Hillary Camp Spins Tonight's Losses In Advance
Seeking to frame tonight's results in advance, Hillary spokesperson Phil Singer sends out this statement:
The Obama campaign has dramatically outspent our campaign in these three states, saturating the airwaves with 30 and 60 second ads. The Obama campaign has spent $300,000 more in Louisiana on television ads, $190,000 more in Nebraska and $175,000 more in Washington.Although the next several states that hold nominating contests this month are more favorable to the Obama campaign, we will continue to compete in them and hope to secure as many delegates as we can before the race turns to Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania.
Hillary advisers are gritting their teeth for a bloodbath tonight -- and indeed, are bracing for the possibility of winning no contests this month. They've spent days and days trying to lower expectations for what will happen, so it'll be interesting to see how the media plays tonight's results.
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Yes we can.
February 9, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I heard Hillary giving a speech last night and she actually tried to steal that line from Obama. It was one of the most pathetic things I've seen so far in this race. She yelled, "YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!" Some of the faces in the crowd looked a bit confused ("I thought this was a Hillary event?!") She simply has no shame.
February 9, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hrebendorf (or anyone)--
Is there a link (video or text) to that event, where Hillary used "Yes, we can"? Or even an article about it?
Thank you!
February 10, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, I am relegated to watching fox entertainment. It really sucks. CNN is awful, really, really awful. I'm glad their the clintons channel. MSNBC is doing stupid reruns of "investigations." Therefore, its fox entertainment.
They just interviewed a precinct captain in seattle and he said that the votes are breaking 3 to 1 for obama. Also, he said that other caucuses are experiencing that as well. Holy cow!!!! 3 to 1. That would be huge.
February 9, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
All of these races are irrelevant. What matters is what happens with the superdelegates.
February 9, 2008 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the superdelegates are the party insiders. And more than anything, they want to put a Democrat in the White House in January. And they will back the candidate that looks like s/he has the best chance of winning in the general election. If things continue to go in the direction they're now heading, that candidate will be Barack Obama. Please see the aggregated results from Pollster.com (on the right of the page) for evidence. Obama will pass Clinton in less than two weeks. Then it will be his race to lose.
February 9, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the super delegates will go for the winner of the pledged delegates making these races very important.
February 9, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
All of these races are irrelevant. What matters is what happens with the superdelegates.
the relevant thing regarding superdelegates is whether they will vote in a way which does not hand the presidency and the control of the senate to the republicans.
Perhaps I misinterpret your attitude----so I will not warn you about the dangers of shoving anything up the voters' anatomy.
February 9, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Hillary camp is good at the expectations game -- make it sound like Obama is expected to win everywhere by 25% and then claim victory when he "only" wins by 2 to 5% or 10 to 15% even.
The fact is that a month ago he was behind by 20%, the more people see him, the more they like him. I'm hoping for 3-0 today! Actually, I'm hoping for a perfect February. But, realistically, Obama could be moving slightly ahead of Clinton.
February 9, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The Hillary camp is good at the expectations game -- make it sound like Obama is expected to win everywhere by 25%"
But he wins by WAY more than that. Wonder how they'll spin that one. I saw Hillary speaking in Virginia a little while ago. Her words sounded positive, but her face showed her true state. This has been a bad, bad night for poor old Hill.
February 9, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Obama campaign has spent $300,000 more in Louisiana on television ads, $190,000 more in Nebraska and $175,000 more in Nebraska.
Why the two Nebraska's?
February 9, 2008 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed, if the superdelegates annoint either one of these two there will be hell to pay.
How about the Democrats do something really radical and use democracy to determine the nominee? Whoever gets the most votes wins! What a novel approach.
February 9, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just finished caucusing in Seattle, Washington State. My precinct went 5-1 Obama-Clinton, and other precincts meeting in the same location seemed to be going in a similar direction.
February 9, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are one lucky guy. I moved from Seattle to Minneapolis a few years ago (family-related) and I miss Seattle so much it hurts. Damn. It's gonna be 8 degrees below zero here tomorrow. Double damn.
February 9, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any news out of LA? All I hear is that it is very low turnout. NE and WA seem like landslides for Obama at this point.
February 9, 2008 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is currently ahead with less than 1% of the votes in. It could be a close one. A real relief for her if she wins there, or even loses by a small margin. I doubt she'll win, but it would be great news for the Clinton camp.
February 9, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
1% in and Obama pulls ahead. Meaningless at this point.
February 9, 2008 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sure, this race is likely to boil down to super-delegates, but these primaries/caucuses do matter. Every vote matters. Especially in this race because momentum will mean everything leading into the convention. Hillary and her supporters feel she has a divine right to the thrown, and voters tonight will speak out against that, and in support of Obama.
