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Civil Rights Icon John Lewis Switches Super-Delegate Vote From Hillary To Obama

This is big news, and may well be the beginning of the end for Hillary Clinton's super-delegate strategy. The New York Times reports that Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), a legend of the civil rights movement who had endorsed Hillary last year, is switching his super-delegate vote from her over to Barack Obama.

Lewis stopped short of formally switching his endorsement over to Obama, but said he would make a decision on that matter within a few days. Lewis also said that he and other lawmakers would meet soon to decide just how they should involve themselves in the nomination fight — and he cited the super-delegate battle as a pitfall that could weaken the party's hopes this Fall.

In short, it looks like the Hillary campaign probably can't count on the super-delegates to save them, should they lose out in the elected delegate race. So if it becomes clear that Obama ends up with an insurmountable lead — or Hillary, for that matter — there could be a strong message from super-delegates that the loser has to concede defeat and close up shop.


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He was a leader then and he is a leader now.

Very pleasant surprise.

Just the beginning. Many more to come.

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So much for voting early....

He's not alone. Roz Samuels switches too

I think this is a good thing. What I'd like to see is them get to super-delegate parity, and then the rest of the supers stop endorsing, and let the "pledged" lead and the total lead be one and the same...so we can get clarity on who is and isn't ahead.

Wow. Everyone here is a lot more forgiving than me. His move is not all that couragous. Couragous would have been sticking by Obama at the Selma anniversary as his instincts told him to do. Instead, he caved to the persuasion of B. Clinton. Again. Even now he's not commiting to an endorsement. At least not until Obama proves himself in Wisconsin. (Again)

Great. Glad to have him on board. Just not going to call it brave. It's as safe as politics gets when 10 days after your district completely rejects your chosen candidate you come out in favor of the other guy. Artur Davis, on the other hand, is a brave guy. He deserves more credit.

Yeah. I was pissed at him earlier when he backed Clinton, but that's the type of guy he is. Back in the 60's he left SNCC because of Stokley Carmichael. He's always been a guarded type of guy. Better late than never.

This is just the crack in the dam.

More like a dam finger in the crack, Mr. Hoffa!

Apres Lewis, the deluge? He's definitely a superdelegate of enough stature that he can provide cover for other supers looking to balk.

As reported earlier around here, Rep. David Scott (D-GA) switched from Clinton to Obama today as well. And, according to AP, "two other superdelegates, Sophie Masloff of Pennsylvania and Nancy Larson of Minnesota, are uncommitted, having dropped their earlier endorsements of Clinton."

Oops, and Christine "Roz" Samuels, who switched over this morning. So, for the day:

Pledged:

Clinton +2 (14-12, New Mexico)

Super:

Obama +3
Clinton -5

All these so called super delegates are actually just super wimpy! They are supposed to lift her up, but instead they are cavering and letting her down with a thud. Mr. Lewis is a traitor and he will get his dew from Mr. Clinton.

Look at it like a divorce. They just don't want to be married to her any more.

Politics is a tough business. The Clintons of all people know that.

He is following his constituents as his his duty as an elected official. He should not have pledged so early to begin with.

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Lewis is one of the very few politicians in Atlanta, let alone Georgia with any shred of credibility. Off and on, he was my Congressman when I lived in Atlanta. He beat the corrupt Maynard Jackson machine to get his seat in Congress and is very popular in Congress on both sides of the aisle. He's not impulsive or thoughtless. He's a person of real integrity unlike the highly compromised Andrew Young, the crazy Cynthia McKinney, or Georgia's hopeless and corrupt GOP leaders. His switch to Obama will have real impact.

What this is likely to do is freeze many uncommitted supers from committing to Hillary until she starts showing some real electoral success.

As for opening the floodgates, we will see. But the Obama supers are not going to experience ANY pressure to switch to Clinton while he has the pledged delegate lead. However, Lewis has made it perfectly acceptable for any Clinton supers in Obama states and congressional districts to jump ship. That is where the action could come from.

What kind of dew will Mr. Clinton get him? Mountain Dew, perhaps?

