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Texas, A Perplexing And Complex State, Is Anybody's Ball Game

Hillary's campaign has over a dozen press secretaries -- in Texas alone. Obama's campaign has 16 field offices in the state. And Texas has an astonishing number of media markets: Twenty in all.

The surprisingly large numbers attest to a political fact that could prove decisive in this election: Texas is a huge and immensely complex state that has both campaigns equally reluctant to predict the outcome next Tuesday.

So what's the state of play in Texas right now? Here's a quick snapshot.

Both sides agree, roughly, on the following: South Texas, with its huge population of Latino voters -- some areas number up to 80 percent Latino -- is a clear Hillary stronghold. A recent poll showed that Hillary leads Obama among Latinos in the state, 66%-27%.

The Obama camp concedes that Hillary has a real advantage among Texas Latinos, due to the ties the Clintons have nurtured with that community over the years. But Obama aides point to an aggressive push for Latinos in the state -- they are running Spanish-language ads around the state and successfully pushed for the Feb. 21st debate to be shown on Univision. Finally, they note that one recent poll shaved her advantage among Texas Latinos considerably after he made a visit to the state.

Meanwhile, Obama has strongholds in cities like Dallas, Austin and Houston, with their large African American populations. Austin is also Obama country because of its liberal population and its University of Texas campus housing some 50,000 students.

In an effort to limit the damage among the younger voters who are flocking to Obama, the Clinton camp dispatched Bill Clinton today to campaign on the UT Austin campus.

Meanwhile, places like Dallas and Fort Worth, with their sprawl and their concentrations of more conservative white Democrats, present a fluid picture. Obama has been closing in the polls in Texas -- the last four public polls show them tied or show each winning, always within a margin of five points -- and his gains appear to be partly fueled by his success among white men, including inroads among the working class voters that are part of Hillary's base.

Both sides say that male Texas Dems are a conservative-leaning breed who appear to be drawn to Obama's trans-partisan emphasis. "In Texas culture, they like their political candidates to be independent, not easily pigeonholed," says an Obama adviser.

Today Hillary released a bread-and-butter populism ad in Texas that stresses her battles on behalf of workers, a spot designed to appeal to her working class supporters (and perhaps to hang on to working class white males who might drift towards Obama).

One-third of the Texas vote is caucuses, which have historically favored Obama, and the Hillary camp says that its success will depend largely on turnout, particularly among women. Hillary's Texas campaign has made a huge push for early voting and has worked hard to energize female voters with a new video campaign called "One in a Million." And Bill Clinton openly says that if Hillary doesn't win Texas she won't win the nomination -- potentially juicing up female turnout by suggesting that a historic opportunity could slip away if they let it.

Ultimately, given the state's complex demographics and tortured primary/caucuses process, neither side dares predict the outcome next week. "With 254 counties, 31 senate districts and 2 time zones," quips Obama Texas spokesperson Joshua Earnest, "anyone who tells you they can predict the outcome of a Democratic primary in Texas is not shooting straight."


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On NPR this week, they were talking about how HRC seriously hurt herself with the Driver's License issue while Obama gained tremendous support on the same issue.

Note that Obama never really had to accuse HRC of flip-flopping. He let the issue, which was hurting HRC, speak for itself and not get side-tracked on a gotcha-style debate point. His campaign continues to show a shrewdness unseen in US Politics for a while.

Have a listen, the salient points start at about 2:55
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=19338276&ft=1&f=17

An additional area to look for on election day:

The blue-collar white Democrat in mostly in extinct in Texas, with one exception: Refinery Row. The coastal area extending from south Houston, through Baytown and Freeport, and extending to Beaumont and Port Arthur, is still fairly Democratic. Watch these areas to see where this segment goes.

The Texas SOS office has historically been pretty good at getting election returns out. They also do have returns broken down by county. So you can be your own armchair analyst and not have to listen to the network "gurus" spout out their inane pearls of fake wisdom.

The state of the play in TX is that Obama is going to take the state going away.

The Clintons have no ground game. This according to the Houston Chronicle while the obamans have huge ground operations esp in Dallas, Austin and Houston - this from family and friends in TX.

Obama is overwhelming the airwaves and on the street the movement towards him is palpable

"In an effort to limit the damage among the younger voters who are flocking to Obama, the Clinton camp dispatched Bill Clinton today to campaign on the UT Austin campus."

