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Poll: Hillary Leading By 11 Points In Ohio
The new Quinnipiac Poll is out (no link available yet), and it finds that Hillary is maintaining a comfortable lead over Obama in the must-win state of Ohio, 51%-40%.
However, that margin is down significantly from the last Q-poll, in mid-February, which had Hillary leading 55%-34%.
Quinnipiac also says that Obama is making inroads among key Hillary constituencies, concluding: “If she is to stop his momentum in Ohio, she must retain her margins among her core backers – women, older voters and those lower on the social-economic and education scale.”
One bright spot for Hillary: She is viewed more favorably than he by likely Dem primary voters.
We'll bring you the full poll when it's available.
Late Update: The full poll is available here.
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It will be very interesting to see the debate tomorrow nite in the aftermath of Hillary's multiple personality disordered appearances, starting with last week's gushing praise of Barack at the debate and ending with yesterday's Billy Graham impression. Like it or not, Obama has come across as cool, rational and composed (and just a little bemused by the whole thing, as if she were his dotty aunt over for a visit), and she has come off as erratic, high-strung, out of control and inconsistent. I will be very interested to see how this plays out tomorrow nite (if he calls her on her inconsistent behavior, if she attacks him, etc.) and what impact it will have on the polls.
February 25, 2008 9:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Weren't most polls going into WI also saying that Obama only led by about 5%? (Rhetorical answer: yes, they were.) WI ended up being a 17% blowout. So an 11-pt discrepancy is well within that rather wide margin of error.
February 25, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with Carol, Obama has come off as very presidential, as Hillary has come off as two-faced, childish and angry. I was appalled by her mocking of Obama yesterday, and the horribly hypocritical "shame on you Barack Obama" the day before that. That kind of person is not who we want in the White House. Bush is about as worthless as they come, but I have never seen him mock someone like that. Seriously, she has already called Putin soulless, do we really need her mocking world leaders when she is feeling the pinch? Way to respond well under pressure. Her primary campaign has shown up a hundred different reasons why she ISN'T ready on Day One. Talk about talk versus action.
February 25, 2008 9:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Cut her lead in half in a week or so? Any wonder that Hillary spent her weekend mocks hope and heaps scorn on his supporters sounding like some little child shrieking on a school yard
That's what happens, a sure sign that Obama's inside her OODA loop folks
She's locked into panic, survival mode
February 25, 2008 9:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gee it's quiet in here! Is the Obama rocket not rising fast enough? I expected he would be much, much closer than this. Maybe the this poll's silver lining is that it doesn't measure independent voters, only Democrats? We'll have to wait for more information. Still, I've had this funny feeling for some time that the hype regarding Obama's momentum has been far in excess of the reality on the ground. Bad expectations game-playing, if you ask me. Also a good bit of self-deception. Hillary is on target to capture at least Ohio and R.I.,(where she leads by 12 points) -- a split vote and plausible rationale to "fight on" to the convention. If this holds up, the dynamic of the contest will undergo another convulsive swing into unpredictability. Myself, I don't feel so good.
February 25, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
February 15, Hillary 55% and Obama 34%, 21%
Hillary 55%; Obama 34%; Mid-February; spread of 21
Hillary 51%; Obama 40%; Now; spread of 11
Hillary slide from a 21 point spread to an 11 point spread is good news for Hillary? In what alternative universe?
February 25, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
well, it's Greg Sargent posting this one. so, in his universe.
February 25, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't doubt that Hillary leads among Dem voters in these polls that are coming out. She's led everywhere among Dem voters. Then the day of the contest comes and she loses big. I will say this: I live in Ohio, in a medium-sized, post-industrial, working class city. And you see two types of signs around these parts - Ron Paul and Barack Obama. The Obamamentum may feel like old news to people who've already had their primary, but it's just starting to swell here in Ohio. Two separate people came to my door on Saturday, canvassing for Obama. Yard signs are popping up. The local library is hosting weekly meetings - yesterday there were over a hundred people (last week, about 30).
