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Obama Response Ad: "In A Dangerous World, It's Judgment That Matters"
Obama already has a brutal ad set to run in Texas responding to Hillary's red phone ad -- it features kids tucked away in bed and the red phone ringing at 3 A.M., as hers does, but concludes:
"When that call gets answered, shouldn't the president be the one -- the only one -- who had judgment and courage to oppose the Iraq War from the start?"
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THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
February 29, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hm, somewhat corny, but only insofar as her ad was corny, so the rejoinder is necessarily burdened with the same excesses. Otherwise, I would say that this is a very effective ad. If I were undecided (which I am not) it would help move me over into the Obama column.
February 29, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely. I wish he hadn't used the same fearmongering frame to make his point but to his credit that makes the response very very effective. Much more substantial than the Clinton one.
February 29, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
It isn't fearmongering like Hillary's was, it is a parody, the focus isn't vote for me or your children die, it is on Hillary's bullshit claims.
I laughed, it was a good response.
February 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, Obama's ad definitely makes a good rebuttal. Very impressed with the speed of Obama's response.
Again, Obama effortlessly "akidos" attacks as I've seen so many times before. (BarAkido?) It comes from his personal demeanor and his camapign reflects that. As he's fond of saying about swift boaters: lies will be believed if repeated enough, but people sometimes forget, that also works for the truth.
The Pakistan and experience issues were perhaps the first time he akido'd Hillary's attacks and politely allowed her to destroy her own credibility and character. It's been the same way with racial and other such attacks.
With these speedy responses and his rather graceful but very effective style he'll do great against McCain and the swifties. McCain and surrogates are guaranteed to blow their tops and say things they'll regret. McCain will face the same problems as Hillary: their war and economic records aren't good, and "experience" is reading as "status quo" and that's also a loser. That leaves... nasty attacks. The country is sick of that too, and it'll backfire heavily.
March 1, 2008 5:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hmm, if I was already a supporter, it would encourage me.
February 29, 2008 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure I like buying into the "children are sleeping and some crazy shit is happening" meme, but this is an effective response to Hillary's ad.
February 29, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, that's the funny part. Did you not see Hillary's 'scary' ad?
Jeez.
February 29, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I did see that ad, which is why I reference it in my original post.
I mean that I'm not sure I like him using the same "phone ringing at 3 AM" meme.
February 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your instincts are correct, shermanfirefly.
February 29, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. It's funny, but I'm not sure it's a good strategy. Many people might not even know which ad came first.
February 29, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
If they're going to run this ad, they should actually hold it a day to let it run in Texas and get coverage on the local evening news. Then you air it the next day, so that it's clear that the ad is a response to Hillary instead of a stand-alone ad.
In the meantime, though, it's a decent tactic (as someone has said below) to release the ad on the internet so that the cable shows show both ads instead of only Hillary's.
February 29, 2008 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see your point shermanfirefly.
OTOH, even if folks are uncertain which ad came first, I think the difference in the tone and tenor of the ads shows the stark contrast between Hillary and Obama's approach to crisis.
Hillary leaves us with a sense of dread and frightening prospect of the fears out there in the world and that we are not safe.
Obama on the other hand comes across as reassuring that despite there being problems he is in command and willing to do whatever is necessary to protect us and his track record on judgment gives us a sense of security.
Security we do not get with Hillary's ad because the tone is meant to be fear mongering and that is the emotions you are left with after watching it...dread, despair and fear ...rattling outside the windows
with Obama it is safe, sound and secure...in his hands...
haha..like All State...lol lol
February 29, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its more so that the news stations pick it up and replay it. They will put it in the context of being a response ad. A lot of advertising like this is not really even meant to be used as you normally would a tv ad. It's to get the pundits and nightly news people to show the response video after they have shown and commented on the original one.
February 29, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you're right, then that's a brilliant use of this ad.
Greg, do you know if this ad will actually be running in Texas, or is this just a get-free-media ad?
February 29, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does it matter whether the viewer knows which came first?
Think about it for a second.
Ass kicked coming and going
Plus he made all Friday evening network newscasts
No swiftboating Barack Obama folks. Floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee
February 29, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
At least it he didn't let the goddam thing ring six times like Hillary did.
February 29, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, But you gotta admit, her ad got your attention (in the most annoying way possible), even if you weren't in the same room as the TV.
The "red phone" has been updated, BTW, and now has an MP3 ringtone of "Yakkety Sax".
March 1, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Brilliant. I have no idea how they get these done so quickly (and so professionally). The only thing I would have changed is to have began it as a more clear response to Clinton (i.e., "Senator Clinton tells us that there's a phone ringing..."). But what do I know? Great ad.
February 29, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
But But But...Obama's not tough enough to run a good campaign!
February 29, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
nice to see an immediate fight back. i like it substantively as well.
February 29, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
Perfect turnaround. I actually found it very Presidential, even with the snark factor tearing into her silliness.
February 29, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a question: What if Kerry had responded within 12 hours with an ad rebutting the swift boat piece of crap? I don't know if it would have changed the result in the end, but at least we wouldn't have had to see that stupid ad playing over and over without a rebuttal.
I'm not going to critique the ad, I'm just thrilled they responded so quickly. It might even be early enough to make tonight's news.
February 29, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
He'd be President and we'd be nearly out of Iraq.
February 29, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
One can only dream. Any candidate who fails to have a quick response team ready to act immediately, within the same news cycle, doesn't deserve to be in the race. This cost Dukakis against Bush I, Kerry against Bush II, and probably Gore. It's a big reason for the success of Clinton against Bush I. Don't let anb attack get traction, and don't let a wound fester without hitting back fast and harder than your opponent.