And that, my friends, is why Hillary Clinton is losing this election.

Not to mention the fact that Obama doesn't even have to win Texas, the Clintons are screwed unless they can pull of 20 point landslides in both Texas and Ohio.

I hope he wins though, because they need a strong kick in the head to make them let go. I think he'll do it in both states.

this is EXCELLENT NEWS!!! FOR HILLARY!!!!

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Glad to see you, idiotic. As I've said elsewhere, I'm hoping that yours is the first comment on the eventual TPM headline, "Hillary Bows Out of Democratic Race."

Greg, http://blog.texansforobama.com/ claims 20 field offices for Obama? Maybe that's an office in each of the media markets?

I agree with JohnMcCSF above that the ground game is extremely important and I also think Obama has cash reserves that will be well spent on the Texas airwaves. With the size of Texas and with great empty spaces all over the place, I wouldn't expect big field offices--but I would wager that there are active Obama volunteers all over the state.

It's anecdotal information, but heck that's what we've had to use throughout the campaign.

One very important factor has been left out of the evaluation. Delegates are apportioned to districts based on their voter turnouts in 2004. The South Texas heavy Latino Districts had a very low voter turnout in 2004, so they have been apportioned a number of delegates based on that figure, rather than how large their voter turnout will be this time. That means that Hillery could carry those districts by a wide margin and not gain very many delegates from the results.

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Great - so Clinton could win the popular vote and Obama could sweep the delegates. That'll clear things up!

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OT but why is Josh going off on Obama about Kaddafi? Surely Josh knows that at least half a dozen members of Congress including nutcase Curt Weldon visited Kaddafi a couple of years ago.


Pretty sure that was sarcastic...

Snarky Internets humor.

It is a very strange guilt by indirect association that Josh has slapped together. He does not provide one shred of proof that Obama has any connection what so ever to Kaddafi or Libya. Does Josh even know that America has normalized relations with Libya. It looks like TPM has decided to extend the: fear Obama because he just might be a crypto muslim, campaign.

Does liam even know that there exists such a thing as "sarcasm", and that Josh knows how to use it to make the media (and, ironically, yourself in this instance) look silly?

Go back and read the clarification that Josh had to post.

I knew Jonathan Swift. Jonathan Swift was a friend of mine. Josh is no Jonathan Swift, and neither are you sir!

either no sense of humor, or a double dose. I'll bet on the latter.

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Josh should have mentioned that Obama wants to rid the world of Nukes, and that Libya just gave up their Nuclear program and is working with the U.S. on peaceful nuclear energy projects, and Obama is from the U.S!

Clearly a pretty strong connection.

C'mon, what happened to "Tell him to meet me in Texas, we're ready!"?

http://thepersonalispolitical.tumblr.com/post/27343455

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As a resident of Texas and based on anecdotal evidence and the general energy here, I would say that Obama is winning by a bunch. Everyone is talking about the election in a way I've never seen. I've talked to people who have always voted Republican but are voting Obama (white native Texans) and not because they hate the Clintons as I has suspected, but they really like Obama. I've spoken to people who have never voted in a primary but are this tiime--for Obama. And of course, the obvious huge turnout int he black communities and among young people. It's going to be Obama. I write this as a middle-age white woman who was an Edwards supporter. He's going to win by 10 points at least. And then there is the wacky causcus thing which totally favors him as liam notes above.

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Where do you live? I mean, a lot of Hillary's support comes from the Hispanic community, who (if they speak only Spanish) won't be much impressed with his speeches. It could be the reverse in the western, largely Hispanic districts.

It will be interesting to see what happens.

One of Obama's strengths is that he inspires people to become involved and to be ambassadors for his message.

I think there is a generational gap in the Latino support--which also is not nearly as homogenous as the pundits imply--much like there is among women, with people of the younger generation convincing their parents to vote Obama. And his message is getting out, even though he doesn't speak Spanish. Besides the numerous Spanish language ads, there are supported created things like
this or this

There is an Obama office just down the street from my home here in Midtown Houston. Its staff is racially diverse and of all ages and very motivated.

Unfortunately, when I visited on Sunday, they'd run out of yard signs and stickers, which I regret but view as good news. They were particular well-prepared with information on how to maneuver in the complex primary/caucus system here in Texas, and the lady who attended to me encouraged me to explain my personal reasons for supporting Obama to those I would be persuading to also participate in the primary.

