Obama Wins Maine By Large Margin, Signaling Dark Stretch Ahead For Hillary Camp

CNN and MSNBC have just called Maine for Obama, giving him another sizable victory in a state that was supposed to act as a check on his momentum after yesterday's trio of landslide wins. Instead, tonight's outcome gave him another burst of forward motion in a month that's shaping up as a very dark one indeed for Hillary.

With 70% reporting, Obama had 58% to Hillary's 41%. The surprisingly big victory for Obama came on the same day as the Hillary campaign signaled a recognition of its travails by announcing a shuffling of their inner circle, replacing campaign manager and longtime loyalist Patti Solis Doyle with longtime Hillary confidant Maggie Williams.

Obama's victory effectively left Hillary advisers grappling with the possibility that the worst case scenario that they'd been anticipating for some time could come true: The prospect of no victories for the rest of February. This coming Tuesday, Obama could very well sweep the Potomac Primary -- Virginia, Maryland, and Washington, D.C.

Obama's prospects are also pretty good in Wisconsin a week later, because he can run especially well in two major Dem strongholds, the left-wing college town of Madison and the urban center of Milwaukee, as well as in other locales.

That leaves the Hillary campaign potentially staring across a bleak February landscape all the way to March 4th for a real shot at turning the narrative of the race around -- a grim set of circumstances that Hillary advisers have been anticipating for some time.

Time and again in this race, though, Hillary has had her back to the wall, only to find that the female vote, perhaps driven by the sight of Hillary on the verge of defeat, has rallied around her and changed the story-line of the race. Women helped drive her surprise victory in New Hampshire, and were an instrumental part of her winning coalition of female, Latino, working class and older voters that propelled her to key victories in big states on Feb. 5th.

The question now is how strong Hillary's coalition will prove in March, in the face of whatever momentum Obama builds coming out of what are expected to be repeated victories throughout the rest of the month. Of course, it's perfectly possible that whatever momentum he has, the proportional system will ensure that this race grinds on all the way until the convention. Advisers from both campaigns have predicted this outcome. And super-delegates are another wild card.

Which is to say, as big as Obama's victory was tonight and yesterday, and while he's in a strong position, it's still anyone's guess how this comes out.


Comments (158)

FABULOUS!

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Just a reminder, once again.

No gloating please. Some big eggs have not yet been hatched.

I want to caution all those who are reading too much into where things now stand. The race is neck and neck as we head into the home stretch.

Now to mix metaphors: OPT. Ohio. Pennsylvania, Texas

The nomination is not over until after The Fat States Sing.

OPT for Hope

OPT for Change

OPT for the Future

OPT for Peace

OPT for Optimism

OPT for Obama

OPT. Ohio. Pennsylvania. Texas

OPT to win them for Obama

Work the vote for Obama in the OPT triangle that will decide the race.

You rang?

Are you calling me fat??!?! Well, I am not, but we do have two of the top 10 fattest cities in the US! Big time win by a big time player.

The women pitty vote?

Oh common, there could be a better narrative or explanation than that.

I would hope that she would at least be credited with re-tooling her message.

"Time and again in this race, though, Hillary has had her back to the wall, only to find that the female vote, perhaps driven by the sight of Hillary on the verge of defeat, has rallied around her and changed the story-line of the race."

Stay tuned, Hillary is tied to the RR track and only the women can untie the ropes so she escapes the man with the black moustache.

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A long dark stretch.....I guess thats it......boo hooo I guess it's over like Iowa...all over again. Groundhog day.

a grim set of circumstances that Hillary advisers have been anticipating for some time.

I doubt this. They had no plans for after Super Tuesday; they are staggering in the dark. In fact, I can just picture an HRC adviser saying, ala the Bushies, "No one could have anticipated that Obama would run the table for the rest of February."

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A Grammy win and a win in Maine. Good!

The race now has a new, never before seen element: momentum.

There were enough expectations (there's that word again) of a Clinton victory in Maine that the Obama team will be able to get some extra mileage out of this.

Polls in TX & OH after Tuesday will show us what is really happening.

And as for a late Hillary surge in VA, it seems a little less likely now that there have been a number of races under their belts and the size of the state is much larger.

The irony that I see is that the calendar was designed to favor a candidacy by Hillary. Feb. 5th was to end it. But this new stretch of the road is proving to be her undoing, something they probably never ever envisioned. Probably never gave it much thought.

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Hey! Let's not forget Maryland, Virginia, and D.C. this week . . . these states are important primary contests too, and shouldn't necessarily overshadowed by the big 3 coming up.

Headin' on down to MD to get out the vote there. See y'all there!

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i will be looking to see how HRC new campaign manager will respond to these 4 losses!!! Will Hillary go on the attack? its obvious that this "nice" Hillary that we have seen lately ain't working...
They need a win to get some positive news coverage...Tomorrow all the pundits will be diggin HRC grave...But as we have seen, Hillary is like a vampire, you have to stab the thing in its heart, anything less and she still can come back and surprise you...

her husband ripped her heart out and she kept going too. maybe she doesn't have a heart?

Nails in the Coffin:
1) Not finishing the race on Feb 5
2) Getting Blown out in the Chesepeake
3) Losing Ohio or Texas
4) ??

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What the Clinton people are absolutely desperate for at this moment is someone who can play every filthy card in the deck (race, drugs, you name it) while remaining a) firmly within the control of the campaign, and b) at a far enough remove that they can still deny having anything to do with it should the character assassination strategy backfire again.

