Could we maybe focus some 527 money on John McCain?

The problem with that argument is that Obama has just as many "real accomplishments" as Clinton. But he's not running on those. He's running on what he will do for America in the future and that requires rhetoric and speeches to get it acrosss.

Based on Tapper and Ambinder's coverage, it looks like the DC Democratic Consultantocracy, those super-genuiuses who brought us victory after victory in from 1980 - 2004 are in panic mode. The idea of a candidate who's not a colorless technocrat with a people-skill deficiency, their preferred model for victory causes them to recoil in horror. So they frantically rush around hitting up all the most well-heeled FOB's for 100K donations (no, really, this monstrosity is funded by ten million dollars worth of 100K donations!) and plan an all out assault of negativity targeted to poor white women, white men and, if they have anything left over, latinos.

Pretty much the concentrated essence of everything that is wrong, and has been wrong, with Democratic politics for the last twenty-five years packed into shadowy 527 dedicated to firing off one last massive, pointless blaze of nihilistic glory.

Clinton08: We're in the 21st Century Slogans Business.

Yay! Here comes the swift-boating from within our own party! Stay classy, Hill!

Is it just more is this campaign primary season turned to stupid mode, and from here on out just insults with no real value?

The Republicans will come up with stuff that will make fun of Barack's name and a lot of them will go along with it because they, in all their intelligence would never vote fer sumone wit a ignernt name like Berock Hussein Obama.

What about an ad saying, you can't do that because of this reason and that reason! I am going to do it this way because its much more prudent for the following reasons.

Maybe its time to start tuning out.

Donations at 100k a pop? Yesterday the line for Ohio was that Hillary was "one of us", a working class gal who has to pull the night shift.

The messages from this campaign are the least coherant that I can remember. Just like when we heard that Obama was a Reaganite one week and a Ted Kennedy far-leftist the next.

Erzatz-NCSteve: Word.

The public face of their organization and the people funding it on the order of a million each are completely different stories. I may have missed it, but TPM didn't report on this Wall Street Journal story about big Clinton donors (and Emily's List donors, etc) trying to figure out how to quickly circumvent existing 527s, etc and set up their own to directly attack Obama: http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB120286639798963915.html?mod=blog

The article goes into a little more detail than anything coming out of Tapper or Ambinder about where the money for this is likely coming from. Here's the full version of the article since it's not available free from the Journal: http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/big_clinton_fundraisers_may_run_their_own_ads/

FYI, no idea what the hell the hillaryproject is; just the only site I could find with the full text of the article. Suffice to say, the list of contributors doesn't paint a rosy portrait of the well-funded supporters (ie, irresponsible playboy millionaire real-estate heir Steven Bing) trying to prop up her campaign to the tune of millions each.

The prominence of Gray Davis staffers bodes well for this effort. I bet Terry McAuliffe is heading up the fundraising.

With the hope for a clean victory now completely out of reach, Hillary's only hopes at this point can only be 1) manipulating a superdelegate-based win at a train-wreck convention, or 2) more likely, torpedo Obama's chances to win in hopes of keeping the field clear for a last-chance 2012 run. Either way, the days when I had respect for her will have to be only a memory.

Yay! More corporate money into the Clinton campaign! Bought and paid for, baby!

What's the point of this? It's too late for Hillary. They've got to see that. It's just too late.

So what's the point? Are they deliberately trying to destroy the Democratic Party? Are they trying to help the Republicans defeat Barack Obama so that Hillary Clinton can try again in 4 years? What in the world could these people be thinking?

Can anyone explain this? Have they just completely lost their minds?

He needs to prove he can campaign negatively too. The depths of hatred for Hillary (rational or not) have barely been plumbed so far in this primary.

Destroy her, Barack. You've knocked her down for the standing eight count already. Do not let her get off the canvas.

ooh....congrats to the award TPM......great work on the ATTY thing. You earned it. I have different thoughts on the coverage of the election.

Hillary needs to get out in front and stop this. Now.

Otherwise, the Clinton legacy will be the same as Ted Kennedy's in 1980: a broken convention, and perhaps a lost Presidency. She has lost; she needs to face that. Anti-Obama 527s now is the political equivalent to torching the Kuwaiti oil fields.

