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Hillary Camp Hitting Obama On Public Financing Issue

The Hillary campaign has joined the calls on Barack obama to commit to public financing for the general election, a challenge that the McCain camp has been pushing. Obama had previously indicated he would take public financing, but the campaign is now saying they will not fully commit to public funds until he has the nomination locked down, at which point an agreement can be negotiated with John McCain.

"Tough to see how Sen. Obama is going to have credibility to talk about 'change you can believe in' when he’s breaking pledges," said campaign deputy communications director Phil Singer. "Sen. McCain will attack Sen. Obama on this issue with independent voters if they square off in a general."


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Haha.. Clinton says Obama should unilaterally disarm, while she admittedly will not commit to public financing. Is this a real story? Her camp just repeating the McCain charge, who is scared to death of Obama's contributor base.

Anyone else find it odd that the Clinton campaign is now coordinating their attacks with the McCain campaign?

"its unfortunate to see the Obama campaign using what are clearly right-wing talking points to attack a Democratic candidate."

- Howard Wolfson

So what's the surprise? If Clinton sees a rock lying around (or can imagine one), she's going to throw it at Obama.

What I find amazing about all this is that HE IS NOT YET THE NOMINEE. Surely the superstitious McCain understands that Obama doesn't want to have these conversations while he's still fighting, quite hard, to get the nomination. And surely HRC would be better off saying "well, it doesn't reflect well on him but it's a moot point, since he's not going to be in a position where he needs to decide". I swear they are both doing the best they can to make Obama look good, like the 'grown up' in the room.

Ummm, wow. This is pretty hypocritical considering the Hillary camp hasn't made any such pledge. Kind of like trying to attack Obama for having a state-registered lobbyist in his campaign, when her campaign is loaded with lobbyists and lobbyist cash. What a piece of shit.

It is also funny because the Hillary camp is basically admitting that they aren't going to make it to the general election...isn't this basically a concession?

Obama DID NOT say he WOULD take public financing. He said he would SEEK an agreement with the Republican candidate to abide by the same rules and be within public financing.
Please correct your post and check your sources.

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Mark Schmitt:


What we know is that McCain found a way to use the public funds as an insurance policy: If he did poorly, he would use public funds to pay off his loans. If he did well, he would have the advantage of unlimited spending.

I'm scratchin' my head tryin' to figure out how anyone figured Obama was gonna come out of this looking anything but all the wiser for calling McCain's bluff.

Has anyone actually seen this pledge?

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=02&year=2008&base_name=would_you_make_a_pledge_with_t

Tapped seems to imply all Obama actually said was he'd look into the option and discuss it with the republican nominee and he asked the FEC if he could raise money in the primaries and use the public fund for the general.

Something must be wrong with my computer. It doesn't seem to want to show me the part of this post where it tells us when Hillary committed to public financing. I mean, she did commit to public financing, right? Because otherwise it would mean she's just being an desperate, opportunistic hypocrite who would say anything or do anything if she thought it might marginally advance her chances of winning. And I can't possibly believe that of Hillary. Not Hillary.

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Hillary hasn't pledged to use public funding, so apparently they think there is a competitive advantage in the general not to do so. The disturbing thing here is that the Hillary campaign seems more than willing to try to force the Democratic nominee to give up this advantage if that nominee is not Hillary.

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Mark Schmitt quotes/comments on Obama's actual statement:

I described this a few weeks ago as a "pledge" to participate, but I should not have. Obama's precise statement was, and has always been, "If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election." That's an artful statement, and it's not artful in a "meaning of 'is'" sense -- it's exactly the right answer. A commitment to "preserve a publicly financed election" would have to mean much more than whether both participate in the system. It would require some significant agreement about how to handle outside money, 527s, "Swift Boat"-type attack groups, party money, etc., and other factors that have undermined the last two publicly financed elections, from both sides. It is hardly an evasion to describe this as an agreement to be negotiated, rather than a simple pledge.

So now the Clionton campaign is even considering Obama the nominee?

IF they are suggesting he commit now wehn he's not considered teh nominee, thye must be considering him the de fact nominee.

Obama's response should be:

To the McCain Camp - We'll discuss this after Denver.


To the Clinton amp- Ask if SHE intends to participate in public funding is SHE were to win the Democratic Nomination.

The sound of crickets will be deafening.

oops...Obama copied this speech recently...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc

I missed Hillary's withdrawal statement. Damn, gotta stop sleeping late.

He did not copy. As has been told in numerous stories in the past year (I refer you to the Boston Globe story from APRIL 2007), Deval Patrick is a close friend of Obama's and they both share campaign staff and he is a big part of his entourage and therefore they often come up with similar themes and words in their speeches because they touch on the same tone.
Nothing new here. Nice try though

I don't see why Obama would accept public financing when he could blow McCain out of the water with fundraising. Good move on Obama's part...and I don't recall Obama signing a pledge to take public financing.