I don't see them finding (or, indeed, constructing) such an instrument anytime soon.

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Beautiful. Now if only he can keep it up (and I hope he can).

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Its time for Hillary to step aside!

This split system is only going to hurt the party and our chance to gain the white house AND solidify the congress.

Step down and maybe the Big O will give you a spot on the Supreme court!

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It looks like Hillary is trying to create the narrative that her campaign is dead. This way, she will be able to claim a "miracle" when she wins Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Texas as previously expected. Then she'll claim that it shows how strong she is as a politician because she keeps getting back up after they knock her down.

Seems a risky strategy. Claim your campaign is dead successfully enough, and voters might just believe you.

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After all, it worked so well for Rudy. Hey, wait...

You can't tell me this is a purposeful strategy, any more then betting everything on Florida was the purposeful strategy for Rudy. It was the only avenue left to him so yeah he says that it was their plan all along. The simple answer tends to be the explanation.

The simple answer is that they expected to walk away with it on Super Tuesday. The nomination was to be hers on a gem studded platter. Everyone already knows her name. The Clinton's called in their markers and got a Super Tuesday crafted to seal the deal for Hillary early such that her margin was so huge everyone else would just drop out. The Clinton's brought in McAuliffe, one of the biggest names in Dem fundraising, a man known to be able to get blood from a stone. To this day she still leads with Superdelegates added in. Why? Because 55% of the Superdelegates that have said they side with her are DNC party insiders. Not governors. Not senators or congresspeople. DNC party insiders.

The simple answer is that the Obama campaign has outmaneuvered them. Your competition has instant name recognition? Go retail, voter by voter. Your competition has huge fundraising built over decades and a two term presidency? Go grassroots, get every $3, or $25, or $100 donation you can find. Your competition is being handed the election by party insiders? Run a 50 state strategy and get every delegate you can find everywhere, even places the establishment would normally ignore.

Win or loose when this is over people are going to study what Obama has managed to do for decades. She can still win, don't ever doubt it. She has such an insider advantage that it might simply not be possible for Obama to upset her. But win or loose you have to sit back and look at this thing from 50,000 feet and marvel at what he has manged thus far. Because this wasn't supposed to happen. The Clinton's never expected it would. And you can bet their staff is working feverishly to put Humpty Dumpty back together again before the end of February.

Amen.

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Much has been made of the "Obama's the caucus guy, not the primary guy" kind-of talk. Some research here, folks, is below. The truth is Obama and Clinton are virtually ties on the number of primaries won, and Obama's won just about all the other races, which have been caucuses. So Clinton's just sour grapes (she certainly hasn't minimized her one solitary Nevada caucus win):

Obama Primary Winners (9 altogether):
South Carolina
Alabama
Connecticut
Illinois
Missouri
Utah
Louisiana
Delaware
Georgia

Clinton's Primary Winners (10 altogether):
New Hampshire
Michigan
Arizona
California
Massachusetts
New Jersey
New York
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Arkansas

Obama's Caucus Winners (9 altogether):
Iowa
Alaska
Colorado
Idaho
Kansas
Minnesota
North Dakota
Nebraska
Washington

Clinton's Caucus Winners (1 altogether):
Nevada

Uncontested or Inconclusive at this writing:
Florida
Michigan
Maine
New Mexico

Obama won 13-12 in the NH delegates. Popular vote, as we know, means nothing in a Constitutional Republic.

oops, i meant nevada. NH was a tie at 9-9.

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I'll just add to the above commentary that Obama actually has accrued slightly more votes in primaries than Clinton has. In head-to-head votes, he's taken 50.09 % of the vote to her 49.93%. The margin is tiny, but it's still there.

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The problem is that Hillary's hopes for Ohio, PA, and TX are like Guilliani's hopes for FL. Obama has a big head of steam. He looks and smells like a winner. And people like to vote for a winner. If Obama blows through the potomac primary and Wisconsin on the 19th, he will likely win TX, OH, and PA. That's what momentum is all about.

Intrade Market:

70.0 - Obama

30.0 - Clinton

The "odds" are for the Dem Nomination.

(odds also looking good for presidency for Obama)

Let's keep the momentum going.

Very good day for Obama! ♪♪♪

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Yeah,it's great.

But look at the Intrade race for president where Obama is beating McCain.

2008 PRES OBAMA 46.5
2008 PRES MCCAIN 33.0

Saw that too! ♪♪♪

(and Hill is like 21 or something... so way down!)

And we all know how spot on those folks were in the 2004 election.

Amen. I am an Obama supporter, so I am perfectly eager to believe that Obama is edging ahead, but the intrade markets are totally irrelevant to that consideration. The intraders know nothing more than we do and (the vaunted "wisome of the markets" aside) are no more likely than we are to predict the winner accurately. They simply provide more grist for the useless pundits' mill. We would all do well to ignore intrade, in my humble opinion.

Dana99, in your list, you've put Michigan in both "Clinton's Primary Winners" and "Uncontested or Inconclusive at this Writing".

Also, you put Maine in "Uncontested or Inconclusive". This thread is about the fact that there was a contest, which reached a conclusion.

Good job, Dana. It's nice to see it laid out like that.

Additionally, the Nevada caucus was actually a win for Obama, delegate-wise.