There were a lot of superdelegates who were reluctant to support Obama because they didn't think he had a chance in hell of winning. Some remained non-commital, some went with Clinton. Now that it looks like Obama might win, you'll see a lot more people jumping on the bandwagon before it pulls away.

No, that's not particularly courageous but, unfortunately, that's politics.

Given the situation in the Clinton camp right now, I'm guessing Mt. Dew CODE RED.

Thanks, I'll be here all night, be sure to tip your waiters.

HRC needs to fold the tent and go home to Arkansas.

You mean New York, not Arkansas.

The snow is balling.

I just read on CNN a story about superdelegates switching from Clinton to Obama with the headline "Black Superdelegates Reassess Clinton." In the story, it talks about 4 SDs, 2 black, 2 white (and not only white, old white women too, Hillarys best demo). Whats up with that title then?? (Shout out to The Field for noticing that one)

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Nothing to see here, people. Move along!

John Lewis is an activist, so he doesn't count anyway.

Suprise, Suprise, another African-American voting along racial lines. Colin Powell says he may vote Democratic this year Is he voting for Hillary? No. Does he all of a sudden agree with Democratic principals? No. So, the reason is?

The virtual gang rape continues. This is a disgrace.

They just do not like women, Mr. Bull. Maybe they are even trying to make her cry again!!

In honor of Mr. Lewis, I make yet another donation to Sen. Obama's campaign!!!

Couldn't have said it better myself. Definitely not a profile in courage.

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Greg, whenever I begin thinking that you are a completely biased, Hillary-centric partisan hack I see a post like this and I realize that... you've changed your name to Eric Kleefeld.

I prefer this sort of reporting. Thanks, Eric Kleefeld. Greatness is in your future.

virtual gang rape?

I thought it was Obama supporters who were supposed to be unhinged...

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Eric el. al,

Word now, sadly, is that he's not switching, only mulling one.

I just saw that too.

The horse is out of the barn to use a cliche. Getting it back in will prove to be much more difficult.

There is no good way to backtrack from that quote.

Here's the problem. Look at the bottom of the NYT story.

"Additional reporting by Scott Templeton, Baltimore Sun"

Isn't that the guy covering the biter in Baltimore?

Each time I look at the electoral competition between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, I see a distinction that political science experts are missing. Has anyone noticed that Hillary Clinton is running a political campaign to become president? On the other hand, Barack Obama has started a movement that allows the average citizen to assist in his success. If he wins, we all win. This contest will allow us to see if a movement defeats a political campaign. Historically, it has! However, Hillary Clinton pales by comparison. She's invested five million dollars of her own money in her campaign because there aren't enough supporters to assist her in running for president. It's true that Barack Obama will become the first African-American president. Has anyone noticed that his style of campaigning is equally important and historic? The last time I ever heard of a movement of this magnitude is when I read about Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Pres. John F. Kennedy; then, Sen. Barack Obama comes along. When the people are behind you you can challenge the king. We're seeing Hillary Clinton's campaign being tossed aside by a movement. Has anyone listened to the language, "Nothing can stand in the way of a million voices calling out for change. Yes, we can." Gotta love it!

The machine owes this to Mrs. Clinton, after all that she and Mr. Clinton have done. Mr. upstart smartypants can just sit down and get in line and wait his turn. Haven't you ever heard of letting a lady go first and where are your manners? We owe this to her. Clintons 2008!!!

OWE? This is a democracy, not a dynasty, a free nation, not a kingdom. For you to sit there and actually say anyone is OWED elected office is simply appalling.

Listening to excerpts of a Clinton speech on the news the other day, I turned to my wife and said "it's all me, me, me." She paused, and knew exactly what I meant. Clinton talks about how "i'm ready" "I'm tested" "I have this policy" "I will bring universal health care," etc. Obama is all "we, we, we." We are all in this together, we are one nation, we can change politics.

It is a striking difference.

Mitch

I want you to sit down and be quiet now... let Mrs. Clinton speak for a change!

According to the Atlanta Journal Constitution Online, Lewis has said that his super delegate vote WILL go to Obama. It is only the full endorsement that he is mulling.