I might add that I was outside tying my dog's leash to a post outside when I was spotted from the inside and someone came outside to attend to me.

Ad Absurdum

My brother lives in the Infamous TX22...former Congressthing Tom DeLay..In fact, until he moved to Missouri City several years ago, he'd lived in Sugar Land since 1980


There's an Obama Office open on the Southwest Fwy near US 90

San Francisco For Obama has or will have teams on the ground in Houston (Main Wd3 hq), Austin, El Paso, Dallas, San Antonio and Corpus Christi..those just the one's I have heard of...all told 150 volunteers


The NoCali Field Directors have been in Austin since February 6th and SF volunteers have been sending used buttons and signs to the state

The key fact in evaluating the state of play in Texas cannot be emphasised enough

Thanks to the Republicans THERE IS NO DEMOCRATIC MACHINE IN TEXAS


That one fact puts EVERY one of Mark Penn's microtargets in play. Unlike NJ, MASS, CA, NV, NH, OH...the Clintons have no machine in place which they've been able to coopt. So in addition to being poised for huge victories in the delegate rich Senate districts in Austin, Dallas and Houston, the entire state really is subject to the full brunt of a mass TV and rolling wave of Obamamania.

That's why I think Obama will win TX going away no matter how short Bill's leash, how tight his muzzle

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The lack of "machine" in Texas is why I've been glad the contest is continuing -- I"m hoping that after both candidates do their best to get people organized and excited, then whoever wins will be able to keep them organized and excited through the general election.

Maybe it's just a pipe dream.

The democratic machine in Texas is indeed sadly atrophied. I yearn for the day when non-Republican judges actually appear on Texas ballots. Just about every judge in this state is a Republican who ran unopposed. Imagine the judicial consequences.

I sincerely hope this year ends the Democratic party's pattern of writing Texas off as too red. The Houston Chronicle reports unprecedented Democratic early voter turn-out in the traditionally Republican suburbs. Regardless of the primary results, this may represent the beginning of the end of one-party politics in this state.

Hey, Ad,

I'm old enough to remember when Bill Clinton organized McGovern's campaign in Texas...

As a Tx-Ex, I remember when all the judges ran unopposed on the Democratic ticket. I was a liberal activist when the conservatives ran the state party, in the 70s/80s. We had maybe a third of the delegates at StateCon, less sometimes. The powerhungry (and more conservative) ones who hadn't peeled off because of racism after LBJ and '64-'65 jumped ship in the 80s when Reagan made it fashionable to convert to Republicanism publicly. After Ann Richards the party proved unable to elect a governor, and when Bob Bullock finally went to heaven, the party's influence went with him.

Somewhere in there--I wasn't paying attention--all the judges flipped. So they're really the same people, they're just being appointed to fill unexpired terms by guvs with R not D after their name in the paper, the idea still bein' that they'll coast when the seat comes up next for election. It's really the same system, Jacksonian-democracy judicial elections turned into life tenure.

This is very true, and I commented on this same fact elsewhere.

Thanks GOP for helping the Dems from being controlled by dynasties!

I think I now remember how I came about that article in the Chronicle.

Obama's ground advantage pulls Texas out for him.

Mark it eight, dude.

You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.

Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s**t about the rules?

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Excellent analysis. As a life-long Texas Democrat, I think you have things just about right. With one exception. Austin does not have a large African-American population. In fact it has one of the smallest percentage of African-Americans of any of the 20 biggest cities in America. That's a shame, but educated African Americans often find they have to relocate to Dallas or Houston or even Atlanta to have a supportive and vibrant African-American community. We do have a large percentage of liberals however. As the only county to in Texas to vote for John Kerry in 2004, I think Senator Obama can expect to win easily here and with very large numbers. Since convention delegation sizes are determined by past Democratic voting and not on population, Austin and Travis county have a larger delegate total that do Houston or Dallas. Texas, ain't it grand?

One other thing.


March 4 is Texas Independence Day. It's the perfect day for Texans to declare their Independence from the Bush-Clinton dynasty!

Actually, Independence Day is March 2nd...

But March 4th was when they used to inaugurate new presidents, so that's gotta be worth something.

another factor-

the open primary -- I have heard that many many republicans are going to vote in Democratic primary

They hate hate hate Hillary - Hate her so much they dont' want to risk voting her into general election to be defeated by McCain -- they relish the idea of killing her campaign in texas

they are coming out in force for obama and most polls don't show this (they are only polling Democrats in these polls)

They're coming out all right. ROFL.