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Feeling the mo again. The problem for the clintons is that all these wins were by huge margins. It wasn't even close, so the spin is tough for them. Also, people see the big wins period, not whether its a caucus or a primary or concerning the african-american turnout. A win is a win. If he barnstorms through february with big wins, then he will be in a good position on march 4th based on all the press and blow-out headlines. Could be interesting. There is always hope.

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I was secretary for my town's caucus, a Barack kind of Portland suburb, lots of docs and lawyers and business owners (lots of Repubs, too). In line to register, 17-year-old HS seniors and juniors, including a young man whose grandfather is a major Bush fundraiser and, in appreciation, an ambassador. 669 voters (including absentees). I think the most we've ever had is 250. (And well under 200 Repubs caucused last week). 478 for Barack, 185 for Hillary. My adrenaline was sky-high, and now I'm crashing.

Best part? Sitting at my table, banging minutes into a laptop, staring at more than 600 people sitting in a HS gym's bleachers. Clinton advocate speaks. Very nice applause all around. Barack's advocate is introduced. Sonic boom. The noise blew me back in my chair, my hands flew up from the keyboard to my mouth, involuntarily. Chills. Got a little verklempt. Cheering, whistling, foot-stomping, chanting. Absolutely incredible. Same stories from friends in other Portland burbs. I was worried about Portland, Lewiston, Bangor, but now, not so much.

On to the Chesapeake!

I received by email the most amazing story from someone at a MN caucus on Tuesday. Cars backed up. School total chaos. Obama! (x10)

Thanks so much for your report. It really helps to get the participant's view.

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Wow, sounds like it was a great experience today. Thanks for sharing Kathleen.

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Good point about Michigan. I'll restate. The only reason I left out Maine was that less than 100% of the vote is in...but, hell, we can agree, i think that the call for Obama's takeover there is good. Thanks, Zell!

Obama Primary Winners (9 altogether):
South Carolina
Alabama
Connecticut
Illinois
Missouri
Utah
Louisiana
Delaware
Georgia

Clinton's Primary Winners (9 altogether):
New Hampshire
Arizona
California
Massachusetts
New Jersey
New York
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Arkansas

Obama's Caucus Winners (10 altogether):
Iowa
Alaska
Colorado
Idaho
Kansas
Minnesota
North Dakota
Nebraska
Washington
Maine

Clinton's Caucus Winners (1 altogether):
Nevada

Uncontested or Inconclusive at this writing:
Florida
Michigan
New Mexico

To be strictly accurate, Sen Clinton has also won the caucuses in American Samoa, so she actually has two caucus wins, not one. Of course, by that same reckoning Sen Obama also won the caucuses in the Virgin Islands and Democrats Abroad.

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As of now, Hillary has encountered the perfect storm: of (1) Clinton Fatigue, (2) Obama mania, and (3) the specter of John McCain, to whom she would be McCain Lite.

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Even if Hillary were to win Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania she would likely gain fewer delegates than Obama did when he won Washington. Things are not looking good for the Clintons.

As Hillary's chances fade the big question will be whether she acts gracefully or not. Judging by the panic that set in after Iowa that I think we all know the answer.

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At 79% reporting, it's basically 59-41.

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Ah, those elitist Maine voters...

I'm not quite sure what HRC does from here on in. She'll hope that there's a firewall in Ohio, Texas and PA. And indeed there might be. It's way too early for Obama supporters to be popping champagne.

But if you are a betting person, I think you know what you'd think at this moment (even more so after Tuesday night). No wins in one whole crucial month. That's hard to spin.

Super Tuesday was meant to be the day when Obama was knocked out of the race. The fact that he wasn't and is having/about to have this spectacular run of events is just a killer.

By the way, what's the latest on the pledged delegates? All CNN and MSNBC tell us are the combo numbers. There's no way that the supers will overturn any lead Obama has going into the Convention.


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In terms of delegates count I go with AP or with RCP.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html


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Let's all get re-energized... Donate, volunteer, make calls, knock on doors, stuff like that.

Obama '08.

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One thin I notice a couple of weeks ago when Obama came to the Twin Cities and the when we caucus here in Rochester MN is that I was expecting to see a lots of young kids (HS and college). But my surprise is that they are bringing their parents. I went with my son and there was a lot of cases like that. Again, when I went to caucus I found a lot of middle aged men and women and I thought, hmm, this is not so good. Well, Obama won 2 to 1 in my place and all across MN, even in rural areas. I do not see the media telling this, but it is happening.

Saw the same thing in the northwest suburbs of Minneapolis. Very exciting energy level!

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Clinton can only hope to staunch the bleeding, because it doesn't look like she'll stiop it any time before Wisconsin.

She ahs to stop these double digit wins. IF she's swept in double digit wins on Tuesday, I'd expect a lot of Super Delegates to start endorsing Obama.

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What ever happened to the Iraq War issue. Do not let them con you into believing that the Surge is working. Five American Soldiers were blown to smithereens yesterday.

Now read the following report about what happened in Iraq this very day, and the same kind of thing has been happening on a more frequent basis.

When you read it, keep in mind that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton still thinks that her vote to authorize the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq was not a Reckless and Catastrophic mistake on her part. George W. Bush, and John McCain agree with her. Now read what happened in Iraq this very day. The Surge is working; My Arse!


