Michelle Obama: "I'd Have To Think About" Supporting Hillary As Nominee
If we weren't having such severe technical issues -- apologies again, and thanks again for your patience -- I would have posted this many hours ago. Anyway...
Michelle Obama went on Good Morning America today and sent decidedly mixed signals as to whether she'd back Hillary, should she become the nominee. Michelle did say that everyone would work hard for "whoever the nominee is." But when asked directly whether she'd back Hillary, she said: "I'd have to think about that."
Michelle also said that Obama was the "only" candidate who could take the country in a new direction, suggesting that Hillary represents nothing but a continuation of the status quo. This is a pretty harsh assessment, both because Hillary would of course be our first female president, and because, as Paul Krugman says, Hillary and Obama "are far closer to each other on every issue than either is to any Republican." Take a look...

Actually, the question was:
"Can you see yourself working to support Hillary Clinton should she get the nomination?"
Not as harsh, when you hear the actual question, instead of the one you made up, Greg.
Enough with the sensationalized bs., please.
February 4, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
are you kidding?
February 4, 2008 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, Dan. I quite agree.
February 4, 2008 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, Dan. That's the question I heard as well.
But let's cut Greg some slack here. These guys have been working overtime to do this change-over.
Hooray for Obama! And for Michelle Obama.
And thanks to tpm for generally fair reporting and yeoman's work on the site.
February 4, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, that is hairsplitting nonsense. Every Democrat worth spit will be "working to support" the Democratic nominee -- the alternative is 4 more years of the current program.
It's not surprising that Obama-bots, who basically are contemptuous of the Democratic party except insofar as it promotes their candidate, are rushing to the defense of an indefensible position.
How about holding your candidate to the same requirements of honor and honesty as you hold the others? Hmm?
Thanks.
mp
February 5, 2008 7:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
After a lot of the stuff that has happened this campaign, I don't blame her. In addition, I think that she answered the only way she could given the call for a Clinton/Obama ticket in that order that HRC has pushed on the trail as of late. I think this is an idea that the Obama campaign wants to effectively push back against, and this snippet doesn't hurt them much and does so effectively.
It wasn't a bad moment. I think blogs have blown it and the non-tears from earlier today out of proportion.
February 4, 2008 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
WHAT!!???
I'm an Edwards supporter who's planning to vote for him tomorrow. I want to cast at least one vote this year that I'm truly excited about.
But I'll proudly vote for whomever gets the Democratic nomination and work tirelessly on behalf of the ticket.
If the Obama family doesn't feel the same way, they have no business campaigning as Democrats.
What is Michelle THINKING?
February 4, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I call bullpooppy.
First, she was asked if she would "work" for HC if she was the nominee (not whether she would "back" her) to which she said she'd think about it. THEN when prodded further to explain, said clearly said that everyone in this party is going to work for the eventual nominee (which I assume includes herself). If you reverse the order these too statements were made then it looks suspicious.
Plus, when you are fighting to win you just have to act like you will only accept first place. YOu have to say you are the only one who can lead. The minute you say, I like my guy but the other guy would be just as good, you might as fold it up. Everyone knows those are the rules of campaigning, even when virtually every one also falls in line behind the eventual winner. It's why no one, no one ever answers the "would you be the other guys's running mate" question until all the voting is in.
This is just immature and manipulative You do it to all the candidates and you should stop.
I always thought this website would be about explaining why the mainstream media's obsession with pitting candidates against each other by creating false dramas and exaggerating very minor issues was stupid and damaging to our political discourse. I guess I was wrong. I guess this is just another form of tabloid journalism. Hope you are at least making money....
February 4, 2008 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can't put too much weight behind this. Michelle Obama isn't running for anything and holds no public office, so any speculation as to whom she might support or not support is pure gossip. This story is meaningless. Considering the things the Clinton campaign has said about her husband, I'm not surprised that she'd be hesitant. But that's her personal decision, and she's entitled to it.
February 4, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, you can't seriously believe that simply having the first female president would take the country in a new direction, can you? Say it ain't so. I mean, I guess vaginas go in while penises stick out, but I think most of us are thinking more in political terms when we talk about a new direction...
February 4, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, I feel her. I'm disgusted with both of the Clintons because of their lies and dirty campaign tricks, I think their conduct has been below even the lowest standards of decency, and basically reflect what I'd expect from Republicans. I'm infuriated with their conduct, and it wasn't even directed at me or my significant other. So hell yes, her support in no way needs to be a given. I'll go much further and say that I could never vote for Hillary in good conscience, because I'm ashamed of her conduct, and I'm ashamed to be in the same party as her and Bill at this point, not to mention my disgust with her support of the Iraq war, her embrace of lobbyists and her opposition to banning landmines and clusterbombs, to name a few policy issues.