The Clinton campaign, however, should not be entering the fray from such a weak position. I know they want it to look like Obama is breaking a pledge, but joining McCain in pushing a bogus argument is not a good way to go IMO.

Okay: third try for posting then I give up...

I don't see why Obama would accept public financing when he could blow McCain out of the water with fundraising. Good move on Obama's part...and I don't recall Obama signing a pledge to take public financing.

The clinton campaign, however, should not be entering the fray from such a weak position. I know they want it to look like Obama is breaking a pledge, but joining McCain in pushing a bogus argument is not a good way to go IMO.

"Anyone else find it odd that the Clinton campaign is now coordinating their attacks with the McCain campaign?"

Not odd, totally in character.

The Clintons dont' mind harming the probably democratic nominee, as long as its not them.

They never cared about the DNC, only about the Clintons. That's why the dems lost the house, senate and white house after 8 years of their self-absorbed mismanagement.

I can easily imagine Hillary deciding that if she can't win, she'd rather the party lose in November, so she will fight until Denver, alienate the youth and blacks, and line up with McCain on attacks against Obama.

This is classic Hillary being Hillary.

Unmasked, I say.

I watched Wolfson attack the Obama camp over this issue on FTN yesterday and wondered at the time if had switched to the McCain camp. Scum bag, indeed. Axlerod appropriately and promptly responded with, "so, you're conceding already." 'Nuff said.

McCain does not have a strong argument to make, given his (and his campaign's) past positions, and it has the potential for blowback, if it hasn't already. He presents the issue as if he has been consistent, however Media Matters documented, McCain's flip-flopping.

In a February 14 article about whether Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama (IL) will accept public campaign financing should he face off with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) in the general election, the Associated Press reported that "McCain advisers have said in recent days that he would abide by his proposal" to use public funds if Obama also agrees to do so. But the AP did not mention that according to The New York Times, days before affirming that "he would abide by his proposal," McCain advisers had said that he would not do so and would opt not to use public funds.

McCain said on March 1, 2007, that if he became the Republican nominee, he would accept public funds, provided the Democratic nominee did as well. However, according to a February 13 New York Times report, "Mr. McCain's advisers said that the candidate, despite his signature legislative efforts to restrict the money spent on political campaigns, would not accept public financing and spending limits for this year's general campaign."

In a February 15 article noting that the "McCain campaign's latest stand on the issue" is that it will, in fact, accept public funding if McCain's Democratic opponent does the same, the Times similarly reported: "On Tuesday, one of Mr. McCain's advisers told The New York Times that the campaign had decided to forgo public financing in the general election, an awkward admission for a senator who has made campaign finance reform a central part of his political persona." The article noted that "[u]nder public-financing rules, the nominees are restricted to spending about $85 million each for the two-month general election campaign."


Obama's response should hit these points.

The Clintons are attacking Senator Obama with the same ridiculous issue that the McCain campaign started on last week. We've always said Hillary's policies had a lot in common with McCain. Now she seems to be coordinating attacks on Senator Obama with the McCain campaign.

As for Senator Obama's plans to finance his general election campaign. You have to wonder why Senator Clinton knows that only the eventual Democratic nominee needs to worry about general election campaign finance? If the Clinton's are so ready to concede that Senator Obama will be the Democratic nominee, perhaps she should concede the race.

As for the Clinton's demand that Senator Obama restrict himself to public financing. The Clinton's themselves aren't now and have no plans to use public financing. Their plan would be to continue accepting millions of dollars from lobbyists and special interests. It's a hypocritical attack from a hypocritical candidate.


My take is that this entire line of attack is a big LOSER for both McCain and Clinton. This is because McCain is currently breaking the public financing laws. Once Obama starts responding to McCain's allegations by pointing out that McCain is currently and actively cheating the public finance laws, this whole issue will become so "inside baseball" for the average voter that McCain won't be able to use it as an effective attack.

I can't imagine that McCain wants his name associated with the words "Finance" "Cheating" and "Fraud". It could easily cause the media to re-educate voters about the Keating Five.

I just don't see a lot of attack mileage in attacking Obama for failing to come to a public financing agreement with a guy who is currently cheating under the public finance laws.

The Obama campaign should graciously thank Sen. Clinton for conceding the nomination and indicate that once she has given her official concession speech, Obama would negotiate about committing to public financing with the Republican nominee as he pledged.

I think that the Clinton campain is now resorting to throwing everything at Obama to see what, if anything, will stick? Seems pretty desperate to me!

Goes along with their new message of the day strategy...

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Wow. The Clinton camp really will use anything, won't they?

Next up: Obama has a black baby!

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