February 29, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
With all due respect, acf_ma, in 2004 the blogosphere wasn't quite as heavily read as it is now. The news didn't travel as shockingly fast as it does now, only 4 years later.
That's my opinion, anyway. But then, I'm 43, so maybe it's just that I wasn't as cool 4 years ago as I am now, lol...
February 29, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. I think Kerry has learned from his mistake and that is helping Obama to know what he needs to do. Fool me once...
I am making sense of the '04 election in a Karmic way. Kerry had to lose so we could have Obama - who IMO will be a better Pres. Kerry=Clinton, good but not great. If Kerry had won, there would be no opening for Obama. The price of course was 4 more horrid years of Bush so Obama better be worth it.
March 1, 2008 5:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Regardless of whether either are effective ads, I'm freakily impressed that Obama's campaign can respond so fast.
Maybe Mark Penn really is working for Obama.
February 29, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that's what the chattering class will take from this. That should kill the meme Obama is not ready to fight back against Republican attacks.
Edwards endorsement anyone ? LOL
February 29, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not a big fan of the concept of the ad but I liked the modifications that kept it out from being blatant fear-mongering. Notice the narrator mentioned "Safe and Asleep," and it didn't go into specifics about an amorphous threat. After that it just listed policy accomplishments which definitely helps Barack's case. I guess I wish the ad wasn't necessary to run but it is an effective counter nonetheless.
February 29, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ouch.
February 29, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
YES! Game, set, match. That absolutely proves Obama is not soft and can fight back firmly and promptly but respectfully. While Hillary peddles fear, Obama peddles truth.
Hillary I think is intent on ruining any chance she had to be VEEP or to run again as a Democrat in 2012 in the event McCain wins. This morning there was still a strong chance I would vote for her in the general election if she got the nomination. But after her fear mongering ad today, I know with certainty that I will never vote for a Clinton again.
February 29, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I completely agree -- this fear mongering is what pushed me away from Hillary in the first place. If Hillary wins I'm voting for Nader.
March 1, 2008 2:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
I like it. It's harsh but we can't get complacent!
February 29, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Plus he gets to the damn phone more quickly.
February 29, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Takes all the Clinton effort and bounces it back on them with greater force. Punctures the absurdity of her ad. Checkmate. Klan Klinton must be getting demoralized....
February 29, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's media folks are damn good. They are consistently able to get out effective response ads, that stay classy, within the same news cycle as the original attack. And the responses are considerably more powerful.
Certainly not going to get caught slipping on the deck of a swiftboat.
February 29, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am impressed on a more-than-daily basis by the impeccably effective and timely communications efforts of the Obama campaign.
This guy is GOOD.
February 29, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Which one of these candidates is going to investigate why stock footage of sleeping children is readily available?
I mean who, other than these two campaigns apparently, needs stock footage of sleeping children?
February 29, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sleeping children are used in a variety of ads, from home security to children's medicine.
I'm sure there are companies that can provide stock footage for a fee, just like in print advertising.
February 29, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please tell me you're joking. Stock footage is available for everything under the sun.
They're used for GASP things called commercials and PSAs and industrial videos...
February 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
well M@
all those baby aspirin and baby diaper commercials of course
February 29, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Barack's ad is positive; Penn says so.
February 29, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Risk my ass. He was in a safe district in Illinois in the same state where Dick Durbin was opposing the war. Opposing the war was not a risk for him at all.
February 29, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton was a standing Senator who won by 73%.
How is she at risk?
Even she admits now she would take the vote back. She made a bad decision. It just took her too long to admit it. (and she's never apologized for it)
February 29, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
This does not change the fact that Senator Clinton lacked either the competence or the courage to stand up to the White House.
February 29, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I liked that they used the first few seconds of the Clinton ad. It's a clever tactic, because a lot of folks who liked the original ad will start watching it again, only to be surprised by the different direction it goes in after the fist few seconds.
February 29, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
confused it's set to run but is it going to run?
February 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Opposing the war was not a risk for him at all."
It seems that Hillary put us all to risk when she failed to read the NIE
February 29, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
A brutal response? Not hardly! If you don't see the Clinton ad first, Obama's ad is a strange non sequitur.
Good luck with that, Barack!
February 29, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I didn't watch the Clinton ad, and thought this ad stands very well on it's own.
It hints at Hillary's Iraq War weakness, but will play just as well against McCain. And the core message isn't brutal; it's about Obama's decision-making with regard to the War, and how they apply to the decisions a President has to make.
February 29, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg Sargent used the word brutal in his OP.
February 29, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, if you're not aware of the Hillary ad (or think Obama's came first), he comes off sounding like the fear monger. I'm not sure if the Obama camp really appreciates how many ignorant people there are out there. (Perhaps I'm overestimating it, but I'm not sure that's possible.)
February 29, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love how fast Obama is responding to this bull. Looks like Repub jackasses wont have days of unanswered attacks to count on like in recent history.
February 29, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good rapid response. Me likey.
February 29, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I actually agree with gasket. The original ad is so stupid and manipulative, and if you haven't seen it, this one looks like it's using the same tactics. (BAD PEOPLE ARE CALLING THE PRESIDENT BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO EAT YOUR BABIES.)
Still, ouch.
February 29, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Scare ad? What are you guys "scared of"? Obama as this thing wrapped up, right? So "what" if Hillary is better qualified to be commander-in-chief, as evidenced by the endorsements of 30 generals and admirals.
We want Obama who is gonna unify us all . . . by doing exactly what? Oh, I forgot - daily rallies in the Senate Chamber - Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham chanting: "Yes, we can"!
February 29, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
More qualified, eh? Why?