And wait, Paul Krugman says they are closer to each other than Republicans? I thought Obama was Hitler, or Stalin, or GW Bush or the Boogeyman, or whatever else Hillary wants Krugman to say about Obama. Krugman can go to hell. That Clinton tool lost any credibility in my eyes a long time ago. His vendetta against Obama has been shameless, from his constant and unfair attacks about health care, to his attacks over the Reagan comments. I couldn't care less about what Paul Krugman says about anything anymore.
February 4, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's the deal? She has to think about who she supports? Is there a problem with that?
And while it's true that they are very similar on most issues, Michelle is saying she believes that Obama is the only one who will be able to deliver that change. Nothing wrong with any of that.
Here's a good assesment of the whole thing:
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=446
February 4, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wassup, Michelle. Are you gonna take home your marbles if your guy doesn't get to play? Who are you looking out for? Not the American people. You would rather suffer for more of the same?
February 4, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meanwhile SUSA just released bunch of polls that look good for HRC:
CA Hillary 53% Obama 41% +/- 3.4%
MA Hillary 56% Obama 39% +/- 3.9%
AL Hillary 47% Obama 49% +/- 4.0%
MO Hillary 54% Obama 43% +/- 3.9%
IL Hillary 30% Obama 66% +/- 3.0%
OK Hillary 54% Obama 27% +/- 3.8%
February 4, 2008 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I heartily agree with the first comment. Greg misrepresents her quote. I don't expect that kind of stuff from TPM. You disappoint me...
February 4, 2008 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg,
There is a big difference b/t having a certain position on the issues and actually getting things done in Washington, and for you to give that point such short shrift is odd.
I think Michelle might have been thinking about publicly endorsing Sen. Clinton vs. voting for her privately. After what the Clintons have done to Sen. Obama, I can hardly blame her for thinking twice about it.
February 4, 2008 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah! Paul Rosenberg, writing as Big Tent Democrat, was spreading the vapors about this earlier. The truth is: she said everyone would support the nominee of the party. She failed to say she would campaign for the nominee, which is understandable given the Clintons' behavior post-Iowa through South Carolina. I don't even know if I can vote for HRC. And I know all you TPM people will say that's immature, but they weren't talking about you. Were they?
February 4, 2008 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah! Paul Rosenberg, writing as Big Tent Democrat, was spreading the vapors about this earlier. The truth is: she said everyone would support the nominee of the party. She failed to say she would campaign for the nominee, which is understandable given the Clintons' behavior post-Iowa through South Carolina. I don't even know if I can vote for HRC. And I know all you TPM people will say that's immature, but they weren't talking about you. Were they?
February 4, 2008 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
As DanR2 said, it was "working to support" not supporting. There were no mixed signals about who she'd "back" or "support," just who she'd "work" to support. There is a big difference.
February 4, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
M Plaster-
Hillary Clinton IS more of the same.
February 4, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh come on. I interpreted this as her saying she would have to think about whether she would "work" to support her, or actively campaign. I think you have to listen to the whole statement, she might be a tad imprecise, but she was just saying her husband is the one who can do the best.
And are you quoting Krugman as a neutral observer? Of course there is not much daylight between their policy positions, but then that doesn't jive with many of Krugman's recent columns/blogs.
February 4, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you think that it has occurred to Michele that if Barak wins the nomination that he might just need the votes of HRC supporters like me? Does she think her sulky pettiness, her version of the Obama Whine, is going to garner support?
Such a g fabulous notion of entitlement she has...
You go girl!
For the rest of us, DANGER! WARNING WILL ROBINSON! WARNING!
February 4, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg,I've had a great deal of respect for you as a journalist but this is way off. Do you think Michelle should say that Hillary would be just as good as her husband? I took what she was saying as she wasn't sure she'd go out & actively campaign for Hillary but she'd vote for the nominee. Gee, maybe if her husband doesn't get the nomination, she'd like go to back home, resume her job & spend more time with her kids rather than hitting the road for Hillary. Do you think Elizabeth Edwards will be out campaigning for the nominee?
February 4, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't like Hillary Clinton at all. I don't like her bullshit smear tactics that's about the equiv of Rove. If they can't stop talking stupid then they won't get my support or the support of people that will not register to vote because they have been sick of it for a long time.
I see a lot of difference between Obama and Hillary. If there were no similarities, I wouldn't vote at all since my candidate is out.
I was an Edwards supporter and people that criticize other people for not supporting Hillary if she wins the nomination are making me that much closer to voting for McCain. I don't like either of them but at least I've have my protest vote saying that once liberals and Democrats had their chance for real change, they reverted back to the same corporate, political machine, that promotes war, censorship, and anything that will get them elected.
