority sidekick. Her aunt Jemima or Uncle Ben -- "Yes Ma'am!" HRC is a racist at heart if you ask me. She wouldn't treat Edwards like this.

He should float the idea of choosing her as his VP.

Turn the tables.

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https://www.pavoterservices.state.pa.us/Pages/VoterRegistrationApplication.aspx

Send to anyone you know there -- especially in Philadelphia and college towns.

She'd never run with Obama anyway. She wants a snooze with DLC credentials who won't upstage her. Evan Bayh will be ideal.

THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR LORD TRIMBLE of LISNAGARVEY!!!

I will never, never vote for a HRC-Obama ticket... an Obama-HRC tickt I would support... I will never, never support HRC as president... we don't need 4 years of GWB lite...

Bill, whatever is Southern for "chutzpah," you got it. One more reason to keep the Clintons out of the White House. And, by the way, Senator Clinton lost Texas and would have lost it even more had you not gotten the Limbaugh voters. At this point, you will troll for KKK crossovers in Mississippi.

what's Bill been smoking?

Why would Obama want to be on that ticket after the schizophrenic way that the Clinton's have treated him?

Did Bill miss that Hillary lately has been running for VP with McCain?

Bill, I believe he's ahead in the delegate count. Nothing like saying "get to the back of the bus" to the frontrunner.

That is unstoppable based on what exactly? It isn't the polls, because Hillary can't beat McCain, and the anti-Hillary united Republican Party factor will bring the GOP to the polls in droves, while the Independents will be pushed over the McCain. So I think that is a lot of wishful thinking Bill. Truth is though, she is poison on the ticket, she is an electoral Typhoid Mary.

http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/post/26284440

Oh, please. I'm glad Obama has said NO. Although the Clinton supporting blogs still thinks he might be persuaded to take it, as a back-of-the-bus, dusky skinned sidekick (no they did not say the last part, that's my inference...). All I can say is he should not be railroaded into the VP slot. He can continue as Senator and if he's done being a Senator, he can always go back to Illinois and run for Governor. He'd make a great Governor. Of course, he'd make a better President.

I hope Sen. Obama will consider Gov. Sebelius of Kansas or Gov. Strickland (sp?) of Ohio or Gov. Kaine of Va. I don't think he should run with another Senator.

Of late I've been wondering about some of the rhetoric emerging out of the Clinton campaign. I keep asking myself and all my friends and family -–are they (the Clinton campaign) really that crazy and nasty or are they really that stupid? The answer usually swings back and forth between those poles.

Also, when Obama wins Wyoming, will Sen. Clinton congratulate her opponent? I won’t hold my breath. Notice how he was gracious when she won Ohio and RI and the popular vote in TX? She has a really hard time being a gracious loser. I don't want such a sore loser in the WH. We've already had one sore head in the WH these past 7 years.

I don't know about Clinton/Obama but I would love to see the unstoppable ticket of Huckabee/McCain. Do you think McCain would go for that?

Bill Clinton is offering the Vice Presidential slot to Senator Obama.

So much for all that bluster about Hillary as a Big Strong Independent Woman who would be totally in charge. Bill is the one who is selecting and openly offering the Vice President slot to Senator Obama. I guess Bill and Hillary do not feel that Big Strong Hillary is capable of handling such a "Ready From Day One" executive decision. Step aside Hillary and let Big Foot Bill handle it for you.

Tell us again about what a fine feminist example Hillary is.

Bill is still calling the shots.

Oh stop it.

See that wasn't hard.

Hilliary wants Obama as VP. Hilliary questions Obama's ability to be Commander-in-Chief. So Hilliary is willing to pick a VP whom she thinks is not qualified to be Commander-in-Chief. What kind of Commander-in-Chief skills does this demonstrate?

Let me see (speaking for Obama):

I have the most delegates, the most states won and the popular vote and you want me to be your VP?

That sounds very logical doesn't it.

I love the Democratic Party, and I'm pretty pleased that it looks like Obama will be our nominee. I voted for him, and I gave him money. I didn't do either for Clinton. Those are my bona fides.

That said, reading over threads like this (and lately all the threads, on all the Dem-friendly political blogs, are like this), I'm starting to really hate each individual Democrat.

Neither Obama nor Clinton is worthy of the kind of sub-Freeper rage and shit-flinging each has been attracting from the others' partisans. There's incivility, and then there's the internet norm, and then there's this. The Dixiecrats were worth having an intra-party civil war over. The two inches of daylight between Clinton and Obama on most issues going forward? Not so much.

