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Edwards Endorsement Meeting With Obama Canceled

An Edwards aide confirms to me that his meeting with Obama, which was schedule for today and was expected to focus on the possibility of an endorsement, has been canceled.

"The two of them have had a number of conversations in recent weeks and will continue to do so, but there is no meeting today," the aide says.

It's unclear as yet why it was canceled or whether it was rescheduled. Edwards met with Hillary on Thursday.


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For us Obama supporters, I don't think that this is a good sign. (Though I still can't wrap my head around the idea of Edwards endorsing her, given the things that he said about her during his campaign.)

I wonder if Edwards has waited too long to be relevant.

I agree - the longer he waits, the less important his endorsement is.

Once Barack swept Louisiana -- Edwards' iconic announcement and withdrawal site -- Edwards should have stepped up to the plate and given him the endorsement.

I'm also surprised that Jim Webb didn't appear at any of the events over the weekend and give Barack his endorsement.

Webb, like many Democratic politicians is wishing he wasn't a Super Delegate right now. (Mark Warner was recently described as "gleeful" that he wasn't a Super Delegate)

Webb knows that he is going to have to continue to work with both Obama and Hillary. One has a very good chance of becoming President, the other will continue to be a powerhouse in the Senate. He doesn't want to anger either, and he also knows that usurping the will of the people will go over like a lead balloon.

I suspect he'll either endorse whomever Virginia endorses or take the even safer route and only endorse after the final primary. At that time, supporting the democratically decided choice the electorate.

All that said, I was very surprised that he wasn't at the Jefferson Jackson dinner on Saturday. He was the only major Virginia politician not in attendance. I couldn't find anything in the press about it. I wonder of the endorsement dance kept him away?

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Women for Obama?

Wow, engage in identity politics much?

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I think Edwards' is an important pick up, no matter how late in the game it is. His pull with supporters is huge: every Edwards supporter I've talked too was certain he was the only man for the job, because, I think, he spoke their language about corporations.

He becomes irrelevant once it reaches the convention. If he swings any super delegates, by means other than convincing their constituents to cast a ballot, we'd be hearing "Foul!" for weeks.

I think this race will be decided before the convention, and that Edwards' support will have a big something to do with that decision.

Perhaps a cigar is just a cigar on this one. Obama is rushing about trying to erode the Latino vote for Clinton. Doesn't that show Edwards Obama REALLY wants the nomination? So perhaps Edwards is waiting to see what happens 2morrow? Then again, how important is Edwards in all this?

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Hope he endorses the clintons. That will reveal edwards' true hypocritical nature.

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I would far rather get his endorsement than expose him as a hypocrite. Whatever you think of him personally, he's an effective politician, champions important causes, and would be an asset to either campaign, right now as well as in the general election.

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I don't disagree that he talks a good game, but his senate record is awful. I really don't think that he will be an asset, because of that record. He never got the attention that the clintons or obama got from the media. Talk about flip flopping oh brother. His "progressive" rating or whatever that site is that the clinton people keep pointing to was in the 70% at the time he left the senate. He was no champion of the people. He voted for the bankruptcy "reform" bill and the iraq war. He voted for the war based on advice from his political advisors as opposed to the facts. Anyway, at this point it is probably moot. He had his shot before super tuesday. Now its probably too late to matter.

I am with Genghis on this one. I would rather have Edwards on our side than on the other. His endorsement would be a big catch, even if it is true that it would not prove fatal if he came out for Clinton.

He might want to wait to see how things develop now.

Why hitch your wagon to a losing horse unnecessarily?

Call me an optimist. Or naive. Or a hopemonger, but....

Could it possibly be that the meeting was cancelled because of an honest to goodness scheduling conflict?

Halperin says it'll be re-scheduled: http://thepage.time.com/2008/02/11/page-exclusive-tar-heel-talks/

So.......

Call me an optimist. Or naive. Or a hopemonger, but....

Could it possibly be that the meeting was cancelled because of an honest to goodness scheduling conflict?

Halperin says it'll be re-scheduled: http://thepage.time.com/2008/02/11/page-exclusive-tar-heel-talks/

So.......