Oh well... I'm more of a Naderite anyways.
February 4, 2008 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is thinly veiled code for the threat that Blacks will get depressed and stay home if Mr. Obama is not the candidate. Not a very classy act for a possible first lady. More importantly, though, the threat, which has come from a number of Black leaders, makes a joke of Mr. Obama's idea that he can unite the country behind him. Obviously, he has no intention of working to unite the country if he's not the candidate. The Obamas are just not up to consistently delivering the message they are supposed to be running on.
February 4, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
yawn. next manufactured controversy please.
February 4, 2008 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok. Even Josh's comment on the front page is a bit off the mark.
Josh, I'm your fan! Please be more careful
February 4, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
So if Michelle Obama doesn't vote for the Democratic nominee, I guess that means she'll vote for McCain. Lovely.
February 4, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is the better choice.
I am convinced that those who are supporting Hillary are doing so for emotional or loyalty reasons. She is not going to be able to beat the GOP candidate.
February 4, 2008 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously, when I read posts like this, I begin to think that the blogosphere has become as shoddy in it's reporting as the "MSM" it loves to attack. Obama didn't say she wouldn't "back" or "support" HRC, she said she wasn't sure she'd "work to support" her.
On to substance: if she wants to sit home and twiddle her thumbs, that's fine. But maybe she just wants to end her time on the campaign trail? Spend more time with her kids? Go back to work?
And, really? Given the things Bill Clinton has said about Obama, you find Michelle Obama's comments "harsh?"
February 4, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am with the go easy on Michelle view. It was bad question, and after the race-baiting in South Carolina, race baiting so bad, Bill has to go around apologizing, she may be just not quite ready. My hunch the loser of the dem nomination will support the winner --either way. How hard they work, and how much they help, will depend on how nasty it gets.
February 4, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow,
I can't imagine the cacophony of crying by the MSM if Bill had made such a statement. Maybe Michelle should shut up and bake some cookies.
February 4, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clumsy.
She'd better walk this one back, quickly and politely.
February 4, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Imagine the howls of outrage if either of the Clintons responded exactly the same way to that exact same question.
February 4, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can we spell C-L-A-S-S-L-E-S-S?
Really and truly, Barak and Michele have been rude, crude, and now stupidly insulting... as if I needed yet anothe reason to not vote for Yes We Can't.
Chicago is welcome to them.
February 4, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Personally, I vote for people over parties. After 15 years as a liberal independent I changed my voter registration to Democrat for the sole purpose of caucusing for Obama tomorrow. If he gets the nomination I will remain a Democrat because if Barack Obama represents the future face of the Democratic Party I most definately want to be a part of it.
February 4, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're not alone.
I did exactly the same thing (and in Colorado too, no less).
February 4, 2008 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a stupid question to ask a spouse when they are in the middle of a campaign. They are a candidates fiercest advocate.
February 4, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
After the Clinton's and their surrogates treated Obama like complete crap why would anyone expect less? I'm surprised she didn't just laugh.
February 4, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think many value-grounded, responsible Democrats will have to search their souls if Mrs. Bill Clinton is the Democratic nominee.
for many whose commitment is to the nation and its future rather than blind loyalty to a very ineffective Democratic party,
who value integrity in leadership, and
who are not inclined to support political divisivness and the politics of personal destruction as sport,
the Clintons do not hold much appeal.
February 4, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Took the thought right out of my mind! I was thinking precisely that if Obama prevails in the end, he'll have the press to thank for it. His "hot air" rhetoric would have fallen flat had the press turned its lens on him for just a quarter of the time that it has been turned it on Hillary. If Obama wins, it will be because of the media's negative onslaught on Hillary and not because Obama is such stellar candidate. His suit is as full as his resume. Image if Bill Clinton had come out and said that "he'd have to think about supporting Obama" if he wwon the nomination... The media would have had a field day with it, no doubt about it. The double standard is so appalling I wonder how the media could recover from it, especially if Hillary wins...
February 4, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, could you imagine what would had happen if Bill Clinton had made this remark. NBC, MSNBC and CNN would be salivating over this. Yet, when the golden boy and his supporters make such comments, nothing happens. People aren't stupid and they are seeing exactly what is taken place. The media will be embarrassed tomorrow again. Some fools never learn.
February 4, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the second expression of this theme--the other is Obama's skepticism that "she would get the people who voted for me" if she were the nominee--so I don't think she gets a pass on this. This is Michelle Obama on message.
Obama is not Neo, and I hope folks will stop with the soft treatment in the press. It won't be this nice in the General.