BAGHDAD - Car bombs and gunmen struck new U.S. allies, police and civilians Sunday in northern Iraq, killing as many as 53 people. The spate of attacks came even as the American military released a captured diary and another document they say show al-Qaida in Iraq cracking under a Sunni revolt against its brutal tactics.
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The violence coincided with a visit by Defense Secretary Robert Gates to Baghdad, where he warned that hard choices face Iraq's political leaders on how to stabilize the country despite promising new signs of progress toward reconciliation.

The deadliest bombing on Sunday was near Balad, 50 miles north of Baghdad, against a checkpoint manned jointly by Iraqi police and members of an awakening group.

Iraqi police said a suicide truck bomber targeted a checkpoint manned by U.S.-allied fighters and Iraqi police at the entrance of a bridge in the district of Yathrib on the outskirts of Balad. Security forces opened fire on the driver, but he managed to detonate his payload, devastating a nearby car market and other stores.

Police in the joint coordination center of the surrounding Salahuddin province and hospital officials said 34 people were killed and 37 others were wounded. Capt. Kadim Hamid said many residents in the predominantly Sunni area had removed victims directly from the site because they feared going to the hospital in Balad's mostly Shiite center.

The U.S. military put the casualty toll at 23 killed, 25 wounded and said a car bomb exploded near an Iraqi checkpoint in a market in Balad, but it did not confirm it was a suicide attack. U.S. and Iraqi forces had secured the area and the wounded had been evacuated to hospitals, according to a statement.

It was one of the worst bombings this year amid a recent lull in violence and underscored U.S. warnings that al-Qaida in Iraq remains a serious threat despite military offensives that have severely curtailed its operations.

The explosion came hours after suspected al-Qaida-linked insurgents stormed two villages near the Syrian border but were repelled by U.S.-allied fighters and Iraqi security forces in clashes that left at least 22 people dead.

Sheik Fawaz al-Jarba, the head of the Mosul anti-al-Qaida group, and other officials said the 22 killed included 10 militants and six members of the so-called awakening group in the area, as well as four women and two children.

The U.S. military in northern Iraq confirmed an attack on compound housing its Sunni allies against al-Qaida in Iraq near Sinjar, about 60 miles west of Mosul, saying five U.S.-allied fighters were killed, five wounded and 10 insurgents were killed.

Insurgents also attacked a group of civilians elsewhere in the northern Ninevah province on Sunday, killing two men and one child and wounding two other men, two women and two infants, according to the military.

Iraqi police also said four civilians were killed Sunday when a tanker truck laden with explosives blew up near an Iraqi army checkpoint on Mosul's southern outskirts.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has promised a "decisive battle" against the terror network in Mosul but given no start date. The U.S. military has warned it will not be a swift strike, but rather a grinding campaign that will require more firepower.

An al-Qaida front group for northern Iraq warned last week in an Internet statement that it was launching its own campaign in Mosul and surrounding areas.

In all, 70 people were reported killed or found dead by police on Sunday, one of the highest nationwide death tolls in recent months. That figure included three policemen who perished in a suicide car bombing at a checkpoint in the Anbar city of Fallujah and 10 bullet-riddled bodies showing signs of torture.

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Agreed liam, lots of people are dying every day in this horrible war and no news as always. Why isn't it on the front page? Oh, maybe because the two establishment candidates that want to line the pockets of war profiteers and big business aren't doing so well (clinton and mccain). Kind of interesting that mccain started to "surge" when the press started ignoring the death and destruction. Unfortunately for the clintons, the same thing didn't happen to them. Thank God.

BTW, I am so sick of hearing how the surge was successful. Are people that stupid? The sunni parts of baghdad are like ghost towns. The ones that aren't dead fled. Petraeus started arming the sunnis to protect their areas from the shiites outside of baghdad. No the surge was a failure, the iraqis are partitioning up their country whether we like it or not. We need to get the sunni arab countries in a gd summit to figure out what they want to do about the situation. The shiites will never share power with the sunnis. After decades of oppression can you blame them? Anyway, what a major clusterf*ck, but oh everything is rosy. Not.

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And just today, Hillary was talking about how, in order to beat MaCain, we have to show we're tougher than the Republicans on national security.

I keep hearing how smart Hillary is. For someone so smart, she sure seems unable to learn from her mistakes.

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Anyone from OH or PA out there? I'm under the impression that folks in those states don't think to highly of NAFTA. Are these states firewalls because HRC has state D party leadership on board?

Obama's victory effectively left Hillary advisers grappling with the possibility that the worst case scenario that they'd been anticipating for some time could come true: The prospect of no victories for the whole month of February.

I know it's been a whole 5 days since Super Tuesday, but you seem to have forgotten NY, NJ, CA, OK, MA, AZ, TN, AK, and very likely NM.

I respectfully ask that you change that picture. It literally makes me queasy. And as soon as I see it, I scroll past without reading. I doubt you will attract many readers... and may turn more than me away.

Hillary would make a good head of the department of Health, Education and Welfare, if there still was such a cabinet position.

Hope she joins the Obama team instead of fighting the wave.

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And don't criticize what you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command
The old road is rapidly aging
Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand
For the times, they are a-changing

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On Minnesota again, I noticed that Al Franken campaigned caucus night in senate district 44, his hometown and an area of the Twin Cities with a significant percentage of suburban Jewish voters. Obama got 67% of the vote in 44.

Obama's victory effectively left Hillary advisers grappling with the possibility that the worst case scenario that they'd been anticipating for some time could come true: The prospect of no victories for the whole month of February.

