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Source: Gore Won't Endorse In Dem Primary

The other day, in an oddly overlooked post, CNN's Political Ticker reported that two sources close to Al Gore had said he'd ruled out endorsing during this Dem primary season.

I've just spoken to a source close to Gore myself, and this person confirmed that the report is correct: Gore will not endose.

Gore spokesperson Kalee Krider declined to comment to Election Central.

CNN reported this as the reason for Gore's decision:

With Sen. John Kerry and Bill Clinton both aligned to a candidate, Gore has a role to serve as the neutral elder statesman in the party.

If an agreement needs to be struck between Clinton and Obama down the road, Gore is in position to be the likely facilitator of that discussion.

My source says the report is correct. Basically, Gore appears to be preserving for himself the option of stepping in and declaring a winner in the event of a war over superdelegates, and thus being seen as a kind of mediating figure, rather than as someone trying to influence the outcome.


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I think this needs some clarification. Gore is a Distinguished Party Leader, and thus a superdelegate. Unless he plans to abstain at the DNC, he'll be casting a vote for one or the other of the candidates - and that's an endorsement, in my book.

I read this as: Gore intends to withhold his endorsement until he can act as a kingmaker, confirming the presumptive nominee and ending the fight well before the convention.

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You may be right on that one, if the presumptive nominee is obama. Gore won't say a word if its the clintons. He can't stand them.

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well, not sure that there's a real difference here. If he steps in and says he's voting for Obama because he's won the pledged delegate count and hence is the choice of the American people, that isn't quite the same as an endorsement.

I'll admit that I'm squabbling over semantics. But the view you've just put forward is that of the Obama camp. I suspect Hillary's folks, who have been saying that they don't intend to cede this race even if they're trailing in the pledged delegate count, would regard a Gore announcement that he's going to respect the will of the people and vote for Obama as an endorsement - and as a fairly devastating one, at that.
Which, of course, is the entire point of Gore continuing to withhold his endorsement; he wants to wait, apparently, until his endorsement can, in a single stroke, end the divisive fight within the party. Instead of delivering it to a single candidate as a tool to persuade voters, he wants to use it as a bludgeon to force the withdrawal of the candidate who has effectively lost, but won't admit it. At least, that's how I read this.

You're making a some poor assumptions. If he's refusing to endorse in order to maintain neutrality, why in the world would he violate that neutrality by voting for one or the other?

He wouldn't.

Gore doesn't have abstain, but neither does he have to endorse. And the vote? The vote is a long way away, it's not until the last week of August.

Since Gore sees himself as a neutral arbitrator, he would certainly seem willing to sacrifice his vote for the good of the party. In fact, I believe this is exactly what he would do if the situation called for it.

He could also join the effort that is asking Super Delegates to pledge their vote to the candidate with the most popularly elected delegates at the end of the primary season. But I expect that at this point many Clinton supporters would see that as a less-than-neutral option.

Personally, I no longer believe this will go all the way to the convention. I believe Gore's role, if anything, would be to convince the Clintons that "it's over" when Obama reaches an unassailable lead in the popularly elected delegate count. Probably around March 4th.

I think you're spot on. I think if it becomes evident that one candidate or the other will be unable to achieve a majority of pledged delegates without some form of party trickery such as seating FL and MI or leaning on super delegates, he'll step in for the sake of the party.

I didn't miss this, but I agree that it seemed to slip under most radars.

I love Gore, but my superstitous side feared his kiss of death after his endorsement of Howard Dean, who was riding on the top at the time. In fact, I fear my own kiss of death for my candidate, since I've never supported a winner before.

AdAbsurdum, then please vote for McCain.

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I supported a winner once—exactly once (at least when it comes to presidents and the general election). I voted for:

(1) Ford against Carter in '76 (elementary school election)
(2) Carter against Reagan in '80 (elementary school election)
(3) Mondale against Reagan in '84 (high school election)
(4) Dukakis against Bush in '88 (first real election)
(5) Clinton against Bush in '92 (woo hoo!)
(6) Dole against Clinton in '96
(7) Gore against Bush in '00
(8) Kerry against Bush in '04

So, I'm 1 for 8! (1 for 5, if you only include real elections.)

All of this Gore hero worship makes me want to puke.