Lot of drama from a guy who has won one state primary in two presidential runs. But he is a good stump speaker.

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My concern is that the hype surrounding an Edwards endorsement is larger than the actual value of the endorsement itself. As other people have already pointed out, I think that Edwards backing Clinton, after labeling her repeatedly as "the status quo" candidate will do more to hurt is own credibility than help her out. Of course, I've been wrong before....

If a one-term Senator that captured 26 delegates before losing his home state and folding up shop turns out to be a kingmaker, then I'm never voting again.

No surprise. While I agree with Stirling McLaughlin that Edwards has drifted into irrelevancy, he is still respected by some and I am sure Clinton will welcome either his open endorsement or his non-endorsement of Obama. She already has the not-so-silent endorsement of Richardson.

I do not see Edwards as being hypocritical to not endorse Obama. Just the opposite. Obama does not push a populist agenda and his healthcare proposal is simply more of the same, rather than the universal health care that both he and Clinton sought. Obama is great on talk of hope but not on action that will support people really in need.

I can't see this as an indication he is going to support Hillary, because as I have said, that makes ZERO sense whatsoever. The majority of his supporters have gone to Obama, his union endorsements have gone to Obama, and his superdelegates are flowing to Obama. Furthermore, if there was a tiny speck of sincerity in all that "change" vs "status quo" rhetoric of his, he has to endorse Obama. I agree with everyone on this, an endorsement of Hillary, or a refusal to endorse will show him as nothing more than an opportunistic hypocrite and a political coward. Granted, I don't think this will be the case, at least not the Hillary endorsement, but it remains to be seen if he will be a political coward and not support real change. I don't see any logic in him, or anyone else for that matter, endorsing Hillary right now, because all of the support and all of the wins have been flowing to Obama.

I think we shouldn't read too much into this, but again I agree with everyone, if Edwards doesn't endorse Obama, he is a big hypocrite. I've been willing to give him the benefit of the double this whole campaign, and I like him for the most part, but if he doesn't endorse Obama, I'm losing all respect for him.

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You think so? As an Edwards supporter, I find that i and allot of other Edwards supporters are turned off by the arrogance, some what, of Obama and to a great extent by his supporters.

Edward's relevance is deminished only by those who fear they will not receive it. Keep at.

Hillary has been very solicitous and respectful to John Edwards. He deserves it.

ABC News' Eloise Harper reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., speaking in Lewiston, Maine, said that she would call on former No. Carolina Sen. John Edwards if she becomes president.

“There is a lot John and I have in common. I will be a fighter, and I intend to ask John Edwards to be a part of anything I do in the White House.” Clinton was prompted to speak about Edwards after a woman stood up and sad she was a former supporter of his -– but has not switched allegiances to Clinton. The woman commended Edwards for being a fighter –- and thought Clinton was a fighter, as well.

Clinton mentioned earlier in the speech that Edwards was the only other candidate running who offered a universal health care plan. “I was proud Sen. Edwards and I decided to put ourselves on the line politically,” she said.

My bet is Clinton cut him a good deal. I suspect the endorsement will include an announcement that Edwards will be the Veep candidate.

Why would politicians like Richardson and Edwards endorse a candidate with a staff in shambles, no money, and a completely deflated support base. The new SurveyUSA poll shows a 60-38 Obama lead in Virginia. Edwards is not an idiot. Even if he likes Clinton more and wishes to endorse her, he's not going to commit political suicide. If he does plan on endorsing her, he will wait until after the Potomac states. If she wins one of them, then he can go into Wisconsin and campaign for her. If she gets blown out in all three, then look for either no endorsement or an Obama endorsement.

Yes, Clinton said she would "call on him" if she won.

Forget AG, forget VP ... That's a big promise -- she might call him. Yippee.

I hope he doesn't sell his soul for a non-job offer.

I hope that in an Obama administration that he offers Edwards the Attorney General job. Edwards would seem like a perfect fit for that position.

Chrisgleven- Now that is something I wouldn't mind seeing. I think he'd make a great AG if his progressive ideals remained intact.

Personally, I took it as a sign that by leaking news of her secret meeting to the press, Hillary's people made it impossible for Obama to fly in to meet with Edwards without setting off a full-blown media frenzy and photographer parade all the way from the tarmac at RDU to Edwards' house in Chapel Hill.

She definitely complicated the logistics of the trip for them and I doubt that was an accident. Plus, Obama has places he needs to be for the next two days. (Hillary, not so much.)

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If it's just a scheduling conflict, no big deal, but with the leaked info about Hillary's "secret" meeting at chez Edwards, I feel like there's a game being played, and I don't see what it is. I'm hoping that the point of this game is to generate media intrigue about a planned Obama endorsement, but it could equally be for a Clinton endorsement. The question I asked in another thread was who leaked the Clinton meeting. If it was Clinton, that bodes well for her, because she wouldn't leak it if the meeting didn't go well. If it was Edwards, that bodes poorly for her, because it blew the cover of a meeting that she was trying to keep secret.

And both Obama and Clinton are mum, which is funny. You'd think that one of them would start to think that this wasn't going their way and talk down the importance of it.

Don't get me wrong, I know how much Edwards went after Clinton and how much he defended Obama against her attacks during his campaign. I have argued longer and harder than anyone on this site for the possibility of an arrangement between them. But if Edwards felt strongly for Obama, he would have endorsed before Super Tuesday. Since, he did not, I've lost confidence that he has an obvious preference.

Regardless of who leaked the meeting this benefits Edwards. If the media gets hold of the competition for Edwards it will be yet another subcontest to be spun by either side. I think it would help Hillary the most at this point with her current negative trend.

NoVaDem, I seriously doubt Webb would endorse Obama. Webb is a moderate by all accounts. I may have missed something in news reports to suggest otherwise, but if he endorses anyone, it would be Clinton who holds views closest to his.

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Wow, you are as astute as ever mattie. Webb and clinton were totally on the same page with that iran war vote. She was for it and Webb was jumping up and down against it. But they are totally on the same page. Too funny, the alternate reality zone.

Webb has already endorsed Obama.

What significance is a meeting cancellation with no other info? Doesn't even say who canceled. This is BS to try to make Edwards relevant again.
I liked Edwards but something about his manner seemed fake. I don't really buy the poverty line he runs down. What does he do for the impoverished when not running for office? I missed that part if it exists.

If he backs Clinton does it matter to people who can't decide between the two? I hope not since I can't fathom why his opinion is of such great importance. He couldn't even carry his backyard of South Carolina.

Bobby Kennedy never came off as being fake like Edwards does. I still had Edwards before Obama though until he proved unelectable.

Just wondering how many of you who are calling Edwards an irrelevant hypocrite will change your tune if he endorses Obama.

AngryMouse- I don't think Edwards backing Hillary makes him a hypocrite but I do think he is irrelevant for the most part. If he backs Obama I'd say "That's nice." I'd say the same thing if he backed Hillary.

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Ha. I agree. (And wonder also how many Clinton supporters will call him irrelevant if he endorses Obama.)

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Slightly off topic, but the NY Daily News hints at a Gore endorsement for Obama. Not sure if there's any actual news here, but it is at least pretty clear that Gore won't be endorsing Clinton any time soon.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/02/11/2008-02-11_campaign_takeout.html

Meanwhile, out in the world of actual voters, Obama racks up lopsided win after lopsided win. Can understand how the candidate on the wrong end of these might want to shift the story to backroom shuffling. But at some point it won't matter any more.

Most likely, Edwards has decided not to endorse anyone. Hillary probably convinced him not to endorse Obama, but she also failed to make the sale for herself.

As this blog has reported, Edwards likes Obama, but questions whether he is tough enough to battle it out with the GOP. If this is really Edwards' big concern, the best way for him to answer his question is to wait. If Obama can wrest the nomination from Hillary, that's a good sign of toughness. If he loses, he obviously wasn't a good enough at political battling.

Additionally, there is the increasing chance that this will come down to a contentious brokered convention. If Edwards endorses, he will not be able to act as a peacemaker/mediator/broker.

A lot of speculation floating around. Lets get this straight, Edwards will endorse Obama. He would have done it the Saturday before Super Tuesday but Obama had so much momentum it would not have mattered much. Now it makes sense for Edwards to endorse after the Potomac primaries to maximize the wins and momentum heading into Ohio. If Obama can win Ohio a state where Edwards' blue collar messages will run very well, I believe it will be the proverbial knock out punch.

All this public talk about meeting with Hillary and Obama is very smart by Edwards to frame it like he is absolutely neutral and interviewing the candidates before he decides. If he just came out and endorsed Obama soon after suspending his campaign it would be seen by some as the 2 male candidates ganging up on the female candidate. Now it will look as though he gave Hillary every opportunity to earn his support.

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ncallero, I'm amused by your disdain for all of the "speculation" only to be followed by your own speculation to which you add the weight of fervent conviction. So do you hang with Edwards? Has he confessed to you what he plans to do? Spare us mortals a little of your divine wisdom.

Let's examine this excellent analysis: "He would have done it the Saturday before Super Tuesday but Obama had so much momentum it would not have mattered much."

Brilliant! Why would Edwards want to do anything to get in Obama's way in CA, TN, OK? Why would Edwards want insert himself in VA where he might actually have some influence. It's Ohio that Edwards is really after. In his infinite wisdom, he saw how it was all gonna go down from the beginning.

Look, I want Obama to win, I want Edwards to endorse him, I used to think that Edwards much preferred Obama (and he still might), but for some silly reason, I allow logic to guide me, and I don't talk sh-t when I don't know what I'm talking about. Before super tuesday, when his supporters were still undecided, would have been an ideal time to endorse and help Obama win even more votes. For reasons that are unknown to me and even to you, he didn't do it. So don't pretend that you know what he plans to do.

I was starting to hope he wouldn't endorse at all. I'm afraid it will appear as the guys against the girls if he endorses Obama. As much as I support Obama - I still feel a sting from things like that - so how does it play with undecided woman? Maybe he just needs to stay neutral for now.

Count me among those who thinks it might just be an honest-to-goodness scheduling conflict.

Don't forget, the Politico/ABC interview was a late addition to Obama's schedule. If they were meeting in NC tonight, presumably after the interview, it would probably not take place until after 10pm. If it took place before the interview, Obama would run the risk of not getting back in time to DC.

Edwards endorsement would help Obama win white, non-college, working-class Democrats, who happen to be the very demographic in which he remains weak and needs in order to truly close the deal. With them, Obama needs to further deflate the question of race on his own terms, then he also needs to assure them that it is okay and not too risky to 'retire' the Clintons (e.g. a vote for me is not a vote against the Clintons). With or without Edwards he'll need to achieve this, but it would be a hell of a lot easier with Edwards.

On the other hand, if Edwards endorses Hillary, it is probably less of a gain for her than it would be for Obama. And I for one would find it a confirmation of hypocrisy on Edwards part after he so clearly indicated that his campaign 'against the system' included her kind of politicking.

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OH. MY. GAWD!!!!!

A meeting was cancelled!!!

(Runs shrieking from the room)

Hillary must have put a voodoo spell on the meeting place.

Yeah, and John Edwards fighting for the poor and underpriveliged, truly irrelevent issues, he shouldn't even fight for those now because he isn't running for president and president is just like god and makes all of the decisions and decides to grant waivers so Chevron can dump more toxins in the Great Lakes or approve the air quality at Ground Zero or grant greater media concentration rules and stuff like that.

Koresh, what a party I belong to.

To me, it sounds very unclear.
If he cancelled the endorsement meeting, it probably means he's already decided whom to endorse. From there jumping to the conclusion that he'll endorse Clinton is just silly. It's still possible that he cancelled it because he wants to endorse Obama, and decided that therefore, there's no more point in a meeting, OR he believes that either none of them seems like a good enough candidate for him or it's too late to endorse.

Today was the moment of truth if Edwards was going to endorse Obama because if Obama takes Maryland and Virginia tomorrow without Edwards' help, why does Obama need Edwards in light of whatever price he wants for the endorsement?