I know it's been a whole 5 days since Super Tuesday, but you seem to have forgotten NY, NJ, CA, OK, MA, AZ, TN, AK, and very likely NM.

Obama's victory effectively left Hillary advisers grappling with the possibility that the worst case scenario that they'd been anticipating for some time could come true: The prospect of no victories for the whole month of February.

I know it's been a whole 5 days since Super Tuesday, but you seem to have forgotten NY, NJ, CA, OK, MA, AZ, TN, AK, and very likely NM.

Obama's victory effectively left Hillary advisers grappling with the possibility that the worst case scenario that they'd been anticipating for some time could come true: The prospect of no victories for the whole month of February.

I know it's been a whole 5 days since Super Tuesday, but you seem to have forgotten NY, NJ, CA, OK, MA, AZ, TN, AK, and very likely NM.

Very interesting weekend results. I wonder if people are starting to feel like I do about the Clinton candidancy? For me, the Big Dawg's race-baiting was an important turning point in this remarkable saga. I for one was moved from being undecided right toward Obama.

Here's why. Our "first black president" used very carefully woven language to brand Obama as the "black" candidate. Old "aw shucks" Bill knew exactly what he was doing and it was a very dangerous game their campaign opened. The overt cynicism of the Clinton's in S.C. got me thinking about Bill and Hillary's years in the White House and I was reminded of a few troubling memories.

* Hillary is a Senator and a national candidate because she has hitched her wagon to the Big Dawg. She is very competent and I will vote for her IF she wins fair and square, but the reality is that she's only in the game because of her husband. So much for her feminist credentials. Wouldn't a woman accomplished in her own right be a better historical choice as the first female president? Is America about to be compared to Argentina as the other prime example of an "incestous democracy" in this regard?

* Then I thought about the fact that there is a real dynastic stench to the occupants of the White House since George H.W.Bush was installed as Reagan's VP. I will turn 54 years before the next president is sworn in. If Hillary wins two terms, that will mean that I will be an old man of 62 years and the White House will have been occupied essentially by just two families for more than half of my life - that's 36 years or 58% of my life! Pinch me when democracy awakens just in time for me to collect social security.

* Finally, I was reminded that the Billary years were a rollercoaster ride with a lot of baggage accumulated along the way. Most of all, I stood firmly against his impeachment and defended him and felt real sorrow for her. But I was still privately furious at him for putting the country and the values of his party and the trust of millions of voters at risk to get his rocks off with a shallow, flirtatious immature woman less than half his age. What an asshole thing to do - what a complete asshole thing to do! Further, it can be fairly argued that Bill's ill-advised fling and his subsequent refusal to fall on his sword (no pun intended) cost Al Gore in 2000 and may well have delivered the disaster of "W" unto us. Florida in 2000 never would have happened. Is that forgivable? Not for me - not yet.

I have not even addressed their policies and the love affair they have with all things corporate in politics.

In conclusion, I decided that am in no mind to reward the Clintons with eight more years. No way. Thanks Bill for reminding me that this is not meant to be a coronation. It's time for real change. I'm willing to go with Obama.

Does anyone else have these feelings of deja vu the more that we see the Hill&Bill show rolling along?

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You captured my feelings precisely!!

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Hillary turn-around scenario: (1) poor resources into Wisconsin, claim that Northern primary state she's supposed to do well in; (2) get endorsement from Edwards - with 26 delegates of his own, that's a mid-sized primary all its own; and (3) show poll results in Texas and Ohio with a double digit lead.

It's a tall order, but don't count the delegates until they're hatched.

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seems appropriate here:

By Kate Michelman

Feb. 08, 2008 | As the red light atop the camera went dark on Monday night, there was still much more I wanted to say to Chris Matthews, much more that I needed to say.

So for the moment, my time on "Hardball" continues here.

Knowing that I had just announced my support for Barack Obama for president after having earlier supported my old friend John Edwards, Matthews had me on his show Monday. His first Hardball to me was one of his typical zingers: "Kate Michelman, how does it feel to have abandoned the cause of your life?"

The simple answer, Chris, is that I haven't -- in fact, my endorsement of Barack, just like my earlier embrace of John Edwards, is all about exalting the causes of my life. Not about repudiating them.

I haven't abandoned my commitment to the women's movement -- and anyone who knows me understands I never will. My endorsement of Barack Obama is actually a celebration of that commitment, and an honest reflection of what I have been fighting for for over 40 years.

The women's movement is about free choice, self-determination and challenging a status quo that fails a lot of Americans, not just women. And it is not about going along. It's about transcending, about having the freedom to follow one's heart, about creating and pursuing new opportunities, and about the American dream being for all Americans.

Chris' gotcha-type question to me and the semi-criticism implicit in it -- that as a woman I have some biological obligation to unreservedly support whatever woman is running -- are exactly the sentiments I faced when I first started working for a woman's right to choose. If women who vote for men are traitors, then are men who vote for women also traitors? What about African-Americans who vote for whites? Or whites who vote for African-Americans?

Laying this guilt trip, this hypocrisy, on women -- saying that those women who don't vote for other women are turncoats -- is tantamount to saying that women who exercise independent thought haven't the right to do that either. Could there be a more anti-feminist contention?

When a presidential candidate's core values are unity, equality, opportunity and creating an atmosphere of respect and harmony, both nationally and internationally, then that candidate's vision aligns with the best hopes and dreams of the women's movement. And that is precisely Barack Obama's vision.