In 2000, he won the presidency but did not have the gonads to fight for it against the Bush thugs. We should never have had 1 stolen Bush presidency, let alone the 2nd in 2004. If Gore was not gutless, we would never have had Bush to destroy our Constitution & laws.

'Elder statesman''kingmaker' NO - it is just more Gore gutlessness...

I agree that Gore should have fought harder, even though it was probably a lost cause.

I also find it funny that everyone worships Gore now, but when he needed everyone 8 years ago they didn't give a shit about him.

That said, I really like Gore, after reading The Assault on Reason, I definitely gained a newfound respect for him. I wouldn't mind seeing him Vice President one more time ;)

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It's not that strange. Now that gore is "free" to say what he wants, he gets more respect. He's had a HUGE impact on the global warming debate. In terms of public perception it's just no contest. He also spoke strongly against the Iraq war, and against Shrub. I think he's earned that respect. I can see why he wouldn't want to put himself through the 'wringer' again.

My recollection is that Gore fought hard, although not dirty enough, until the Supreme Court butted in. I also recall his own VP candidate sabotaging his cause.

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Joe?? Are you talking about my very own Joe Lieberman? Sabotaging a Democratic prospect??

Like denouncing Clinton's behavior and giving new life to the nutcase Republican impeachment effort??

That Joe?

Who just got bounced from superdelegate status? (Best news I've heard in awhile...)

This is very unclear reporting. There is a big difference between stepping in and declaring a winner and mediating a dispute. Which is it?

Good for VP Gore. I agree that an elder statesman mediator might well be needed, so it is all for the best that he hopes to serve in that function. I am not sure that he has quite the clout of Pres Clinton, but in light of circumstances his clout will have to suffice (perhaps along with Pres Carter, who has also declined to endorse either candidate).

Yeah, speaking of kiss of death, God forbid SI puts Barack on the cover.

"In 2000, he won the presidency but did not have the gonads to fight for it against the Bush thugs."

Hmm ... Uh, sorry but this is nonsense. Gore fought for the presidency in Forida's state courts and took it all the way to the United States Supreme Court. Short of taking a gun and shooting Bush while leading a revolution, there was not much left Gore could do.

If rules have to be worked out between the Obama forces and Clinton forces regarding the proper role of super-delegates and the Michigan/Florida fiasco, a neutral Gore would be quite handy.

Actually, Gore did not take the case to the Supreme Court. He saw the case as a states rights issue as the way elections are handled is considered a state's right so long as there is no violation of constitutional rights.

Bush took the case to the SCOTUS. The name of the case was Bush v. Gore. Bush sued Gore to insure votes were not counted using the fourteenth amendment as his argument.

It was such a ground breaking case that the SCOTUS further decreed the case could never be used as precedent. In effect, the court ruled that even if the circumstances were precisely reversed, Bush would still win.

This nothing-has-changed "story" is worth reporting?

Good point. This reads a lot more like "dog bites man" than "man bites dog." That said, I am reading the thread, so I guess it must be interesting enough...

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What does everyone make of Mark McKinnon saying that if Obama's the candidate in the general election, he'll still support McCain, but from the sidelines, because he thinks the McCain campaign will have to attack Obama, and attacking Obama, in his words, just wouldn't be good for the country?????

It means that there might---just might---still be a Republican out there with a conscience.

I don't resent all this talk about a Gore endorsement like I resent the talk of an Edwards endorsement. Edwards just seems like he's craving the attention that dragging out his endorsement gives him, while in Gore's case, most of the attention is seeking him. You don't get the sense he relishes having everyone hang on his every movement like Edwards does.

Just some wild speculation on my part, but what the hell:

What if VP Al Gore is avoiding taking sides because in a deadlocked convention, the party might turn to him as a compromise Nominee to avoid a party split.

It used to happen like that in conventions long past.

That has long been the wet dream of many progressives. Problem is, the Clinton delegates in Denver would probably be at least as resistant to Gore-by-acclamation as they would be to Obama-by-acclamation, so nothing gets settled.

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I'm not a Clinton democrat, and I'd be unhappy with Gore stepping in and "saving" the party...He wasn't on any ballot, and no person cast a single damn vote for him.

Either Clinton or Obama is going to have to step aside, if it comes down to the convention, for the good of the party...

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I don't see how that's possible. There are only 700 superdelegates, so they can't decide the election on their own.

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I believe the term is brokered convention.