I know it's anecdotal, but this is supposed to be Clinton country, and I don't see or hear much support for her.
February 25, 2008 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
ABANDON ALL HOPE, YE WHO ENTER HERE.
February 25, 2008 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
This polls bodes very well for Barack. To gain 11 points in 1 week is remarkable because at that rate he will win Ohio outright.
Furthermore, Polls at this time are about momentum and this poll shows that Barack got it.
I am Obama Precint Captain in Houston (Texas Medical center Area), Texas. I have been doing some phone banking in my Precint and the feedback is an overwhelming support for Barack in all ethnic groups including Latinos and Asians.
I don't know what the polls are showing in Texas but I can assure you that Obama will be very close if not ahead of HRC.
February 25, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Through out the primary season my impression is that Quinnipiac has consistently shown a pro-Hillary bias and been slow to spot Obama's momentum in state after state.
I agree with others distaste for Hillary's outbursts over the weekend. The Hillbots over at MyDD were gushing in ecstasy. They don't seem to get it that she was not only mocking Obama, she was mocking his supporters. People do not enjoy being made fun of. It is not an effective means of persuading folks to change sides. I would love to see some reactions from undecided voters.
February 25, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Through out the primary season my impression is that Quinnipiac has consistently shown a pro-Hillary bias and been slow to spot Obama's momentum in state after state.
I agree with others distaste for Hillary's outbursts over the weekend. The Hillbots over at MyDD were gushing in ecstasy. They don't seem to get it that she was not only mocking Obama, she was mocking his supporters. People do not enjoy being made fun of. It is not an effective means of persuading folks to change sides. I would love to see some reactions from undecided voters.
February 25, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
In regards to the WI blowout, remember that WI was particularly suited for Obama: the same-day registration, Madison/Milwaukee stronghold, the open primaries, etc. Does OH have a similar situation? If not, I'd be leery of expecting a "secret" demographic that the poll somehow missed. Eleven points is still a nice lead. Of course, everything could still change in a day or two.
February 25, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have to say that I'm a little tired of the excuses that are given in every state that Obama has won (oh, it was a caucus, so it doesn't count; oh, it was a small state, so it doesn't count; oh, it was an open primary, so it doesn't count; oh, it was predominantly African-American, so it doesn't count). The fact of the matter is that Obama has a military-precisioned campaign team, a phenomenal ground plan, an electrifying presence, and a message that, right now, is ringing true to the majority of Democrats (and a good deal of independents and even moderate-leaning Republicans). He is truly a juggernaut and unless he has an absolute train-wreck (hardly likely given his performance so far), I think he will be unstoppable.
Obama has a way of eviscerating his opponent without seeming to sink down to her level; he is critical of her statements, but doesn't demean her as a person (as she does him). He seemingly stays above the fray and cuts right to the heart of the manner while still maintaining his integrity and without belittling her as a human being.
And he's cut her lead in Ohio by 11 points in one week. That's quite a difference in a short time, especially with everyone saying that she has to win both Texas and Ohio by huge margins. By election day I see the polls closing even more, especially if she continues to engage in these ridiculous, sarcastic attacks.
February 25, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillery lost in the last ten state contests, Ten in a row. Try spinning that. By the way, to this day, she has never thanked those people who came out and voted for her in those ten states. She did not want to mention the States that she had just lost in so, she decided to snub both those States and all those who voted for her. They will not forget how Hillary dumped on them.
Hillary keeps claiming that she is the Fighter with all the Experience, but Obama has put her down for the count in each of the last ten fights. Looks like Hillery has a glass jaw. She is all Boxing Gloves and no punches.
February 25, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary Clinton: Ready to be bipolar on Day One.
February 25, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
The trending is defintiely troubling for Hillary, especially with more than a week to go. This has been typically what happens. Obama has also outperformed the polling in every contest save tw, New Hampshire and California. In many cases, he has outperformed by double digits, a sort of Reverse-Bradley effect.
