BOOYAH! Well, I guess it's not THAT big of a deal, since these are core democratic voters, anyway.

Important? Probably not. Though I do like it, anyway, for my candidate.

I think strategically this helps Obama in terms of getting out the vote on SUper Tuesday. Still- I wonder long term if this is an association that helps Obama in the General. Can he reach out to independents and republicans with MoveOn attached to him? Will MoveOn adjust their tactics for a campaign about concilliation and hope? Would it be possible to use MoveOn to address attacks (swiftboating) and mobilization get out the vote without some of their more strident advertising? I think Obama has to be very careful with this endorsement...

Well I'm not sure I think that this endorsement or the most liberal senator tag are good for Obama. I almost wish MoveOn had stayed out of it. I also find it odd since Obama skipped the vote on condemning MoveOn.

I voted for Obama in the MoveOn poll yesterday.

It just seems incredibly obvious to me that Obama has a much better chance of beating McCain.

1) He attracts independents in a way she simply cannot. In fact, she repels them.
2) Hillary will unite the Republicans in a way that no one else could.
3) An Obama loss will be massively disheartening to his supporters, and I don't think they will bring their energy or cash to the Clinton campaign. They may vote for her, but will they campaign for her?

She is qualified for the job, but that doesn't mean she can win it. I understand that she is incredibly inspiring to millions of women. Hell, I'm inspired by the fact that a woman is a serious candidate for the Presidency. But there is simply too much at stake right now. Casting a vote to make the point that a woman is qualified to be President is deeply irresponsible.

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to recast the future of the Democratic Party and our country on a much brighter path. Let's not blow it.

I have some usesful information on the subject of the Moveon.com poll. As an Obama supporter I cast one (1) vote for Obama. My email inbox was inundated with "thank you for voting" replies - certainly more than fifty and perhaps close to 100. I did everything I could to inform Moveon.com that there was a problem, finally unsubscribing.

As an Obama supporter, I want to be among the first to state that gross number of ballots recorded in the Moveon.com was false. I cannot say whether the proportion of ballots was erroneous. If every voter received an equal number of excess votes for his/her vote, then the proportion would not be affected.

It doesn't look to me as though moderate Republicans and Independents have the animosity toward MoveOn that the conservative base does. It doesn't strike me that they'd be turned off by this endorsement, especially given that it wasn't MoveOn's leadership that made the decision, it was MoveOn's membership. I think this will help him, especially given the bizarre support that the liberal base has given Hillary.

Progressives are on the march! Ann Coulter endorses Hillary (out of McCain and Hillary), and MoveOn endorses Obama, can we just accept that Obama is what our party and our nation needs now???

And the General Betrayus thing won't matter in the general, MoveOn will support whoever the Democrat is, so the argument is moot. Not to mention, they aren't going to be on the front page of what is going on, so no one will care. Quit trying to make this into a bad thing, it won't hurt us in the general.

I am not much impressed with MoveOn.org in terms of effectiveness, so I doubt that this will help him much. That said, I doubt that it will much hurt him either.

Meanwhile, I notice that Sen Clinton has picked up the implicit endorsements of both Paul Krugman and Ann Coulter today. Fancy that...

How ironic! The organization formed, and *named*, to tell us to "move on" from the Clinton impeachment, is now telling us to "move on" from the Clintons!

I'm beginning to believe in miracles.

It's ironic that the HRC campaign started off by telling us how Obama was too centrist -- and now we have a Kennedy endorsement and a MoveOn endorsement. I guess Obama is okay with the left.

I believe that in the GE this year, the sorry tag of "liberal" will have lost it's sting. In fact, "conservative" will be a tag bashed around the GOP as they decide who is purest among their nominees.

As was clear from the LA debate, after the dismal record of the Bush White House, it will be tough to sell "liberal" as a terrible evil on the country. In fact, as the economy tanks (and more and more evidence indicates the slide is getting worse), all those so-called Reagan Democrats will start looking for big government bailouts and handouts. Remember that the GOP has essentially had a grip on the country for the past 30 years because the general populace has been voting against their own economic self-interest so that they could win the "culture wars".

That was the genius of the GOP in the 60's and 70's. They made themselves the party of cultural restraint -- and slipped in all the "business first, people second" dogmas after that. (I'd say "conservative fiscal values" but there was nothing conservative about Nixon taking us off of the gold standard, Reagan's out of control DoD spending, or GWB's outrageous deficits.)