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Thanks for the analysis, Greg.

All I have to say at this point is this: I really really miss Molly Ivins right about now.

Hear, hear.

I'm sad she's not with us to witness this, although I suspect she did see it coming.

Email from Htown

I can spot a few Houstonians in Obama's New TV ad running today in Texas... http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/tx_voices_ad-elp Is this cool or What!

Obama takes TX going away

Molly Ivins
RIP

AUSTIN, Texas --- I'd like to make it clear to the people who run the Democratic Party that I will not support Hillary Clinton for president. Enough. Enough triangulation, calculation and equivocation. Enough clever straddling, enough not offending anyone This is not a Dick Morris election. Sen. Clinton is apparently incapable of taking a clear stand on the war in Iraq, and that alone is enough to disqualify her. Her failure to speak out on Terri Schiavo, not to mention that gross pandering on flag-burning, are just contemptible little dodges.

I miss her too
http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/1/2006/1304


I do, too. A woman who can criticize a woman politician as a politician but not as a woman. There was nothing petty about Molly Ivins.

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"Oh, ho, ho, irony! Oh, no, no, we don't get that here. See, uh, peole ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority." -- Roxanne

Substitute "sarcasm" for "irony," and "torture" for "ski," and "ignoring the Constitution" for "smoking dope," and you can perhaps see why it wasn't immediately clear.

This site will give you the BEST reports of what will be going on in texas.
Al Giordano has been spot on , on his predictions and analysis....Stay tuned to this site, Al just landed and will be reporting starting tonight about what is going on on the ground

http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/

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Hey Greg, I right here in the middle of things in Austin- the numbers here in Travis County are going to be crushing- everything is in Obama's favor here. In my precinct alone there are 17 precinct captains- all organizing, pushing people to vote early, and informing folks on the caucus process (hell, we usually don't get a say, so most people don't bother). The kids are going crazy for Obama, and lots of republicans are as well. A republican insider told me that so far, early voting numbers show about 37% of early voters who are identified registered republicans are voting in the dem primary- and they think almost ALL of those votes are going Obama.

Of course those people aren't polled as likely voters, so things could be grim for Sen. Clinton on the 4th. And anecdotally, I don't know a single person who has voted for Hillary.

About Bill, people will turn out to see him, but I don't see him changing any minds, especially among students.

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I live, and teach, in CT. Bill Clinton came to my campus a couple of years ago. The students in attendance at the speech went nuts. j

Obama held a rally in Hartford the night before Super Tuesday. I know several students who skipped classes (no big sacrifice, of course-- :) ), drove to Hartford, about an hour away, to see him, and were bowled over. I got the sense that the students here, who are predominantly Democrats, appreciate, respect, and know Bill. And Hillary Clinton, by extension. But they're smitten with Obama. Seriously.

Trying to ignite a discussion about politics used to be hard sledding. Not these days.

Just my anecdotal thoughts on Bill, and the probability of Bill changing votes.

Trying to ignite a discussion about politics used to be hard sledding. Not these days.

A friend of mine is a school teacher. In order to expose his students to politics, he's been having them watch the debates and some of the candidate's speeches (Hillary, Obama, and McCain). He tells me that during Hillary and McCain's speeches, the kids are somewhat attentive but get bored easily and eventually start talking to each other, but have gotten excited each time they watched an Obama speech, and were riveted by them.

Again, simply one person's experience, but certainly encouraging.

This is good analysis. I am also a life-long Texas Democrat. An anecdotal example in Dallas is I work in an office of 26 predominately white and hispanic professionals. All of them are voting for Obama. Even the republicans are voting for Obama. I would say half of this number are going to caucas as well. Many of the older Texas Democrats who remember the days of dominance have taken interest again. The reaction in Texas even from some Democrats to the Clintons is so viceral. We are all looking for the down ballot effect of having Obama at the top of the ticket.

Actually March 2nd is Texas Independence Day.

Special for this year, it's been pushed back 2 days.

Fair enough. It is just nice for the State of Johnson, Rayburn, Jordan, et.al. is somewhat relevant again in Democrat politics.