Someone get Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid on the phone. There needs to be a serious delegation of Democratic Party leaders to tell Hillary that she needs to start thinking about the interests of the Party and the country. Run on your won strengths, and if you can't win on those, then you don't deserve to win, period. If she is willing to throw her party under the bus for the sake of her own campaign, then the Party needs to be willing to throw her under the bus for the sake of their party.

Well all, we are at the edge of the Cliff.....I guess our spineless Dem leadership are going to let the Clintons and their rich enablers drag us all over the cliff with them. This is really pathetic, that the party leaders are going to let that 527 group loose on one of our own. No matter who you support, this should NOT be allowed.

Yeah, I do hope he spins that as, you know, Hillary's working the night shift getting millionaires to donate to attack me. Who is she fighting for...you or herself?

Well, she certainly handed him a big juicy softball for tomorrow night's debate.

She is going to have to go negative tomorrow and he knows it. Forewarned is forearmed.

Yep, she's trying to Swiftboat him.

After the disgrace of 2004, I hope Democrats will punish her for this.

Swiftboating a fellow democrat -- you can't get any lower.

Swiftboating your own party - what a great way to go DOWN.... Mrs. Clinton is smart - she has a final chance to prove she is wise, and this is not it. Will they really not stop at anything, no matter what the cost to the party and the people they claim to care about? That's leadership we can trust! STOP!

-- Graduated first black president of Harvard Law Review having won trust and support of conservative members.

-- Passed over 600 high-money law firm offers to work for civil rights practice at fractional pay.

-- Added health insurance for 20,000 children, welfare reform, earned-income tax credits, increased minimum wage in Illinois.

-- Reformed death-penalty cases requiring interrogations be video-recorded. Passed Illinois Senate 58-0. Signed into law by Illinois governor who first opposed Obama’s bill. Obama succeeded by building consensus with conservative opposition.

-- Opposed Iraq war publicly, long before invasion. Accurately depicted it as of undetermined length, undetermined cost, undetermined objective, with a great likelihood of civil war breaking out.

-- Expanded program to locate and dismantle stray Russian WMD with Republican Senator Lugar.

-- Passed major ethics and lobbying reform bill with Russ Feingold, insisting upon tougher restrictions around gifts, meals, etc. And extended the interval preventing exiting congress members from moving directly into lobbyist positions.

-- Toured Kuwait, Jordan, Israel, and Palestinian territories, telling Palestinian Authority Abbas that US would never recognize Hamas leaders until they renounced mission to attack Israel.

-- Cosponsored Secure Orderly Immigration Act by John McCain. Passes Senate 62-36. Makes undocumented persons who have been here 5+ years only allowed to stay and apply for citizenship if they pay back-taxes, learn English, and have no criminal record.

-- Communicated frankly to Michigan automaker executives of need to increase fuel-efficiency standards by at least 3% per year.

-- Many aisle-crossing bi-partisan solutions throughout 10 years of senate experience (8 state, 2 federal).

-- 100% approval rating from the League of Conservation Voters, Planned Parenthood. National Education Association gives him an “A” on their most recent scorecard.

-- In Illinois State Senate sponsored 780 bills, 280 were signed into law.

-- In first year as US Senator, held 39 town-hall meetings throughout his state, sponsored 152 bills and resolutions, and cosponsored 427 more.

-- Designated US Senate point person on ethics by Speaker Harry Reid.

Shameful. Apparently they've decided to lose ugly.

Ok, everyone line up behind the 60 year old white woman! Lets' GO! Into the 21st Century!

Everyone seems to believe this is great for McCain:

He gets a free preview of how to attack Obama.

I disagree. Get the most negative attacks out right now. Vet Obama.

Then, in the General, what is McCain going to do? Repeat the same attacks that didn't get Clinton elected?

The thing is, this is already over. It's impossible for Hillary to win Texas by the margin she needs to, the system does not favor her, momentum is not on her side, and all the negative attacks will do is increase Obama's support.

I put down what I hear and read from all sources. All I am saying is this is the type of scrutiny that Hillary has been put under, talked about etc. Whether it is good or bad you can take from which person you support. Some who support Obama will say this s nothing nasty but then again they might think that way because they do not support her. As to your comment, I am not trying to win anyone over, nor on most sites would that even be feasible to even try it nowadays. I don't care to win you over either, and my post had no intention of doing so.