You are dumb...very...very...dumb. I really can't respond to your stupidity in any other way. Well, maybe I can speak like you..."you don't know shit about nothin'"...ASS!

Wow, this is so, so offensive. No surprise that they're trying to use his good qualities (like, uh, the fact that he's fucking winning) for their own good while highlighting what they believe because they're so entitled -- that it's Her Turn. This is majorly racially insensitive, too. Tell the black man who is winning to step aside for whitey. Jesus.

What a sham.

What a joke floating the idea that Hillary would be 'willing' to put Obama on the ticket...

ONLY so that people will will feel OK about abandoning Obama.

It's a despicable lie meant to cause wafflers & fence-sitters to abandon Obama by convincing them that it wouldn't really be an abandonment since, ya know, he'd be on "the ticket".

She has no intention of doing that of course, and will never ask him if she's the nominee.

She would NEVER allow that kind of charisma to be anywhere near her.

Separately, Newsweek's poll today finds that 69% of Dems support the idea.

What idea? This is misleading. You make it sound like 69% of Dems support the Clintons' idea -- and that idea obviously has Obama in the VP slot -- and Obama is rejecting that idea that "69% of Dems support."

Actually, the Newsweek article says this:

>>leaving aside the crucial question of who runs on top.

Ask Hillary or her supporters right now if she wants to be Obama's VP. I'm guessing they would reject the "idea that 69% of Dems support," as well.

People, we first have to remember who it is that is talking: the Clintons ...therefore be wary. The talk of Clinton/Obama ticket is nothing more than a ruse to plant a seed in people's minds that Clinton is the ultimate standard bearer.

Therefore Obama is correct to put aside all such talk. He is the frontrunner, with most delegates, most popular vote, most states won, polling best against McCain, and smarter to boot.

On the one hand she says Obama is not fit to be commander in chief, and on the other she says she wants him to be one heartbeat away for the Oval Office. She can't have it both ways. I mean she can't even have it the first way, with herself as Commander in Chief.

This kind of talk from the Clintons deserves riducule from the Obama team. Obama has the dignity not to play this stupid game...he has never offered her the second spot. To do that to a running opponent is nothing more than a transparent attempt to trash them in front of the whole nation.

Hillary and Bill have no class.

Spin, spin, spin.

Dang, those Clintons are good.

She can't stand up and say she KNOWS Obama isn't Muslim? She posits that a Republican-John "Crossed the Commander in Chief Threshold"-would be a better choice in the White House than Obama? And now, she/he thinks they'd be unstoppable together?

Don't buy it.

Oh, re: Obama's response -- there is nothing ungracious or unclassy about simply saying a VP choice is premature...and I'm running for President.

As the Democratic primary drags onward, I hear weekly calls for a "Dream Ticket" of Obama and Clinton. Let me explain what a nightmare this dream ticket would be.

It's not just critical that the Dems win the White House: they must win AND govern effectively, especially if they hold their House and Senate majorities. To make significant change, the Dems will have to reach out to and receive a positive response from reasonable elements of the Republican party. Hillary has the highest negatives of any American politician. Any Republican seen as cooperating with Hillary as VP will be branded with a scarlet H. Her inclusion on the ticket immediately builds roadblocks to legislative accomplishment, fairly or unfairly to Hillary.

Obama has longer coattails. He'll bring out a bigger Democratic vote and may increase the Dem majority. Hillary is McCain's preferred tailor--she'll lengthen his coattails for reasons discussed above.

No one discusses the 800-pound gorBilla when discussing the Dream Ticket. Why would Obama want a popular ex-president, one he can't discipline, standing in the shadows for constant comparisons to Obama's performance? What is Obama's mechanism to stop Bill from volunteering those comparisons for reporters? Bill isn't gonna accept the shadows when the spotlight is just a few feet away. Heck, Hillary isn't gonna accept the shadows, either.

A VP candidate is often selected to bring a crucial state into the fold. The Dems will carry New York state with or without Hillary on the ticket. Kansas' Kathleen Sebelius would be a better choice, a Dem governor of a red state who has appointed several Republicans to her administration and has earned a reputation for working with both sides of the aisle, a perfect fit for the Obama team.