No wonder she's go all out negative. She had better hope that Ohio is more like New Hampshire than Wisconsin.
February 25, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
when a presidential candidate starts reminding you of George Castanza's mother, that can't be good.
February 25, 2008 9:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL! ;)
February 25, 2008 9:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm encouraged by the anecdotal post from Ohio. The fact that Obama has surged 10 points in as many days is good news so long as his trajectory remains the same and Hillary doesn't have another news-stopping Hallmark moment in the next debate and John Edwards doesn't endorse her immediately afterward. There's only 8 days to go with 11 points still to be made up for a tie, and god knows what house-top grandstanding may occur between now and then. The woman knows how to get attention! But again the key here is whether this poll is measuring likely voters in the democratic primary (including Republicans and Independents) or registered democrats only. I'm waiting for more information.
February 25, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Polls have been wacky most of this primary season so I wouldn't read too much into them either way. But I find it really hard to imagine most folks seeing Hillary's recent borderline-insane sarcasm rant ("The skies will open up...") and not having a panic attack at the thought of listening to that for 4 years. Between that speech and the "Shame on you Obama" hysteria 2 days ago she genuinely seems to have lost control.
She's starting to look like the only thing she'll be ready for on day one is a month's stay in Happydale Sanitarium.
Before I get accused of sexism for suggesting she's become hysterical I'd point out the same type of shrillness and hysterics sank Howard Dean. But Hillary has a lot more experience on the national scene than Dean had. She should know these things might please her die-hard supporters but this isn't going to bring any new people to her, it's going to turn folks off.
And if she goes after him hammer and tongs at the nwext debate he should stay cool, quote her "I'm so honored" testimonial to him from last week and move on to another subject. At least one of them ought to look presidential.
February 25, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're not wrong. Q-Poll has a turnout model that tends to favor the "establishment" candidate getting "establishment" votes. I noticed this back during the CT primary in '06. It understated Lamont's margin in the primary and overstated Lieberman's margin in the general. I've seen the same pattern in this election.
I've also noticed that university-run polls have consistently understated the youth turnout this election. I've suspected professors just can't imagine undergrads being unapathatic; kind of an "extraordinary hypotheses require extraordinanry proof" thing.
February 25, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
The way Ohio's primary works is thus: all registered voters can vote for either party. You get a card, you circle Republican or Democrat, and you vote for the person you want to vote for. So, same day registration will not be a factor. Cross-over voters will be a factor, though, and just like everywhere else, independents and Republicans are voting for Obama as well. What will be interesting is if the Limbaughbots will go out and vote for Hillary to throw a monkey wrench in the Dem race. We'll see.
February 25, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Even if Hillary wins Ohio by 10 points, it won't be enough to win the nomination.
Hillary is asking her donors to believe in false hope. Ironic, isn't it?
February 25, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
10 points down the BO-toilet in one week?
Where are my meds?
February 25, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Having grown up in Cincinnati area with relatives scattered throughout the state of Ohio - I don't hold much hope for Obama taking the state. As much as I wish we could become a race neutral America, Ohio is a cesspool of racism.
The downturn in the state's industrial infrastructure just made it worse - the native born white Ohio-ian hates anyone that isn't their mirror image. Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, you name it...sad but true.
Small pockets of progressives, here and there, but most flee the state as soon as they can. I hope to God, I'm wrong - that this inspirational movement has touched the people of Ohio - that they finally do believe that change can happen, will happen... because it is truly ugly back in Ohio...
February 25, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Cincinnati is a cesspool of racism, not Ohio. Cinci is probably the worst city in the country in terms of race relations.
February 25, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hm, I have never spent even ten seconds in Cincinnati, but I have a hard time believing that it is any more divided than St Louis (my home town) or Memphis. In any event, I would like to re-iterate my response to the main point here - there is no shortage of racists voting in the democratic primary here in MO, and yet Obama still managed to eke out a victory here. His appeal to our better angels, delightfully enough, is able to overcome the obstacle of racists turning out to vote against him, and I find that a really wonderful point of which to take note.
February 25, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but in that respect it is not much different from Missouri, and look how we turned out (narrow Obama victory). Don't lose hope, in other words.
February 25, 2008 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
A informative post would be the numerous news reports coming out of texas that early voting is off the charts. They are running out of ballots in some obama precincts. Areas that presumably are favorable to obama have seen their early voting increase by a factor of 8 or more and the early voting in clinton favorable areas are about double, which is still good, but the numbers clearly favor obama. Texas looks very good for obama. Where is the clintons' firewall going to be now? Puerto Rico?
February 25, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
I haven't been impressed with Quinnipiac's methodology in its last, few polls, and that holds true here. Frankly, I'm inclined to discard its results - including the illusory momentum it purports to show for Obama - and rely on other pollsters, instead.
Here's the thing about that momentum. About half of it comes from Quinnipiac finally using a more representative sample. Its last poll sample split something like 62-38, and this one 56-44, among women/men. That latter ratio is still higher than what we saw in 2004, but it's at least plausible. The poll, like most, continues to understate Obama's black support - does anyone really think he's going to garner just 68% of the black votes, or that Hillary will do as well as 20%? Reverse Bradley-Wilder, take a bow.
About the only interesting pieces of information in the poll come from its cross-tabs. Among likely Democratic Primary Voters, Hillary has higher positives than Obama. Fascinatingly, her negatives are lower than his among women, among whites, and most of all, among white women.
And in coming attractions: The Quinnipiac release skips questions 4-6. In the last poll, those were the questions pitting Hillary and Obama against McCain in head-to-head matchups. Look for another release trumpeting those results tomorrow. Because, at the end of the day, Quinnipiac is in the headline-generating business, not the accurate-predictions business. Their tri-state polling is quite good, and often the only game in town. But when they go wandering off chasing the media cycle, they tend to get themselves in a little bit of trouble.
(For the curious, the poll was in the field Feb 18-23, so we're already several news cycles past its results).
February 25, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Q-poll is weighted more towards Clinton than other recent polls, but with 8 days before the primary it is clear that it is a tightening race and if Obama loses in Ohio it will be very close. WaPO poll (best accuracy this season according to Pollster) has it within 7, Rasmussen within 8 and so on. I personally think the crossover Indies and Rs will put Obama in the lead in Ohio. Looks to me that their voter screen really doesn't allow much for that. Approaching the primary day as an underdog who is surging isn't a bad spot to be in.
Just to keep her race alive Clinton needs blowouts in Texas and Ohio. Texas according to polling is now a dead heat, and Ohio is close. Bill Clinton says Hillary must win TX to stay alive. I predict Obama takes Texas handily. Kos predicts by ten points. He will be close or squeeze out a narrow in in Ohio. Bottom line.. Mar. 4 it's over for Clinton.
February 25, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Politics is one of the most irrational things there is. Whenever I start paying close attention to it, I myself start feeling not quite sane. It's true that Hillary's recent performances suggest she's not fit emotionally to be president, and you would think that everyone else would see the same thing. But my guess is that what will really echo in the minds of many folks is not her strident performance as such, but the words "Shame on you, Barack Obama!" It's a sound bite proclaimed from the house-top, and it's gotten huge, FREE distribution. The woman knows how to get attention! How many waffling people poised to put their X beside Obama's name will hear the faint refrain "Shame on you!" instead and wind up voting for Clinton?
February 25, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thats great for her in the primary if this is true. My bet, though, is that she offended a great number of Obama supporters with that comment - and likely shied them away from voting in November if he is not the candidate. Thing is, Obama brings in new people to the party - something no other candidate has done on a level he has recently. Undermining that will set back the DNC for years to come - and if the Democrat voters of Ohio and Texas don't vote Hillary out, we may see some serious burnout amongst Obama fans who are tired of seeing their man get hit from Clinton, McCain, and now Nader.
