Uh, oh...I thought only race card player Billary's supporters only did such things.

/snark

Is that real? The text for the date looks way sharper than the other text.

Don't you see. This is NOT the same thing as Billary. She is evil and ugly and shrewish. Obama is good and fair. This is just so unfair of you to post this.

Keith and other Obamaniacs...

I hate to keep having to say I told you so, but...;^}

Seems like a waste of money to me. No delegates are at issue. But apparently the unions seem to think its important.

Obama & his supporters show their true colors. Weren't they complainng about Hillary doing the same.

Word Hypocrite is not in their dictionary.

Neither is Fraud, Bogus...

Keith,

When it was a Hillary ally dropping a mailer, you made fun of her and her campaign....when it's an Obama ally, you show just a little exasperation, but at "the unions."

Pretty much says it all, doesn't it?

Obama runs tv ads in Florida. Why shouldn't Hillary show up for her victory party? Or in the spirit of Obama should she snub Florida?

I for one have no problem with the Clintons playing this victory up to the hilt. With the zero delegates she receives tonight, she should catapult into the same position on the delegate count.

A far better use of her time than campaigning in one of the Feb 5th states, if you ask me.

JimS wrote on January 29, 2008 7:37 PM:
Don't you see. This is NOT the same thing as Billary. She is evil and ugly and shrewish. Obama is good and fair. This is just so unfair of you to post this.

Really Jim, get out of the Obamafog. Obama has been running tv ads for a week in Florida. Hillary is right to go down there and speak so the media will be forced to cover her win

Nycvoter:

You are attacking one of your own.

It's hard to blames either campaign for what their supporters do without their consent.

However, it's not hard to blame a campaign that has tried to legitimize the Michigan and Florida primaries. Why did she sign the pledge then? Was it for principle or politics? She knew she could win if no one campaigned and then she could afterwards and claim credit.

Of course, our media would rather talk about nonsense like that snub story rather than hold the Clinton campaign accountable for its cynical manipulation of the primary process.

I don't think that a group of Obama supporters mailing literature is any more objectionable than a group of Hillary supporters mailing literature on her behalf. It would have happened regardless -- even if Clinton never made the delegate seating an issue.

The point is broader than this. When she lost the Iowa caucus, she spend days whining about how unfair the caucus primary was. Then when it seemed that she was going to lose New Hampshire, she and her husband whined about how unfair it was to hold the primary so close to Iowa. (Miraculously, those objections disappeared once the results were in). Then after Obama got the Culinary Workers' endorsement, they whined about how unfair the at-large caucses were. (Miraculously, those objections disappeared after they won a majority of those.) Then in South Carolina, they whined about how unfair it was that so many black people were voting.

Now they're whining about how unfair it is that Florida gets no delegates.

Time after time, they've complained that anything that didn't favor her was unfair. She had ample oportunity to object to Florida; she didn't. She had ample opportunity to object to the primary scheduling. She didn't. She had ample opportunity to object to the Nevada caucus system. She didn't.

Basically, she's agreed to a set of rules and then sought to change every one of them when they were no longer in her interest.

I know. That's what the Republicans do. That's how they won Florida in 2000. And there are plenty of Democrats who believe the end justifies the means, that winning is the only principle that's important, and anything else is expendable. I just happen to think otherwise.

interesting, you didnt mention the no campaign pledge when hillary's allies were dropping lit in the story just below this one.

Keith,

You mocked Hillary when her allies dropped mailers there. You mocked "the unions" when Obama's allies dropped mailers there.

You are the quintessential, irrational, hypocritical Obamaniac. Enjoy it, embrace it. ;^}

Here's the real kicker for the Florida results:

Hillary is carrying 59% of the Hispanic vote, and 27% of the Black vote went for her , too.

Are the Obama supporters going to call THEM racists?

This does not bode well for Obama in the western states. Not at all.

And of course, everybody knows now--especially the Florida voters--that Obama LIED when he said he didn't "campaign." He ran TV ads and held press conferences, and the DNC expreselly FORBID both.

Hillary had no ads and no press conferences. She kept her word.

No WONDER Obama wanted you to think Florida voters didn't count.

Fact-check: Obama conferred with DNC and, when they re-directed the question, the SC DC about the cable TV ad purchase and received a ruling that it did NOT violate the agrement/pledge (b/c wasn't possible to remove FL from regional buy). Clinton complained loudly and (I've read) immediately started running her own on the same multi-state buy. (... but continues to complain that HE violated the agreement - go figure)

Reality-check: None of the candidates can really be held accountable for what FL-based supporters choose to do on their own. (Heck, if I lived there, I'd be trying to get my friends and family to go vote for Obama.) However, Clinton's announcing that she thought the delegates should be seated, that she would be in town on primary night, etc., etc., is - in my opinion - skuzzy. Still, if a supporter of hers, or Obama's, or Edwards', decides to put out flyers or make calls or whatever, I don't think you can charge the candidate with violation, unless/until you prove there was coordination or support.

Courtesy-check: How does she justify leaving her SC volunteers and supporters with a note but flying in for a personal appearance to 'thank' the FL supporters????? GAG! I hope the press doesn't buy into this "wonderful win" story.

Obama had ads running in Flordia for two weeks that is breaking the rules. Now in C.A. telling Republican to "change parties for a day and vote for him. Do we really want the Republican picking our candidate. kind of shady to me. Can't wait till next week when we will have a better idea on who our candidate will be, will be voting for Hillary but will vote for Barack if He is the choice because I can't see voting for McCain who say we will be in Iraq for a hundred years....

It's pretty pointless, there was nothing that was going to change the results, and Obama was okay with that, because the results don't matter.

Besides, McCain won, so we might as well get comfy with the idea of a President McCain if the Hillbots have their way and get her nominated. And hello Republican Congress as well. Thanks you ignorant, shortsighted automatons.

A+ post, Fred App:

I don't think that a group of Obama supporters mailing literature is any more objectionable than a group of Hillary supporters mailing literature on her behalf. It would have happened regardless -- even if Clinton never made the delegate seating an issue.

The point is broader than this. When she lost the Iowa caucus, she spend days whining about how unfair the caucus primary was. Then when it seemed that she was going to lose New Hampshire, she and her husband whined about how unfair it was to hold the primary so close to Iowa. (Miraculously, those objections disappeared once the results were in). Then after Obama got the Culinary Workers' endorsement, they whined about how unfair the at-large caucses were. (Miraculously, those objections disappeared after they won a majority of those.) Then in South Carolina, they whined about how unfair it was that so many black people were voting.

Now they're whining about how unfair it is that Florida gets no delegates.

Time after time, they've complained that anything that didn't favor her was unfair. She had ample oportunity to object to Florida; she didn't. She had ample opportunity to object to the primary scheduling. She didn't. She had ample opportunity to object to the Nevada caucus system. She didn't.

Basically, she's agreed to a set of rules and then sought to change every one of them when they were no longer in her interest.

I know. That's what the Republicans do. That's how they won Florida in 2000. And there are plenty of Democrats who believe the end justifies the means, that winning is the only principle that's important, and anything else is expendable. I just happen to think otherwise.

NJMAHI Obama will be well practaced at dealing with the muslim-Husein, racism from blacks type attacks for the general since he's had to deal with them from Clinton's supporters for quite some time.

High placed Clinton supporters (Kerrey's madrassa” comments for example) call attention to one of these things. Then they very unconvincingly do a concern troll routine explaining how they are only trying to point out what Republicans will do.

Oh wait - that's just what you did.

... nevermind