As the pundits noted following the last Ohio debate, Obama seemed "to grow" from the first debate to the last. As Hillary has gone negative, Obama's crew has stumbled a bit. Over the course of the remaining primaries, Hillary's attacks will hone Obama's squad for the Republican hit machine. Once Barack gets the nomination, or at the point where enough superdelegates commit to Barack to guarantee him the Dem nom, Hillary must graciously bow out, acknowledge that she helped the Dem party by making Obama better, and defer her dreams to a later day.

http://icreport.loc.gov/icreport/

Anyone remember this document? I know, it may not pass the decency test for TPM. But why on earth would Obama want this material to appear in his oppo research should he deign to join the Clintons? Of course he should not do that, either at the top of the ticket or the bottom. There are plenty of decent, well-qualified people out there of any gender or ethnicity to run with him.

This is all too silly. Obama would never choose a candidate with Clinton's baggage in the general. That's before you consider the daily bile that her campaign presents and the fact that she has no national security credentials - despite their rhetoric.

The question of Clinton's putative VP choice is moot. Clinton cannot be the nominee because it is decided by delegate count and she has already lost on that matter. While she cannot win, she's ungracefully refusing to accept that she is going to lose. Just watch her inflict as much damage as possible while still losing the delegate count.

So she's already thinking about 2012 by promoting the Republican over her Democratic opponent. The Clinton's really are toxic to the future of the Democratic Party. In fact when you really think about it, Bill's indiscretions were pretty toxic to Al Gore in 2000.

Why can't these power-hungry megalomaniacs just go away and let us got on with repairing our body politic?

I blogged about this at: http://swimmingfreestyle.typepad.com
An excerpt:
If cynicism, political calculation, and manipulation were Olympic events, we'd be talking gold medals for the Clintons.

How the hell can Bill and Hillary Clinton relentlessly hammer Barack Obama as nothing more than a shell, an empty vessel that lacks the substance and experience to be the president and, in the next breath and with a straight face, suggest that Obama would make a great vice presidential choice if she's the Democratic party nominee for president?

They really do think we're stupid.

... because everybody knows how well Hillary Clinton has done in "traditional rural areas" like Wyoming, Colorado, Idaho, and basically most every Red state in America, right?!

Bill should be honest. Hillary Clinton's main constituencies are old people voting for the past, women voting their ovaries, and various other demographics who value government gimmes and traditional partisan party politics more than a unified, commonsense government that challenges not just itself, but also its citizens, to do better, aim higher, and to actually *WORK* to get things accomplished.

A vote for Hillary is a vote for government secrecy, lack of public accountability, and voter apathy. A vote for Obama carries with it an obligation to actually stay involved, stay motivated, and stay focused on addressing problems.

Hillary vs. Obama is the difference between being viewed as a subject being served by a hopefully benevolent, corporate lobbyist friendly entity versus being a free citizen with an actual role to play in the proper functioning of your government.

TO THE SUPERDELEGATES, AND TO THE NON-DLC WING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY:

I want to make it as clear as I possibly can that I will not vote in November for any ticket that includes Hillary Clinton. That's it. Even if it includes Barack Obama.

This may seem unreasonable, since I will not vote for an Obama-Clinton ticket any more than I would for a Clinton-Obama ticket. Two reasons:

1) Any scenario that would make it possible for the Clintons to get back into the White House is unacceptable to me and, in any sane world, should be to the adult, non-DLC wing of the Democratic Party.

and 2) It is increasingly clear that the Clintons will be drag on the ticket in either position, not least because it seems they will be prominently featured in a trial that will be a GOP wet dream. Deja vu, anyone? A trial that could take place in ... wait for it ... October.

A trial that, whether or not it is actually in process in October, is certain to generate headlines and ads and GOP talking points that will sink the Democratic ticket if the Clintons are anywhere near it.

Here's a preview, and you can make up your own October headlines:

... Bill Clinton, according to the complaint, promised to promote Paul's (Peter Paul, "Hollywood mogul") Internet entertainment company, Stan Lee Media, in exchange for stock, cash options and massive contributions to his wife's 2000 Senate campaign. Paul contends he was directed by the Clintons and Democratic Party leaders to produce, pay for and then join them in lying about footing the bill for a Hollywood gala and fundraiser.

Paul contends his case will expose "the institutional culture of corruption embraced by the Clinton leadership of the Democratic Party," which seeks to attain "unaccountable power for the Clintons at the expense of the rule of law and respect for the constitutional processes of government."

The complaint asserts Clinton has filed four false reports to the FEC of Paul's donations in an attempt to distance herself from him after a Washington Post story days after the August 2000 fundraiser reported his past felony convictions. Clinton then returned a check for $2,000, insisting it was the only money she had taken from Paul. But one month later, she demanded another $100,000, to be hidden in a state committee using untraceable securities.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56868

Haven't we had enough? Seriously?