For me, the choice between supporting Barack or Hillary was the choice between supporting someone who I know would be very good, Hillary Clinton, or supporting someone who I know could be truly great. And right now, on those causes that define me and millions of other women, we shouldn't settle -- and I won't settle -- for anything less than "great."

My cause has been to create a society in which women are not judged on the basis of gender or subjected to sexist attitudes or expectations. My cause has been to ensure that every woman, and not any government, has the sole right to make the decision about when and under what circumstances it's best to become a mother. And as a woman who was once a single mother of three little girls and who was forced onto welfare and lived without healthcare and childcare, my cause has been the economic security and dignity of all women and their families.

Matthews' other Hardball, which also deserved more time than the red light gave me, was: "How can you pass, Kate, on the opportunity to support a woman for president when this may be the last chance for that to happen in your lifetime?"

Nothing in life is guaranteed, but I sure do plan on being around a while longer. And just how long does Matthews believe it will be before another supremely qualified woman who currently sits in Congress or occupies a governor's mansion throws her hat into the presidential ring?

In his mind, aren't Gov. Kathleen Sebelius and Gov. Janet Napolitano already at least as qualified as, say, Gov. Mike Huckabee?

It may be news to Chris Matthews, but great women have already arrived on the national stage -- and they are here to stay. They are running state governments, big cities and major corporations. And every day in the armed forces they are defending our families and our country.

Hardballs are just part of the game -- and I am happy to stand in the batter's box and take any of them on. But spitballs aren't part of the game.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/02/08/chris_matthews/

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I agree completely with your feelings. I'm a woman who is avidly for Obama, and it has nothing to do with him being black or being a man. It has to do with him being one hell of a great communicator and a source of inspiration.

If Hillary had his gifts, I'd be all for her, too! It wouldn't be because she was a woman...jeez, aren't we past all that? Sadly, she has little at this point but baggage from her years with Bill (some good, but enough bad to hurt) and a solid but pretty darn wonkish stump speech. Oy, so mundane. [She should've run against Kerry, as she might have had a better chance!]

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We shouldn't forget that Obama is also very likely to win the upcoming Democrats Abroad decision, which I believe also comes out on Feb. 12th.

11 delegates up for grabs there, and from everything I have seen online, Obama should get the lion's share.

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Something I've been wondering about: recent polls seem to show Obama beating McCain by a comfortable margin at the national level. Does anyone know of a breakdown of the numbers on a state-by-state basis? In other words, does his apparent national support translate into an electoral college win? (No ax to grind here, just curious, because I haven't noticed such numbers yet.)

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I have actually seen recent match up polls in purple states and obama crushes him. For example iowa. Remember the iowa match-up polls. Obama beat all the republicans and low and behold clinton lost to mccain. Also, I remember a recent va poll. Obama won by 8 or so points and clinton lost to mccain.

There are polls out there and obama looks much better in swing states than clinton for obvious reasons. The independents and moderate republicans will vote for obama over mccain. 70 percent of the country want us out of iraq yesterday and they can't all be left wing loonies, let alone dems. Alot of indies and republicans want the same thing.

The 2006 census states that 0.8% of Maine is black, so what happened? I thought Pat Buchanan was insinuating that only black folk voted for Obama?

No wonder there was a campaign shakeup.

I think the pimping Chelsea backfired along with Bill's comments before SC.

It does nothing but remind people how the Clinton legacy also included many arguments and mud battles.

Hillary gets handed lopsided defeats in MD, VA, and DC as well. I don't think she should count on PA either.

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Clinton wins a white working class state with more poor people than white wine swilling liberals
and uppity college students.

How do Clininites respond to this narrative?

FROM EARLIER TODAY...

Lets not forget - Obama bandwagoners..

-Voting to confirm Condoleeza Rice for Secretary of State -- after running an explicitly anti-war campaign

-Voting to reauthorize the Patriot Act

-Voting to move most class actions to federal court, thus cutting off access to justice for thousands of people injured by the negligence of doctors and manufacturers

-Watering down environmental legislation that would protect people from leaks of nuclear power plants for the benefit of his 6th largest donor, Exelon Inc

-The fact that many students who support him are under the impression -- that he cultivates -- that he's not taking campaign money from corporations or lobbyist.
look at that list and tell me he's not going to compromise our agenda. He's already done it. Wise up!!

All I want to know is when he's President, and he's reaching across the aisle to Republicans in Congress, who is he reaching across to? The Republicans who supported torture and who stole money from the poor to fund tax cuts for wealthy people?

C'mon people...WISE UP - its only politics as usual, the only difference here is the spin...

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Ok, here goes...

-- Condoleeza Rice: You seem to have an over-inflated sense of just what the Senate's Advise and Consent power means. She was a perfectly qualified candidate, never mind your opinion of her decisions. At the end of the day it's the President's cabinet, he picks who he want's in it, the senate just get's to make sure the person can do the job.

-- The Patriot Act: He voted to reauthorize it only after more civil rights protections were added in. Would he liked to have more? Yes. But in a legislature there is no such thing as a perfect bill. Better to have some stronger protections then none at all.

-- Exelon isn't one of his biggest contributors, their employees are. Exelon is a big employer in Illinois so it stands to reason that many who work there might just like the guy enough to send him a check. Also again, his original bill was much stronger but it wouldn't become law. Better a weaker law then none at all. Again, there is no such thing as a perfect bill, this will remain true until the legislature is 100% partisan progressive Democrats. May that day never come, just look at what happens when partisan Republicans are the majority.