Or how about this, I'll lift a question asked by Slate. What international crisis can you point to in which Clinton has had to respond that makes you belive she is ready to be Commander-in-Chief?
February 29, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
The question by Slate's John Dickerson is already getting some traction. I read about it on Matthew Yglesias's blog. Here's what he linked to:
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/02/pregnant_pause.html
excerpt reporting on Clinton campaign conference call:
"Responding to the release of HRC's new TX TV ad, which asserts in no subtle terms that only she has the experience to deal with a major world crisis, and, relatedly, to keep your children safe, Slate's John Dickerson asked the obvious question:
"What foreign policy moment would you point to in Hillary's career where she's been tested by crisis?" he said.
Silence on the call."
I just can't believe Penn and Wolfson didn't anticipate the question and have an answer ready. It shows how truly incompetent these guys really are.
February 29, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hehe, I actually laughed out loud when I listened to that call.
And my point isn't that Obama has had to make a decision in a crisis, I can't recall anytime he has had to do that. My point is Clinton hasn't either that I recall and from what I've learned about how Obama approaches problems (a psuedo cost-benefit approach with some behaviorial economics thrown in) and his cool, calm demeanor, I think he would do fine under such pressure. But that's my opinion. people who support Clinton or even those that work for her can't seem to answer that without first being stumped.
February 29, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
(Though my guess is this ad is more for the news shows and blogs that covered Hillary's ads... in which case, it works perfectly.)
February 29, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
The most important use of the Obama ad will be that it forces the network and cable news shows to show both ads, not just Clinton's alone. Clinton's campaign doesn't get a free airing of their ad, as they might have hoped when these ads get played over the weekend.
There was a nice touch at the end of the Obama ad pointing out the cooperation with Richard Lugar, the Republican senator in the adjacent state of Indiana. Obama is appealing to Republican cross-overs in Ohio, as well as in Texas.
February 29, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
AHHHH, great point Bronx
Now, it makes even more sense. Kudos to Barack for a job well done.
February 29, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Precisely! This keeps Hillary from having the national-security-experience-talking-point stage all to herself this weekend. As many upthread (and elsewhere) have noted, Obama's crew really seems to be the most refreshingly nimble and competent we've seen in a very long time.
February 29, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone know how many retired Generals, Admirals, etc., have endorsed Obama, and who? Because I'm telling you, this national security thing is a problem for him. Fear is a very powerful emotion. It is used everyday to sell everything from supporting wars to selling pimple cream. We shouldn't underestimate it. It needs to be addressed not ignored.
Because dammit, it IS a dangerous world. And *Someone* will be answering the (figurative) phone. And I personally would like them to be able to conference in someone who knows what the hell to do. Obama needs to surround himself with a bunch of retired military guys and I mean right quick.
And does everyone agree that the Veep needs military experience?
February 29, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Senator Obama's Foreign Policy team includes President Clinton's Secretary of the Navy and first National Security Advisor, as well as a former Major General of the Air Force.
Obama's Inner Circle
February 29, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about Senator Jim Webb of Virginia?
February 29, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, I've kept my mouth shut up to now as others have questioned your comments on links you introduce, and I don't want to seem to pile on now. But your characterization of Obama's ad -- and by extension the candidate himself or his intention -- as "brutal" really goes way too far for me.
To make sure I was being objective, I went to good ol' Merriam Webster online:
BRUTAL -
1archaic : typical of beasts : animal
2: befitting a brute: as a: grossly ruthless or unfeeling b: cruel, cold-blooded c: harsh, severe d: unpleasantly accurate and incisive e: very bad or unpleasant
Is that what you meant to say? I hope you're not trying to plant unsupported doubts in people's minds. If so, please come out with rational arguments rather than one-word slurs like that.
February 29, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
By "brutal," I think he means, in netspeak:
PWNED.
February 29, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
My reading is that Greg meant this spot forcefully shut down Senator Clinton's ad, not that the ad in itself is cold blooded or cruel.
Brutal as in unpleasantly accurate and incisive.
February 29, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Unpleasantly"?
March 1, 2008 12:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you are a member of the Clinton Campaign, this ad would certainly be unpleasant, and would probably seem "brutal" too.
March 1, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think he meant precisely that the ad was "unpleasantly accurate and incisive." At least that's what I took away when I first read the post.
February 29, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Next Obama ad should be:
Phone rings at 3.00AM. Hillary answers it, and listens, then says: Let me get back to you with a response after I contact George W. Bush to find out what he wants me to do.
February 29, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, no, no. It's Hillary saying, "Let me get back to you after I ask Mark Penn to take a poll and then tell me what to do!"
March 1, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
It would have been even better if he had after the phone is answered we hear Hillary yelling "WHY DO YOU ALWAYS CALL ME FIRST!!!!"
February 29, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
"It would have been even better if he had after the phone is answered we hear Hillary yelling "WHY DO YOU ALWAYS CALL ME FIRST!!!!"
You win, bvd! LOL!
February 29, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
rotfl
This would make a great SNL skit...with that exact line!
they should add...after why call me first...
what do you want me to do open up the heavens and have celestial choirs sing?
February 29, 2008 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I absolutely know why Hillary is losing this thing. I'm not going to talk about it now, for fear that her minions check boards like this, but I know what they're doing wrong and I know how they could fix it. It's so frikking obvious.
She is blowing it, and in such an incredibly stupid way. She's doomed.
I'll post about it after March 4th.
February 29, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do too.
March 1, 2008 12:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Um, so do I. But I'm not telling, natch.
March 1, 2008 1:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
I note the following result from the FoxNews/Opinion Dynamics poll published today (the latest poll posted on this site under February): Obama behind 8 points in OH; ahead 3 points in TX.
Can anyone tell me if Fox News polling is as crappy as everything else about Fox News? And while your at, if you know, can you tell me which polls are most credible: Rasmussen, Zogby, SurveyUSA? Some other? None of the above? Rasmussen and Zogby are showing OH to be much closer than Fox. They pretty much agree with Fox on TX.
Humorous note: The Clinton campaign has stated that Obama must have a clean sweep on Tuesday. A less than perfect outcome will signal that the Democrats are having buyers remorse and want the race to continue. They really and truly believe they're talking to idiots.
February 29, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a link to SurveyUSA's pollster report card:
http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2008/02/06/2008-pollster-report-card-through-super-tuesday-includes-all-pollsters/
February 29, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Turns out Howie Kurtz over at WaPo had the details on the origin of Hillary's "3 AM phone call" ad this morning:
it's not "plagiarized," it's just recycled. The guy who conceived it is the same guy who conceived the same concept for Walter Mondale 24 years ago.
Howie said:
But perhaps its closest cousin is the 1984 "red phone" ad that Walter Mondale ran against his primary opponent Gary Hart: "The most awesome, powerful responsibility in the world lies in the hand that picks up this phone. The idea of an unsure, unsteady, untested hand is something to really think about." That ad was made by media adviser Roy Spence, who now works for the Clinton campaign.
Check it out:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/29/clinton_as_commanderinchief_1.html
February 29, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Plagerism" is an academic offense, the act of passing off the work of another as your own. This isn't that.
Copyright infringement is a tort against the owner of a copyright in a protectable work. Assuming this is protectable and she owns the copyright--both dubious assumptions--this comes under the category of "fair use."
Plus, she'd look pretty damn stupid making that claim considering its been done by McCain and Mondale before her, now, wouldn't she?
February 29, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
So does the Obama campaign start running these right away? Dueling red phone ads??
February 29, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's ad used the first 5 seconds or so from Hillary's ad. What are the "intellectual property" implications here? Is this plagiarism? Anyone?
February 29, 2008 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
no sutzu ..it ain't plagarism...it is sampling!!
February 29, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah so! Sample on!
February 29, 2008 7:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
On second thought, I doubt if the Clinton camp will want to pursue the intellectual property angle for the simple reason that they would not want to draw any more attention to Obama's very deft parry.
February 29, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, he stole it. I hope she sues him. It will just be more pettiness from the Clinton campaign.
Actually, CNN reports the SAME GUY did both ads. Some frikkin' unprincipled, money-grubbing creep if true, eh?
February 29, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's my understanding that the Clinton ad used stock footage of children sleeping at night. Stock footage providers charge a fee, and anyone can use the footage.
That includes Obama, who apparently also paid the fee so that he could use the same footage.
It looks to me like it probably came from some home security company commercial.
February 29, 2008 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
In ratings I believe Survey ranks high, Rasmussen okay, Zogby erratic often crappy. I think the Fox poll on OH is an outlier given that others have it in the 2-5 pt range of difference.
February 29, 2008 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone else impressed with the obama response time recently?
February 29, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's almost eerie, actually...in a good way!
February 29, 2008 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Obama's ad used the first 5 seconds or so from Hillary's ad. What are the "intellectual property" implications here? Is this plagiarism? Anyone?"
Probably falls under free speech provisions, ie. intellectual criticism, satire, etc.
Plagiarism is an academic problem, doesn't apply to political campaigns (despite Hillary's wish).
Copyright is only for certain content (Hillary probably bought the original video from a stock video source).
If Obama's camp bought the same video stock, then he has usage rights.
February 29, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I dare the Clinton campaign to call "plagiarism".
March 1, 2008 1:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dang. Quick response. Typical of this very effective campaign.
Kerry would've responded about a week later and then would've apologized for something.
February 29, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm happy to see that the money I've been contributing to Obama all year is being used so wisely. I've never seen such a smoothly-run, fast, and intelligent campaign. Ever.
If Obama and his advisors can run our country anywhere near as well as they run his campaign, well...
...yes we can.
February 29, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I got that same blush of pride that "My dollars paid for that!"
March 1, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Clinton Camp stole the image of Sleeping Children from Eve and Adam!
February 29, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's 3:00 am; a phone is ringing in the White House. It's Ahmed Chalabi with urgent information about Iran. He reaches an intern. The intern says "It's nobody baby", and hangs up.
It's 3:30 am; a phone is ringing in the White House. It's Ahmed Chalabi again with urgent information about Iran. This time he gets through to President Hillary Clinton.
It's 4:00 am; a phone is ringing in the Pentagon; it's Hillary Clinton authorizing CENTCOM to nuke Tehran.
It's 4:30 am; a phone is ringing in the White House. It's CENTCOM with the message "Mission accomplished, Madame President."
It's 5:00 am; a phone is ringing in the White House. It's the CIA with the information that the 3:30 call was a crank call.
It's 5:30 am; a phone is ringing at the Washington Post. It's Mark Penn saying that Clinton only meant to authorize nuking Tehran, but didn't intend for CENTCOM to actually nuke Tehran. He adds, "Iran doesn't count; it's a red state."
It's 6:00 am; a phone is ringing at the Obama household. It's Hillary Clinton with the message "I wish you had won.".
It's 7:00 am; a phone is ringing at the Obama household. It's America. America says, "Ww wish you had won too!"
February 29, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
brilliant.
February 29, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
While Hillary slept Obama's been working on non-proliferation. Kills two birds with one stone, stomps her feramongering ad and the theme she's been hitting that he has no accomplishments in the senate.
February 29, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Man but it's easy for Obama to make Hillary look small and petty.
February 29, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
SNAP!
February 29, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Brilliant! Way effective/powerful reframe...The obama team is rewriting history about what it means to run an effective campaign.
February 29, 2008 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg's been so busy hauling out the kitchen sink for Mrs. Bill that he's neglected to post several late polls.
Perhaps this is why Hillary flails Greg? Ya think?? Maybe??? Huh????
February 29, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
OOOPS..that would be ARG Texas
The state where the phones are ringing off the hook ..at Obama HQ
February 29, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is a one-trick pony. He keeps talking about the past, when he stated an opinion, when he didn't have the reponsibility of the consequences if her was wrong. It's easy being a Monday morning quarterback. Hillary based her vote on the intelligence information she was given and on the promise by the Bush administration that they would send the inspectors back in to finish the job. It was promised that war was a very last resort. Obama continues to distort this point. He has said he didn't know how he would vote if he had been in the senate, yet he wants to make this as a basis for his presidency. He is blaming a fellow democrat for the atrocious actions of the Bush adminstration. If, God forbid, he ends up in the White House, I hope they give him just as much slack as he has given Hillary on this. And he criticizes her vote on the Iran deal. At least she showed up! Obama wasn't even there! And if he did, he would have probably voted a cowardly vote of "present" like he did so many times in the Illinois Senate. He is the one who will say anything to get elected. And he is not making Hillary look small and petty to the people who know her. He is making himself look like an idiot. He is like a child on the schoolyard hurling taunts. I am voting for McCain if this clown gets the nomination, and changing party affiliation. If we nominate him we will just as stupid as the Republicans were when they nominated Bush. Same old, same old.
February 29, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
There are so many things wrong with this, I don't know where to begin.
February 29, 2008 9:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here, let me help you out: For starters, Obama's never going to end up in the WH. So worrying about it is unnecessary.
March 1, 2008 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
There are so many things wrong with this, I don't know where to begin.
February 29, 2008 9:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Redux, I think you'll find this path will satisfy almost everyone. We'll bid you a fond farewell, they'll welcome you with open arms.
February 29, 2008 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
BushMcCain Recession
5 BushMcCain Wars..5 defeats
1. Iraq
2. Afghanistan
3. Somalia
4. Lebanon
5. Global War on Terror
and that's not counting the real winner of the BushMcCain Iraq War - IraN
Finally we have a candidate who's able to call these war losers out for what they are
February 29, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Somebody suggested that opposing the war was not a risk for Obama because he was in a safe seat.
I don't think that's right. Obama's had national political ambitions for some time -- I don't think, even back then, he was thinking that he would be a Senator forever. Even if he opposed the war, he could have done it quietly and covered his ass in a future election bid. Instead, he made a major speech condemning it, when the political and national mood was very much against him, apparently because he believed that opposing the war was important. That's political courage.
February 29, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, Redux, for giving me an idea.
I'm going to start copying posts like yours, and pasting them into a word doc.
And then I'm going to search through my numerous "favorite" websites in order to find every relevant news clip in rebuttal.
I will then laboriously copy and paste every link into my word doc, for the benefit of folks like you who apparently don't have access to the same news that I see on a daily basis.
Finally, I'm going to save every word doc under its respective title (i.e., "stance on Iraq", "most recent polls", etc.) and then call it up on demand whenever I see a post like yours. I will then copy and paste my prepared doc into the comment section and let you link away, if you are so inclined.
Then again...better yet: www.barackobama.com
It's already there.
February 29, 2008 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Redux,
You seem to know Hillary Clinton. Can you tell me why her campaign seems to be so terribly bad? I'm serious about this. She still has Bill. And a big chunk of his advisors. And he was nominated and elected twice. I'm glad Obama is winning and I give him a lot of credit for that, but Hillary is doing an awful lot of losing. And I think it is driving her supporters nuts.
She's not just losing primaries, she's getting clobbered. She's not just losing caucuses, she's getting destroyed. She's not getting out the vote. She's not getting enough endorsements. Hell, she's not holding on to the endorsements she has. What on earth is she paying her advisors for?
And can you tell me why they didn't have the Texas delegate situation figured out, as late as Monday? Hasn't it been in place for DECADES? Didn't her husband win the nomination twice with roughly those same rules in place?
She deserves better, but it's not Obama's fault. He and his campaign are doing their jobs.
Finally, why on earth would you vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination? Isn't that being at least as petty as you say Obama is being? If you really think that McCain is so much better than Obama that you'd rather have a Republican White House than a Democrat White House? What about the Department of Justice? The Supreme Court? Our troops in Iraq?
Are you so angry at Obama that you'd give them to the same people that have had them for most of the last decade? Have you not seen these Republicans blatantly shredding documents, telling government officials to not respond to subpoenas, and then having DOJ refuse to enforce them? Torturing people? Wandering from country to country engaging in conflicts that cost blood and treasure that we cannot spare?
Redux, listen. They don't even think you have the right to know who visits the White House. You can't want them to remain in control.
You can't be *that* mad.
Don't give Obama that much power over you.
Fight for your candidate. Fight hard. Be pissed off. But vote Democrat.
February 29, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chrislrob, I love you.
February 29, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish I'd had the class to say what you said.
February 29, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Make that last line the title of your reader post.
Seriously, people need to read that.
February 29, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
John McCain never met a war he didn't like and even now he's looking for others to fight
The man is a menace. Time for Hillary to step aside so that Obama can have a clear shot.
February 29, 2008 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your point would have been perfectly valid without lying about your age. We can see your picture. You're obviously not yet over the hill. Try again.
February 29, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chrislrob,
That post is important and timely, and it deserves a larger audience. Please put it in a reader blog post (though I'd suggest whittling it down a bit for quick impact)
February 29, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mike,
Just a suggestion: you may find that the folks here are a little less tolerent of your virulently, anti-Obama spew than your fellow Hilbots over at MyDD.
If you would like to have a substantive discussion, I am sure everyone will welcome you. But if you want to throw flames, you may get some back.
February 29, 2008 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Upper Left Corner,
Just a suggestion: If you think Mike's comments were out of line, you are too sensitive. (And he is right on the money.)
Perhaps if hearing things that are not positive about Obama are not to your liking, you should turn off your computer and just read his campaign literature (I get a new Obama mail piece EVERY DAY).
Just a slightly rude way of saying that your suggestion of "we like Obama here...go post on a different site" is a little...what is the word I am looking for...freepish?
February 29, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
His ad sums up why I'm voting for Obama in a nutshell. Clinton had a chance to make the right decision. Many, many Democrats saw through Bush's lies and voted against the authorization. Too many others chose not to. Chose to see the risk in the Iraq vote being a political risk. A risk of appearing soft. The real risk was being WRONG and destroying hundreds of thousands of lives and billions of dollars. Destroying our volunteer military and bankrupting our future.
Yah that's who I want answering the phone.
February 29, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Barack Obama (2/29/08):
Text for Barack Obama's real-threat-of-terrorism-is-in-Afghanistan ad (2/29/08):
Key terrorism terms/scare words:
Iraq War, real threat to America, al-Qaeda, Afghanistan, Iraq, loose nuclear weapons, a dangerous world.
Genius!
'Cause even liberals are a little scared about terrorists in Afghanistan, right?
February 29, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, so much for formatting! Apologies!
February 29, 2008 11:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or, perhaps, you are missing the point.... Which is that tools like Hillary are the scare mongers and this ad undermines her own scarmongering.
March 1, 2008 12:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm definitely not missing the point. Especially as a stand-alone ad, this gets an A+ for scare-mongering.
Don't forget, Obama wants Republican votes. And where again is he running this ad? In Texas, where there's an open primary.
Don't be a tool yourself.
March 1, 2008 1:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps Obama will wait several years to answer the phone, like he waited several years to take any kind of action on Iraq.
Or does the ad end with Obama giving a speech about the importance of answering the phone while the phone rings and rings?
February 29, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess you missed the bus.... analogy, that is.
March 1, 2008 1:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I guess you can xerox tv commercials too.
February 29, 2008 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's running for President so that he can take action on Iraq. What exactly do you think he should have already done?
Just because the guy is articulate doesn't mean he's all talk.
February 29, 2008 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know if this list is up to date, but here are 27 star-rank officers who support Hillary. I have not taken the time to research this list but I am willing to bet that at least a majority of these officers served under Bill Clinton. I am not suggesting that would be the only reason they support Clinton. Just pointing out that there is a likely correlation there. Of these 27 only the first 4 are of four-star rank.
"Flag Officers Endorsing Hillary Clinton for President and Commander-in-Chief
1. General Wesley Clark
2. General John M. Shalikashvili
3. General Johnnie E. Wilson
4. Admiral William Owens
5. Lt. Gen. Joe Ballard
6. Lt. Gen. Robert Gard
7. Lt. Gen. Claudia J. Kennedy
8. Lt. Gen. Donald L. Kerrick
9. Lt. Gen. Frederick E. Vollrath
10. Vice Admiral Joseph A. Sestak
11. Major General Roger R. Blunt
12. Major General George A. Buskirk, Jr.
13. Major General Edward L. Correa, Jr.
14. Major General Paul D. Eaton
15. Major General Paul D. Monroe, Jr.
16. Major General Antonio M. Taguba
17. Rear Admiral Connie Mariano
18. Rear Admiral Alan M. Steinman
19. Rear Admiral David Stone
20. Brigadier General Michael Dunn
21. Brigadier General Belisario Flores
22. Brigadier General Evelyn "Pat" Foote
23. Brigadier General Keith H. Kerr
24. Brigadier General Virgil A. Richard
25. Brigadier General Preston Taylor
26. Brigadier General John M. Watkins, Jr.
27. Brigadier General Jack Yeager"
http://tinyurl.com/2kjrhz
February 29, 2008 11:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wait a minute... people still watch TV?
March 1, 2008 12:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sun, any idea who the troops are giving their money to?
Here's a hint -- it isn't Hillary.
March 1, 2008 12:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't Hillary done yet? I am getting so tired of listening to her and her supporters whine. Enough already. Go home.
March 1, 2008 2:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if vets will donate to and vote for Clinton, who worked on the Dignified Treatment of Wounded Warriors Act in 2007 while Obama was busy campaigning for president.
March 1, 2008 2:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sensing that Texas is leaning to Obama, Hillary is threatening to sue the Texas democratic party, thus holding the official election night results for that state. She wont stop on march 4 even after loosing Texas, she will insist to get the Florida and Michigan delegates and will continue the fight to Denver's democratic convention, her selfishness will damage the democratic party and ensure a McCain election.
March 1, 2008 3:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
What I am thinking now is where do we go after Tuesday if Clinton wins both states by close margins (under 10%)? Does that mean that we're likely to go all the way to the convention before this is decided? That will be disastrous for the Democratic Party. I'm admittedly partisan for Obama, but this prospect scares me - we need to begin focusing on McCain. Only Democrats know how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - I sure hope Obama clearly wins one of these states, Clinton wins one and then she can exit with dignity, as the superdelegates swarm to Obama.
March 1, 2008 7:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
So basically what Obama was risking was his precious career and what Hillary was thinking about was putting peoples' lives at risk. Poor Obama, He is soooo brave, risking his career like that.
March 1, 2008 7:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
You might want to look into getting a job. Doesn't sound like you have one with all that time on your hands.
March 1, 2008 7:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just for clarification, my last post was in reply to LizB
March 1, 2008 8:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just for clarification, my last post was in reply to LizB
March 1, 2008 8:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Geez, guys. It is completely fair to run an ad, in a contested primary, that draws that distinction with your opponent - when the two of you are running for commander-in-chief. An attack ad, fear mongering?
And oh, tell Obama he really needs to get some new material. I mean, we all get it. The speech was great; we all loved it. Hillary was in the Senate when she did her vote - but the fact is - it was six years ago.
John McCain has already outmaneuvered you and said you are talking about the past. The fact is, we are there, and the fact that we're still there is a huge issue. Young people are still dying, our military is in terrible shape. We've got soldiers going back for 3rd and 4th tours, and a tour is 15 months long. So the issue is, what the hell do we do now?
March 1, 2008 8:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
"And oh, tell Obama he really needs to get some new material. I mean, we all get it. The speech was great; we all loved it. Hillary was in the Senate when she did her vote - but the fact is - it was six years ago."
It was six years ago, and when she was faced with the biggest decision of her political career - she failed miserably. So you might want some "new material" from Obama because the truth is unsettling for you - but his argument is a stellar one when it comes to Hillary's judgement. Besides, she didn't even read the NIE.
"John McCain has already outmaneuvered you and said you are talking about the past."
"Outmaneuvered" in a James Dean sort of way - but the past is relevant, John McCain's attempt to change the discussion only works on the dopes.
March 1, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow - the HRC crowd are sounding really desperate. And bitter. And whiney.
No wonder they like Hillary!
March 1, 2008 8:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think this ad is "brutal" only if you already love Obama. If not, it sounds just like the "yeah, I agree with Hillary" responses in the debates. The rest of us see his reliance on an anti-war speech in an anti-war district during a state senate race as weak evidence of some fantastic judgement.
But from a fan base that applauds when the guy blows his nose, I guess this kind of hyperbolic boosterism is to be expected.
March 1, 2008 8:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I feel like we are in a Republican unreality bubble. Hillary Clinton's fearmongering isn't helping. She should stop attacking Obama and start focusing on the Republicans. THEY
are the problem, as we all know.
I think it's a joke how Republicans keep talking about tax and spend Democrats. The Republican spend and spend record makes the Democrats look like Republicans. The Republicans are a fiscal trainwreck. If they were a household, they'd be on the verge of losing their house begging themselves for sub-prime relief!
Just look at their war of convenience in Iraq. The latest estimate is that the Iraq war alone will cost 3 to 5 trillion dollars, not to mention far more America lives than we lost in the 9/11 event which prompted the war. That's an abysmal rate of return on every count. That's orders of magnitude more than the $60 billion Republicans told us it would cost when they were selling the war. That's orders of magnitude higher than any number the Republicans are even trying to pin to the Democrats for anything. And the Republicans are ignoring the data, saying we can afford to be in Iraq for another hundred years.
Now Bush tells us we are not going into a recession. What a joke. And the Republican nominee for President, McCain, admits he also doesn't know squat about the economy.
It's beyond me why anyone would listen to the Republicans anymore. What's even more staggering is that after such a terrible record, the Republicans would be so arrogant as to harshly criticize anyone else on fiscal responsibility. The Republican electorate, their fast talking arrogant rude pundits like Rush and Coulter, and most of all their Republican leaders, need to be quiet and take a good long hard look at themselves.
In the meantime, let's bring in someone smart with a fresh approach. Let's bring in someone who is not going to spend all his energy fighting and tearing people down. Let's bring in someone who can bring us together to bring real change to the direction of America. That's what we need. That's our only hope for change. Otherwise it's status quo, and despite what the Republicans are telling us, status quo is looking pretty bad right now.
Obama '08. Yes we can!
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-02/29/content_7694954.htm
"WASHINGTON, Feb. 29 (Xinhua) -- The Iraq war will cost Americans between 3 trillion and 5 trillion U.S. dollars, including military spending, broader economic costs and decades of benefits and medical care for combat veterans, a Nobel prize-winning economist said.
In a testimony at the Congress Thursday, Joseph Stiglitz, winner of the Nobel Prize for Economics in 2001 and a professor at Columbia University, gave his latest estimate of the war's economic impact, the Cox News service reported Friday.
The upper end of the estimate is nearly double what Stiglitz had projected just two years ago.
He attributed the dramatic increase to the continuing intensity of the war, which will be five years old by next month, and the likelihood that operations there would continue for at least another year.
The war's gravest toll has been paid in blood.
Fighting in Iraq has so far taken the lives of 3,973 U.S. troops and left nearly 29,300 wounded."
March 1, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
"If one candidate's trying to scare you and the other one"s trying to get you to think, if one candidate"s appealing to your fears and the other one"s appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope."
-Bill Clinton, 2004
March 1, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
He specificalluy said in the ad that he took a big risk in opposing the war. That has nothing to do with Hillary. You are ignoring that he actually said there was a risk. Where was the risk for him?
March 1, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
He was running for the US Senate at a time when GWB enjoyed high popularity and those who opposed him were called unpatriotic.
March 1, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Same career risk for Hillary, but for her, it seems career trumps conscience.
March 1, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillery Clinton's resume, In a Nutshell.
I married a man who became a State Governor, and then the President of the USA.
Everything that he did that worked, was because of my help.
Everything that failed, was because I had nothing to do with them.
When you marry the right person, you get to jump to the head of the line, instead of having to work your way to the top, on your own merits, while all the while screaming Experience, Experience, Experience.
March 1, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
For the good of the party, please drop out now Hillary!
