bill and hillary were good, but their time is past.
if you want to see the hopeful future ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eibqI6p1MBw

There is no need for a mea culpa trip since he did nothing wrong in the first place. Perhaps the media should take his place and explain why anything that the Clintons have said is being decried as "racist" when it is not. The media needs to explain its actions more than Bill ever has to.

Pathetic! "I'm sorry, so sorry.. Please accept my apology. I was so blind... ( for trying a racial tactic to try to marginalize Obama as a Jesse Jackson "black" candidate.........) Please don't hold it against Hillary by voting for Obama! Please, please, please..... "

What a fallen, degraded, diminished person he has become! He should go do charity quietly and atone for himself.

bill and hillary were good, but their time is past. if you want to see the hopeful future ...

Yes, yes, hopeful future, no looking to the past, let's move forward with...the Kennedys?

This reminds me of GWB going on his apology tour after he got what he needed by speaking at Tom Jones U. in SC.

This country is on a downward trajectory. Yes, a Clinton presidency would slow it, but that's all the first one did. We need a transformational period - and the Clinton's are all about themselves.

If Clinton wins the nomination, it will lead to a very close victory for her in teh fall, with Democrats remaining about the same in Congress. Then we'll have pitched battles for four years, with some minor wins, a better judiciary, and the Congress returning to Republic Control. It's what happened the first time - what's different now?

The Billary 08 campaign made a cold calculated decision to put the race card into a primary race against a fellow democratic candidate.

Yeah I know... "it was a mistake" maybe "it was unintended..."

The truth is that the Billary Clinton 08 yes Hillary & Bill Clinton knew exactly what they were doing... to heck with the consequenses we'll roll out our old faithful dnc friends to help us spin this around for us.... Billary will say and do anything to win this race.

Nice that he is mending fences. Of course, this effort is unlikely to generate any Clinton votes.

By the way, two key California legislators--Maxine Waters from the Los Angeles area and Ron Dellums, up in Oakland, have endorsed Clinton. I suspect both carry far more weight than the Kennedys among the Black community, which is only 7% of California's population.

But, this is a positive press and campaign tour for the Clintons, with lots of media coverage for them. Like I said in my first post, a win-win for them and, again, who was Obama and where's he at?

So when will Baqrack be going on HIS apology tour? Some women are gonna be less than pleased with this . . . . read on.

I'll assume you all know of Obama's mailer attack on Clinton's health care plan, where a penniless couple are sitting in the kitchen deeply worried about a government demand for payment of compulsory insurance coverage. The line is this is what Clinton will do to you. Pretty dirty.

Then today came this hate-speech from a senior advisor and spokesman for Obama. Funny how the only media outlet that seemed to carry it was the LA Times. Now what does that say about the press? Can you imagine what they'd have done had a Clinton advisor made similar statements about Obama's color or ethnicity?

OBAMA CAMPAIGN SAVAGES CLINTON OVER CRYING AND HER AGE

"(OBAMA) DOESN'T GO ON TELEVISION AND HAVE CRYING FITS. HE ISN'T DISCOVERING HIS VOICE AT THE AGE OF 60."

For today's Los Angeles Times . . . . .

The Times' Peter Wallsten has the details on the pointed remarks made by the Obama counselor, retired Air Force Gen. Merrill "Tony" McPeak.

"(Obama) doesn't go on television and have crying fits. He isn't discovering his voice at the age of 60." ****

McPeak had more to say in a similarly dismissive tone . .

………………………………………………………..

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/obama-clinton-b.html#more

jdwinterbottom, thanks for showing us how to truly grasp at straws. A Clinton adviser compares an Obama healthcare mailer to "Nazis marching through Skokie", but you expect the nation to get all up in arms about that?

McPeek should apologize, not Obama. On the other hand, Bill Clinton actually said the offending things, so he should apologize. Not sure why you don't understand that, but again, perhaps the strain you're exerting grasping for those straws caused you to close your eyes.

Going for My Second Choice
　　
　　 In presidential elections, voters have two kinds of candidates from
whom to choose: leaders and managers. There are leaders who lead the public
along somewhat unknown paths, and there are managers who take care of well-
understood state affairs. Leaders lead the masses toward the future, while
managers follow the public interest. It would be ideal if we could find
someone who combines both qualities, like another FDR. But more often you
get one or the other, or even end up with neither, like we did with the
current occupant of the White House.

　　 This year, we Democrats are facing exactly those two choices. Mr. Obama
has shown his leadership ability by telling voters that he represents "HOPE
," while Mrs. Clinton has shown her eagerness to manage by reminding voters
of her resumé, or her "EXPERIENCE."

　　 Mr. Obama says Mrs. Clinton is a product of the "same old" Washington,
which many voters loathe and desire fervently to change.

　　 Ms. Clinton, on the other hand, calls herself a "work horse" as opposed
to a "show horse," implying that she will work hard to take care of the
people’s business while Mr. Obama, who makes voters feel good, may do less
than this.

　　 As a voter, I want a leader. I believe that most of the nation, after
eight years of Bush, shares my hunger. The massive turnout of Obama voters
demonstrates such an attitude. However, there is a little voice in my head
that cautions me against rushing into giving Mr. Obama my vote.

　　 Natural leaders possess qualities different from those of capable
managers. While management is learned, leadership requires charisma, a
quality with which one is born. Natural leaders inspire the masses, and
convince the latter – often without much effort – to follow a misty path
into the future. Leaders promise rainbows on the horizon, and engender
collective excitement for a journey to the unknown.

　　 I have to confess that I am a real sucker for grandiose sentiment. I
always cry at such points when I watch movies. As a historian, however, and
as a person who was both a witness to, and a victim of, the Chinese
communist revolution, I have known too many leaders who were adored by their
people even as they were leading them down the road to hell. They usually
mesmerized their followers with great speeches before pushing their
countries into a state of extreme fear before destroying them. So I feel I’
ve got good reason to be cautious.

　　 Of course I am not comparing Mr. Obama to Mao or any other such hellish
leaders. But it’s the following that gives me pause:

　　 First, I am extremely uncomfortable with Mr. Osama’s status as a media
darling. The press has been among his biggest cheerleaders. While every
move Mrs. Clinton makes has been subject to intense – and usually negative-
scrutiny, Mr. Obama gets away with his behavior that would normally raise a
red flag in other candidates, such as his past drug use or his long-time
smoking habit. I think perhaps the media have kept the gloves on out of fear
of being accused of prejudice. If that’s true, it is an approach that is
no less bigoted. And ironically, it only goes to validate Ms. Clinton's
claim that Mr. Obama is untested, since the media refuse to turn up the heat
and test him.

　　 Second, I am bothered by Mr. Obama's inspirational speeches, which,
while charming, ultimately provide relatively little substance. I have been
trying hard to find concrete policies in his discussions of issues like
health care, Social Security and the need for an economic stimulus. It’s
not that he doesn’t touch on these subjects; it’s just hard to figure out
how his words and slogans will translate into policies. Perhaps I am just
unimaginative, but I don’t feel Mr. Obama has given me enough here.

　　 Third, I need more than repeated speeches about "HOPE" and "CHANGE," I
want to know the real Barack Obama, not the one who has been carefully
shaped by his “handlers.”. Before giving him my vote, he needs to give me
well-thought answers to questions like what he will rely on when facing
difficult situations, or what his greatest weaknesses are and how he intends
to overcome them. "Helping old ladies cross the street" may a cute answer,
but it is somewhat disingenuous and can hardly be translated into leadership
quality.

　　Finally, Mr. Obama has yet to prove to my satisfaction his authenticity
as a leader. I haven't heard anything from him that is not poll-driven or
that carries all the rough edges of original ideas that might be unpopular
but that could be good policy. Talking about the "same-olds," do we really
want old wine in a new bottle?

　　Ms. Clinton, in fact, has revealed her weaknesses by implying that she
is not a show horse. She is, indeed, not very good at giving people circuses
, but I think she is capable of providing them with bread. In that sense,
she is proven by her Senate record. In other words, she has shown qualities
of a good manager.

　　I realize that I have been a little unfair to Mr. Obama, since Ms.
Clinton has also shown a less than admirable side. But as I said at the
beginning, a manager is my first choice only when a leader is absent.
Moreover, I hold leaders to a higher standard of virtue than managers, since
I expect such a leader to lead the nation in Directions that are sometimes
unknown. I do not want to be led to a Brave New World.

　　The favorite theme of the 2008 election seems to be CHANGE. Change is
hardly new, of course. We change every day, for better or worse. Mr. Obama
surely has no monopoly on the intention to change or the capacity for change
. In light of the Bush disaster, virtually all the candidates from both
parties are calling for change. But what are we going to change into?

　　In many aspects, I actually want to change BACK to the "same old." I
want the new occupant of the White House to reverse the erosion of our civil
liberties, to rebuild our tattered international image, to re-establish
fiscal discipline, to help us regain confidence to our market economy, and
to revitalize our spirit of entrepreneurship. Such "same olds" have
represented "HOPE" for many people in the world for so long, even after
President Bush messed up everything. If you don't believe me, just go to any
poor country and see the long lines for visa application in front of the U.
S. consulates.

　　I, too, hope that the new Administration will change the Washington
bureaucracy. Having worked in Washington for ten years, I greatly resent the
inefficiency, mediocrity, wastefulness, and indifference of our government
to the needs of our people. Even though I am a registered Democrat,
President Reagan's criticism of government bureaucracy still rings true for
me. Yet, it takes both audacity and experience even to begin to deal with
this monstrous organism. The process of reforming the bureaucracy will be
messy, unpleasant and painful. We all hope for a quick fix, but it will take
someone with years of experience just to untangle the problems.

　　To sum up, both Mr. Obama and Ms. Clinton are untested leaders. Unlike
Mr. Obama, however, Ms. Clinton is a tested manager. That is why I am
inclined to vote for her. To be honest, I don't enjoy aiming for a second
choice. Like most Americans, I’d rather choose a genuine leader. But until
a candidate shows me that he/she possesses leadership qualities, I am going
for my second choice.

Mattie, hillaryis44.org. That's your site, go there. By the way, at least get the facts straight it was NEW HAMPSHIRE, not SC, but NEW HAMPSHIRE. The clintons were playing to the poor and uneducated white vote and they won. Slimy, rovian politics at its worst. I really think rove learned his trade from studying the clintons.

Yeah kefa, that's nice. The damage has been done, but whatever for the greater glory of the clintons.

Apparently, at this point in the campaign no one is going to convince anyone else of anything, including who first played the race card, when and why, and what really happened after they played it. And no one is going to convince anyone here that one candidate is better positioned than the other to take on McCain on the invasion, the occupation, Iran, and the global Islamic jihad, if he can sell that one. What we can do, I suppose, is play the politico version of fantasy football, impressing mostly ourselves with our elegance, eloquence and political acumen. No harm in that, but I for one am ready for a dose of real football, then on to the Monday night events and Super Tuesday. For what it's worth, my prediction is the Democratic nomination will come down to Texas, Ohio and, maybe, Pennsylvania. Enjoy!

I really think rove learned his trade from studying the clintons.

Michael A: I have been following with increasing distress your accelerating exodus from sanity. You have been sounding more and more rabid, even demented, with each passing day. Have your doctor increase the dose on your meds or, better yet, take some time off. You are teetering on the edge of Lalaland...

Thought you might want to know...

Where's Obama? Yesterday he was in MN slamming McCain for flip flopping on Bush's tax cuts to an overflow crowd. Today doing the same in ID to an even bigger crowd. 6000 yesterday in two oveflow halls, 14000 today.

Where's Bill? Getting ready to apologize to black voters in S. Central tomorrow. I guess those black voters Hillary didn't need are all of a sudden important to her again. Oh well at least he's not in Kazakstan or Ukraine cozying up to murderous goons in return for multi million dollar checks for his Fort Knox/library/mausoleum in AR.

** NewsFlash ** TPM needs to update the whole

Billary "Mea Culpa Tour"

Mr Clinton will make NO APOLOGY for anything that has been said on the campaign trail to anyone...

End of Story

I hope Obama is enjoying his newsppaer endorsement. If however he had put in any real time with the Hispanic community he would know that Hispanics are much more likely to listen to respected local politicans, and a lot less likely to be swayed by newspapers or outsiders.

Several Hispanic comminuty leaders have said Obama's 'interest' is too little too late. Are you listening Barak?

Michael A... Don't you feel we need to unite?
We can still battle but be civil. You know your side played up the racist stuff because it worked for you, it was politics, be real. it won you SC, but it had it's downsides. This was it's downsides. It didn't play well for the rest of the nation. You still have the press, trying to make Iraq the issue when it's really the economy, that's how the game is played. But in the long run we as a party we need to be adults and unite and not act like babies and not suck our thumbs and get one with it and go after the Repubs.

Kefa .. Dont mean to butt in but do you think that newly registered voters and independents will jump on the "rally behind the party right or wrong" mantra"? I'm pretty sure the majority of them registered to support their candidate. These are not DNC or DLC card carrying members. If Billary wins that would be ok for the dem party. But nothing will get done... republicans will stymie the entire system.. as its doing now. The republicans hate the Clintons. If bomb bomb bomb McCain wins we just go down a little deeper into the same hole.

If Billary 08 wins the nomination; I'll take my chances and wait it out for another 4 years until America decides to change the way it wants to run the devisive politics of the past.

NOW is really the time for change but what the heck... what will be will be.

That is such BS kefa and you know it. Obama for obvious reasons was trying to avoid the racial issue like the plague. I said in my post that the clintons aren't stupid. You think obama is stupid??? Give me a break. He went to Columbia and Harvard and was president of the Harvard Law Review. He's not stupid and he knew getting into the race bs would kill his candidacy. I'm not going to go through the dates and the quotes, but it was by the clintons between iowa and new hampshire. After new hampshire, they tried to back track and it didn't work, so then they played up race to demean obama's victory in SC. It's not rocket science.

Also, no I'm not acting like a "baby and sucking my thumb." I really don't care if the clintons win the nomination again, so be it. We'll just have republican bs for 4 more years, which we've had since 1980. Big deal. I'm used to it at this point.

Now that they have succeeded in their games, "it's time to unite." Well it's not about uniting, it's about worshiping the clintons, which I'm not really into. Sorry.

MrJJ....republicans will stymie the entire system.. as its doing now. ....it will only happen if you set it out and let it happen....it's up to you.

This is the Clinton way.

Do something idiotic.
Clean up the mess later.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

But, it keeps THEM in power so what the fuck.

I am almost 45 and every Presidential election in my life has then name Clinton or Bush on the ballot. If HRC is the nominee, I could be 53 before I get a fresh shot at this presidential voting thing.

Plus ca change...

My question is will ABC News’ Jake Tapper say he's sorry for the lie on Bill Clinton.

Both my wife and I are diguested by all of the Obama supporters crap that we see. We are going to the caucuses on Tuesday for Clinton. We did favor Edwards, previously.

I am not sure what is going on with the pro-obama forces, but demeaning and insulting people and/or their candidate isn't a good way to gain favor.

Eric,

To be fair, I'd rather be disgusted by some Obama supporters on a message board than my ex-president. That show he pulled all last week in SC is going to take a long time to repair. It will likely give Hillary the nomination, but many rank and file democrats who voted for him feel betrayed by his racial triangulation.

The fact that he is stuck campaigning in places where he can't get into trouble (Arkansas?!) is proof that they know he damaged the Clinton "brand."

But they will have plenty of time to make nice. This mea culpa tour is only the beginning. They will be groveling until November. But as far as they are concerned, Mission Accomplished. I have too many years of experience with the Clintons to think otherwise.

Don't take it personally. There's plenty of mud to go around on both sides. I have read some awful stuff on all sides. Defend your candidate as best you can. I promise to do the same.

As a democrat, I am happy you are voting this Tuesday. I will be voting as well. That's democracy in action. We will be united in the fall regardless.