February 4, 2008 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Michelle's comment echos that of her husband a few days ago, when he said he was unsure 'his' voters would vote for Hillary should she be the nominee.
Way to overestimate your position in the whole scheme of things! What a perfect Leiberman moment!
February 4, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama said in his SC victory speech that there would be mistakes made.
Certainly this comment by Mrs. Obama falls into that category.
What is amazing and dissappointing to me is how much venom is instantly spewed in the progressive blogosphere. The first comments I read on one of the most recognized sites just flat out called her a "bitch". This is so dissapointing and just increases my overall cynicism. I am just as discouraged when I see the same term used to describe Senator Clinton.
Taken even further, it is extremely disrespectful to use the familiar "Hillary" vs. the more proper last name of Clinton or Senator Clinton. How many times do you see Obama referred to as Barack?
Even in this TPM post and all of the comments so far I see one use of the Obama's first name vs. countless references to Hillary.
I hope that Mrs. Obama accepts responsibility (or stands by her comment), but I also hope we all can find a little more civility and respect (at least within our own progressive community). Probably a pipe dream...
February 4, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Hillary" say here signs. She chose this!
February 4, 2008 10:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Hillary" say her signs. She chose this!
February 4, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
We can rightfully argue that with FDR being dead and both Kucinich and Edwards being out of the race that there remains no, nada, none, zero, zip candidates in the race willing to take the country in the direction it needs to go after the election and frankly, between Clinton and Obama who cares who wins. Either will be a crap-load less than we need and a shit-load better than all the other Republican candidates combined.
February 4, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why spin what she said? We all understand what she meant and the message she is trying to send. Why do the Obamas feel they have to be so rude? She's already acting like a sore loser. I'm really tired of hearing people insinuate that Black voters will get depressed and stay home in November if Obama is not the candidate. My friends used to call that "selling wolf tickets." I guess she's not part of the 80% of Blacks who still approve of the Clintons. Sadly, we'll have to make our way forward without her.
February 4, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do. I think Elizabeth Edwards will campaign for the Democratic nominee if asked. You picked the wrong woman to use as an example.
February 4, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Someone help me understand what the Obama and Clinton people are so mad about, the Obama folk maybe a tad more so. Is it style? An amorphous theme? What?
February 4, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good question. My guess is both sides have a sense of entitlement. There is also a lot of ignorance on display and quite a few Freepers who are just here to stir the pot. Maybe this November everyone should vote in their own best interest for a change. Forget a just society, a great society, inclusion, progress and all of the other themes that for so many years have dominated Progressive thinking. Let the Democratic Party fracture along racial, economic and class lines. Maybe we're just not up to holding it together.
February 4, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to laugh at what appear to be a bunch of upset white folks expecting an educated black woman to play lawn jockey for the Clinton's after they played racists to try to win an election.
It's quite funny but unfortunately not unexpected.
February 4, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cute. Her 15 minutes of fame and time with Oprah and all is almost over. She's welcome to be a sore loser, who cares? Obama's team is already conceding defeat tomorrow and trying to spin it.
February 4, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Matthew, I wonder if you really think being a condescending asshole all the time really helps bring people over to your side. Interesting strategy, to say the least.
February 4, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
that's some interesting hubris, matthew weaver.
February 4, 2008 8:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought Obama came across as rather arrogant but now it appears that the whole family is just ungracious.
February 4, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is with all this "arrogant" crap? I don't see it, not at all. Are you sure you don't mean uppity? Are you sure you're not just an good old fashioned racist? You sound like one.
February 5, 2008 3:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, whayiyano
February 5, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
distinction WITH a difference.
"Working to support" sounds like: will you work on the campaign. She's not sure.
That does not mean she will not VOTE for Hillary.
Will Bill and Hillary work on Obama's campaign?
On the other hand, Michelle does back out though in her later comment (" You know, everyone in this party is going to work hard for whoever the nominee is. ") which suggests it was a boo-boo.
February 4, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Will Bill and Hillary work on Obama's campaign?"
Let's hope not!
February 4, 2008 10:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
They might as well be. Most of Obama' campaign is filled with ex-Clinton aides. Everything out of Obama and Michelles mouth's is scripted and nuanced to get the intended effect. THE MLK thing was manufactured by Obama's people. The statement in no way diminished Martin Luther King's accomplishments. It show Kings brilliance in bringing people together. Obama used it to divide. nice.
February 4, 2008 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't see myself working to support Hillary, because I have a job and a life and don't enjoy campaigning. I'll vote for her, of course, and tell anyone who asks to do the same. But I guess by TPM's logic, I won't be supporting Hillary.
February 4,