March 1, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Judgment and character matter. And Hillary's troubles me:
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-usark245589997feb24,0,2670956.story
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/24/164324/479/466/463280
March 1, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary kept pushing Obama to "reject", yet does she renounce OR reject OR return money from "troubled" firms?
"Sen. Hillary Clinton has declined to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from individuals at a company accused of widespread sexual harassment, and whose CEO is a disbarred lawyer with a criminal record, federal campaign records show.
The federal government has accused the Illinois management consulting firm, International Profit Associates, or IPA, of a brazen pattern of sexual harassment including "sexual assaults,” “degrading anti-female language" and "obscene suggestions."
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/29/718285.aspx
But let's just keep on playing that gender card and how she's a champion for women.
Feh.
March 1, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
That Hillary ad was sooooo scarey. I was so frightened just watching it... It scared alot of people...
March 1, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, it was scary... just the thought that Hillary would be answering that phone at 3 am was enough to keep me awake last night...
;-)
March 1, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's response to Hillary's scare ad is surprisingly weak. Simply airing an imitation of Hillary's ad and overlaying it with a tepid claim to having better judgment is not going to blunt the original ad's impact. And bear in mind that this type of ad, for all its obvious and trite qualities, has proven extremely effective in the past; it gets the reptile in the brain of your average mom and pop to scurry away to the nearest bush. It has won elections. To counter it, you need a much bigger punch. You need to loudly pivot way from the question, "Who is most qualified to answer the phone?" to the question, "Do you really want four more years of being exploited and manipulated by fear?" This new question has to make abundantly clear the baseness and danger of such appeals (it led to Iraq, to the suspension of habeas corpus, to unchecked domestic spying, etc.). Finally, it has to be grounded in a much more forceful and dramatic pledge: "I promise the American people that I will never use fear to advance my policies or get my way politically." Obama's little speech behind the podium was poorly read and actually flubbed at the end.
BTW, Hillary's counter to Obama's response - "Texans don't scare that easily" - was excellent. She got to have it both ways. That was his line!
March 1, 2008 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Telephone Ring: Hello Mr. President of ___________ this is Barack Hussein Obama
President of .. (other country): who…… Osama?? Are you threaning my country?
Obama: no..no, this is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!
President: Hussein….. who?…… Sadam???? Anyway…. get lost!
Telephone Ring: Hello Mr. President ___________ this Hillary Rodham Clinton
President: Oh… Hello Mrs. President, how can I help you.
GO HILLARY!
March 1, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, cannot stand for his middle name, HUSSEIN, how he can stand up to face critical issue our country has.
The fact is, he is a talket than doer, he does not have good judgemen. He is a flip flop. Look...... he never has hearing as member of Foreign relation for Afghanistan. His whining was during the debate I only 13 months in the office and then running for campaign. For 13 months you cannot do anything for something you brag in your campaign. Even HILLARY busy campaign hold hearing.
I know why B. HUSSEIN OBAMA cannot have hearing, because he is to unorganize and too lazy to read paper that stuck-up on his table. Barrack admitted that about his organized skill during a debate.
The only Barrack proud about his record is OPPOSED the WAR. Hello ...... everybody, he was not even in the senate to cast his voted to oppose the war. Barrack Husein Obama said opposed the war during a speech. When he came to senate, may be by then he read, then Obama cast his voted to support funding the war. WHAT A FLIP FLOP.
Barrack couldnot even make-up originality of his own words. He took the title of his book "Audacy of Hope" from his minister that support FARAKHAN. He picked-up Govenrnor's Patrick word for his campaign. No wonder his policies that he campaign are identical with Hillary, because he also copy Clinto policies. I saw Clinton policies first came up in website.
March 1, 2008 12:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
And he has Trounced "Fighting Hillary" in eleven straight bouts.
Which one will foreign leaders respect and pay attention to:
A proven champion, or Tough talking Hillary, with a proven glass jaw.
Hillary talks a lot of trash, but she has gotten trounced by Senator Obama in eleven straight bouts.
Hillary is all Boxing Gloves and no Punches.
March 1, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
What about Obama's judgment in having a racist pastor who is friendly with the likes of Farakhan?
March 1, 2008 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Correct...when you buy stock, you can also purchase various levels of exclusivity for an additional fee, which would preclude someone within your industry using it (in this case, another politician), or anyone else using it at all. Sometimes to save money, you take a pass on exclusivity, which means anyone else can use the footage or photo. There's no intrusion on intellectual property.
March 1, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oops...that was supposed to reply to someone earlier. Sorry 'bout that...
March 1, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Democratic strategists have long been able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. This cycle, they all work for Hillary.
My first objection to Hillary's campaign was not her IWR vote (of course, I expected an apology)
but the group of people she assembled around her.
March 2, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel Hillary’s pain; I truly believe she wants to good things.
She has stumbled. Her judgment has failed her.
1) Her vote for the authorization for war was a head game. A head game designed by the Bush Administration, to force Saddam to blink. Head games have consequences. Bluffing doesn’t always work. Especially when you’re the dupe. For the Right Wing agenda
2) When Obama, was pressed by Russert about a perceived association with Farrakan, Hillary could have kept quiet, but instead, jumped right into the fray, as though, here was her opportunity to show her righteousness. Of how she risked alienating groups of people, whom she felt dishonored her campaign.
Only to have it backfire on her. That was her judgment call.
Hillary should have let Obama and Russert battle it out, but OH NO! Hillary wanted some of the action..
I’ve got news for Hillary. I don’t appreciate hate groups from either side.
A perfect man, was accused, of having association with Harlots and tax collectors, because he tried to heal them,
As President are you not caring enough, to help those you disagree with?
Actions do speak louder than words.
March 3, 2008 6:29 AM | Reply | Permalink