Okay. Here I go with my mantra again.
McCain vs Clinton will be a repeat of Bush vs Kerry in 2004. In a best case scenario Clinton wins the states Kerry won in 2004 and McCain wins the states that Bush won in 2004 and that lands McCain in the White House. I believe that McCain vs Obama would be a different story. Obama, too, would win all of the states Kerry won in 2004 but I think he'd also pick up Virginia, Kansas, and a few other red states. That's all it will take to tip the balance and secure the presidency. Part of my argument is also based on the belief that Clinton's negatives are too high to win outside the states that Kerry won in 2004 (she could even lose some).
This is why I DON'T THINK CLINTON SHOULD BE OBAMA'S VP CHOICE if Obama gets the nod because she'll carry those negatives with her and sink the campaign for the Democrats. Also,Senator Clinton recently said "I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002."
Won't these words be used against Senator Obama if he gets the Democratic nomination? Won't McCain be able to say "Senator Clinton herself said that I have the experience necessary for the job and that Obama has is speeches?" Could Senator Clinton go forth in the Democratic campaign having to say that's not what she meant? Does her statement handicap her on the campaign trail in the general election of Obama is the nominee? Another reason that she's a poor choice for VP.
But the main reason is that she can't win as president and that she sinks the ticket as VP.

Keith Hood

Yeah, no kidding. And fairly pathetic. They know they can't win, so they're shooting for either diluting his support with this nonsense or weaseling their way onto his ticket. The Clintons have no shame.

My opinion is that Barack was correct to indicate that he is not interested in being HRCs VP.

First thing Monday morning, the Obama campaign should release a statement that he is not interested in running with her because he wants to see America move forward. This goal would be impossible to obtain with HRC in the White House, in any capacity. In soft terms, remind the people that the Clinton White House was riddled with scandals and crippled politically.

Asa life-long Democrat, I'm very concerned with the way Hillary Clinton is destroying America.

I'm voting for McCain.

/snark

is there no end to the Clinton hubris?

The candidate running second in delegates, second popular votes and second in states won is offering the candidate who is in first place in those three categories the possibility to be second on "her" ticket

Hillary Clinton needs Barack Obama on her ticet to win the election and she knows that - and in lieu of that she needs him to look like a sore loser if he doesn't accept the position if offered to him

LUCKILY: NONE of this will occur because Hillary Clinton will not win the nomination of the Dem party fairly and if she steals it through super delegates there will be no more viable democratic party anyway

The question is: how does the woman who aspires to be the head of her party say that the republican candidate is the better choice for president than her democratic opponent if she is not the candidate

So lets be clear; Sen Obama is not good enough to be President but he is good enough to be a heartbeat away from the President as long as Sen Clinton gets what she wants

and damned be the rest of us
The woman is shameless

rae-

your post implies that you and your spouse are of the low income and low iq part of the base? perhaps add hate and fearmongering to the coalition...no thanks!

ABC=anybody but clinton in 2008

so why would hillary select as her VP someone she does not feel has passed the Commander in Chief threshold?

oh, yeah. she'll say anything to get elected.

The word "pimping" once again comes to mind.

Why didn't Hillary say this herself? Was Bill operating on his own? If so: talk about a loose cannon! Who'd want Hillary in the WH with Bill freelancing.

If not, how can Hillary justify viciously attacking Obama on one hand while jockeying to be his VP and sending out Clinton to be proxy.

Face it Hillary and Bill, you lost. Quit trying to divide the party out of personal ambition.

Now why would Hillary want Obama as VP when he does not have the ability to be Commander-in-Chief?

How stupid is this offer?!

Rae and other Clinton supporters,

Please read:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/9/184226/0219/795/473137

Rae, the race is NOT winner take all. The race is about delegates. Rules were set in place by the party, and all participants signed off on them. She will be behind in delegates, popular vote, and in states won. Its over.

I will love to hear more about the Ohio/Texas primaries. Who made the first call to the Canadians? When the Canadians called back seeking repeatedly to talk to Boolsbee, what did they want to talk about? Who really wrote the leaked memo? Who prompted it and who wanted written that way?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75PptVEXwSg
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/03/06/memo-leak.html
Challenge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ULhR5RQGUY&feature=related

Apology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2MmhnGRcA4
The investigation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2MmhnGRcA4

Buck Fill.

Interesting! Vote for HIllary... because you really want Bill and Obama in the White House! That's the argument? Wow! Many points for sheer cajones! (Is it okay to say that to a woman?)