February 25, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
HIllary's strategy right now [if you can call it a strategy -- it's starting to look more like a way to get through from one day to the next without having to face up to the truth] is a purely defensive one ... her attacks aren't aimed at building support, just at trying to prevent Obama from catching fire with her core constituents and at defusing some enthusiasm in the hope [!] of depressing turnout.
She's not trying to grow that gap, just praying that 11 poitns is enough of a gap that she can slow it's erosions sufficiently to end up with a win one week from now.
Depressing strategy.
February 25, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here is a story on the breakdown of early voting in texas. It's shocking.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/casey/5563835.html
February 25, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Question about the oft cited racism of Ohioans as a factor here? If Ohioans won't vote for an African American, how did they manage to elect Ken Blackwell as Sec. of State? Are they only racist towards Dem candidates?
February 25, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. Cinci is very conservative. The politics there are really messed up, with a very interesting history. Very, very Catholic city. Here's what I don't know, though. I think that a lot of Republicans will be voting in the Dem primary. Will they vote for Hillary to throw a wrench in the Dems' process, or will they vote for Obama because they can't stand Hillary and want her out of the picture for good? I'm guessing that the two camps will even each other out. The dems in Rep hotbed places like Cinci are either black or very progressive, so I'm not sure Obama won't do well there.
February 25, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
The problem with Ohio is that if we had an election between getting a free cupcake or being poked in the eye with a sharp pointed stick, and if someone were to happen to put a commercial on tv accusing the delicious cupcake of being a flipflopper that supports gay marriage...
Well I would recommend investing in any companies that made eyepatches.
11 points still seems about 6 or 7 points too high.
February 25, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Semi-answer about the racism of Ohioans. I was brought up in Springfield, OH. Home of Navistar/International and Wittenberg University. It was selected by Newsweek back in 1980 as the most American city in the country. And during the last Presidential election, it was selected as the most swing city in the country by out-of-country people trying to sway the election with letters. (That didn't really work.)
Springfield is strongly divided by race. There are two high schools - North (the overwhelmingly white one) and South (the overwhelmingly African-American one). The northern suburbs were also overwhelmingly white, but are starting to blend a bit.
My relatives who are still there are relatively progressive/populist on most issues, but regularly make racist comments without much thought.
If you add generally Appalachian and white Southern Ohio to this mix, you have overall tendencies that are closer to the deep South than anywhere else in the Midwest. Okay - that might be a little over-the-top, but I'll stick by it.
February 25, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
What has the early voting turnout looked like in Ohio? Clinton's best shot to take the state may be in those votes, which are/were made when she's still polling well.
February 25, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I went to the Obama rally in Toledo yesterday afternoon (came down from S.E. Michigan). My wife worked as a volunteer for the event. Both of us came away with the same observation: an enormous number of the people we met and spoke with were first time 'voters to be'. They had never before been active or involved in the political process (various reasons offered, from cynicism to apathy, etc.). Does the polling capture these voices?
The event was held at Savage Hall (on the University of Toledo main campus) - a venue that seats 9,000 for basketball games. There was an estimated 10,000 there, with many turned away and still waiting outside in the cold. Apparently Clinton had held a rally earlier in the week - I'm told that many were turned away from that rally as well. But, the big difference: the Clinton rally was held at a local high school gymnasium with a capacity of a little under 3,000.
Toledo, in other words - a city that should be very strong for Clinton - would seem to be a much closer contest.
February 25, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'd like to see polls taken after her bitter "shame on you" press conference, and the sarcastic "choirs will sing" campaign speech. If those did not cause significant movement in Obama's direction I would be concerned.
February 25, 2008 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Michael A,
thanks for the link. Hopefully Mr. Obama will recieve the majority of delegates in Texas.
February 25, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if Hillary's "celestial choirs" moment, and others like it, won't be like Mondale's "Where's the beef" moment against Gary Hart, which basically took the man down.
Sarcasm has a wonderful way of working, when other things don't.
We'll see.
February 25, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
What's wrong with Ohio? Haven't they witness Senator Clinton's theatrics over the weekend?
February 25, 2008 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the more interesting of recent polls are those showing McCain consistently beating Hillary (and by increasing margins)while Senator Obama beats/draws with McCain.
I don't know how to comment on Hillary's recent drama other than to say it's both embarrassing and offensive.
February 25, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
both embarrassing and offensive
Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what Gary Hart's followers said when Mondale asked Hart, "Where's the beef?".
February 25, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
The difference between Mondale & Hillary is he didn't insult Hart's constituancy. I have always liked Hillary but just went cold at the heavens rift. She has gone beyond the 'insult 40 states' strategy to the insult 1/2 the democratic party and a lot of independents strategy.
I don't think anyone really expects Barack to win Ohio (well most don't anyway) given how far ahead she was and the demo make-up but if he can come within 7-8 points I think that will be enough - and it looks like he is close to that if not already there.
Hillary has just gone off the deep end.
February 25, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
The funny thing is that she is insulting her own constituencies as well. Every state that she loses and blows off as not being significant or not at least giving a thank you to all the hard work and effort by the volunteers in those states piss people off. Not only is she pissing off 1/2 the democratic party, but probly at least 3/4's based on her conduct. How on earth does she possibly think that she could win in november. The clintons are delusional.
February 25, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
We believe the polls when it suits us and discard them when they don't. Sen. Obama projects a squeaky clean image and sends surrogates out to do his dirty work. It is a great irony that the people who are calling Hillary bipolar are upset because there is a picture out of Obama in ethnic garb.
He is hitting Hillary on NAFTA but voted the same way she did to revise it.
The same folks who feel insulted when Obama misrepresents Hillary's words about followers be delusional, he said it, and I will admit it was good politics.
One question, what change did he bring to the district he represented in IL. When last I checked the slums are still there.
February 25, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Basking in the benefits of that wonderful Hillary Health Care for the past 15 years, are you, since Hillary worked so hard on it back in 1993. See how stupid your question about why Senator Obama did not eliminate poverty looks now!
February 25, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sen. Obama, "I know her voters will vote for me, but I am not sure mine will vote for her?" That was very arrogant. He is taking people for granted.
As far as I am concerned there was nothing wrong with what she did over the weekend. it just shows that she will fight for me when necessary.
February 25, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
No she will not. She blew off those who voted for her in the last ten states which she gotten beaten in. She never even mentioned their states or thanked them for having supported her.
She is fighting for her political life. She does not care about you, or all those who voted for her in the last ten states. To this very date she has not even mention them or thanked them for their support.
February 25, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has attracted almost all of the independent voters and some Republicans (in the open primaries) - that is what he reasonably meant about her being less likely to get his voters in the fall.
And about her "shame on you" press conference behavior over the weekend - can you imagine any of the successful modern presidents getting that publicly bitter in tone? Being a bit stern with some finger-wagging (i.e. Bill Clinton style) perhaps, but that yelling, scolding anger in her "shame on you" statement went too far for what most people expect from a president.
February 25, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
when i examined the poll, i didn't see her losing her constituency. i saw her lead shrinking among men which is how the trend has been recently.
It just dawned on me that maybe some people want Hillary out of the race before the Rezko trial starts, which by his own admission Obama made a "boneheaded decision" to purchase the adjoining land from Rezko's wife for $300,000 under market value.
February 25, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
People want Hillary out of the race because she is perceived as a loser. Any candidate that squanders a huge national lead like she had, and squandered the huge campaign War Chest that she collected from Washington Corporate Lobbyists is going to lose the support of a majority of the voters. She is incompetent, and the voters are aware of that fact.
February 25, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink