MoveOn Raised Almost $360,000 For Obama Since Yesterday
MoveOn gives us advance word on how much they've raised for Obama since midday yesterday: $357,000, with contributions still coming in.
"The Obam-a-mentum fundraiser has been our biggest fundraiser yet this year," MoveOn executive director Eli Pariser will say in a statement soon to go out to reporters. "Our members have not finished giving and none of the contributions through our site have been added yet to the Obama campaign fundraising totals. We are thrilled we'll be able to add to Senator Obama's big day."
It's kind of a sign of the times that hundreds of thousands in a single day probably won't surprise a lot of people, given the current astronomical sums we're seeing. But it is significant that MoveOn will keep chugging as a financial engine for Obama. And keep in mind that the MoveOn money is in addition to, not part of, the more than $7 million that the Obama camp raised since Super Tuesday.
Separately on the fundraising front, this is kind of amusing: Emily's List is now using, of all things, Chris Matthews' on-air buffoonery as a fundraising tool for Hillary. The Tweety Effect lives!















Yawn...
Merely $320K, wake me up when the real money arrives.
Seriously though, after a $7 million + day yesterday, this seems like chump change, although I guess that it moves the two day total over $8 million, which is very good.
February 7, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Her net worth alone is 34 mil and she will use it all in loan because she believes in her cause. She will put up her own money too. BO plays with your money, she will use her own money too. I placed a bet for her too today. I will again if called upon.
She is there till the end.
Clinton/Obama 08.....get used to hearing that.
February 7, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I congratulate you on your very novel line of spin there. I suppose that if it comes to light in the next few days that Obama were using the recent contributions to buy champagne for hookers in Vegas, I might find this convincing, but otherwise this seems like a rather transparent attempt to make a virtue of necessity.
February 7, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh brother, I really can't stand moveon.org. They jumped on the fundraising bandwagon to get press. Give me a break. Why didn't they do it before super tuesday?
February 7, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kefa give it up. Obama has too much dignity and integrity to be on a ticket with her.
February 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton says that she has now raised $6MM in a day and now everyone is being paid again.
February 7, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, that is a quick turn around. I tip my hat to her.
February 7, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, the correct read is that I am financing Obama's campaign and so he owes *me*.
What exactly to HRC owe you? Or the lobbyists in Wash DC? Or the politically wealthy abroad? Or friends of Bill Clinton?
You see the difference? The caps on poliical contributions brilliantly prove that Obama has a grass roots movement whereas HRC represents the old guard.
This isn't spin, it's just clear thinking.
February 7, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am sure the pharma/defense/insurance lobbyists that have supported HRC in the past will come through again, and Bill is set to net $20M plus from his Ron Burkle deals. I wish the Clintons would disclose their financials, as well as the donor lists for the library- why is this so secret? Remember the Rich pardons? And Bill's little Kazakhstan trip? If we do not address this now and nominate her, this is what the GOP will be talking about for the next few months...
Obama's money comes from thousands of new voters he's bringing into to party; it;s really a miracle and a tribute he gets this far, against the Hillary, Inc. machine and the establishment interests!
February 7, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Her net worth alone is 34 mil and she will use it all in loan because she believes in her cause. She will put up her own money too. BO plays with your money, she will use her own money too."
You're right. Obama depends on hundreds of thousands small donors to fund him, ten to twenty dollars at a time, and Hillary prefers the Mitt Romney approach of using her own personal fortune. Well, that combined with a touch of Giuliani's fondness for occasionally not paying staffers.
It couldn't be more clear. Obama is about us, Hillary is about her.
February 7, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Michael A.....will you forsake BO if he does unify with HRC? Will you not vote? What will you do if I am correct?
February 7, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually the correct way of viewing this is that Obama owes *me*.
Who does HRC owe? The politically connected? Political friends of Bill Clinton? The old guard? Certainly not *you*.
The caps on campaign contributions brilliantly prove that Obama has a grass roots appeal while HRC represents the old status quo.
This isn't spin, it's just clear thinking.
February 7, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, thank god HRC's senior staff is getting paid again. I was worried they weren't going to be able to keep the lights on out in Ballston. It looks like Obama will have a meaningful fundraising advantage the rest of the way. But HRC's fundraising haul of $6 mil is impressive. As is BHO's $7+ mil take. It's like two heavyweight fighters slugging it out round after round.
February 7, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
So basically Obama raised double what Hillary has since Super Tuesday. Nice nice.
And you gotta love Emily's List and NOW trying to exploit any perceived sexism for money and votes (not defending Chris Matthews, but seriously people). After the NY NOW's president went crazy on Ted Kennedy for endorsing Obama, and after lying attack mailers being dropped right before every election, I have absolutely zero respect for NOW or Emily's List, and I consider myself a feminist.
February 7, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kefa, that is the saddest, most bass-ackward spin I've heard in a long time. So in your estimation, inspiring average people to donate $25 apiece because they believe in your campaign is somehow gaming the system, but using your personal fortune to buy your way to the nomination is honest politics? Wow.
Why don't you ask Bill Clinton about your line of "reasoning"?
"We are very frustrated because we have a Supreme Court that seems determined to say that the wealthier have more right to free speech than the rest of us... For example, they say you couldn’t stop me from spending all the money I’ve saved over the last five years on Hillary’s campaign if I wanted to, even though it would clearly violate the spirit of campaign finance reform."
February 7, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do the HRC supporters know she's paying Penn $4.3 million, in addition to the $7,500 for a "voice coach". Now we know how and where she found her voice - I wish she would have used it against a war she voted for without reading the 95-page Nat. Intelligence Estimate (so classified no one on her staff had access to it) - I bet she DID read the polls that day....
February 7, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's sort of typical Clinton style to release this info in a guarded, packaged, spun manner.
Let's contrast this with Obama's method: a real-time counter on his webpage.
That's the difference between old-style and open, new-style. Think about it, Obama throws open the books, HRC's are closed.
So much for the examination process that HRC wants to claim.
This isn't spin, it's just clear thinking.
February 7, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have put this ticket out there for months now.....you have yet Michael A to answer. If I am wrong, well I look like an ass. My chance is still good....2 still left 50/50 chance....Clinton/Obama is still my call. Will you back that ticket if it is what I have call for at least 3 months now?????
Manup....what's it gonna be?????
February 7, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
didnt chris matthews make an apology regarding his so called "buffonery"? and wouldnt that make emily's list call for money because of him a bit disingenuis?
I guess chris' apology wasnt good enough for emily.
February 7, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think MoveOn was focusing on getting voters and volunteers before Feb. 5.
February 7, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillary's loan of $5 million to her campaign was so noble and if she doesn't mind putting up her own money for her cause, then why did the terms of her loan state she would be payed back in three days?
February 7, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah...yeah.....Obama is manna from heaven....please spare me.
February 7, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the VEEP topic:
Do not expect anyone to want the VEEP job with HRC. She and Bill have advertised that *they* are the team. HRC's VEEP will be the most marginalized in history.
Harold Stassen (look it up) wouldn't even want that job. And he's dead.
This isn't spin, it's just clear thinking.
February 7, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. Maybe she should have just asked Mark Penn to loan the campaign part of his salary back.
She also should have paid Penn by the delegate instead of a flat fee!
February 7, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thats why the old guard is backing him....yeah yeah
save that crap for the college kids that don't know any better.
February 7, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
The voice coach is an unfair shot and beneath us Obama supporters. Any why are you picking on Mark
Penn -- those $3000 suits and $500 combovers don't come cheat.
February 7, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kefa, this comment system is really screwed up. I was trying to answer you the first time. Tell you what if you are right, I'll buy you a lunch. Also, if she wins, I plan on voting for her anyway regardless of the vp.
February 7, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps if Hillary cries again, she can raise another $5 million.
February 7, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whats pissing you all off is despite all the money, all the press, all she was dead after Iowa, all the big mo, all the NH press ding donging the witch is dead, MSNBCing she is dead gotta have CALi she is still here. Nobody, nobody could have taken the beating she has taken and still be on top and you all can not take it. She beat the shit out of the coalition of press of right/left wingers plus the Kerry/Kennedys/Obama you name it's and she still won and as of today she is 13 freakin points up. She just pisses you off and I just love it. She is one tough bitch. Tough enough to sit in the Oval Office.