-- Campaign Contributions: You seem to be under the impression that corporations themselves donate to campaigns. They don't. Employees do. When you donate you have to list your ocupation and your employer. When opensecrets breaks down campaign contributions they lump all the employees of a particular business together. They even have a handy notice on the side of the breakdown that says that that is not a contribution from the corporation but from the employees that work there. I'm sure you just missed that part innocently.

On the class action thing, I dunno, never heard that Hillary supporter talking point before, I'll have to look into it.

Next?

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CBS has just called Obama as the new leader in delegates, including Super Delegates.

Obama 1134
Clinton 1131

Source: nytimes.com
Title: Next Up for the Democrats: Civil War

WHAT if a presidential candidate held what she billed as “the largest, most interactive town hall in political history” on national television, and no one noticed?

The untold story in the run-up to Super Tuesday was Hillary Clinton’s elaborate live prime-time special the night before the vote. Presiding from a studio in New York, the candidate took questions from audiences in 21 other cities. She had plugged the event four days earlier in the last gasp of her debate with Barack Obama and paid a small fortune for it: an hour of time on the Hallmark Channel plus satellite TV hookups for the assemblies of supporters stretching from coast to coast.

But I’m glad I watched every minute, right up until Mrs. Clinton was abruptly cut off in midsentence so Hallmark could resume its previously scheduled programming (a movie promising “A Season for Miracles,” aptly enough). However boring, this show was a dramatic encapsulation of how a once-invincible candidate ended up in a dead heat, crippled by poll-tested corporate packaging that markets her as a synthetic product leeched of most human qualities. What’s more, it offered a naked preview of how nastily the Clintons will fight, whatever the collateral damage to the Democratic Party, in the endgame to come.

For a campaign that began with tightly monitored Web “chats” and then planted questions at its earlier town-hall meetings, a Bush-style pseudo-event like the Hallmark special is nothing new, of course. What’s remarkable is that instead of learning from these mistakes, Mrs. Clinton’s handlers keep doubling down.

Less than two weeks ago she was airlifted into her own, less effective version of “Mission Accomplished.” Instead of declaring faux victory in Iraq, she starred in a made-for-television rally declaring faux victory in a Florida primary that was held in defiance of party rules, involved no campaigning and awarded no delegates. As Andrea Mitchell of NBC News said, it was “the Potemkin village of victory celebrations.”

The Hallmark show, enacted on an anachronistic studio set that looked like a deliberate throwback to the good old days of 1992, was equally desperate. If the point was to generate donations or excitement, the effect was the reverse. A campaign operative, speaking on MSNBC, claimed that 250,000 viewers had seen an online incarnation of the event in addition to “who knows how many” Hallmark channel viewers. Who knows, indeed? What we do know is that by then the “Yes We Can” Obama video fronted by the hip-hop vocalist will.i.am of the Black Eyed Peas had been averaging roughly a million YouTube views a day. (Cost to the Obama campaign: zero.)

Two days after her town-hall extravaganza, Mrs. Clinton revealed the $5 million loan she had made to her own campaign to survive a month in which the Obama operation had raised $32 million to her $13.5 million. That poignant confession led to a spike in contributions that Mr. Obama also topped. Though Tuesday was largely a draw in popular votes and delegates, every other indicator, from the candidates’ real and virtual crowds to hard cash, points to a steadily widening Obama-Clinton gap. The Clinton campaign might be an imploding Potemkin village itself were it not for the fungible profits from Bill Clinton’s murky post-presidency business deals. (The Clintons, unlike Mr. Obama, have not released their income-tax returns.)

The campaign’s other most potent form of currency remains its thick deck of race cards. This was all too apparent in the Hallmark show. In its carefully calibrated cross section of geographically and demographically diverse cast members — young, old, one gay man, one vet, two union members — African-Americans were reduced to also-rans. One black woman, the former TV correspondent Carole Simpson, was given the servile role of the meeting’s nominal moderator, Ed McMahon to Mrs. Clinton’s top banana. Scattered black faces could be seen in the audience. But in the entire televised hour, there was not a single African-American questioner, whether to toss a softball or ask about the Clintons’ own recent misadventures in racial politics.

The Clinton camp does not leave such matters to chance. This decision was a cold, political cost-benefit calculus. In October, seven months after the two candidates’ dueling church perorations in Selma, USA Today found Hillary Clinton leading Mr. Obama among African-American Democrats by a margin of 62 percent to 34 percent. But once black voters met Mr. Obama and started to gravitate toward him, Bill Clinton and the campaign’s other surrogates stopped caring about what African-Americans thought. In an effort to scare off white voters, Mr. Obama was ghettoized as a cocaine user (by the chief Clinton strategist, Mark Penn, among others), “the black candidate” (as Clinton strategists told the Associated Press) and Jesse Jackson redux (by Mr. Clinton himself).

The result? Black America has largely deserted the Clintons. In her California primary victory, Mrs. Clinton drew only 19 percent of the black vote. The campaign saw this coming and so saw no percentage in bestowing precious minutes of prime-time television on African-American queries.

That time went instead to the Hispanic population that was still in play in Super Tuesday’s voting in the West. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa of Los Angeles had a cameo, and one of the satellite meetings was held in the National Hispanic Cultural Center in Albuquerque. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s smart politics, especially since Mr. Obama has been behind the curve in wooing this constituency.