My estimation of Al continues to grow.

or perhaps Gore is keeping his options open if there is truly a stalemate and the Party looks for a compromise candidate

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Ok, hope this isn't a dual post. I got kicked out again. This is hilarious. It's a spoof of the clinton attack ad on the debate bs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3QaUwLNN5g

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That's hilarious! Thanks for the link.

Yes, not giving an endorsement actually gives him more influence on the process. If it comes down to a fight at the end, he'll be a voice of reason cutting through the spin from both camps.

Someone mentioned Carter in the remarks; As a Obama supporter I'm hoping he'll NOT support Obama anytime soon.

Already, those in the fringes are equating Obama abilities with Carter.

Carter can only hurt at this point.

Gore will have great credibility if he steps in at the end of the day because of he being on the wrong side of the history before.

Even Bill Kristol has the same outlook from the other side before the Potomac primary.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11kristol.html

"And there are, as a final resort, two super-superdelegates (so to speak) who would have the clout to help Democrats achieve closure: Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi.

If they stepped forward at the right time, they would earn the gratitude of their party. And they might also enjoy contemplating a derivative effect of their good deed — the fall of the house of Clinton."

(Long newbie post alert – sorry.)

Speaking as an Obama supporter, I find this news especially encouraging, especially if (and I concede it’s still a somewhat sizable if) current outcome trends hold and Obama manages to reach the convention with leads in pledged delegates, popular vote and number of states won. Who better than Al Gore to play the role of the proverbial cautionary whale (no offense, Al) when it comes to addressing the inevitably destructive consequences of overturning the expressed will of the majority of the electorate by non-electoral fiat?

While I would be disappointed to see Obama overtaken by Hillary in the remaining primary contests, I would have no major qualms about supporting her (however tepidly) if she were to somehow manage to right her campaign and win this thing outright.

However, as I see it the bottom line is this: Personally, I will not accept the legitimacy of any candidate, regardless of nominal party affiliation, who professes to want to undo the damage wrought by the most fundamentally and profoundly anti-democratic administration in my lifetime if that candidate’s claim to the nomination ultimately lies in having wrested the nomination from the rightful winner through backroom arm twisting and maneuvering.

Should Hillary manage to come from behind and prevail at the convention by virtue of superdelegates alone, she will have established herself not as an alternative to the Bush cabal, but rather its political, ethical and, yes, spiritual heir. Perhaps her more ardent supporters who may be rooting for such an outcome might pause to consider Albert Einstein’s observation that no problem is ever solved at the level at which it is created.

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I think "Nobel" Al learned his lesson in 2004 when he jumped on the Dean bandwagon, and I salute him for it.

An early endorsement from him in this contest would have held big sway. If he wants to play king maker, so be it. I think he has taken the mantle of leadership of the Democratic party from Bill Clinton. Now and in the future his opinion will be influential.

As many have already noted, standing back effectively gives Gore the "elder statesman" status to let his words carry some weight. That, and the fact that he's more popular now than when he ran for President in 2000.

If it's still unsettled as the last primaries close, it will fall to someone with stature to quiet things before matter get out of control in the long pause between then and the convention. We do not need a bitter, public, drawn-out fight as a prologue to the nomination.

And while trend lines only allow us to see what's ahead because we know what has passed, the trends favor Obama now. We can see this, we know this, and some of us are gladdened, while others are fearful or embittered. That can not become more rancorous than it already has, unless the thought of a President John McCain, with his hot-tempered, torture-endorsing, marginally stable finger on that most dangerous of buttons somehow pleases you. As for me, I prefer my leadership somewhat saner...

Al Gore has finally become the voice of reason in the Democratic party and has even become more popular than Bill Clinton. Such as contrast from 2004 when the mainstream media called Gore a sore loser and Bill Clinton a "rockstar" at the Democratic Natational Convention. Gore recognizes the need for a neutral party who can tell the Clintons to get lost if they don't have enough pledged delegates and try to steal the nomination through the use of Superdelegates or worse through a court system. Gore knows all about how fair THAT is. If Obama pulled the same trick my opinion of him would go way down as well. This superdelegate thing is ridiculous and should be taken out of the process for the next Democratic nomination process in 2012. Hopefully someone like Gore can make sure the Democratic party does not implode on itself by letting anyone win the nomination with Superdelegates.

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