On the other hand, to endorse Hillary after she loses 4 straight and possibly 2 more on Tuesday is a suicide mission. So if he is supporting Hillary his best chance is for Hillary to win at least VA tomorrow and possibly MD too, and win BIG.

He may have yet another chance to influence events at the convention, but as of now, his window of opportunity has passed.

I can't imagine Edwards asking for VP - you just don't get to be picked to run for VP twice. But he is probably asking for Attorney General (if they actually make requests so explicit).

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I dunno, maybe because he likes and respects Senator Edwards and the issues he's running on?

For party unity?

Same for Hillary and Edwards.

Just sayin.

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I like Edwards, and was sorry to see him step out of the race. The race was better off for him in it.

But an endorsement now? Either way, I guess I don't see a lot of effect.

Although I agree that it might be a positive sign for Clinton, in a sea of crappy news....

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I think Edwards endorsement may already be irrelevant.

Endorsements only count for so much anyway, and the biggest boost is if the endorser has a huge email list of supporters to give away. I doubt Edwards list is that big.

And Edwards voters have had weeks already to figure out on their own who to support with him out of the race, and many if not most of those voters have already gone to the voting booth by now.

Who the hell knows what this all means.

I have a hard time seeing Edwards endorse Hillary, but stranger things have happened. Despite the health care differences, I still think Obama would deliver a presidency closer to what Edwards wants than Hillary, the ultimate incrementalist, would. Besides, if your cause is ending poverty, why would you endorse a candidate who strongly supported welfare reform and certainly isn't proposing to undo it?

Also, I attended the Obama rally at the University of Maryland today and it seemed to me that he has adopted a more populist tone that is in sync with Edwards main campaign message, albeit with a little less red meat.

I would be shocked if either Obama or Clinton wasn't willing to give him the AG, HHS or HUD secretary positions if he wanted one. But I don't see him agreeing to be on anyone's ticket. I'm sure once was enough for him.

As an Edwards supporter, I think I speak for the most loyal of his crowd when I say we favor no endorsement of anybody; he should release his delegates. The general feeling is that it would be hypocritical to support either of them unless for some reason heaven and earth depended on it---and I have to agree his endorsement probably doesn't matter.

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Endorsements hardly matter, even if one is from Edwards. While Edwards is popular in blogosphere, I doubt many people may be willing to shift from Obama to Hillary.

Well, there are some who think it matters---not me---but others.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080211/cm_thenation/1283443_1

With Texas just ahead I think Obama would gladly take a Richardson endorsement over Edwards. Richardson is a front runner kind of guy and I think before Texas we will see him endorse Obama.
My feeling all along is he was getting ready to endorse him before Bill Clinton came into town and I think convinced him to at least delay the endorsement.


As a former Edwards supporter, I now support Obama, so an Edwards endorsement wouldn’t affect my vote, but i think he should now endorse obama.

I do think an endorsement of Obama helps further solidify Obama’s progressive change credentials; a Clinton endorsement might seem opportunistic.

I also think that Edwards’ support is fragmented among at least three candidates: his progressive change message to Obama; his economic populism message– which crosses party lines to include some white conservative huckabee-like populists split between obama and clinton, and some even going to Huck. Finally, folks concerned about the details of Edwards health care policy are likely to go to Clinton, because their proposals almost match. The issue of mandates here is likely to scrape some edwards supporters away from obama.

should he endorse? sure. the obama wave is continuing to swell and edwards would do well by his message, supporters and himself to going with this flow.

I join the chorus that believes edwards would make a terrific AG!

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Amazing --- reading tea leaves indeed. As soon as the time and place of the meeting became public, it was obvious they were going to have to change it. It's a meeting, not a media event. I suspect that the next thing we hear is that the meeting has already taken place with no new announcement before then.

And I do hope that Edwards is endorsing Sen. Obama *and* is willing and able to get on the ground in Texas and Ohio among the voters who are most hesitant about Obama. He doesn't need help tomorrow (knock wood); he *does* need help in Texas and Ohio and Edwards is a very good one to give it. Still very hopeful.