But the wholesale substitution of Hispanics for blacks on the Hallmark show is tainted by a creepy racial back story. Last month a Hispanic pollster employed by the Clinton campaign pitted the two groups against each other by telling The New Yorker that Hispanic voters have “not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates.” Mrs. Clinton then seconded the motion by telling Tim Russert in a debate that her pollster was “making a historical statement.”

It wasn’t an accurate statement, historical or otherwise. It was a lie, and a bigoted lie at that, given that it branded Hispanics, a group as heterogeneous as any other, as monolithic racists. As the columnist Gregory Rodriguez pointed out in The Los Angeles Times, all three black members of Congress in that city won in heavily Latino districts; black mayors as various as David Dinkins in New York in the 1980s and Ron Kirk in Dallas in the 1990s received more than 70 percent of the Hispanic vote. The real point of the Clinton campaign’s decision to sow misinformation and racial division, Mr. Rodriguez concluded, was to “undermine one of Obama’s central selling points, that he can build bridges and unite Americans of all types.”

If that was the intent, it didn’t work. Mrs. Clinton did pile up her expected large margin among Latino voters in California. But her tight grip on that electorate is loosening. Mr. Obama, who captured only 26 percent of Hispanic voters in Nevada last month, did better than that in every state on Tuesday, reaching 41 percent in Arizona and 53 percent in Connecticut. Meanwhile, the Clinton campaign’s attempt to drive white voters away from Mr. Obama by playing the race card has backfired. His white vote tally rises every week. Though Mrs. Clinton won California by almost 10 percentage points, among whites she beat Mr. Obama by only 3 points.

The question now is how much more racial friction the Clinton campaign will gin up if its Hispanic support starts to erode in Texas, whose March 4 vote it sees as its latest firewall. Clearly it will stop at little. That’s why you now hear Clinton operatives talk ever more brazenly about trying to reverse party rulings so that they can hijack 366 ghost delegates from Florida and the other rogue primary, Michigan, where Mr. Obama wasn’t even on the ballot. So much for Mrs. Clinton’s assurance on New Hampshire Public Radio last fall that it didn’t matter if she alone kept her name on the Michigan ballot because the vote “is not going to count for anything.”

Last month, two eminent African-American historians who have served in government, Mary Frances Berry (in the Carter and Clinton years) and Roger Wilkins (in the Johnson administration), wrote Howard Dean, the Democrats’ chairman, to warn him of the perils of that credentials fight. Last week, Mr. Dean became sufficiently alarmed to propose brokering an “arrangement” if a clear-cut victory by one candidate hasn’t rendered the issue moot by the spring. But does anyone seriously believe that Howard Dean can deter a Clinton combine so ruthless that it risked shredding three decades of mutual affection with black America to win a primary?

A race-tinged brawl at the convention, some nine weeks before Election Day, will not be a Hallmark moment. As Mr. Wilkins reiterated to me last week, it will be a flashback to the Democratic civil war of 1968, a suicide for the party no matter which victor ends up holding the rancid spoils.

Nice job of cutting and pasting and entire copyrighted newspaper article into the comments section of someone else's blog. Your forum handle seems well chosen.

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This week is really bad for the Clinton campaign. Obama is winning by such large margins that he is getting a lot more delegates than anyone thought he would- and there is no reason to expect that this Tues will be any different.
This is going to be very hard for Hillary to make up.

By my very rough calculations, Hillary will need to win OPT by a good 20pts a piece plus win expected Hillary states like KY, IN, WV AND score an upset or 2 to make up the ground that she is likely to lose this month.
The problem is that most of the rest of the states favor Obama or are a toss-ups (which means a likely delegate split) and the only states with more than 70 delegates are IN & NC.

When you think about it - Hillary hasn't 'won' anything since this started. At best she has pulled a draw in the contests that she 'won' (I consider Feb5 as one contest) but when he wins, he wins.
I she has been dying a slow death since IA and I am afraid Feb5 was her death rattle.

I know we're only talking 24 delegates here but Clinton really needs to start holding Obama to smaller margins in these sacrifice states. If not, she'll have to win all her own strong states with blowouts too to stay in the race. I just saw in the Washington Post that Solis-Doyle is stepping down as her campaign manager and someone named Maggie Williams is taking over, so they may be thinking the same thing I'm thinking.

Just curious:

Did Bill Richardson watch the Pro Bowl with anyone today?

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February is

"a month that's shaping up as a very dark one indeed for Hillary,"

with electoral outcomes that are

"signaling a dark stretch ahead for the Hillary Camp."

I find this language striking -- it reminds me of the scene in the movie Malcolm X., where the Black Muslim shows Malcolm the definition of the word "Black" in the dictionary. One of them reads through the negative associations, and a light bulb is supposed to go off in all our heads.

It also reminds me of the days when people would, quite self righteously, defend their use of the word "he" when ostensibly discussing an individual generic person. The common usage of "he or she" today is one of feminism's little victories.

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Also remember that some of the "caucuses" aren't the "gather in the room and persuade each other" type that we got used to hearing about ad infinitum leading up to Iowa. In Minnesota, for example, there is binding secret balloting for the Pres. preference, open to anyone who stops in. You don't have to stick around for the platform discussion and other party business, and at least in my precinct few did. It was, for a