All amazing, fascinating, mind-boggling, I'm running out of words for it. But if what the Texans here are saying is true, if it comes about, it means something way, way bigger than Obamania or Barackapalooza, or anything else about one individual. It is a harbinger some something much more important, something for which November 2006 was only the vanguard.

What it means is, a huge swath of the American population, not Clinton's plurality, but a significant majority will have had enough with the "Reagan Revolutiona," corporatism, and religious fanatics in American Government (not to mention "triangulation," the time for which has come and gone). It means a return to the America and its place in the world as shaped by FDR, Truman, JFK, and LBJ with Republicans as the minority, business-driven party doing just enough to keep the Dems from going completely nuts.

In other words, it will be America as I knew and like it. Who knows; we may even start to wise up to Ike's warnings about the military-industrial complex.

Thank you so much Churchill for correcting that date.

For anyone who really wants to follow this thing, two websites are a must:

1) the Burnt Orange Report -
http://www.burntorangereport.com/frontPage.do

Absolutely the best take on the precinct/primary hybrid we have here in Texas. And it's keeping track of the phenomenal early voting we're seeing here.

2) Paul Burka/Texas monthly -
http://www.texasmonthly.com/blogs/burkablog/index.php

The "Dean of Texas Political Reporting" who has the most influential audience of any blog in the state. And who just became a believer in Obamamania based on those early voting numbers. Comment reading is a must - you're hearing the uncensored voices of state sneators, lobbyists and staff.

I live in far West Texas, which is neither a Hillary stronghold or seemingly a place of great opportunity for Obama. The most conservative part of Texas. The two-party system here is Republicans and Libertarians. Nevertheless, my wife and I and our friends are all attending the precinct convention for Obama and I have a feeling we won't be alone.

The fight looks like its really between whatever Hillary can do south of San Antonio vs what Obama can do in the cities. But the suburbs around Dallas and Houston have seen 1000% and 1200% increases in Dem primary votes. I think these will take Obama over the line and make it a convincing win. For whatever that's worth.....

Just got off the phone with Mom in San Antonio... According to my step-dad, 100,000 have participated in early voting there. Still, turnout is expected to be HUGE on Tuesday. Mom heard that they're scrambling to find new, larger precinct locations out of concern that present designated sites will not be able to handle the expected numbers.

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Here in the neighborhood of Rollingwood in Austin (a small township surrounded by Austin proper, with probably the largest concentration of Republicans in the city), we always have what I call "lawn sign wars." In 2004, one neighbor put up a Bush/Cheney sign. His neighbor immediately put up a Kerry/Edwards sign. Another Bush/Cheney sign went up. Another Kerry/Edwards sign. It was hilarious.

And here in Rollingwood, the only lawn signs I've seen at all are for Obama. Nothing for McCain or Romney or Huckabee or Clinton; only Obama. In one of the most Republican places in Austin. That is enthusiasm, folks.

N.B.: As another poster pointed out, you really need to study Texas demographics a little bit more, Mr. Sargent. Not only does Austin not have very many African-Americans, it's actually below the national average. It's not Iowa or New Hampshire, but it's not exactly a monolithic voting block.

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Oh, one other thing, Greg: our primary/caucus system isn't "tortured." This is Texas. The Democratic party leaders were probably arguing: "What do y'all think? Primary? Or caucus?" "Hell, let's have both!"

Politics in Texas: like everything else here, it's like a whole 'nother country.

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THIS is the Clinton overview i actually meant to cite (though the former gives a sense as well): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/clintons-texas-ground-ga_b_87723.html

Obama's campaign has at least 3 offices in Austin - downtown, in East Austin (historically black area) and at the corner of the UT campus. He is campaigning hard in Texas, with rallies and town halls in Austin, DFW and tonight at Texas State.

In terms of demographics it is important to understand that the Hispanic population in Texas is much more similar to Arizona and New Mexico and quite different than California. A large percentage of Hispanic voters can trace their roots in Texas back many generations, even to the time when Texas was part of Mexico. Obama tends to do better with non-immigrant Hispanics.

I think Obama wins Texas by 10 points. The leading Democrats in the Texas Legislature have endorsed Obama because they think he will help rebuild the Democratic Party in Texas. Based on early voting they are right.

"Six Degrees of Barack Obama"
I am sure Josh is referring to something clever as it has more recommendations than any other post in the history of TPM. But it went over my head. What does it mean?