Thanks for the clarification.

Again I ask the question: Are there any supers who were Obama committed that switched to Hillary? Snark aside, are there any? I can't find any.

I don't see too many switching from him to her right now. Most of them signed on when it wasn't too likely he'd win so I imagine they knew what they were signing up for. Many of the Clinton supers though did this while she was 20 points up in all the polls so I don't see them as being as loyal.

That's a reprint of the same Zeleny/Healy story, tho'.

The Atlanta Journal Constitution article was updated at 10:50 p.m. February 14, 2008.

I live in Lewis' Congressional District, and the howling here among his constituents about his support of Hillary has been getting louder and louder. There is overwhelming support here for Obama, and I do believe that Lewis will endorse Obama---and sooner, rather than later.

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he's my congressman here in atlanta. i'm very pleased about this.

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It's my impression that had bill clinton not tried to split the black community prior to SC, race as such might not have backfired as an issue "against" the clintons. I don't think the black community started out totally in Obama's corner. Not till SC. But the "backlash" against bill's remarks has led to a communal distancing from the clintons. I do believe that the black community is so energized in favor of Barak Obama, at this point, that we are going to see a deluge of voters and political energy getting out the vote - and this switch away from Hillary is coming from the voters who want "change."

It's a beautiful thing to see people exercising their voices together - for change.

I guess Super Delegates are not as "Automatic" as Mr.Penn wanted us to believe after all.

I agree with one of the earlier postings- I hope media doesn't depict this as Black shift. And I hope enough SD's will break away from Hillary, before an ugly narrative takes over.

BTW SEIU Endorsement is almost certain according to Politico- it's time for Edwards to endorse Barack.

I guess Super Delegates are not as "Automatic" as Mr.Penn wanted us to believe after all.

HAHA charade you are, Ms. Clinton! My internet superhero quoted above has seen through your dastardly plans and exposed them with supreme wit.

Have any of you ever been denied a post due to a limit? What is up with that?

Maybe you are alluding to another contest, a contest Mrs. Clinton might have a better shot at winning:

Dewmocracy (officially written by PepsiCo as DEWmocracy) is a campaign launched by Mountain Dew, with spokesman Forest Whitaker on November 7, 2007. It is an interactive game on its own domain that encourages users to vote for the next flavor of Mountain Dew that will make its debut on shelves in 2008.

(Wikipedia)

Maybe in 2009, we will be drinking Diet Clinton Dew? Or Moutain Dew: Code Clinton? All in all, I would trust her as president of this beverage.

I will raise my drinky to that, Mr. little black prop. What we need is a little more dewing(!) and a little less talk talk talking! A little more chit and a lot less chat -- that's where it's at! If Chelsea gulps one down on the Hallmark Channel, the sky is the limit; I am calling my broker. Thanks again. Clintons 2008!!

It's good to hear that he changed his vote after listening to his constituents complain. The one thing that I think rankles nearly everyone about the superdelegates is that they are elected officals who are responsible to the people who elected them, but seem to be able to cast their votes with total disregard for the interests of those people.

Lewis seems to be an example of the system working. Joe Lieberman is probably a good example of how it doesn't. I hope there are more Lewises in the mix than Liebermans (although I understand he personally is out).

I can totally understand why he went for Clinton. A lot of the 60s-era Civil Rights fighters (especially from Georgia) probably didn't think they'd live to see a black president. Lewis may have thought Obama would have a shot after a few more years of someone like Clinton roughing up the opposition. Seeing Obama crush the opposition in so many states and pick up crossover Republican votes in the bargain must have been jawdropping.

It's still possible for either candidate to win a nailbiter, but I hope that if it is close, the supers will be forthcoming about why they voted the way they did. If someone takes it by 22 votes, everyone needs to be confident that no more than 21 of them were payoffs. The worst case scenario for this entire election is that it turns out to be 23. The Republicans are flat on the mat and the count is starting. The Democrats can't afford to let them up again.

