The interesting statistic in the poll is that McCain actually trails Romney in the Hispanic vote.

So much for Hispanics love McCain narrative.

Florida should a swing state no matter who the Repub nominee is.

Is Florida winner take all in terms of delegates or what? I mean if Mighty Mitt and McCrank split them then who cares?

I watched the State of the Union vote, and was struck by how divided the viewer reaction was, and that makes any united GOP candidate difficult,

there was deficeit concerns, retirement concerns

there was anti-torture and civil liberties concerns

there was education concerns

there was economy and jobs concerns

there were immigration concerns

And frankly an argument in a GOP household over why certain current GOP candidates failed that test.

And the surprise by one who didn't know that a Mormon was running, that a Church elder had died, and thought Mormons were methodist.

Laughing...

It was a general unhappiness with all the candidates but with a fear at the economy level that immigrants would steal jobs, ruin schools, not learn english, and that McCain was for amnesty though he did well on civil liberties and national security, best quote: he should have been secretary of defense.

Mit was like well who is he?? Well he isn't McCain or Rudy, and Rudy didn't get any points for the 911 memories.

This is really in the mid atlantic area or in my circle an anybody but McCain with blue collar Republicans anti immigration caucus, and then there is the more white collar group who is pro McCain... more cereberal and like the stances on torture he took and taking on Rumsfeld, speaking out, the maverick McCain.

I'm guessing in part the GOP is really fractured.

Between Jobs and immigration and the idea that the army should be on the US border for that invasion...

And then the civil liberties and poor management in Iraq, give McCain a chance crowd, essentially deal with the issues in a common sense advocacy less ideological in nature and centrist or pragmatic...

And nobody that damned thrilled with the economy and lots of theories why that is going bad, blame the war or blame the immigrants...

I'll say this, that if Obama wins it will be as equally as close a fight between him and McCain, but the McCain people all said that they would flip their vote to Obama if he ran against another Republican.

If McCain wins by a very narrow margin, he will continue to have to do so, all through next year.

If Mit wins, it will be the most spent by an individual, to meet a Democratic candidate, that will sweep the moderate and swing vote, in all but a few midwest states, and whom will not carry, PA, OH, FL, NY, CA.

I might toss in TX to MIT... against Obama

But it would entirely re-write the red state and blue state maps as we know them.

McCain could fight for the center ground and compete best against Obama, but as his mom said 'holding your nose and voting' will not get out the radical GOP base with money.

So Mit has the money and no middle of the road votes, McCain has the middle of the road votes but not the purse string of the GOP.

It is looking more and more like Obama will win this election this fall.

Because if Mit looses in a close election he will finance himself after FL.

It would take a subsequent Obama implosion, scandal or something.. to put Mit over Obama.

But Mit will cripple McCain on the way to that defeat.

JMHO.

The only thing everybody agreed on,

McCain should have been secretary of defense. They trust him that far, even went as far as to say if their illegal and serve, they should stay...

But nobody was thrilled with the GOP.

Oh, another thing, Dee Illiminati, this fantasy scenario you have where disgruntled Republicans defect and vote for Obama (again, under the big, big, big assumption that he wins the nomination) this fall is absolutely delusional. Where do you Obamamites get this notion? It certainly doesn't come from reading historical voting patterns.

Republicans are always like this in a tight primary race and they are often less than thrilled with their nominees. They still will vote Republican in the fall. Their like the left that rants against a restrained, moderate Democratic Congress but would not vote for the Republican opposition.

I'll give you a tip to one of their biggest charges if he wins -----

Demagoguing socialist backed by Ted Kennedy

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Angry Vet,

OK, thanks for refreshing my memory on the details. But, many Republicans were not happy with Bush I in 1988 right up until the convention. I worked with mostly Republicans at the time and watched the convention and the associated interviews. They weren't too happy with poppa Bush in 1992, either. They also weren't that crazy about Bob Dole in 1996 despite the fact that he didn't have much of a challenge.

The point is that the GOP base bitches all the time but they won't vote Democrat ---- not even for the golden boy, Obama. In fact, I'd say by the time the GE comes around (if BO wins) and the right wing finishes up their campaign, they will be especially energized to vote against Obama.

"Hillary up big in latest California poll, it's the biggest state of them all so that of course makes news on Election Centr....oops, no positive Obama news to report, move along please and don't pay attention. Nevermind."

It was a lead of over 20 points last month.

It was a lead of 15 points last week.

It's a lead of 11 points now.

Good news? GREAT NEWS!

FEEL THE OBAMAMENTUM!!

Did you even read my post?

He's narrowed a 21-point lead for Clinton into an 11 point lead. That's good news even if he doesn't wind up winning the state- it means more delegates for him, and it means people are coming around to the idea of supporting him.

HRC is up in CALi too...by 11pts and in NY state...56-28-11.

To lombard and Angry Vet

How might one ask does a voter connect to Romney and Rudy?

I mean I never saw America identifying with the skyscrappers of NYC and the vast majority of America doesn't look like that. And believe it or not America is not a corporation as Mit believes either..

To some point I can identify with Huckabee, sure he is 'hokey' Ok.. but likeable.

Identify with Ron Paul? No...

Identify with Hillary? We that is like asking for a rerun of the Bill Years without the tech bubble, or any bubble, and seems to be mixed with their brand of political snipping.

Truth be told there are only three people I think I would cast a vote for, McCain, Huckabee, and Obama

In the last election I voted Cobb in MD as I didn't like Bush and couldn't vote for Kerry. It was a none of the above vote to see how my very small precinct handled electronic counting.

So that is no fantasy scenario.

After FL rest assured 30% will be less pleased with the GOP than they are now, and that isn't saying allot.

And if you don't think the GOP is disgusted, wait until the Fred Heads are counted.

I bet he beats Paul

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HRC is way to the left of Obama.

just stating the facts.

Dee Illuminati: "Truth be told there are only three people I think I would cast a vote for, McCain, Huckabee, and Obama".

All of whom have wildly differently policies, and would lead the country in completely different directions. In other words, you're voting for personality over platform. It's this kind of mentality that led to a person people would "like to have a beer with" winning in 2000. What a success that was!