Well, it's like the Kevin Bacon game. Name any Hollywood actor and you can get back to Kevin Bacon in six leaps. (Based on the old adage that there's six degrees of separation between everyone on earth.)

So, essentially Russert was playing it with Obama with his pastor and Farrakhan, except in this game at the end you get Kevin Bacon as BFFs with Quaddafi.

hmmm.... I will venture a guess... Her Royal Clinton is outta luck one more time.

Will any of the Republicans voting for Barack now end up voting for him in the general? Or is their prObama turnout mainly a result of Hillary hate or McCain love?

I hope so.

I'm encouraged by a CNN poll of Texans that showed 60% don't support the war, and 61% think the economy is the biggest issue.

IMO, both of those issue favor Obama. Take that with the fact that McCain is not going to be as strong with Republicans as Obama is with Democrats, and we may just have a slight chance to turn Texas blue.

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The media just might be HELPING Hillary on Tuesday by having her DOWN AND OUT ALREADY like they did before New Hampshire.

They need to admit that she COULD pull this off.

So Bill's campaigning at the University of Texas. Oh, THAT'S going to help. The students there were six-years-old or less when he was first elected, and if they have any fond memories of him at all, it's that he taught them what a blow job was just at the time in their lives when it might start to prove useful.

"Six degrees of separation": the theory that any two individuals are connected by a chain of no more than six relationships. E.g. - I have a friend who knows a guy who was a high school friend of Scott McClellen who obviously knows George W. Bush. (Not enough degrees of separation there!)

The joke is referring to the Farrakhan flap. Unless, that is, it's something else that is going over *my* head.

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Yesterday, in Houston near River Oaks, I waited thirty minutes for early voting and it was an off hour. That's a long line. Most everyone seemed to be there for Obama.

I am registered with the campaign as a supporter and am a MoveOn member, so I am probably on more Obama lists than Hillary lists, but my partner is an Emily's list supporter, so she should be in line for the Hillary stuff. I can tell you that my phone is the one that's ringing all the time and my email inbox is stuffed with Obama meet-ups and campaign events.

As to white male support, I can say that most of my friends/colleagues who began the Bush administration as loyal supporters first grew quiet and then spoke up about their disgust with that administration, the war and, quietly, the Republican party.

I can't imagine that they will really become Democrats, there is something deeply tribal at work preventing it. But I know that any enthusiasm they might have had for politics has evaporated.

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The joke is that there are only up to six degrees of separation from Obama to any bigot, terrorist, demagogue, or otherwise hateful character anywhere in the world. Using Russert Logic (TM), Obama has an obligation to denounce them all. Using Clinton Logic, he needs to reject them as well.

The truth is, the Clinton campaign DOES have a ground game in Texas. The most recent SurveyUSA poll also shows that Clinton leads 51-46% amongst those who have already voted.

Additionally, Rush Limbaugh has a campaign underway to convince repugs to cross-over and vote for Hillary, in order to keep the Democratic civil war going.

All told, things should be interesting. I think it will come down to african-american vs. latino turnout.

Check burntorangereport.com for tales from the ground in Texas. Might be the Rush is providing most of the momentum for her.

I live in Austin and can attest to a few things.

First, I have many conservative friends who moved here for jobs. They moved here from Oklahoma, Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.

Every single one of these guys are voting for Obama. I asked them why and here's what they said:

"Well, we can't stand Hillary and we would never EVER want to see her have a chance at the Presidency. Secondly, we really don't like McCain because we don't trust him and think he's crazy. And finally, we think Obama is acting more like a Libertarian. He wants to end the war (just like Ron Paul), he wants to balance the budget (just like Ron Paul), and he's a damn inspiring speaker (just like Ronald Reagan).

So, I ask them if they will vote for him in the general election, and about say definitely yes, and the other half says "maybe."

Anecdotal of course, but very indicative of everything I've been reading on the intertubes.

I think Texas is going for Obama by at least 10 points, because the repbulicans and independents are swinging for Obama big time.

Add in the fact of proportional delegates (ie: south Texas doesn't get as many because they haven't voted for Democrats as much as Austin, Houston, or Dallas have in the last election) and that takes the wind out of Hillary's strength among latinos in the south. Of course, these democratic rules have been in place for years, so the Clinton's camp cries of "foul" have no bearing on reality.

The caucus which accounts for 1/3rd of all the delegates is going to go huge for Obama.