Meanwhile, both the Transportation Workers' Union and the CA SEIU have moved from Edwards to Obama.

RIGHT ON!!! HERE IT IS...THE PROGRESSIVE ACTIVISTS WILL GO OUT OUT TO SEE OBAMA WIN. IF (OH I HOPE NOT) IT IS HILLARY SOME WILL VOTE, SOME WILL NOT, NOT MANY WILL WORK AND CONTRIBUTE...SHE IS JUST TO POLARIZING AND DON'T FORGET THE WAR.

I agree that MoveOn will be attached to whomever wins the nomination. (For example, if Hillary wins, believe there will be ads about her "willing suspension of disbelief" remark.) But I think this only helps Obama in the primary.

I'm surprised that Obama won the endorsement by such a wide margin. This is particularly interesting given the fact that MoveOn was born as a defense of Bill Clinton during the impeachment.

I haven't been able to sign in. I wish moveon.org just kept its mouth shut. It's one thing to artificially paint a dem with moveon.org's nonsense and quite another to be endorsed by them. I don't think that this is a good thing and I think moveon.org gives themselves more credit then they are due.

Also, Josh was great on olbermann, the US's only surviving newscast and obama did a great job in the debate. I thought he was inexperienced and didn't know anything other than singing kumbaya. Well, he didn't seem like an inexperienced and uneducated novice to me, but I guess that I am biased.

Michael A.

Move-on will help turn out the progressive base. That's a plus. The Repubs are going to use everything they can to smear anyway in the fall so one step at a time.

[DonnaG here, another who cannot otherwise get on to comment until the tech problems get solved]

I am proud of MoveOn, especially their efforts after Katrina in which they worked diligently to get volunteer hosts for homeless victims.
For those who say that the MoveOn association with Obama could hurt, all I have to say is that, for me, there comes a time when grassroots organizations have to reach for the clarity of taking a stand and simply moving on for change, rather than putting their fingers to the wind to guess about and try to preempt all the possible reactions that might come.
Obama said something in an interview way back in 2002 [I think] to the effect that Democrats seem to take wishy-washy stands and then whine about results, rather than stake their position, and even if they don't win, they'd still be stronger to just take their lumps and go on.

I like the idea of MoveOn.org, but in the style and content of the ads, there is often too much "preaching to the choir", not phrased or communicated in a way as to connect with people in the middle, or having other points of view. There is a tone to the MoveOn.org ads which reminds me of the mid to late 60s, after the unity had turned into polarization, and there was a sense of all government institutions being "wrong" or "bad" among young people. In the MoveOn.org ads the new villains are the Republicans: "we're good, they're bad". It is a very different tone from the early 60s. I find this approach to be somewhat arrogant and ideologically rigid in a way which is similar to conservative Republicans, just coming from the left rather than the right. Liberal-Progressive extremism alienated people in a serious way during the 60s, hence, Nixon, Reagan, Bush. Evoking the spirit of the 1960s requires a degree of finesse to avoid such a pitfall.

What's ironic is that "Move On" was started as opposition to the impeachment of Bill Clinton. The gist was, "censure him & move on." You would send e-mails and faxes to the congresscritters to implore them to move on from the issue of impeachment.

I guess Move On has a different meaning with this Clinton.

Greg, what about older users who can't log on?? I don't want to create a new account and lose my blog at the cafe

Take that poll with a couple of grains of salt. Trapper on Dailykos received an email from MoveOn thanking him for voting even though he had not done so. Either someone has hacked into Trapper's gmail account or Trapper was stoned beyond belief when voting or, more likely, MoveOn's vote tallies aren't the most accurate in the world.

BFD.

I echo the experience of the Chicago poster about Boomer representation in Moveon. They recruited eight 50ish folks in my suburban precinct to campaign for Kerry. But Democrats don't need folks to GOTV apparently. I hope Obama can help change the mindset in our party that it's so dangerous to reach out to liberals that it would just be so much better if we stayed home and didn't show our leftie faces at the polls on election day to keep the election pure for the centrists. That worked so well in 2004. Ha! The only bright spot in my GOTV efforts in 2004 were the people who spilled out the front door to tell me how passionately they opposed the war in Iraq. I'm sure they did vote. But I sure will not vote for anyone who still can't admit the vote for war was a mistake. But then I'm a leftie so pretend you don't know me.