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John Lewis is a bellweather for not only the civil rights movement (black and white), but for the Afro-American South. He is a man whose voice and vote counts.

And thank God he's going for Obama (which I am too, even though I'm a senior, white, atheist man from California). Obama will represent us all, black, white, Southern, Northern, Eastern, and Western well.

I don't think that Obama is perfect (I was first for the populist campaign of John Edwards), but then I'm not perfect either. However, I do like Obama's optimism, his hope for our future, and his openness to change. Plus, I like the fact that he was against the stupid, bloody, and expensive War on Iraq from the git-go (unlike the calculating, triangulating Hillary who has yet to apologize for giving George W. Bush the power to start the War on Iraq.) She can cry all she wants about the Bush Administration's incompetence, but she gave these yahoos the go-ahead to f*ck up the Middle East. And I can't forgive her for that.

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Guess Lewis finally got tired of pretending to be Hillary's black friend. I'm sure his supporters going overwhelmingly for Obama, and not being fooled by his praise of her, had little to do with it. I guess that's why we have democracy, because leaders often need to be led. Oh well, better late than never.

This is sure an interesting study in machine politics. Why did Lewis ever think Hillary was his best bet to begin with? For her and Bill's stellar record on black issues? Pulease.

Who ultimately got most screwed by NAFTA and financial deregulation? Poor white, brown, and of course black workers at the bottom of the totem pole, that's who. Those struggling to get into the middle class, while losing good labor jobs, being hit with huge credit and banking fees, soaring energy prices, pension funds going belly up, and the housing market imploding, and so on. All of which the Clintons contributed to making worse, directly and indirectly, by the Clintons and DLC passing supply side economics and deregulation throughout the 90s.

Machine politics encourage people to become risk adverse and trade on their past accomplishments and personal loyalties while accepting passive roles in safe positions. Even people like John Lewis, who has been another casualty in the politics of cynicism.

It's the same in business as companies tend to become less innovative with success, or in the media as journalists (and bloggers for that matter) start phoning it in over time.

THAT is what needs to change. No more anti-competitive duopoly. Not in politics. Not in media. Not in business.


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btw, for the record, he hasn't actually switched yet. So make sure this is actually a switch, and not a bait and switch.

Also, Kleefeld is getting a bit ahead of himself.

The way to make sure SDs don't throw the nomination is to continue to keep the pressure on. Lewis is only making this announcement becasue he's feeling the heat.

If the public wasn't paying attention to SDs, he'd still be quietly in Hillary's column.

Also, he's from a community which is going overwhelmingly for Obama 90/10 and holding his feet to the fire. It's pretty hard to throw your vote against 90% of your constituants.

But, to extrapolate that SD's coming from more white 60/40 districts will do the same, is Kleefeld being optimistic. Counting chickens before they're hatched and all.

As soon as the public lets the pressure off SDs, machine politics will kick in and the Clinton's will start cashing chits to buy votes. Don't let up.

Hillary really IS in the solutions business. We needed a solution to a potential scorched earth effort by Hillayr and BAM, the solution sorta delivers itself!

This Story is really interesting!
http://www.spymac.com/details/?2344115

This is fantastic news and surely a sign of the times, too. Obama alone has the potential both to motivate the base *and* to bring new voters (be they genuinely new to the process or merely the sort of Indies/Republicans who reject McCain and Hillary for whatever reasons) into the fold. If we have the good sense to nominate him, we may very well witness the most commanding Democratic presidential victory in recent political history. An Obama nomination is a gamble, but not in the crass sense that Bill clumsily invoked pre-South Carolina. It's a gamble in the sense that we, as Dems, would finally (finally!) select a candidate with his own apparent gut sense of how best to frame potentially divisive issues in a way that puts progressive solutions in the best possible light.

The more I observe this primary season unfold, the more convinced I become that the generational factor (both w/r/t Obama-Clinton and Obama-McCain) is both a bigger and a lesser deal than some national pundits make it out to be. Bigger in the sense that some older Democrats, the ones who have been in the trenches long enough to grow a cynical shell after decades of disappointment from pledging their authentic allegiance to that essentially reactive, passive, and largely disunited "coalition" of interest groups known as the contemporary Democratic Party. Members of this group are good Democrats, some have even busted their butts at the local and state levels to get Democratic candidates into office wherever possible. The only paradigm of Democratic success (at the national level) they've ever witnessed or participated in -- i.e., The Clintons -- (save for the truly Old Guard, who represent a subset of this group) is seemingly imploding before their eyes: the arguable race-baiting, the revolving door of shady-at-best folks with which the candidate has surrounded herself, the appearance of aloofness and casual entitlement that drives so many of us absolutely bonkers when embodied by our current President, and the inability to craft and then hone a simple, appealing, yet principled core message with said President wallowing in the lowest approval rating of his or just about anyone else's White House tenure and with the nation facing bankruptcy and international disdain.

In short: members of this group, in my opinion, are as furious about the mess the next President will be handed, and -- as I myself was until relatively recently -- they want blood. And justifiably so. Ask 'em: they'll show you the political bruises they sustained in the protracted partisan battles that were emblematic of Bill's tenure as President. They remember how slimy and ruthless the GOP operatives (and their media-minions) behaved in the run-up to impeachment as well as the run to a counter-productive, ill-advised war. The generic model or frame here is vengeance, pure and simple. This is not to judge: in a righteous world, Bush would be behind bars for his arguably willful ignorance and the criminal behavior of his advisors, and I couldn't agree more. The specific model or frame is combat, battle: but more precisely, the gladiatorial games, with two opponents pitching their hopes of survival and success on their respective abilities to eradicate their opponent before being cut down themselves.

This is becoming a novel, so I'll wrap up. The Obama folks, at least on this generational argument, either didn't share the same formative experiences as the former group, or they *did* and have subsequently rejected them, floundering for a candidate willing to espouse an alternative model or frame. NOT in the interest of mealy-mouthed capitulation or centrist resignation, but in the interest of reframing the "battle" over the executive branch as a game requiring a different strategic approach. And I'm not just talking about 51+% vs 50-state approaches, either. Obama is suggesting -- albeit implicitly -- that we Dems and fellow lefties start approaching national politics with a chess metaphor instead of a wrestling or gladiatorial metaphor. Demographics are changing before our very eyes. The GOP is in its weakest position since Newt went and dumped a cancer-ridden wife and contracted a Cataract with America. The nation is facing challenges that rival the biggest its historically faced. And the current leading candidate for the Democratic party has the foresight to know that crafting a true Democratic majority -- one with the power to enact legislation, confirm progressive judges, and restore our standing in the world while protecting us all from harm -- is going to take the sort of strategy that involves less toe-to-toe combat and more crafty measures. It's not craven. It's pragmatic and idealistic: arguably the two virtues that best embody what America used to think were its representative attributes.

The Clinton-backers aren't wrong. They're just committed to a prior way of doing business. One that this observer thinks hasn't served us or progressive causes very well at all. The clamor for change isn't as vacuous as some make out: it's a recognition, even if only at gut-level, that the way we (Dems specifically, Americans generally) have been approaching how the federal government should and can operate has failed us. The shorthand Obama and his surrogates employ signals this potential shift in frame, but I want to suggest this shift in frame is really a shift in (party) strategy. And I suspect it'll work, and I believe it's goddamn brilliant. But the "hope" meme that's in danger of being ground to a meaningless pulp is key: we Dems have to be willing to take that leap of faith for it to happen. The Obama appeal to hope is as carefully crafted (again, not in a craven but a sensible way) as is his appeal to change. Reading between the lines, he's asking us to hope -- and trust -- that the Democratic Party can demand more from itself. But as William James (another pragmatic idealist if ever there were one) pointed out so many years ago: some propositions are such that, if we fail to believe in their potential efficacy before attempting to put them into practice, we are highly unlikely to succeed.

The Democratic Party must find its collective Will to Believe.

And then, we must get to work.

So who is playing the race card now? Perhaps it's Congressman Jackson. I find these threats disheartening, what has happened to our party? Your word means nothing it's all about your race. Then should all white women switch to Clinton. What will Sen. MacCaskil do? Jackson is making Obama "the black candidate", I thought that was something to be avoided. Telling John Lewis that he doesn't want to be the last person standing between Obama (one of their own) and the Presidency. This is despicable. His race baiting is appalling and he should be taken to task. How are we ever to overcome if it isn't about the content of your character, but about the color of your skin? Is this like Chris Rock saying "you don't want to standing with the white lady"?

Clinton is unlucky to have run at the same time as Obama. She has planned this for a long time. Set it up as can't lose. But it seems someone like Obama comes along once in a generation (some would suggest not that often).
That said, I see him as a one term president. He won't likely be forgiven for the sins of the current administration that get put upon the next.

'nuf said.

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Years ago, I used to enjoy those little bottom of the page anecdotal or pithy quotations printed at the bottom of the pages in the Readers' Digest magazine.

Two of them were so reflective of common sense wisdom that they have stayed in my mind now for nearly half a century. I can only imperfectly paraphrase those two, but I think both do apply to the phenomenon we are watching in this democratic primary. Here are the two, as best I remember:

1] "Always react 'yes' to a new idea, and try to think of as many reasons as you can why its a good idea.....because there will always be plenty of people to tell you why it won't work."
[Think of this one relating to dismissals of Obama's message]

2] Two friends, 'A' and 'B' walk up to a street corner newstand where friend 'A' wants to buy a certain publication. The newstand vendor is really snide, surly and unhelpful to the calm repeated request by 'A' for that publication, and finally the vendor just slaps the publication down in front of 'A' in a final ugly gesture.
As 'A' and 'B' walk away, 'B' exclaims to 'A', "Why did you let him get away with that?"
'A' answers, "If he wants to act like that, that's his choice, but I'm not going to let him decide how I behave."
[Think of this one relative to dealing with ugly politicking]

'A' answers, "If he wants to act like that, that's his choice, but I'm not going to let him decide how I behave."

That's classical stoicism in a nutshell. It's a wise teaching, but taken to an extreme can breed (political and/or personal) resignation. The archetypal stoic virtue was "apathy" -- not in our current sense, more like "knowing detachment" -- but the abuse of this principle led to the sense of "apathy" as we understand it today.

Relevance to this thread? Zero. But I have no control over how you all will respond, so it cannot affect my well-being. :)

I think the really interesting thing going on as we enter the home stretch is that, with Black support at 90% for Obama and Latte Liberals support very high, those factions have decided to go all in to take control of the party from the Clintons. Latte liberals have nothing to lose if she wins the pot. Black politicians have a lot to lose. When these little coups fail, the line of politicians with their hats in their hands gets pretty long outside the winner's office.

OK, I'll bite.

What, pray tell, is a "Latte Liberal"?

It's amazing how much disdain the Obama camp has for superdelegates and yet they lust after them. Remember three words: Ohio Texas Pennsylvania
The winds always change direction!!!

Again:

Yeah, disloyalty, going back on your word, and finger-to-thr-wind political bandwagon jumping are such admirable traits.

Maybe John Lewis and Hillary's black congressional "supporters" should make sure McCain's not looking like he may win it first before coming out so strongly for another Democrat.

No politics-as-usual or racial pandering to see here. Move along.

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I've asked this question a couple of times, and I have yet to get a response. For all of you crowing about Lewis 'listening to his constituents," I presume you'd encourage Kerry, Kennedy and Patrick, as well as the supers from New York and California, to back Hillary?

As an Obama supporter, I wish that you would fix the headline on this thread. Mr. Lewis has not announced that he will switch to supporting Senator Obama, so how can you post that he has. Let us deal in facts please. This thread title is wrong. Correct it.

Fix the headline?

This is an old headline for an old thread, from yesterday.

Here is a new thread with a new headline:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/times_reporter_reiterates_lewi.php

I think this is a quote from Gandhi, and I'm doing it from memory, but it comes to mind in reflecting on Lewis' movement and others sure to follow:

"There go my people. I must follow them, for I am their leader."

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