Hillary's toast.

'Nuff said.

"The media just might be HELPING Hillary on Tuesday by having her DOWN AND OUT ALREADY like they did before New Hampshire."

Coonsey, I totally agree with you! I noticed in one news story today (I'll have to find it) that the Obama campaign's internal polls are showing Clinton leading in both Texas and Ohio. How is that possible given the soaring analysis and anecdotal reporting going on here? Is the Obama campaign low-balling? Would they low-ball that much? Normally a campaign likes to say they're ahead (they don't want to discourage the troops), and then project a modest lead in anticipation of something bigger. If you ask me, the Obama team has already lost the expectations game - which is not to say that game won't be irrelevant come election eve. Has anyone else heard this news about internal polling? And what about the expectations game?

P.S. Let me immediately contradict myself. Maybe all this enthusiasm is all part of pushing through the victory - a kind of ongoing internet campaign rally. What's wrong with us old duffers (speaking for myself) who tend to sit on their enthusiasm rather than stand up and cheer? Bitter memories of crushing disappointment in the past? Anyway, "Huzzah!"

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Ultimately, given the state's complex demographics and tortured primary/caucuses process, neither side dares predict the outcome next week.

The popular vote is a toss up, but I feel pretty comfortable predicting that Obama will win the delegate count.

"The truth is, the Clinton campaign DOES have a ground game in Texas. The most recent SurveyUSA poll also shows that Clinton leads 51-46% amongst those who have already voted."

Independent Ben, I've been freting about this 51-46% result online here ever since it came out, and I've gotten mostly silence or anecdotes. I long for it to be definitively explained into oblivion. The MoE won't do it. One kind person (Dan Carmalt I believe) posted an interesting analysis on how Obama would be able to overtake Clinton's upfront lead in the first quarter of the voting. Unfortunately, when I returned later to consider Dan's post more closely, the threat had been broken and I couldn't find it. (Where's the archive on this site, anyway?)

Anyway, that SurveyUSA result, plus the Obama internals -- they bug me!

The one of a million commercial would be quite good but people who complain a bout plagiarism should not steal concepts like "one of a million" from their opponents. Also the ad ends with let's do this for Hillary. So the campaign is all about saving Hillary?

If you ask me:

1) Hillary has to be forced out of the race on March 5 to avoid another five weeks of chamber pot politics.

2) Popular wins for Hillary in Texas and Ohio will not get her out of the race.

3) A delegate win for Obama in Texas will be spun as an electoral aberration, the main point being: "Obama can't win big-state elections!"

4) The media will only too gladly amplify Hillary's spin.

5) There will be immediate calls for more debates leading up to PA.

6) And the whole (by now) nauseating process will recommence.

Thus: Obama must win the popular vote in Texas! I used to say in Ohio as well, but Texas will do.

27 February 2008:

* 419,905 early votes cast in Texas.

* 4 years ago: 72,688

* Houston early voters are up 10-fold

* Dallas County 55,000 early voters

* half are first time voters

* less than 3000 have previous republican history

* Harris County, 3rd largest county in the United States is on pace to break the 2004 tallied votes and that is just the early voters

Obama's event at the Dallas Reunion Arena last week drew over 20,000 - 30,000 people. Some camped-out overnight, others arrived before dawn and the event wasn't even scheduled to begin until 11:30 AM.

Tonight Obama has an event in Tarrant County (Ft. Worth).

Texans are fired-up and ready to go.

BTW: I read yesterday that the number of delegates won will not be known until June.

"... we won't know on primary night who's getting what delegates. Someone may be able to claim victory in the primary vote, but it'll be impossible to truly determine the delegate winner until this Summer when we hold our state convention on June 6-7. I hope that this post will help everyone understand the process, especially those who are planning on participating for the first time this year."

Our quirky democratic Texas voting system is a 3 tier process!!

Read here for details:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/8/95310/13683/422/45112

It is complicated and ridiculous!

I've never caucused before, I will do so on 4 March.

We vote, then we caucus. Read about the process ...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/8/95310/13683/422/45112

Forget about instant gratification. ;)

PS

Houston and Dallas are strongholds for Obama.

Latino votes in South Texas have much smaller delegate counts.

Obama does well with the younger Latino voters.

White and Latino families are split:

Parents for Hillary

Children for Obama including grown children.

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