February 9, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry, was there a law stopping Hillary from spending as much as she wanted in any of those states?
February 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
:o)
February 9, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton has plenty of money — so why doesn't she advertise & otherwise contest these states? That she has apparently wrote off the south & central states, even during a Democratic primary season, suggests she intends to win as 50%+1 candidate in the general. But what's the point of being the president of the United States if you are just going to write-off half of the country from the get-go?
February 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was the law of she ran out of money. "Nobody expects the Obama juggernaut of small donors."
February 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
All of these races are irrelevant. What matters is what happens with the superdelegates.
That's sounds similar to a prior nominating process.
See, one candidate in this other nominating process had won the support of the people. But, the party power brokers gave the nomination to the person who was the status quo and whose turn it was to be president.
That happened in Chicago in 1968. Do ya think the super delegates want to repeat that?
February 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any news out of LA? All I hear is that it is very low turnout. NE and WA seem like landslides for Obama at this point.
CNN Said 49% African American on the Dem side, if that's any indication to you.
February 9, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you. I've been worried about the low turnout, but a high AA turnout should be good for Obama.
February 9, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, shuster should be fired according to the clintons, just like the rest of americans. The clintons economic plan is for everyone to work at walmart for minimum wage with no health insurance. People wake up and send the clintons packing in 08.
February 9, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really, that's pretty pathetic as excuses for an anticipated bloodbath go. $300,000 more in Louisiana? $190,000 more in Nebraska and $175,000 more in Washington? I'm sorry, but, leaving aside the fact that, as already noted, there was nothing preventing her from spending her entire family fortune in these three states if she'd wanted to, that's really just chump change by TV ad standards.
February 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really, that's pretty pathetic as excuses for an anticipated bloodbath go. $300,000 more in Louisiana? $190,000 more in Nebraska and $175,000 more in Washington? I'm sorry, but, leaving aside the fact that, as already noted, there was nothing preventing her from spending her entire family fortune in these three states if she'd wanted to, that's really just chump change by TV ad standards.
February 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really, that's pretty pathetic as excuses for an anticipated bloodbath go. $300,000 more in Louisiana? $190,000 more in Nebraska and $175,000 more in Washington? I'm sorry, but, leaving aside the fact that, as already noted, there was nothing preventing her from spending her entire family fortune in these three states if she'd wanted to, that's really just chump change by TV ad standards.
February 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, wtf? I know, know dammit, that I didn't submit that last one three times!
February 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Waaaahhhh, Waaaaahhhh. Um, guess what, Obama didn't have a goddamn FORMER PRESIDENT campaigning on his behalf! He also hasn't been known by 100% of voters for decades. Hillary has always been the default candidate, and Obama has found an uphill battle this entire way, against the two most famous Democrats. And she is complaining about him having an edge on her as an excuse for her loses???!! Give me a break.
February 9, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen wwjb.
I am so weary of people criticizing Obama for having Oprah campaign in three states for him and other endorsers. It's like people forget that Hillary is known to every single American and has a beloved former President and First Daughter campaigning for her. There are still millions of Americans who don't have a clue who Obama is.
The same thing with Florida. Hillary supporters say it is fair to seat Florida delegates because no one campaigned there. John Edwards was the former VP nominee and Hillary the former First Lady. Obama is the only candidate who would NOT have been known my millions of Floridians without campaigning.
February 9, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just got out of my Washington caucuses:
My precinct 5-1 Obama.
the other precincts that were there:
5-1, 6-0, 4-2 5-1 Obama for delegates.
Young people were out in force for Obama. Older women concerned about health care were for Clinton - but couldn't say what the differences were between Obama and Clinton on health care.
It may be different elsewhere - but Obama had a huge advantage in my area near Seattle.
February 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
My wife and I just caucused in Vancouver, WA (considerably downstate and bluer of collar than Seattle)--our precinct also broke for Obama by a 5 to 1 margin. Pure Obamanic chaos, and very invigorating...
February 9, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just finished caucusing in Port Townsend, WA. In this small, progressive town, Obama seemed to draw above 70% in many precincts. Turnout was high.
February 9, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
The first reports that I've read here in Washington state are looking like it's a huge sweep for Obama, even in the more conservative parts of the state. These reports are anectotal, true, but what I've seen so far is so consistent it's hard not to believe that Obama has a huge win here.
February 9, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
My earlier comment seems to have been eaten....but I was going to say...isn't that really lame spin? I mean, it seems to be saying, "The only reason we lost is that we were out-fundraised and out-strategized! Who could have known that we were supposed to care about dippy little places like Washington and Nebraska?"