February 7, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
"She is one tough bitch."
Wow. Are you sure your are a Clinton supporter? I think by now everyone should ignore Kefa as an out-and-out troll. I find this stuff unacceptable from those who oppose HRC. I see no reason not to hold the same opinion of those using that term for people who support her.
Since there is no troll rating here. I merely and officially rate kefa as a TROLL.
February 7, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are 1000 percent correct clearthinker. It's going to be interesting to see who takes that thankless job if she gets the nomination. She should just make mr. bill her vp. Maybe that's the plan.
February 7, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kefa if you're so gung-ho on a Clinton-Obama ticket, why do you spend so much time badmouthing him? Just wondering.
February 7, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get back to me in 30 days after Dean gets them to kiss and make up and it's time to go after Walnuts with a team of Clinton/Obama and you all are having fits.
February 7, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Kefa,
Those Sr. Party Dems who back Obama do so for one of 2 reasons:
a) They recognize that the Clintons are not good for the Dem party long term
and
b) They recognize that Obama appeals to the exact same group that jumped ship for the GOP and Reagan in 1980. This is a singular opportunity to expand the Dem Party base to the middle and upper middle class (the same voters that the Dems need to carry the election as a mandate).
Of course, the old guard includes many of those who donated $2.3K in 2006-7 to HRC and endorsed her. Clearly, this represents the old political machine that the Clinton's control. For example, HRC won MA because she had the Boston Mayor's blessing. As a sophisticated politico, I'm sure you know that controlling and policing the precincts is at the very local level, not the state level.
Funny things happen in elections. Like the confusing voter ballot situation in Los Angeles this week. The same Los Angeles where HRC was tight with the Mayor.
This is the old guard to which I refer to. I'm sorry if there was confusion.
This isn't spin, it's just clear thinking.
February 7, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kefa, you are missing one important fact. Clinton would never want him to be her vp in a million years. He would out shine her, which she wouldn't want, nor would any candidate for president. You want someone to be your understudy and attack dog, not someone to out shine you. She would never want it and he would never want the job.
February 7, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course she will. The Clintons have a whole lot of money but I wonder where it all came from? Last time I checked politicians didn't earn that much. Obama is not a multi-millionaire, he just paid off his student loans 3 years ago. I would much rather have a President that had an idea what it is like to actually be a normal person in America. The Clintons really have no idea.
February 7, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Michael A....thats a deal....I too will vote for BO no matter if HRC is on the ticket or not....DEMs rule. The lunch is not something I need, just to know you will support the DEM is good enough.:)
As for a comment by SPacecat....I think that is the best ticket....I want a DEM winner. I don't badmonth him...I don't kiss his feet....I think he needs more time as a number 2 he gets the seasoning then he's my Prez.
February 7, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
February 7, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right, I was merely being flippant. Obviously, no one should scoff at $320K.
February 7, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Moveon has now put a notice on their emails giving the recipient the option of opting out of receiving emails from the for the duration of the primaries.
I wonder how much that $350,000 is costing MoveOn -- and whether or not the people who are contributing through MoveOn are Obama supporters who would have sent that money to him directly anyway.
February 7, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well as the saying goes.....time will tell. :)
Love to all my Dem brothers and sisters.
February 7, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
How can Obama accept MoveOn's contribution and adhere to his policy?
See: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/
February 7, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is he receiving money from the MoveOn PAC? I do not know what the answer to that question is, but if he is not, then I am not sure how it is that you see a contradiction here. On the other hand, if he is taking money from the MoveOn PAC, I suppose that is rather hypocritical.
February 7, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
From MoveOn's site:
The MoveOn family of organizations is made up of a couple of different pieces. MoveOn.org Civic Action, a 501(c)(4) nonprofit organization, formerly known just as MoveOn.org, primarily focuses on education and advocacy on important national issues. MoveOn.org Political Action, a federal PAC, formerly known as MoveOn PAC...
Obviously, the PAC element of MoveOn would contradict his stated policy. With respect to Civic Action, I believe it is illegal for non-profits to finance political campaigns. But there may be exceptions that I'm not aware of.
February 7, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great for bringing this up - Emily's list is now being used as an arm of the Clinton campaign. I cancelled my membership in protest for the use of limited resources against an "opponent" who is on the same side of every issue! Think about the division the Clintons are causing within the pro-choice movement - the scorched-earth tactics leave a very bitter taste in places like NH.
February 7, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the Clintons owe us openness about Bill's financial dealings - if don't talk about it now, and she gets the nomination, the GOP will bring it all up, including Bill's deals with Kazakhstan autocrats, the Saudis and Dubai. We cannot afford not to "vet them"!
February 7, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you ever wonder where that comes from, and why that can be a BIG problem in the general election? The GOP prays for the chance to drag all that out, unless we force the Clintons to open the books now. This is not a chance we can take. With the Kazakhstan deal, to get over $11 Million for "JUST BEING ON THE PLANE" with a buddy is simply not good enough, especially of the deal is with an autocrat and might fly against state dep. policy!
February 7, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
TPC, actually that's a very, very, very good point. Obama should say thanks, but no thanks, pointing to this policy. Maybe then moveon.org would just STFU. They do more damage than good. Hopefully, the mainstream media didn't pick up this stunt. I'm still pissed about the betrayus ad. That totally screwed up the dem strategy in congress and screwed up public opinion for moveon.org to get media attention and contributions.
February 7, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder why Hillary did not immediately hold a news conference yesterday to correct the misconception that some of her staff were working without pay. Was the delay a part of the 'woe is me' appeal to get more contributions from sympathetic supporters? Was it to get a twofer in the media on the same topic, or part of a larger strategy to keep media focus? Or, maybe Penn focus-grouped to determine that the story of staff working without pay offered just too much a picture of desperation.
At any rate, that long delay might have some of her donating base feeling a bit 'taken advantage of' as well as the delayed news that their donations will actually be used to pay back Hillary's loan [she who is worth millions wants those little people to pay her back!]
There is a strong whiff of manipulation coming out of Hillary's campaign. Yesterday, I read something on Taylor Marsh's site advising maxed-out donors to ignore the donation ceiling by joining Emily's list to funnel more money to Hillary through that group [not one commenter spoke up to criticize that suggestion].
Whatever the true story behind the Hillary loan and fake news about non-paid staff supporting a plea for donations, I see that it backfired and truly motivated the grassroots folks in the Obama camp. The Hillary camp ante was matched and doubled by the Obama camp.
February 7, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
He should not take a penny. The McCain machine will have a field day. People need to game this out. Here is one hypo.
John McCain: "My friends, the junior Senator challenges some of my contributors, but his campaign is funded by a liberal anti-war group that has said that General Petraeus -- a distiguished soldier in active service -- has betrayed this country. That was despicable. The junior Senator did not denounce the ad or the group. Even Hillary Clinton denounced the ad. I am not funded by such shameful groups."
February 7, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
The point is not how much you can raise, but how much you can raise that you are allowed to spend on the primary. Hillary has traditionally been raising 25% of her money that can only be used on the general election. It wouldn't surprise me if they've squeezed big donors lately effectively increasing that amount. Obama's general election percents have been very small.
If I had to take a WAG, I'd guess the primary dollars in this brief fundraising spurt were 7 million vs. 4 million. I'd also guess that Obama is able to sustain that advantage and in fact increase it, over the long haul.
And FWIW, I have no dog in this fight since I didn't and wouldn't vote for either candidate.
February 7, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
it is possible to unsubscribe to moveOn.
they offer a mewling do you really have to go, are you sure? reply when you do, but that makes it even more gratifying.
i guess they felt they just had to take sides.
i, too, take sides but i don't claim to represent hundreds of thousands or millions or whatever.
February 7, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
At least I agree with moveon on all the issues which is more than I can say about any Presidential candidate. I kind of like being represented. It's such a quaint old democratic thing.
February 7, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 14, 2008 6:31 AM | Reply | Permalink