Why is this a useful argument?
February 9, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not. But between this, and the Shuster "outrage", it's a transparent attempt to prevent Obama from taking control of the news cycle.
It's only a question of whether the MSM will fall for it.
February 9, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hear, hear, Thompson.
February 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does anyone believe that Hillary taking the Rudy strategy will work? She isnt even attempting to campaign in the February caucuses...then come March she expects that voters will turn to her in mass?
I think it will back fire...
February 9, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
WA results (thanks buzzflash)
http://www.wa-democrats.org/index.php?page=display&id=272
February 9, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Such a lame excuse coming from the Clinton Campaign.
Didn't Mitt Romney outspend his opponents by a vast amount, and that did not get him the victories that he sought!
February 9, 2008 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well it looks like this might be another in a long line of elections where I have to (unenthusiastically) vote for the lesser of two evils. I think the whole system is set up that way. That translates to no president ever really having much in the way of popular support.
February 9, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Outspent 300k? 175k? Boo hoo, what's that 1 day worth of air time?
February 9, 2008 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
She may give any excuse she likes but she lost because he is the better politician.
February 9, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmm
What makes you think Obama is not going to be the nominee?
February 9, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary gets over 30% in Nebraska and Washington, so she'll receive a few delegates. Good news for her in a night of bad news. Obama is widening his lead in Louisiana with a little less than 3% of the votes counted. And the Clinton camp is attempting to spin this by saying that Obama outspent them. SO? He'll outspend you everywhere else too. THEN what will your excuse be?
February 9, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
7% of the votes in and Louisiana looks like another rout. Obama is going to be unstoppable soon. Hillary needed to do better tonight somewhere...
February 9, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's really amazing to me is role education is playing in this election. Obama is getting a serious majority of voters with a higher level of education. Why is that?
February 9, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
CNN just called Louisiana for Obama. It's a rout.
February 9, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
In case anyone's paying attention, Obama carries the Virgin Islands.
February 9, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
So much for playing the race card. Nice goin', Bill.
February 9, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton Subtext - We could have spent more money but then we when we lose - it would really look bad. Their spin doesn't even make sense - unless they wanted to lose.
February 9, 2008 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
As you may recall, I came onboard with the Clintons; Chelsea mainly, in Arkansas, became First Cat in 1993, and weathered the Clinton’s tumultuous first term. I got wind of the Oval Office tryst (remember that?) June 1996, when White House Secretary Betty Currie confided that she found herself in the somewhat untenable position of acting as go-between for the furtive liaisons. I didn’t think things could get much worse, when that very day, Hillary Clinton told Walter Isaacson, “I must say we’re hoping that we have another child.”
I am old now and Buddy is gone, run over in Chappaqua, New York, in 2002. Call Buddy rambunctious, call him what you will, it wasn’t his fault. He was the product of less than scrupulous breeding practices, in response to consumer demand for a popular breed, without regard for a sound pet. In other words, Buddy was a just tad too inbred. Besides eating my dinner, and greeting everyone as if he or she were another dog, Buddy also developed a taste for sofa pillows. After devouring his first pillow, Buddy promptly took a dump on the living room rug, ran into the kitchen and upchucked. But I digress. Watching Hillary get trounced by Barack Obama though, sure makes my day.
Ps. Barack, much love, Betty & Socks.
February 10, 2008 1:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
I dunno.
But this spin is easily countered by asking: Do you believe Senator Clinton would have won these states if she had matched Obama's advertising? Why didn't you? Is your campaign short on funds? Or did you believe that Obama would have won anyway?
Do you really believe that Senator Obama's advertising is responsible for his 35% margin of victory in Washington state?
Would this be Senator Clinton's strategy in the fall: to stay off the airwaves in key states like Washington and Louisiana?
February 10, 2008 9:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's making the same mistake as Rudy Giuliani. He placed all his bets upon Florida, only to find it ripped out of his hands by McCain.
Now Hillary's just saying "We know he's going everywhere by a landslide, but who cares? We'll win Texas, Pennsylvania and Ohio"
Watch out Hillary. Don't fall into this trap.
February 10, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
These caucuses are a great advantage to Obama. Anyone that works weekends or doesn't have a whole afternoon to devote to caucusing or is not as active in politics (read--upper income) is much less represented. These are not prerequisites to voting.
The reason Obama attract red staters and upper income elite liberal types is that he doesn't ask anything of them--he is a "feel goood" candidate. Hillary will ask something of us--universal health care won't be free but it should be integral to any Democrat running for president. I am really sad that we are on the verge of nominating someone who will exclude at least 27 million from health care coverage and who has no plan that I've heard of to address working class angst.
February 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink